Steve Reviews: Santa Inc

What a show to get us into the festive spirit! With this having recently been rated the worst TV show ever, I was curious to see if it was really as bad as people were saying, and my god.. it is.....
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[@SunnysFilms]

Hot take: Cookie's husband isn't actually lazy. He's just suffering from depression from being in an abusive relationship.

[@_Sage967_]

lethargy, lack of motivation, irritability... yeah i see it

[@owens.studios]

My thoughts exactly

[@lollllolll.]

I like how it's actually a really solid possibility. What little we do see from his behavior, are very well known symptoms related to depression.

[@lollllolll.]

@@_Sage967_ you beat me to it, have my kidneys as a reward

[@Jellyman4]

@@lollllolll. He won't take it, but I will.

[@crossbones116]

I like how the show shoots down its own 'Santa is always a white man' in literally the first episode when Santa was going to pick a black man as his successor. Like, right off the bat it shoots itself in the foot.

[@DemonicRemption]

@crossbones116 Yeah, by having him work at Amazon. Hell the black guy doesn't have an ounce of agency, which implies waaaaaay too much, but I'm just being jaded.

[@tidepodpadthai2633]

Plus candy is also white so idk why the white thing comes into play

[@breakdudee]

@@tidepodpadthai2633 If purple is white for elfs, then I guess so.

[@Hyrule409]

@@breakdudee Considering Candy is Silverman's self insert in this horrible fever dream, yea, she's "white". And I use the term loosely.

[@moth300]

Do you? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH_KmIyAnapspK8

[@ponderousplum7970]

That Santa scene is actually incredible. When Santa saw how she interacted with children, he realized that she didn't want the position to bring joy to the world, she wanted the position just so she could be the first female Santa. While Santa liked her and her ideas, he realized that she didn't have her heart in the right place and someone with that attitude towards the job and towards children could never be a worthy Santa that children around the globe would write to. Like how are you gonna be Santa if you don't even want to read the kid's letters? It's a shame that they missed this and made Santa out to be the villain. The show would've probably been much better if episode 6 was the last episode.

[@GarkKahn]

Yeah someone that has big ambitions just for the sake of ambition can only lead to disaster, it's not even somebody with good intentions that unintentionally hurt others, if someone just wants something to mark their name in the stars they'll do anything to achieve it no matter how many must be left behind or atrocities must be commited

[@hadbetterdays8118]

Also her ego was just insufferable like she said behind the scenes wasn't good enough for her like she could of asked to be recognized for what she does and have a title and evan if that wasn't given she still forgot that there were good people who sometimes don't evan get noticed for there things

[@RobbyCreech]

It’s kinda like Kamala Harris. Ran for the position just for the title, but doesn’t actually want to/know how to operate in that position. But hey, she’s a woman!

[@joshstubs2927]

Show was ass overall. Didn't watch it.

[@jillianc7485]

sarah silverman and seth rogan are jewish and *very* vocal about disliking christianity. im not sure why anyone expected even a modicum of positivity about the holiday in this terrible *terrible* series !!!

[@boxofcereal]

Seth basically did the equivalent of a middle schooler saying “If you don’t agree you’re gay”

[@stevesharpe3370]

LOL that’s a good one CerealBox

[@guilhermehank4938]

To be honest, Seth acts like an over sized middle schooler who never had his ass kicked by real life properly

[@TheAutisicKiddo]

Lol true tho 👍

[@JohnDoe-wt9ek]

That's just Leftist Logic in general.

[@InVinoVeratas]

Its a binary argument, all it is, is divisiveness for the sake of protecting their egos, meant to cover up the fact they're just utilizing political jargon as a means of becoming more relevant.

[@genericname2747]

Candy should've been a villain protagonist. Like, we start out thinking "Oh, everyone is sexist! They don't want a female santa! Poor Candy!" but Candy just gets worse and worse, until we're thinking "Wow Candy doesn't deserve this job at all"

[@gaigestorm8155]

There isn't many protagonists I can say I actually hate but this is one of them. Everytime it looks like she may be able to redeem herself or there's actually some decent reason that will pay off for her rubbish, I got disappointed hard. I don't know who was actually supposed to like this character when they wrote her

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Yeah but see, this is Hollywood.

[@arthurfisher1857]

@KaraDUN Breaking Bad is the best example of recent times. The Sopranos would be another one. Edit: 'Lucifer' just occured to me. I haven't seen it, bit people seem to love it. I assume he's a villain, but I guess he might be an anti-hero or something. Again, I haven't seen it

[@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649]

@KaraDUN Overlord, saga of tanya the devil, death note, higurashi no naku koro ni, Black lagoon

[@thepalindromeemordnilapeht1267]

@KaraDUN Bojack Horseman, even

[@opo3628]

Damn. Santa explaining his successor decision to Candy was legit one of the most profound speeches I've ever heard. It's a real shame that it's not only attached to this tripe -- but it's treated as if Santa was just "mansplaining" to her and thrown away like it meant nothing. The writers truly are tone-deaf.

[@nova_supreme8390]

They just threw in a blender whatever hashtags are trending on twitter at the moment and called it a day.

[@rosestrife1498]

I feel like they had it all wrapped up and pretty in a bow and then the "Executive producers" decided this was the best route.

[@niapurdue230]

The worst part is, by their logic they had to get Santa to dislike her over a minor thing. Problem is, liking children is an ESSENTIAL JOB OF SANTA So they say they don't understand Christmas by making the BIGGEST PART into a "Oh no sorry you can't do it" for this egotistical brat.

