Awesome 5/8 Groove

[@cobb_thedrummer]

When you get recommended a video from 9 years ago and it’s still fresh

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

I am the person you are watching and listening in this video. Thank you very much for your kind words. I never would have looked at it that way. And, by the way, this video was actually filmed in 2012 and not 9 years ago.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

Shit's thick like the Mob.

[@Winky8723]

Holy crap its cobb the drummer

[@dogdrovenorth]

Stay Fresh!

[@Tech-ye1ul]

That’s cuz it took some of us 9 years to play in 5/8

[@sethbeard4809]

Jesus, the independence this requires is mental.

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

Hello Seth Beard, I am the one who played this video. No matter how complex the independence is, you are certainly capable of achieving it.

[@gregonline6506]

Coordinated independence. Jim Chapin 😎🥁

[@RhythmicFreedom]

Auto pilot feet: Learn the 4:3 pattern until internalized, the hands are a pattern over it like any other. Most drummers are not thinking of 4 different things here. Auto pilot feet, 1/8th note rhythm with hands (The fact that is a 5 beat groove seems harder than it is, the body won't mind as much)

[@gregonline6506]

@@RhythmicFreedom That´s the way. 😎

[@balebsm]

Literally, mental

[@asianmigos1499]

Brilliant groove! It flows so naturally despite the complexity behind the layers being played polymetrically. I aspire to reach this level of rhythm

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

Hello, Asian Migos, I am the one who played this video --- thanx for watching. If this is what you aspire for, you can certainly reach it.

[@Axacqk]

This is not a level of rhythm, this is a level of modular arithmetic. Aspire to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2fEp6Wuq7iNiq8&t=168 . This silly short riff has more quinary spirit in it than all youtube tutorials combined.

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

@szczepan Don't hate --- learn to appreciate. Actually, your words just prove to me that l am making a lot of people think.

[@digitalrudimentor]

Metal, and Mental

[@ryan_raus]

The kick drum is what brings this to the next level imo. That’s ridiculous

[@saxtonnova]

as a bassist i felt the last part inside my bones

[@smellycat57]

man it touched my soul 🥲

[@nathanielgreer2764]

This is the first time I’ve ever seen this guy and I can already tell he is perpetually the coolest guy in the room.

[@AdiAdi-bf6sj]

5/4 and 7/8, although odd time signatures, have always felt so naturally hypnotic and almost tribal. they're both like the perfect rhythm for the flow of the soul and amazing to meditate and spiral out to. Or maybe that's just my take because of liking prog music for so many years lol

[@spellboundty]

7/8 and "spiral out"? Hm, a specific band comes to mind.

[@federicobravi5752]

@@spellboundty hmmm guess what it is I don't remember. Maybe I should LET GO and SEPARATE THE BODY FROM THE MIND

[@TheBanana93]

@@federicobravi5752 Stop being a tool.

[@ItsAsparageese]

I doubt it's just the prog fan in you lol! I'm no expert but I grew up steeped in choral and folk lit, and from my exposure, you're spot on with the tribal vibes :) A bunch of the coolest chantiest danciest tunes I've ever sung have been in funky 5s, 7s, and a good dash of 9s (the unevenly subdivided kind, my favorite being 2-2-2-3), with most of these being choral arrangements of traditional songs with rich deep histories. (A great folk song in 5/4, about which I've heard several conflicting backstories, is "Turn the World Around" as recorded by Harry Belafonte -- yes, THAT Harry Belafonte -- and it's a beautiful jam, definitely worth looking up! I think the video of it on here of him performing it on the Muppet Show calls it "Earth Song" in the title.) Also, a cool professor of mine once pointed out that asymmetrical time signatures and use of polyrhythms in much non-"""western""" music can be viewed as an artistic parallel to the way many cultures view time as an overall cyclical phenomenon, where many micro and macro patterns revolve together and patterns ultimately align and repeat, rather than conceiving of time in the same linear beginning-to-end way that shows up a lot in much """western""" philosophy and theology.

[@jasongravely7217]

@@ItsAsparageesewow that last paragraph makes complete sense and I’ve never thought of it like that. The older I’ve gotten, the more I’ve been attracted to polyrhythmic cycles. Great point I appreciate the comment!

[@An_Arbitrary_Miscellany]

Jesus this is beautiful. I just wish the last 20 seconds or so went on for 4-5 minutes. Might have to loop it. So gratifying.

