AWESOME ANIMATIONS #1: Bojack Horseman - The Old Sugarman Place

[@skittlz111]

I just realized. The name he gives his fake daughter during his drug trip at the end of season 1 is Harper, and the place they used to live in Michigan is called Harper's landing

[@13wolfy13]

She also looked like Beatrice. I wonder to some extent if he didn't want to fix what he thought was wrong with his mother. Or if she ever talked about her childhood with him.

[@renx81]

Wow, good catch! I've watched every episode of this show many times, and never realized that.

[@prodrya]

also in that hallucination he says "i ran into ed at the hardware store" and thats just an insane callback too

[@ryanguerra2024]

The house also looks the same, not the inside but the outside

[@phousefilms]

The show has a lot of great foreshadowing. During the episode "Prickly Muffin", Sarah Lynn's song of the same name has her singing in the planetarium(the same place where she eventually OD's.)

[@ZeroFoxGiven0]

- "...but I've got half a mind to kiss you with that smart mouth." - "Well, that half you can keep". Oh my God, I never noticed that foreshadowing for the lobotomy as I only watched the episode once. Bojack Horseman is one of those shows that you can rewatch several times and keep finding new details. Thank you for pointing that out, that is a nice find!

[@renx81]

I would argue that it's one of those shows you HAVE TO watch several times in order to absorb it all. All good art is like that.

[@XxElectricRainbowsxX]

This line just gave me goosebumps.

[@paigehennigar6557]

i only noticed that line on my 3rd rewatch and it gave me goosebumps

[@mackielunkey2205]

When you think about that, that's horrifying. It's like if Joseph wanted a dog for a wife.

[@stitch-td6vo]

*gasp*

[@puppyhowler]

it's amazing how this show makes you feel sympathy for one of the more shitty people in the series. beatrice was portrayed as a very abusive poor excuse for a mother, but they actually fleshed her out to show how she became the way she is

[@carmena.gonzalezrios8372]

Her development reminds me of Severus Snape

[@puppyhowler]

@@carmena.gonzalezrios8372 i love it when a character who is abusive's backstory isn't just "well they were just abused", because how people become abusive isn't always abuse in the past. though it does happen, but it isn't always the case.

[@renx81]

This show brings home one of the main points of good stories extremely well - that all people are flawed, and we all deserve redemption, no matter how shitty we behave sometimes.

[@jackcrews1869]

puppyhowler After seeing all the back story of Bojacks mom in “Times Arrow” I legitimately cried cause of how shitty her life turned out and how since she is so old she doesn’t even know where she is by the end of the episode. I mean she was pretty shitty to Bojack but it makes sense to why she did that because of her unfortunately bad child and adulthood

[@halleyangel1706]

Monsters are rarely ever born. In many cases it's how their nuturing happened. BoJack is a product of his mother's raising. And Beatrice is a product of how she was raised. It doesn't make any of them better people or exscuses their actions. But understanding a monster is what helps us see them more clealry.

[@HyenaFox]

3:07 Bojack's mother wasn't JUST neglectful and unloving. Both of his parents were downright abusive for almost the entirety of Bojack's childhood. They both CONSTANTLY fought with each other and him, constantly telling him that he's worthless, unwanted, horrible, a burden, a mistake, and more. Both of his parents hate each other and him with a burning passion, and they both blame what they perceive as faults in each other DIRECTLY on Bojack's back, I think as best showcased in the opening to "Free Churro", which is I believe in Season 5. They both openly ridiculed him almost nonstop.

[@cupidlovegoddesscat4076]

1) This is my favorite episode so WOO! 2) -Just realized that Bojack is neither of his parents colors. The brown skipped a generation, and he got it from Honey, his grandmother. 3) Honey is my favorite character so WOO!

[@laurene988]

Maybe that's why his mother was so abusive towards him

[@moneymaker3208]

ᴘʟᴀɴᴛ never noticed the skin tone thing wow

[@crystalchuu]

WOO!

[@gibbies8629]

His colors more of crackerjack then honey

[@summer2011leggo]

ᴘʟᴀɴᴛ there’s a phrase “a horse of a different color” meaning something completely separate from something else. Like how BoJack feels completely different from his parents growing up. That was not an accident! The writers of this show are very clever and probably did that on purpose!