[@niapurdue230]

@@linkkraft3358 yeah like if this show was in Russia or Italy it wouldn't happen. Not just because of quality control but also because they have female Santa equivalents (though Russia's is young, white, and blonde so Twitter might be in a doozy like usual.) Either way this show is too bitter. We just got out of a pandemic, literally no one asked for the one happy holiday to be so cynical and shitty after this year. Gimme my Rankin-Bass over this any day.

[@Twinklethefox9022]

Yeah the only good thing in this show and they threw it away

[@Rytonic69]

God, that comment on sexual harassment just reminded me of something. I once had a girl twerk right in my face at a party, and I tried to get away, but I was sitting on the couch and really couldn't get out of the way. I kept leaning back and tried to make it very clear that I didn't like it. The girl asked if it made me uncomfortable and I said yes, please stop. Later on, same girl did it again. It took a male coworker of mine to make a joke about me being gay to get her to stop. I'm straight, but I wasn't attracted to her and didn't like being put on the spot like that. It's crazy how normalized that kind of behavior is towards men. Everyone thinks we're horny all the time so we must always want sex all the time. Even other men take that stance. Hell, I have a hard time labelling that as sexual harrassment, but yeah, it is. In terms of relationships and sex, the woman is always right. Doesn't matter if the guy wants it or not, because it's not a question for them, of course they want it. I never talk about this because I don't want to admit that it happened to me, and I don't think others would take it seriously. Fuck this show making that a joke

[@SpriteIsSpicyWater]

"BuT mEn HaVe It EaSiEr" they say.

[@personofthetao]

I'm sorry that happened to you. It's ok to talk about it and you shouldn't feel like people will probably laugh at you or just not take you seriously. Growing up, I would hear sometimes about a male being taken advantage of a female teacher, boss etc. And I would hear about how people think that the boy scored and is a legend. While some others say that it's not sexual harrassment because men want sex all the time...

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@SpriteIsSpicyWater Your response is why I wanted to suggest this dudes experience was a copy pasta. People unironically do post fake stories about "I held a door open for some whale of a woman and she yelled at me for being toxic masculinity" to drum up some kind of "Feminists hate men!" replies. You're really not helping further normalization of men being sexually harassed if your response isn't to call attention to the harassment, but to feminism and blaming them for said harassment.

[@bigboyzsos7857]

@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 i agree about the response but you cant just deny it being real. He had an unfortunate experience that just so happened to be caused by a woman. Theres no hidden motif about how he hates all women, he was harrased.

[@motheroftheuniverse6140]

I once heard the phrase “being a man in general society is like being the favorite child in an abusive household.” My household isn’t what I would call abusive, but I do have experience being the favorite child, watching my dad come down harder on my brothers than me, wishing to be held more accountable but also secretly relived he’s not like that with me, being resented by my brothers, knowing I’m favored because I’m AFAB and therefore dads “little girl” (which is meaningless), and then also being scared shitless of stepping out of line because I wouldn’t want dad to growl at me the same way he does my brothers. And that was literally the best metaphor I could’ve been given because I understood instantly how shitty male gender roles are in the only way I could ever come to understand

[@askatuproductions]

Santa: Don't let your ego get in the way, think about the children of the world Candy: Nah I just wanted to be famous

[@guilhermehank4938]

That should have been the moment when Candy becomes the villain in a story that made sense but this aint one of them

[@outerspace7391]

Santa actually made some very good points, I still don't understand how they could pull him being a villain and expect us to go with it

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

The famous thing should've been written better

[@skysiren4113]

8:46 I'm so sick of shows that when a women is acting abusive to their boyfriend or husband it's played as a joke, but when the roles are reversed it's taken seriously Men can be abused and it's honestly disgusting that this type of normalisation on abuse cause the person who's reserving it is a guy, abusive relationships can happen to anyone regardless of gender and we shouldn't be downplaying and making jokes about it when the person receiving said abuse is a guy

[@soldier9618]

another thing I'm also sick of in "adult" shows is the unhappy couple thing.

[@colleen4ever]

I know what you mean. That's one of the reasons I hate characters in anime like Winry Rockbell in FMA. Chi Chi in Dragonball Z and Sakura in Naruto. Aldo why I was one of the IchiHime shippers in Bleach, cause I can;t STAND Rukia.

[@totozhu4543]

@@colleen4ever To be fair, while I understand where you're coming from, Chi Chi had a right to be pissed off especially since Goku was constantly either gone or putting his son in danger. Naruto when he was younger was a straight up pervert. Winry is probably the only valid one, but then again constantly breaking something that you put your heart and soul into is a bit frsutrating. Also most of these guys are superhuman so it's really downplayed. Doesn't make it right but it's not exactly the same.

[@colleen4ever]

@@totozhu4543 Ha, Winry cares more about her damn automail then anything else, even her friends! True, she may put her heart and soul into the automail but if Ed didn;t have it, he would have been KILLED multiple times! But noooo, just don;t dent the automail! God, would she rather Ed be killed but the automail stays intact?! You can build more automail, you can't build another person! And I just don't understand why Chi Chi never just left Goku if she was that unhappy in the marriage! And it wasn;t just Goku, she beat up her own FATHER one time with a broom for pete;s sake! And Sakura was beating Naruto even after he grew out of the pervert thing because he was having trouble bring back her precious Sasuke!