[@The1aMatt]

Much appreciated sir.

[@tomahzo]

Yeah, it has such a great polyrhythmic time signature combination that it never gets boring :D. It always feels like it's changing.

[@danwpc]

Better yet, learn and record it. 😊

[@dijjidog]

Ladies and gents, this is what talent looks like, being able to go from explaining to play a complex groove flawlessly, truly amazing.

[@SimonB.]

This is what practice looks like

[@Meltedcheese567]

*skill, not talent. Talent is god given, skill is earned.

[@The1aMatt]

@@Meltedcheese567 either way, you have my gratitude for your words.

[@Mussi93]

​@@Meltedcheese567 Talent doesn't exist at all, whether with or without a god. Early exposure to music, practice and dedication is what it's about.

[@The1aMatt]

@@Mussi93 i understand your words, but l disagree. Twas because of talent that Mozart wrote his first concerto around 6 years old, while most are learning the alphabet at the same age. And then there's the freakishly talented Chris Coleman.

[@Krooksbane]

I like that the snare lines up with the high hat, every other measure. Common in odd time grooves, sounds killer here

[@Mellomel]

Very complexed ......so thats what goes through the brain of the drummer who plays this kind of groove. Thanks for the break down.

[@saky228]

no it doesn't. It becomes natural over time

[@Patrickjk]

Its been so long since i felt this urge to learn a new polyrhythm concept!!! Thanks for re-igniting my passion for drums!

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

That's awesome! I hope you come up with something that works well in a band situation.

[@yukseloden6939]

"Mission Impossible". This is quite regularly used in Turkish music. As well as 7/8 and, our signature beat... the mighty 9/8.

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

Hello Yuksel Oden, l'd be delighted if you could post some examples of your cultural music in 5/8, 7/8, and 9/8.

[@lilvati]

isn't mission impossible 5/4?

[@The1aMatt]

@@lilvati Yes, Mission Impossible is in 5/4 or 5/8, depending on how u want to look at it.

[@uzey8749]

@@nunnayuhbitness6708 7/8 - 9/8 by Mogollar (in the album Düm-Tek) is a great example. And Hababam Sınıfı (the theme song from the movie Hababam Sınıfı) is a great example of 5/4 in Turkish music. i suggest you also check out Kapalı Çarşı by Moğollar which is in 9/8.

[@manningbartlett522]

I love the Turkish 9/8... I've heard it called "the drunken 4" because it has not 3 but 4 strong beats - 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and a, the final beat has a "lurching" quality.

[@Jake_Prism]

The limb independence is godlike, and once all the pieces are put together, the groove is so nice!

[@BillRayDrums]

I love the over-the-barline stuff, the "obtuse & sharp angles" of an odd-time groove seem to smooth down and become more palatable to the ear. Great flow and nice kit too!

[@AdamMilecki]

This is just how you summon Maynard James Keenan.

[@ballsoffire713]

god damn. it sounds like 3 people playing the kit at once! and a helpful explanation too? time to practice

[@sames4049]

I feel like each limb of your body has a seperate brain, the cordination you must have to play this must be out of this world. Congratulations dude, u good :)

[@hotlava768]

I've played with Matt in Sacramento! Really wonderful, talented, and thoughtful musician!

[@AwfulWeather5684]

This is so cool, I love when complex time signatures sound natural to the ear. It’s so satisfying

[@lerxt_music]

This goes so hard. He explained it so well, too.

[@TylerInTraining]

Great stuff. For anyone trying to learn this, the key is to learn each part one at a time, with a metronome, with let's say 30 seconds for each part. Once you've got that down, start combining the different parts like he does in the video. One trick I've done is to make a table with each column representing either a stick or a foot, and the rows with the smallest subdivision of notes - in this case if I counted right it would 10/16 since ten 16th notes fit into a 5/8 groove. So you've got a 4x10 table. In each cell you mark if that stick/foot hits on that beat with an X, and that helps you line up when to hit as well as if one or more limbs hit together. Now because this is a polymeter the tricky thing is that it takes more than one revolution for everything to sync up like it did at the start, so that means you'll have to reiterate the table multiple times to get the full groove. Think of it like planets orbiting the sun, where some of them will complete their revolution faster than others, but on a long enough timeline you'll get a "total solar eclipse". Hope that helps!

[@Gabelebabele]

Amazing! Thanks for explaining!