[@BloomerMedia]

Beatrice's backstory episodes are easily my favorite Bojack episodes. You've earned a sub, please keep up the work!

[@ericshawn3169]

YaBoi MemeLord same here Time’s Arrow is my favorite

[@samlamson6370]

Beatrice is an intricately constructed antagonist.

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

"Well that half you can keep" ok as somebody who's never seen this show and knows NOTHING about these characters, that line got a worried chuckle outta me right off the bat.

[@rionachreid5863]

Lobotomy

[@squill9446]

I absolutely agree. This episode is a masterpiece, the way we see both stories at the same time, and the lobotomy scene was utterly heartbreaking. Such a beautiful episode.

[@renx81]

One of the best in the whole series so far for sure. But Bojack Horseman is also one of the very few shows that seems to keep getting better and better every season, so I'm looking forward to even higher quality in the future.

[@rus778]

@@renx81 Yea up until season 5 in my opinion. It was good but definitely not the best.

[@randomperson9260]

Can you PLEASE review the episode that shows Beatrice going through her dementia. I feel like that is the second best episode after the one where bojack is just talking at a funeral

[@Sejikan]

Which episode is that?

[@Dummma]

@@Sejikan Time's arrow

[@namanex5210]

My favorite episode is him talking at the funeral it’s so great to here how his mind processes what has happend and how he’s dealing with it

[@SQGReviewShow]

That's my favorite episode of Season 4.

[@samlamson6370]

Agreed.

[@erubin100]

So basically, Sugarman is the true main villain for this whole series.

[@crimsondynamo615]

erubin100 basically

[@ea.fitz216]

Sugarman was a dick, but the main series of problems stems from Crackerjack's death in WW2.

[@ItsNothingRichy]

@@ea.fitz216 the SHOW'S problems all stem from bojacks self destructive nature.

[@talktouasia6312]

To the audience what he did was evil but back then that was normal and I think Sugarmen probably really thought he was helping his wife. He was a product of the era and his beliefs

[@blake2521]

TalkToUAsia Doesn’t mean anything. He burnt all of Beatrice’s belongs he was despicable. There’s nothing you can say to change it.

[@SQGReviewShow]

Small detail, but did anyone notice how in the modern day at the barn where the Fly and Bojack's grandmother are playing the piano, you see a box of Guten Bourbon? Bourbon from the country that killed Crackerjack 80 something years before? It makes you think how things changed since then. Great video.

[@stanleystewart8444]

Omg I just now realized that's the Bourbon Todd becomes a spokesperson later on in the show

[@shewolfinubaka]

Lobotomy’s were also often forces on housewives at the time as a way to “fix” them

[@jamieelizabeth8509]

I feel like Eddie’s breakdown at the pond is so underrated. As someone who has dealt with suicidal thoughts before this moment to me was so real and raw. it gets me every time

[@eilidhcathcart5024]

Also to add on, they fly up in the film on the TV show. Could just be normal flies flying, or what if that recording is of her death because he wanted to keep going higher?

[@crystalgemgirl731]

How are you feeling? If you need to talk, just ask.

[@BigK13372]

Honestly Bojack Horseman overall is a master at playing with the narrative structures to create a well crafted story.

[@arrash4388]

This is my favourite episode of BH and the duet song my favourite scene in whole series. Couldn't get it out of my head for days on end

[@meumundosecreto7694]

Me too. My skin shivered on the whole video.

[@soaphope3398]

Marshmallow Rabbit same I had chills. I absolutely love this show so much. I found it in November 2018 and I’ve watched it through twice now

[@alstroemeria6445]

the lobotomy scene along with the mother having meltdown in this episode really made me upset for a while. i've never felt so bad for a character in my life

[@plasmatize8494]

"Why, I have half a mind," One of the best, most unsettling lines in the series.