[@totozhu4543]

@@colleen4ever well okay then

[@grassguy1154]

“Santa’s character is basically someone who is trying to be progressive, but in trying so hard to do so, actually comes off as kind of offensive himself” Just like Seth Rogan himself

[@yarimarvillalobosfigueroa7944]

Best comment ever

[@soniccookie655]

I like stories where one character tries hard, thinks they’re doing good, is offensive in doing so, then changes for the better.

[@grassguy1154]

@@soniccookie655 same

[@vyvisabastard]

@@soniccookie655 its an endearing attitude, and appeals to a lot people

[@marlikbudvergard]

@@soniccookie655 and they decided to do none of that and make the biggest pile of dogshit ever conceived

[@undeadladybug7723]

I love how this "show" was Velma before Velma. It's starting to feel like the people behind these projects are having a long-term competition to see who can make the worst show ever made.

[@Nuniixo]

I mean if that was revealed to be the case that would make the situation at least somewhat funny

[@winno8744]

This actually makes so much sense

[@deviousdelibird]

Candy didn't even seem like she liked the job OR kids. She just wanted to say there was a first woman Santa.

[@organicleaf]

which is basicly the whole plot "im woman, give job to me because vagina"

[@guilhermehank4938]

A smart story would be self aware of that but this aint that

[@basicarduinoprograming7349]

That's modern feminism for you

[@legoc-3po845]

Thats why it had the potential to make an ending where Candy realizes her ego was in her way all the time, but Seth Rogan just made Seth Rogan things and here we are

[@Treeeee2008]

I was so mad when Santa turned out to be the villain, he gave a wonderful explanation as to why he didn't pick candy, the job is all about delivering presents to kids and someone who can't connect with kids is just wrong for the job. Why did they have to go for the cliche twist villain trope when he was doing so well?

[@jeffythesomething8772]

Because candy can’t be wrong.

[@zee_terminator2850]

Oy vey toyim

[@3DSDF]

@@jeffythesomething8772 yep, they probably realized that Santa’s reasoning was picture perfect, and knew they had to do something drastic in order to make Candy look right.

[@vincenthawthorne9360]

This is actually worse than the last of us part 2. That game never fucked up this bad because this one literally has it’s best saving grace right in front of itself.

[@MetroXLR99]

Most likely because as an audience, we were expecting the series to be summed up with that speech and for Candy to learn a life lesson that would've progressed her as a character (as is expected in the Christmas specials this series was satirizing.) But, no. They just went: "Screw it", and went with the cliche ending BECAUSE it was unexpected (and Somehow that is supposed to be funny.)

[@cradiculous]

Honestly that scene in the 6th episode where Santa explains why he didn't pick her is a perfect representation of the show's reception as a whole. A reasonable person gives a perfectly valid and well-thought explanation for why they didn't enjoy it, and Seth Rogan just starts slinging insults in defense and goes on the warpath.

[@trogg3rdmmxplaya467]

Yeah, its almost like he knew what would happen.....

[@painvillegaming4119]

@@trogg3rdmmxplaya467 we all did Nobody F with Christmas and get away with it

[@Kamina.D.Fierce]

It makes it even more ironic since it means he just read the lines without actually meaning or understanding a word of it.

[@ChicoDiamante]

That’s not what the speech was though, Santa told her she would be doing work behind the scenes but not any credit as the Face. Apples and Oranges, here.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@ChicoDiamante Which shows that's all Candy really wanted, validation. Nevermind she'd be THE most powerful person in Santa Inc. She'd have all the authority and decision-making power. "Something's gotta change!" as she put it - she'd be able to change things from behind the scenes... ...But in the end all she cared about was taking the credit for bringing "change".

[@rainmanslim4611]

The thing is, THIS is what Hollywood considers to be the "good guy" character. An attempted murderer who left a wounded man, in pain and possibly dying in the cold and dark to die because he was angry over being hit by a car. A narcissist who is shallow in the extreme and is completely unable (or unwilling) to see anyone beyond what they are physically, a ruthless backstabbing who'll slit throats and betray anyone to get what will satisfy her ego. And Hollywood sees this as a character people should cheer for and aspire to be.

[@boop004]

I think this is a Hollywood way of trying to appear "realistic" ... what we really see is their distorted idea of what they _think_ it looks like.

[@salanaya8718]

That's literally what it is!

[@ob2kenobi388]

As if most hollywood execs haven't stabbed their own share of backs to get where they are. They think these characters are the heroes because the execs think themselves the heroes.

[@kingcosworth2643]

This is the exact problem with the loss of the church. I don't believe in God, but I do believe in the core Christian values, and when most people were taught this moral framework society was a better place. But with the loss of the Sunday church, other groups have formed with their own particular moral framework, and in this case, the framework focuses on hedonism and group identities. This will not make for a good society.

[@ob2kenobi388]

@@kingcosworth2643 Christians aren't exactly the moral highground, either. Whether you're a good or bad person often has nothing to do with what religion you follow.

[@KE-yq2eg]

If you guys want a good Christmas themed story where Santa has to choose his next successor, watch Arthur Christmas. It's wholesome and really good character writing and drama.

[@loki1456]

Yes, it's so good to see someone recommending Arthur Christmas! It's such an underrated classic!

[@XwX1001]

I love that movie. =)

[@allys744]

I’ve never seen it, but I’ve heard it’s good! Kinda sad to see how children’s entertainment is way more mature and sophisticated than adults entertainment.

[@XwX1001]

@@allys744 Yes to both of those things.