[@GgreenieXE]

mannn i'm a sucker for the rhythm that's going on with the bass drum and it just pulls everything together so smoothly this was so fun to watch come together

[@The1aMatt]

Kind words -- thanx.

[@an_egg_cultist]

Very impressive, been trying to learn some 7/8 rhythms lately so seeing this is very helpful as to insight on the relations of polyrhythms

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

I am glad it helps.

[@jamesjefferson6518]

Awesome groove and I can tell you're an excellent percussionist. You have the charisma and all! Succinct explanation and impressive mental separation of limbs. I will definitely apply this groove theory to my own playing!

[@The1aMatt]

It is entirely yours for the taking.

[@marcpatzelt2430]

You are awesome! I have also checked some of your other videos and you are surely an awesome drummer. I just hope you'll post more often.

[@The1aMatt]

Thanks a lot!

[@flapjackson6077]

What a killer groove! And such independence! That’s a tricky one!

[@AlessandroMantoan]

Great job, man! Is this what you can call "polyphonic rhythm"? This is a very interesting rhythm, it could be played in jazz music!

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

Thank u for your very kind words, and l am sorry for not seeing this before now. You are on track, for seeing this as sort of a "milti-layered" groove concept. The "polyphonic" will usually apply to individuals who can sing 2 part harmonies (youtube polyphonic sing or voicing). The closer term for this would be "polyrhythmic" or an over-the-bar groove, possibly "poly-metric".

[@Muzikman127]

@@nunnayuhbitness6708dude, upload some more drumming videos man!

[@mjm5081]

Cool groove and breakdown! The ghost notes on the snare are a nice subtle addition.

[@Gabelebabele]

As a tap dance instructor I would pay you to give me lessons on rhythm and music theory like in this video so I can understand it better and apply it to my tap dancing! You are incredible at breaking it down and explaining it! So cool!

[@The1aMatt]

How can I help you?

[@tailzz6969]

2:42 dude this is SO GOOD

[@JussDean763]

I actually wrote this groove not long ago. Same polyrhythm on legs.. I didn't even know what I was doing, this is great🙌🏾

[@The1aMatt]

Great minds think alike I guess.

[@mat4410]

I’ve loved playing in five since Joe Morello! Almost sounds like the Celebration track from House of the Dragon. Very very cool layering! Thanks for sharing!

[@MattiusFincham]

Absolutely bonkersss! Brillianttt groove!

[@isaiasabinadisosagarcia936]

I can't even stay on time with 1 of my extremities. You sir, are awesome.

[@julesdrums6167]

This is so absolutely fucking sick. Mind blowing. My kinda groove. Not necessarily that I could play it but damn. I love it.

[@davidduval8681]

Man oh man! Beautiful!

[@comradesentournjr3696]

That was mesmerizing. Thank you for the inspiration

[@boxofscissors1578]

Did anyone else IMMEDIATELY think of YYZ after the first bit was played? Absolute darling of a groove.

[@Augfordpdoggie]

no.

[@boxofscissors1578]

@@Augfordpdoggiecool, man!

[@Ahnatran]

i've gotta got to said that thing thousand times that i adore your styleman

[@brandongrill2767]

I couldn't not click with a title as appealing as Awesome 5/8 Groove

[@kronik9618]

Wow I just wanna go hop on my kit ASAP and get this going this is soo dope 🔥🔥🔥

[@chrishansen9033]

Reminds me of a Bruford groove in his crimson days. Probably off of red. That was awesome

[@tjisastrawberry]

Love this guys vibe

[@RockIslandYT]

this is a similar groove i did in one of my metal songs for 5/8. Big Blue Whale. nice beat, i'm no drummer so always cool to see people do well at odd meters

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

I am the one in the video, and u have my gratitude.

[@dredwick]

I love those types of beats.

[@morrisgreg2176]

This is incredible thank you so much for this

[@frank0_drums]

I love this. Thank you so much for uploading it

[@The1aMatt]

Thank you for watching.

[@2Chron20]

Wow, this would’ve been cool to see 9 years ago.. I just saw it now for 1st time! Really cool groove 🤙 It’s definitely like a 12/8 groove, but having it cycle in 5! Yeah, very cool!

[@amreed2]

That's a REALLY cool feel --! thx for sharing

[@kennethschweighardt4920]

Brilliant! Thank you!

[@danielfowler6795]

i have to learn this right away this is sick !

[@worldnotworld]

Nice. That steady three on the kick makes me think of Bruford!