[@annabethdiana5857]

Honey's lobotomy is also a looming family curse when it comes to Crackerjack, Beatrice and Bojack. In the season 6 episode "The View From Halfway Down" it is revealed to us that Crackerjack died by a bullet to the head. Beatrice dies of old age complicated by dementia. And in the aforementioned season 6 episode, Bojack's death is explored through the degradation his mind receives from drowning. This episode is also where we learn the origin of Bojack's name; his uncle Crackerjack. There is also a nod to Bojack being named after Crackerjack in a later season 4 episode where Beatrice sees a picture of Bojack as a child and tells Hollyhock that it's "My brother Crackerjack". Bojack also bears a striking resemblance to Crackerjack, from his dark brown coloring they both inherited from Honey Sugarman to their pink and white mouths, and love of performance. Then you have the old Sugarman house with the lake out back, similar to the one in Maine that Bojack hallucinated living in with Charlotte. You also have the name of the town that the old Sugarman place is located, Harper's landing. Harper being the name of the hallucinated daughter Bojack had with Charlotte. So it seems as if there is also a connection between Bojack and his mother Bea for some simpler, easier life in the rural parts of the Northeast; Bea wants the old days when her brother was still alive and her mother was still there, and Bojack wants a quiet adulthood with a stable family life and something to be proud of. Not too dissimilar.

[@VintageBalderdash]

In my flurry of dotting comparisons, I chuckle at the Sugarmans' car crashing into the petrol station while Bojack's Tesla whizzes right by it. I suppose that's two major crashes he avoids. Don't hold your breath too long though, he falls off a building because he canned his stuntman, and is too cowardly to admit he probably shouldn't do the stunt himself. It's also peculiar how he blames Princess Carolyn for not being there to save him from himself, while it was Diane's idea to write in the stunt in the first place. I think it involved power-sliding a motorcycle on a roof.

[@demJem09]

easily one of the most memorable episodes in recent television. i'll never forget that "why i have half a mind..."

[@ghostlybf3785]

This episode was so upsetting to me. The whole episode really touched me.

[@miiirky1904]

Eddie is a dragonfly? I thought he was a fly, like in the song. My life is a lie. 2nd Best episode of the season. First is Time's Arrows

[@Vindicator12Music]

Eddie is actually a horsefly, not a dragonfly lol.....

[@bubbles2215]

He’s a dragonfly. It’s mentioned in the episode. I remember because for the entire episode I thought he was a fly too.

[@LikeTheBuffalo]

And I quote: "Oh, of course, the twelve hundred *mumblegrumble* pound horse will shimmy up a drainpipe to get it, cuz that makes more sense than the _dragonfly_ who literally has the word _fly_ in the name of what he is. Okay, alright, so you've gone now, you've walked away while I'm making my point..."

[@katietaylor8314]

I thought he was a blowfly too - I missed the line where BoJack calls him a dragonfly. But now I think about it, you do see blowfly people in a few episodes and they look very different - bigger, rounder heads with proboscises instead of regular mouths.

[@pepesilvia429]

Man, I can't wait for season 5. Awesome review man, my favorite episode of season 4 was Time's Arrow because of how it concludes the story from this episode. Live your videos, hopefully you'll do another one of these for an episode of season 5 when it comes out

[@SteveReviews]

Definitely!

[@lordtachanka903]

Pepe Silvia *6

[@LilFiremaster]

"Time's arrow marches forward." :'(

[@Bustedrocket]

For me personally it was Time's Arrow that really got me. I swear I almost cried.

[@lunareclipse0629]

"Some of the darkest and most emotionally driven episodes in animation" Wait till you get to Moral Orel. I've watched both and have to say that Orel pulls far fewer punches than BoJack. That whole last season was just one continuous gut punch, and it never got any easier to watch. (Before I start any wars, I don't think Orel is *better* than BoJack or vice versa. I honestly see them as being the same story told from different viewpoints - with BoJack examining the rot under the glitz and big-city ambition of Hollywoo, and Orel tearing the face off the simple, down-home values of Moralton.)

[@KillerCaitie]

The last season is WHY it was the last season. After seeing the stuff they had for it, the network or whoever was in charge of producing it (been ages since I read it, sorry!) were just upset about it. Which is a shame, as we never did get the rest of the story of the barren spinster who eats eggs that I forget the name of. But yes, I absolutely agree the last season of it was great.

[@AznOmega]

@@KillerCaitie don't know his last name, but this more or less happened: After Nature [as]: Hey Dino, nice work on that episode, make the series darker. Dino: Sure, but not too dark right? I don't want to go too far (I think that's how it was) [as]: No, make it as dark as it can be. After they seen Alone: [as]: On second thought, we have to cancel your show. We're sorry, but this show is too dark.