[@tirididjdjwieidiw1138]

@@allys744 modern adult entertainment is like what teens and children think is “for adults”

[@mrdee2454]

You sacrificed your Christmas cheer to watch this trash for us. You sir are a hero.

[@SpringDavid]

a tragic hero.

[@Tharun786]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@rimfire8217]

God bless him.

[@icahopilm898]

blessed comments

[@TastyToez]

"I want them cargo shorts all over my body" I'm sorry but it was funny by the way she said it

[@lasarousi]

I'm glad that the creator is a woman, inspiration and proof that anyone can make tasteless and unfocused shit.

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

And let's admit that she is a hypocrite as she thinks it's funny when women sexually harass men or having a woman be the abusive one in a relationship

[@chosenone8456]

Lol

[@chosenone8456]

@@williampulfer-melville8536 that’s the left alright

[@stephhhie17]

Nuh uh, it's just proof that everyone is sexist and they only criticize the work of female creators because they hate women and they don't want to admit that a woman created an amazing show! jk lol

[@quitequeerquesadilla]

Finally, some actual inclusive rep-proving that anyone, no matter what gender, or ethnicity, or race, can always choose to be an unredeemable asshole

[@eg_manifest510]

when the "Villain" is the only sane and reasonable character in the whole show you know you've made a mistake somewhere (in this case it's making the show at all)

[@the-og-cerealkiller]

Santa's speech was the most mature thing in this whole show Then they ruined it You get more out of watching Care Bears At least somebody cares there

[@firstattempt356]

You can tell when a show or a movie is bad when a executive producer says that people who hate this movie are all white supremacists. Really show how mature he is and how someone takes criticism.

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Self-projection, basically?

[@DoktrDub]

He’s a leftist woke pot head who can’t admit that he’s a pseudo intellectual and one of the biggest grandstanding hypocrites on Twitter

[@DoktrDub]

@@TheSapphireLeo well yeah he is woke.. and a lot of woke culture is ironically racist, insensitive and bigoted lol, the very things they pretend to be against

[@michaelknox3715]

@@DoktrDub Nope not woke. Just out of touch just like mostly everyone in power nowadays

[@alexk7880]

@@michaelknox3715 still indoctrination of extremism. Trying to say out fp touch higher ups is sweeping under the rug of what people acting like mindless swarms being useful idiots regurgitating BS on identity politics shoes the extremism cult side

[@mrtuber8207]

I like how the backrounds have more effort than the character designs

[@Badookum]

thats kinda impressive ngl and not in a good way

[@biomechanicalcyber-jesus7573]

Budget had to go somewhere I mean… (no, no! I didn’t meant the backgrounds)

[@jbrocomicsricketybiscuitst2511]

That’s most adult comedy’s nowadays.

[@mr.vargas5648]

Yeah the character designs are horrible.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

I actually like the character designs. Rip. Can't say the same about most of the show.

[@karinababs9200]

Santa’s reason on episode 6 moment really hit home with me. My sister always talks about how she wants a baby one day, but from what I’ve seen she hates being around kids. I try to explain to her how that there’s a difference between wanting a baby and wanting to be a mother, she said that she’ll learn eventually but ik she doesn’t have maternal instincts. Whenever we babysit our younger cousins she only wants to hold and play with the babies but when the actual responsibilities come to play (such as feeding, changing and bathing and helping them sleep and when they start crying) she leaves me to do the work. Once the babies turn to kids she starts to ignore them. I don’t think that she’s intentionally bad with kids it’s just like what Santa says “you either have it or you don’t.” She also is on the spectrum so I don’t blame her if it’s too overwhelming, it sometimes frustrates me when she says she wants a family but won’t work for it.

[@roboticartist2793]

Your sister won't be a good mother, and that's ok.

[@davenortonsepicprankchannel]

​@roboticartist2793 That isn't okay.

[@roboticartist2793]

@davenortonsepicprankchannel I mean, if she doesn't have kids it is.

[@goingunder2548]

I hope she realises her biological children will have a super high chance of being autistic as well. And as an autistic person myself my parents can testify that I screamed constantly and needed more help and time reaching basic milestones than an NT baby.

[@whoopihyena8961]

I’m sorry this woman just hit someone with her car What did she expect? Them to be nice and calm? No you just hit someone with your fucking car, you should’ve expected them to get PISSED OFF AT YOU *ESPECIALLY WHEN IT’S CLEAR OUTSIDE AND THERE’S NO GINORMOUS MOUNDS OF SNOW TO ACTUALLY BLOCK THEM OUT*

[@GiantProcrastiNation]

Her actions at that moment took what could have been at best a citation and at worst vehicular manslaughter (depending on if he died) and made it a class D Felony, assuming US law.

[@hilariomendoza1784]

As somebody who's been hit by a car twice in broad daylight, yes he has every right to be mad.

[@BENOTAFRAID689]

Honestly, if there's ever a point at which you should be ok with someone shouting expletives at you...

[@silvermoons7539]

Kind of depressing that after such a speech she still couldn't see past her ego. You're right Steve. So close to saving itself

[@DirtyDev]

Yeah it would only make the show 60% shit if she accepted her role

[@robonator2945]

even worse because Santa factually backed up his point, she literally does not have the one qualifier, even if he is a douchebag after the fact that doesnt mean he was wrong. Even the worst of people get at least a few things right, they breathe air, drink water, eat food, etc and when his claims are factually substantiated you cant just have him be a douche later and then wipe that away.