[@BigJackGameplays]

It is an awesome groove!

[@daveshepherd7582]

You just blew my mind dude!! That was awesome

[@jah_moon]

Nice simple but solid groove!

[@paulwhetstone0473]

Holy Groove, Batman! That was dope af.

[@gigatesla]

Aw hell yeah, love that ride cymbal

[@ARGBlackCloud]

Great groove , gotta learn that one !! Thanks Matt

[@The1aMatt]

Who is this message from?

[@ARGBlackCloud]

@@The1aMatt Drummer from Calgary

[@The1aMatt]

U mean Cal[v]ary?

[@TimeNfeel91]

Thank you for this brain food. This should feed me for the next couple months

[@The1aMatt]

It's kept my belly full for a number of years actually.

[@handsomegrooves]

handsome grooves - yes indeed!

[@linkquadrat]

Legend. Nice groove!

[@cochiserocks]

Still fresh - thanks for the share. I got some practise to do! Cheers

[@jacemiears1200]

Wow, just wow, words can’t describe

[@ryanbachmeier6979]

VERY Educating vid!💯🙌🥁

[@solohour]

RAD groove. Love the early Mike Johnston camera work too.

[@yeahrightbear8883]

I wish he had played the full thing for longer. I was really getting into it.

[@BlackenBlueShitGaming]

What a monster, great limb independence on this groove!

[@CoriantonHalladay]

Polyrhythms!!! Gotta love em!

[@Nijoto]

Love it, man. I’d love to see this in tablature.

[@ryebread7224]

Damn…. That’s awesome! My brain was stretching just watch this one! 😂

[@haveswordwilltravel]

Outstanding.

[@MarmaLloyd]

Thanks for the breakdown rather than simply displaying the result. Amazing

[@misterguy9051]

I love this.

[@Nina-mt5ui]

This is gnarly!!! Love it! Hi from Aus! 🇦🇺🪃

[@The1aMatt]

Hello there!

[@3willyd]

Very nice!!! Great as an exercise in relaxation and concentration

[@aaronjohnson4604]

yooooo!!!! when the bass came in I died! lol

[@GetOutsideYourself]

This guy's got 4 independent brains. Wow.

[@ihartcrackers]

Love it!

[@KuroShiiiro]

love me some nasty time signatures

[@jamiroflavio]

Fantastic !

[@natazer]

Odd time signatures are like being at a party and having multiple conversations going with completely different people with varying interests and education.

[@lucistired]

i don't know why youtube recommended this to me now of all times but I'm so glad it did. The title is accurate; that is an awesome groove

[@IsaacA192]

First I hear the cymbal groove, that's fine. Cymbal and hi-hat, still good I'm still in. Cymbal hihat and snare, easy enough, I think I've got this. Once the bass drum comes into it, that's where it knocks the wind out of my sails. This is a really good exercise!

[@The1aMatt]

Hello, Isaac, this is actually also a very very good tool for phrasing in jazz fusion in jazz Bebop.

[@benadams758]

Amazing groove! Does anyone know what the cymbal setup in this video is? They sound amazing

[@Ahnatran]

Well I have to say that he is my new favorite artist

[@jeremiahgoertz4182]

Sounds sweet!

[@gregorybejian9269]

That was beautiful 😃👍👍👏👏😃

[@okolekahuna3862]

that's a sick groove.

[@ayden_woodhouse6269]

Can someone please do a backing track of this groove, I'm tryna write a song long where the instrumental line is in 7/8 but it goes against this

[@dickspits8819]

Wow kinda hard to wrap my head around but sounds absolutely amazing

[@AnewContraption]

amazing explanation leading up to the final product

[@redshift9227]

He was trying real hard to hold back a smile at the end because he knew how freakin cool he was

[@The1aMatt]

Actually it was because l was losing my independence. I'd never demonstrated that groove this particular way.

[@drummermomcjs]

Sweet little polyrhythm groove.

[@ethanengert3815]

The only word that can possibly come to mind is unreasonable

[@hiveofficial9855]

Damn. Sounds like three different accents. 1/4 with hi hat, dotted 1/8 with kick and 5 feel with ride & snare. Nice!

[@justingeorge8870]

That was beautiful

[@mikejarvis6797]

Jesus dude!! Well done!!!!

[@jowildcat40]

It's like watching a bunch of connected cogs of different sizes all spinning together.

[@SnowForgeHammer]

Love that 🙌🏻