[@adriannaranjo4397]

"Why I have half a mind.."

[@TheChaosDragoness]

This episode and Free Churro are definitely my favorite episodes of season 4.

[@Torthrodhel]

Free Churro is in season 5.

[@jakdekayen]

Beatrice reminds me of my grandmother's relationship with my mother. They never quite got along, and she loved her boys more than my mother. But my grandmother had been through so much during the great depression. I never got to find out exactly what all she went through, I just know it was awful. And it shaped her into the abusive mother she became. Which shaped my mother into the unintentionally abusive mother she became. Season 4 really hit close to home for me, and made see things a little bit differently than I did before, on multiple levels.

[@birdnerd200]

In one of the first episodes, BoJack says he’s about 1,200lbs, so Eddie would have to be super strong to fly him up that high.

[@CEPHALOPESSIMISM]

Sarah Lynn's death was friggen sadder than depression itself! She wanted to be an architect but never got to because, well, she died.

[@crystalgemgirl731]

I think that Bojack tearing down the house in the end, was actually the right decision. The ghosts of past tragedy were trapped in that empty house and, by tearing it down, he set them free.

[@clown-cult96]

Something I really love about this is yes Bojack ultimately realised because of Eddie to move on...but he's in the old house for several months. His grief and turmoil aren't instantly fixed. He takes time to work through it and keep himself busy, like most people do after experiencing loss. It was a very realistic portrayal of the grieving process.

[@chips6042]

The funeral scene was so powerful, only to be ruined by the joke of it being the wrong room. But then you sorta awkwardly laugh... But you are glad he got to vent out, he had thought the lizards were paid for, until he saw the casket.

[@psionichelmsman]

I liked your commentary, your voice was soothing, too.

[@BOJACKARY]

Also one of my favorites. Very deep and after watching this video it made me realize how special and unique this animation actually is and the message it displays. I always love wen they bring up the back stories so u understand the present more. I've been watching bojack since day one and it's still something I turn on almost every night to fall asleep to. Many people look at it as depressing and automatically dismiss it. But it's so much more than that! And I wish more people would give it the time. I've learned alot myself from bojack personally. This is by far the best show I've seen and I mean that! It's more than just a show for entertainment.. it sheds light on some of the worst issues in today's world. And anyone can learn from it. I absolutely did. And still catch things I didnt before. It still makes me think. Amazing video I love it! I love u shedding light on this

[@A.N.A_youtube]

Beautiful analysis. I loved and appreciated this episode too for it's dark subject matter and plot fusion.

[@redjirachi1]

Bojack's grandfather is literally Joseph P Kennedy

[@lunapyrope9683]

When Eddie dropped Bojack in the lake I feel like that was another parallel to what Ana told him when he was on his bender. "You can't save everyone. Some people with thrash and drag you down with them."

[@ohgirlieplease]

This video is pretty good! It seems like the majority of it is just summarizing the episode though, I'd love to hear more of your own analysis.

[@bzenga5981]

IMO, the end credits for this episode are phenomenal. Back In The 90s with demolition in the background has to be one of the most powerful "remixes" of the song I've heard.

[@777Rowen]

Holy crap, this is freaking amazing. What a powerful episode, and amazing review.

[@philip2mey634]

That lobotomy scene really freaked me out

[@ichabodelclown1144]

Sugar man seems to have a lot of personality that clay from Moral Orel has with how they act toward their family.

[@moshigal156]

Do Time’s Arrow next, that one REALLY messed me up. It provided great insight on how Beatrice came to be such a cruel woman and it almost makes you feel kinda bad for her despite all the terrible things she’s done. Emphasis on “almost”.

[@julesrules7297]

I've got half a mind to... 😱😱😱😱😱

[@katietaylor8314]

Hilariously, in a subsequent episode BoJack is asked to sign a contract for a TV show and if you freeze frame it you can see it says "Party shall not skip town for any period of time longer than three (3) days or one (1) business day to 'find himself', 'explore his past' or 'face his own demons'. Party shall ignore whims and dark feelings for the extent of the project."

[@doodelbopgames]

"you know what we say about crying. It's stupid"

[@xdarkjimmyx]

Amazing video! This is my second favorite episode. My favorite, by far, is the one where we see inside Beatrice's dementia-ridden mind. That episode is on a whole new level. Keep the great stuff coming!