[@TSBJunkie]

@@robonator2945 Exactly. How do the writers of the show expect us to side with her when he lays out everything explicitly? Suddenly making him a villain doesn't negate the truth of the things he said earlier.

[@robonator2945]

​@@TSBJunkie Honestly this is a really common issue with shows; they have someone be the villian and do some bad things and just expect us to forget that no they actually have a very valid point. Like all things the "for the greater good" argument isn't a binary "you said it so you're wrong" thing and a lot of shows have the villains making very excellent points that no, seriously, they may be right this may be a necessary thing but shrug it off just because "oh well, they're the villain so it doesn't count". Sometimes it seems sort of intentional like we're not supposed to just assume the protagonists are actually the defacto good guys and there is nuance, but other times it just feels like the writers didn't bother to think about what the villains were actually fighting for long enough. (in hindsight, not just shows, I can think of movies, games, books, all sorts of crap that has this issue.)

[@IN-tm8mw]

@@robonator2945 This is why alot of fans gave credit to black panther's killmonger. T'Challa even after winning the right to be king and Black Panther, didn't dismiss the points his villian made. I also love his interactions with Zemo in cival war.

[@scarlettsandiego778]

I actually agreed with Santa when he chose Devin as the next Santa Claus. Like, Candy is more of a person who just wants to get the work right. She didn't seem to care about the kids. She only cared about perfect delivery. And when she said "Fuck you" to Santa, I was like "Bruh, he has a point. You don't give a crap about children".

[@silent_shout]

because Sarah Silverman herself is childless and has hatred for Christians and Christmas. This movie is an attempt to justify her.

[@rivera229]

@@silent_shout Something tells me those are not the reasons why the movie was so bad.

[@commandertorres]

It couldve been like a Reagan and Brett situation. Both characters are polar opposites who compliment each others strengths. Brett’s a social butterfly who’s not entirely good with understand the way things work where as Reagan is the brains who knows how shit goes. Both compliment each other pretty well and episode 7 couldve had that moment where both can realize that they could work together and proved that they can work… But no, Santa’s Evil so that means she’s in the right. Like… get fucked. Not you, I meant the show.

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

@@silent_shout i didn't know she hated Christians

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

This is why i hate Kandy

[@m_e_s_o_t_h_e_l_i_o_m_a]

Even with them trying to make Santa look bad for why he didn't choose her, he isn't wrong. When one thinks of Santa, they think of a jolly person who loves and connects with every child in the world. Not someone who's uncomfortable around them and pushes them away.

[@kagato23]

They didn’t. Don’t get me wrong this show is dogshit. But they never actually say he’s wrong about this. They just have him be a hypocrite who isn’t living up to this standard either. But again they never say he’s wrong.

[@MrMrMrprofessor]

I really appreciate this review a lot, especially because you look beyond just the politics of the show, which is what a lot of other critics tend to get hung up on, and focus on EVERYTHING that's wrong with the show: the humor, the writing, the characters etc.. I especially like how you point out the hypocrisy and double-standards of the show, particularly when it comes to male victims of sexual harassment and marital abuse.

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

"People who don't like Santa Inc are white supremacists!" Me who is an Arab: "he could be any one of us!"

[@piretiris8223]

This show is haram

[@humanperson1835]

He could be you! He could be me! He could even be--

[@newbienoah9461]

*BLAM!* Whoa, Whoa! Oh! What? It was obvious! *cocks shotgun* He's the white supremacist!

[@Immortalis...]

Look! He'll turn red with white supremacist anger any second now! *taps foot with shotgun* ...Any second now!... SEE? RED! Wait.. that's blood.

[@dragonmanover9000]

I've heard whites and Arabs racially associated with each other. Is that not the case?

[@hunter_theo1208]

One thing I learned in my creative writing class is that you can't fix an unlikable hero solely by making everyone else even more detestable. You're still left with the problem of a bad protagonist.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Except everyone else around them sucks too so it's like a colossal world of jackasses.

[@tjenadonn6158]

@@eatatjoes6751 It goes from a show about bad people doing bad things (e.g. It's Always Sunny, SUPERJAIL!, Breaking Bad,) to a show about miserable people making each other miserable and making you miserable in the process. You can have crapsack worlds and shitbag characters that are still fun to watch and be around, but this show chose not to do that.

[@newbienoah9461]

@@tjenadonn6158 It also makes you want to step inside the show itself and kill everyone.

[@tjenadonn6158]

@@newbienoah9461 Just for their own sake more than your own.

[@third-ratedude4234]

In fact, that leaves you with a bigger problem. Now everyone in your story are jackasses, which can make your audience doesn't care of what will happen to them in the story.

[@irrationalgoose2290]

I like how they think when a guy is doing something rude, its evil, but when a girl does something rude its funny.

[@invisibleman4827]

"It's OK when we do it 😃!" 😒

[@blackmagician7645]

The Santa's choice explanation ending seemed like it was someone"s original direction. But who ever had higher authority of production decided against it. So that's how we got the more shallow ending.

[@thebigidea9659]

Absolutely vile.The fact the show actually had a chance to redeem itself only to completely drop the ball just proves that this is one of the worst holiday shows ever conceived.May it be forgotten and never spoken of again in the coming years.

[@saintsheepy6682]

It might be forgotten definitely. Remember that awful woke Cinderella film that premiered on Amazon Prime (which was said to be so bad even the Cult of Woke hated it)? Three months later, pretty much everyone has forgotten that film existed, that's how fast it aged like milk.

[@Aparthonox]

No. This should be counted as a horrific historical event and put into history books to teach kids to never do this.

[@Waaagh40KRed]

It'll be right next to Ghostbusters (2016)

[@youngbreezy9015]

Best ending of all time keep crying

[@cujoedaman]

They already confirmed a season 2... it's not going anywhere.

[@ComicalRealm]

"Santa blows all these shipping companies away. He delivers more than 2 billion packages in 24 hours. He does it by sleigh. He doesn't use tracking numbers and doesn't use trucks. He just uses midgets and a giant bag" - Beff Jezos

[@channelinamedmyself4324]

👌

[@MrSillyheadSr]

I though it was six million presents in 4 years?

[@keynanmartinez]

He just wants more money.

[@DaveInSnitchel]

Super intelligence and speed confirmed?

[@sebastiengendron6427]

@@DaveInSnitchel Santa's omnipotence can be quite creepy when you think about it (he sees you when you're sleeping and he knows when your awake or being "bad" or "good" so be good or else), the guy can travel at the speed of light to any location despite time zones and deliver presents to children (I wonder if he goes by an age range of who classifies as children) who may or may not celebrate it or know anything about it. Santa's reality bending physics are both interesting and terrifying since he only does it once a year.

[@namenotjef8175]

"I don't care what color the feminist is, she can kiss my ass." Had me dying 💀💀💀

[@YoungFlyz644]

I can’t believe they ruined Santa’s character at the end, the stealing is nothing like his personality and doesn’t mix well, they should have cut off the show after Santa had finished his speech

[@natedeanmaan2]

Despite this being a political pile of shit, it actually plays off as I knew it would. I knew she wasn't going to be Santa, and the fact that he gave a definitive answer was what surprised me and it was very logical. Santa isn't just the guy who gives presents, he's someone that the kids adore and admire, that's Santa 101. He even tells her that she's no good with kids, but the intern was.

[@AH-is5yg]

I really agree with you. It would have been perfect if they didn't ruined Santa's character and made him a villain. That really destroyed that moment. That was very terrible writing. Just when you got a great moment and Santa gave a reasonable speech only for it to be thrown away the next episode.

[@austinmorrison6953]

@@AH-is5yg Sigh...Yep, they were clearly just so focused on the shallow political message that they didn't care about things like nuance. Maybe if they had Santa explicitly say he wanted to take Candy on as the new CEO of Santa Inc while Devin is acting Santa or something...

[@aho9071]

Definitely agree bc I always remember in every Santa movies he says, "it's never about the present it's the moment we share" that's why he makes kids happy, but I guess she's too dumb and selfish to make that connection

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

Honestly I thought it would end more like, at least tonally, like Sausage Party, or like another family classic with a similar ending, Inglorious Basterds. You make up for yerself what that amounts to in Santa context.

[@AH-is5yg]

@@austinmorrison6953 I thought that speech would be a way to end season 1 and then the next season Candy is now CEO and she had to help guild Devin. At first she still angry about Devin being Santa instead of her and overtime she begins to warm up to him. Candy tries to be good with kids, but failed miserably. Devin comes in and he is good with kids. She begins to understand why Santa pick Devin. But no that will happen.

[@morgue.dweller]

"You can talk all day about making Christmas great for the children, who will one day lead the world, but can you _talk to them? Connect with them? No,_ they ran away from you." self awareness levels: 99.9%. they were so close.

[@moth300]

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[@destruction8946]

Leftist dogma that says you can be and should be whatever you feel like has gotten so thick that they couldn't take that last step.

[@HapeeMoonlight]

Oh come on, that scene where Santa explains why he doesn't choose Candy is AMAZING!!! My jaw was on the floor. I rewatched that part many times. But, yeah, the thing had to be fully disappointing or it would be a good show, but who wants those lately, huh?

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

It’s STUNNING how the show writes that brilliant bench scene and then spits on it immediately afterwards. I work with children and the most important part of the job is getting kids to feel comfortable around you. Of course, teaching them the material of the day is a must, but it’s all meaningless if they don’t want to be there. When you’re the only adult figure in the room, they want you to be approachable and kind because there’s no parents or siblings or other authority figure who can eject them out. Being someone kids can be themselves around, laugh around, work around, etc. is the real challenge. If Candy were a real woman applying for a position as a day care assistant, teacher, camp instructor, whatever, she’s out day one. Or she’s the horrible, mean bitch that every kid grows up to remember not too fondly

[@silverselkie1692]

Candy would be the teacher everyone comes up with a mean nickname for and only remembers by said nickname 10 years later.

[@tornadodee148]

I didnt ony find it stunning but also INSULTING as a member of the audience. as an animation fan. as a FEMINIST and as a W O M A N.

[@davideloiza1779]

@@tornadodee148 No… no it can’t be TRUE! I THOUGHT THEY ALL DISAPPEARED, PLEASE DON’T HURT MY FAMILY *PLEASE!*

[@RobinParravel]

As someone who spent a lot of years as a child, this is absolutely true.