[@MsAlyssaB1]

They did an amazing job of showing Honey as a result of the time she was forced to live in. A wive's duty is always be beautiful, always be happy and keep a marvelous house for a man to come home to, anything short of that and your husband will take measures to fix you. I think at the time technically a wife didn't belong to her husband but come on we all know she basically did. This is why I don't take people who complain about modern women not wanting to get married seriously. At the time people like Honey were even mocked for what she's feeling. If I woman's group, usually called suffragettes cause it wasn't public opinion it was only the oddities who disagreed with society, said they didn't raise their sons to be soldiers they were told they raised the worst thing you could at the time ....an effeminate gay man and a "real man" went to war and their mothers should be proud because they were pawns for their country that dragged their feet while innocent people were killed cause they believed they could reason with Hitler.

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

One of the saddest instances of lobotomization is the one given to Rosemary Kennedy, whose lobotomy went so far that she wound up institutionalized for the rest of her life. Said lobotomy was performed at the insistence of her father.

[@geckoo9190]

Yea the sugarman place is my favorite episode of the whole serie, we just went from the dead of sara lynn and go to bo jack trying to find his place. Men that song on the piano is sort of painful to hear, because you can infer what will happen, also the plot kind of resembles the song, on the sense that it goes from voice a to voice be, sort of like from plot a to plot b.

[@Saiyangoddess72]

The fact that her husband would even suggest something so ungodly horrible makes me feel like he's far worse than even the most abusive of people

[@570y3n]

One of the creepiest, most disturbing things I ever saw was in S4 E11 of this show when Butterscotch asks Beatrice about her mother and she remarks that she doesn't think much about about anything, while the screen flashes, showing her silhouetted with the lobotomy scar over her head, alluding to Beatrice having similar mental issues and losing her mind.

[@TheRachit33]

I don't know if anyone noticed- I have half a mind comes up later in the episode as well, Just when Honey and Beatrice are about to head out, Honey says - I have half a mind to paint the town redder the banks of Normandy

[@OldSkullInn]

I was really late to the party. Resisted watching Bojack for the longest damn time due to exactly what you mentioned. "Outdated meme, cheap flash look." This video didn't get me to watch Bojack, I was sick one day and Netflix said "Hey try this!" and I gave up. Holy shit that show is fucking DARK. Gotta say, I liked it.

[@rosestrife1498]

Tbh, This is the only episode of Bojack I could sit through.

[@rollischmidt1]

It used to be my favorite episode for how the "intro" played out the metaphor of "a horse with no name" in pictures ( look up the original song on wikipedia) But after seeing this video , I have found another reason to consider it my favorite episode...

[@Jonbutter]

"why i have half a mind..." it's like raphael bob-waksberg slammed my heart with a folding chair

[@charlierei9292]

Even with Bea's heart wrenching backstory I just cant feel bad for the way she treated Bojack. Theres one thing to be removed from your children but Beatrice wholly hated Bojack and constantly bullied him.....

[@clairelouise2067]

Honestly the “why I have half a mind” line was hilarious

[@riparoo9675]

It's a great line because it's so hilarious, but it's also utterly screwed up. You can laugh, but it comes from a place of twisted messed up pain, and it's amazing.

[@rawrdino7046]

It call dark comedy

[@jahovachite]

This show is live as hell

[@NemkellxD]

i think the part with the cars at 8:10 is referring to a scene of the movie The Great Gatsby. The yellow car, the two car racing on the road, the crash, the gas station etc.

[@p1xik]

this is unironically my 3rd favorite episode of all of BH, and when its only below Time's Arrow and The View From Halfway Down, that's when you KNOW its an amazing episode

[@FlamingRobzilla]

I got some of this when I watched the episode, but your analysis opened my eyes to so much more. Thanks.

[@shellic9566]

one thing I noticed (and I'm not sure if this was done on purpose or not) is that the cruelest non human characters have human names. JOSEPH Sugerman and BEATRICE Horseman. The others (Bojack, hollyhock, crackerjack, etc..) all have 'odd' names.

[@Teviniastavern]

This is my favorite episode of this show. Thank you for making this.