[@wallamalon]

@@davideloiza1779 what the fuck are you talking about

[@ohohothisrocks]

That was a really good explanation to why candy couldn't be the next Santa. It wasn't racist, it wasn't sexist, it wasn't condescending, it should be one of the best character changing moments in the show. But the moment candy said 'go fuck yourself' to Santa was the moment this show could never redemn itself

[@f-22raptorlandingzone30]

It could have redeemed itself, the simplistic petty "go fuck yourself" could've been a cold closing to the scene used to communicate that candy is still not getting it or something and will learn the hard way, y'know to go with the 10 million other clearly intentionally communicated character flaws including the primary reason of the discussion of not being good with kids. Where the show really fucks up is when they wasted all of that by making Santa actually "bad" in the most forced way possible. "Because anytime someone you antagonize gives you an answer you don't want that countless people more driven than you have to make do with, it must be because they're lying snakes!!!" Coming from Seth "AHUGH AHUGH AHUGH" Rogan and the muppets that made sausage party

[@outerspace7391]

I think it could have been saved, but not by THOSE writers. The moment Candy said f off and walked away, it could have been the starting point where the show began showing the environment not from Candy's perspective, but from a third person, objectively this time. Progressively we learn how Santa has been right all along, while we gradually see Candy becoming the villain, going down a path of ignorance and hate against all those who denied her dominance over the company, revealing how she doesn't care about making kids happy, but more about her gaining full control over the place and establishing her rules. It could be easily achievable, considering how toxic her character was shown to be since the begining... But I guess the people who run it sympathise more with her than they do with anyone else.

[@flanflan88]

Yeah, it's because she's Jewish and it would make zero sense.

[@RobertPatrician]

@@outerspace7391Imagine if in the end Candy becaome The Grinch, someone who wants to steal Christmas because she wants it to be all about her.

[@kagato23]

Actually it’s affirming he’s making the right call. The problem was putting Santa into question afterwards.

[@cumbrap]

If it weren't for you i'd have to watch this, you're doing Gods work Steve

[@thereisbloodonmynutsack]

hi

[@scoutman66]

Daddy please come home and make more vids, it's been a year :(

[@ethanreynolds4942]

Your take on this show was not only beautiful, but actually hit on EVERYTHING messed up and wrong with this show. Your reviews are actually awesome and Im so glad i stumbled on your channel the other day. been binging it and loving every bit of it. Keep up the fantastic content and thanks for all of your hard work yo.

[@vadorrodav4370]

It's really a pity that the show is that bad considering how good the animation it is. What a waste of the use of stop motion

[@rayyaninspookymonth1630]

(Watch robot chicken instead)

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

Robot Chicken is WAAAY better when doing Christmas related stuff.

[@eatatjoes6751]

The only reason it's stop motion is to ape the old Robot Chicken shit.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

14:52: Wow, Seth Rogan is really Incompetent, huh? Wow. Just Wow.

[@lopolka5373]

Shut up. No. Fuck no. That is the most traumatizing artstyle to ever exist.

[@pikaace]

I can’t tell you how SICK I am of harassment and abuse jokes where the whole punchline is ‘it’s funny because a WOMAN is doing it’

[@PartyPlannerPreston]

For sure! It’s like a double standard

[@HusbandofLois]

@@PartyPlannerPreston Sad that people can very often only see how bullshit a double standard is because it doesn’t benefit them. It’s what modern feminism has become quite guilty of, but all of society did it in favour of men before that, for thousands of years longer. We’ve all been burned enough that we should know better

[@randomguy6679]

The main reason why Gina is the only bad part about Brooklyn Nine Nine

[@goyslop-consumer]

imagine being kicked out of 109 bars 1000 times and thinking it's the bartenders fault

[@brightblackgrouse6236]

Rare based comment in a sea of normie comments.

[@thatcarguy6190]

Excellent! Yes of course it's the racist "Tribe" once again Oh but they are soooo hated I wonder why eh?

[@JadeEyes1]

@@brightblackgrouse6236 "Based" is meaningless. It's pointless filler. Like those broads who type "LMAO" and "OMFG" or "I'm SCREAMING".

[@Malikav0311]

Based.

[@Tremere]

Based comment. Unfathomably based user name

[@alphared920]

I just want a stop motion show or movie that actually uses the medium to tell a compelling story, and not just be a Robot Chicken clone. At Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio looks interesting

[@theperfectbusiness8903]

watch something from wes anderson, aardman, laika, and henry selek

[@scorpiusrexman1017]

You know what’s even sadder…is that Robot Chicken make Christmas segments that are pretty good…than this piece of crap excuse of a Christmas series

[@TheLazyEconomist]

The murder mystery special with "inspector Jesus" is top tier.

[@reichtangleanschluss509]

Even sadder thing is that Robot Chicken creators were executive producers in this.

[@russellbrown6888]

@@reichtangleanschluss509 They're producers in that they did the stop-motion. Other than that, it doesn't seem like they had much other input (if they did the show might be way funnier).

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

As someone who doesn't like Robot Chicken much, I'll admit that some segments were actually good in the series including the Christmas segments.

[@Killgore-ip2yq]

@@reichtangleanschluss509 they were responsible for the stop motion but the writing is not their fault.

[@LaydiNite]

I think another interesting outcome would have been if Santa DID choose a female successor, but not Candy, for the same reasons stated. She wouldn't have the excuse of it being based in sexism then, and would have to face the fact that her personality was why she didn't get the job she wanted, rather than her gender. It would have been an avenue to force character growth and have her partially "succeed" in her plan while still not being rewarded for her negative actions. Then she has to make the choice to either support the female successor out of solidarity and help her move forward, or refuse out of pettiness and have to acknowledge that she wanted these things not out of a noble goal of equality, but out of her own jealousy and desire for more power and influence.