[@fallenflame1940]

I nearly cried during this

[@Dushine]

One of the best episodes of the show, and that's saying something as that's a list that is getting crowded and you can basically make a top 10 out of the best episodes from the show and they are easily among the best episodes on TV.

[@presto.3695]

god this show is a modern masterpiece

[@caodogao4327]

I'm not weird for not minding spoilers ... e.e I just hold the opinion that if being spoiled by what happens on the plot totally ruins it, then it is a bad plot. I can understand the surprise is a big element for some people, but for not so much for me. In fact, i wouldn't have watched Bojack Horseman at all if i weren't spoiled by the Mysterious Mr. Enter about how good the show gets since the first five episodes are very weak both on humor and drama. Now, this is one of my favorite shows and one that i eagerly wait for each new season.

[@adasiddique4760]

You should definitely review the episode Free Churro where the entire time it just focuses on Bojack...that episode alone makes it this show one of the best (personally)

[@BluesAntenna]

This and the view from halfway down are my two favorites

[@ln3980]

The lobotomy had me crying, it's so sad

[@weather9405]

The old sugerman place one of my favorite episode.

[@mothmanghost983]

Would also like to note that lobotomies were performed most on women back in the day.

[@randyrichmondiii3415]

"Well i have half a mind to kiss you with that smart mouth" I never noticed that...😰😰😱😱😨

[@monstersinthecity]

That episode was pretty heartbreaking

[@jiayojames]

One of the best episodes ever, also because of the threads it weaves for the end of the season.

[@tempstinkyfinklehimer9384]

I loved this show so much

[@vixtion9180]

Best episode I could make a show where it's all like this: There could be a character with PTSD or is trying to find out more about there family and find something more sinister or have a character be an orphan trying to find their family in general and is finding the ruins of there old house and finds out that they weren't given up or away or even abandoned but was alone

[@thenewadventuresofhenry6998]

I loved how Bojack destroyed the house and just drove home!

[@Utomneian]

season 4 almost made me cry :( this show is so beautiful.

[@christinethuo6840]

And remember on his sitcom , he was just referred to as the horse .

[@rasati]

i think this would be changed to free churro or the view from halfway down if this video was made after the show ended

[@thomasmaddox1002]

I can't believe I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago

[@Navi6996]

I'm so sorry but ‏crackerjack was her BROTHER! Grate vid I loved it❤

[@KindredKeepsake]

This made me start watching the show.

[@RobbScholarTube]

I can't believe you didn't mention Paul Giamatti's Bojack impersonation 'Oh, Doc I let her down..." hilarious and Hey Tamara how bout you get some manners TODAY! lol

[@angelal3990]

Love your reviews, bojack is one of my favorite shows

[@calcifer6142]

There is something so satisfying about the way the animal people's mouths moves

[@xcaluhbration]

This was my favorite season and that's saying a LOT!

[@matthewclark5612]

I always felt bad about how Bojack and Eddie's friendship went down the tubes

[@Aridawua]

Idk why you don't have more subs, your content it's fucking good

[@beyondviolet]

You should do every episode, I'd watch every review you did on them and so would a loooot of other people

[@devonhall3785]

Wow this episode is sad and dark plus labotimize grandma ,OMG.

[@TheForhekset]

I've watched the show over and over again. I find this episode particullary sad. Bojack's destruction of his house afterward was difficult for me to accept, becuase Bojack can't except any of his past. Bojack is determined to be miserable, he saids he doesn't want to fetishsize his past. But that's all he does, he might push down his guilt momentarily, but he hasn't moved past anything.

[@Babidi111]

- This show is amazing. It really makes you think a lot about not just your own depression, but to consider the people in your life who have treated you poorly and how its not as simple and reductionist to just say they are Narcasists who don't care about you. We are all much more complicated in our damage and the way we damage those around us as a result. - It was also really sad to know that Bojack saw none of that and never understood his mother even after her death.

[@Argos-xb8ek]

The view from halfway down needs to be on your list

[@lenamorris3117]

Has anyone noticed the the place he goes is called Harper's landing and the name of his child he images with Charlotte is also named harper. He also imaged them staying in a cabin by a lake🤔

[@Acro-vf9nd]

I love the other episode as well that also dwells into Beatrice's background even more