[@Mert_Yanik]

But then they can't use the victim card anymore

[@avosmash2121]

That would have been a rather compelling dramedy subject actually

[@RipRLeeErmey]

Sounds too interesting of a plot to shove the usual "men bad" plot down people's throats.

[@Mediados]

The problem is that her massive ego would have turned her straight up into a villain.

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

Yeah, but see the problem there is that I genuinely think they think Candy being a bitch is "Yaaaasss queen #BossBabe" empowering rather than just very unpleasant. They'd needed to know what they were doing to do this. Honestly a great idea tho - I'd watch the shit outta that

[@stardust1815]

Damn that speech Santa gave was really powerful. I don't think it would've fixed the show, but it might've added some merit to it. To bad the creators discounted an actually good message.

[@undonesolid]

Why do I feel like the producers hired a professional writer to try to wrap this show up, took what he wrote, and changed the ending to try to make candy the “good guy”

[@piperian3962]

The speech on the bench is so surreal, almost like a hostage wrote it as a secret message to the audience.

[@austinmorrison6953]

Staring to think someone had to be forced to greenlight it to begin with.

[@HeilRay]

@@austinmorrison6953 Sounds like Netflix.

[@beacondude5000]

I think what happened was the creators accidentally made something good but had to cover up their mistake by pandering more

[@austinmorrison6953]

@@beacondude5000 I do have a theory that a lot of Hollywood creators today are anti-effort and allergic to good quality shows.

[@demetriuskafkoulas5005]

I legit thought that Steve made the speech himself and at the end would have just said "Just joking! I made that up." I seriously couldn't believe this show could write something that logical.

[@Emu-]

Candy likes to antagonize anybody, even the children and anyone who disagrees with her views and arguments. she got way too obsessed with trying to be the first female non-white Santa just to say that she was the first. That's literally no reason to be Santa. She doesn't even want to spread Joy or happiness or anything. That's not even her objective Her problem is, She can't connect with anybody, not even the audience. Everyone is a hypocrite, Everyone is mean-spirited, Everyone says really stupid and unhumorous things constantly, And Everyone is thinking of themselves a lot. Literally, The only Good guy is Devin! How are we supposed to be rooting for any of the Protagonists at this point?

[@Adamguy2003]

From what I've seen in clips and whatnot, Cookie's husband comes across as mostly an okay guy too, other than his wussiness in letting Cookie treat him so crappily. Oh, and speaking of whom, I wonder how long it took for the writers to decide that the gingerbread woman should be named "Cookie"? They couldn't have named her "Ginger," or "Sugar," or "Gumdrop," or "Buttercream," or something like that? Maybe even given her a more normal- sounding name (i.e. The obnoxious slutty reindeer gal is named "Goldie")? I work as an Elementary school teacher's assistant, and I know of first- graders who could give her a more creative name!

[@iclickedbecauseiamtiredofs4630]

Candy IS ⚪

[@ratboi535]

She remind me of lisa simpsons...but worse, how the hell did they manage that

[@queenamour7496]

Complet y agree

[@iclickedbecauseiamtiredofs4630]

@@queenamour7496 I don't know why when candy is Sarah Silverman a pale woemen, and that is the BIGGEST pedestalised & coddled person in our society🙄. Just because it's the color green doesn't mean it's non-⚪ like the k/ren I see in real life hen pecking everyone even their husband. Candy would not advocate for you a blaq woemen & that reindeer friend is a caricature of cardi B & what they feel about minorities in proximity to THEM

[@murlocrj3108]

9:38 It would have been more of a triumph if she still helped him despite the fact he was sexist towards her.

[@yourcollegedebt8384]

12:25 I really enjoyed the discussion of this scene, so I put a time stamp here to come back to it in the future.

[@Sampocoffin]

The fact that Seth just assumed that only white people hate this show is ridiculous. I’m a POC and even though I haven’t watched the show, looking at this review convinced me to hate it

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

Show was starting to have good message honestly when he gave his reasoning why he picked the intern as his successor and not her but nope show throws it all away to show mmm men bad

[@chosenone8456]

Yup

[@mackybell14]

@@Deadhead-kq4hr True, Santa showed ture pragmatism and empathy in that scene, like real leader. Then she just tells him to fuck off, just shows how much disdain the writers have for Christmas.

[@blade8741]

Seth probably now thinks you aren't "truly black" because you disliked the show. :howitbe:

[@Sampocoffin]

@@blade8741 I’m not black but he would think of something like that

[@KBGVideos1]

Seriously! Santa’s explanation could’ve saved the show at least a little! Hell, the dialogue while explaining it was actually really good compared to the rest. But then they had to screw it up, and then it became one of the worst comedy shows to ever exist.

[@crimsondynamo615]

I really was about to have my opinion on the show change during the speech. Like I was thinking, “oh this show will finally have some nuance.” But then it all immediately gets thrown out the window like a full bedpan. Fuck this show.

[@3DSDF]

The dialogue sounded so good, I thought Steve was about to say “I just made that up, and here’s Santa’s actual reasoning”

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@crimsondynamo615 14:52: Wow, Seth Rogan is really Incompetent, huh? Wow. Just Wow.

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

Was this close to be an okay show with that nuance Santa reasoning behind not picking her but had to bed pan that shit

[@haxgamer0918]

@@3DSDF especially how he was just reading it instead of letting it play lol.

[@emilypatriciagarciacanals1039]

i dont give a damm about that blasphemouse show, all i care about was that amazing speech Santa gave out. Holy crap what a truly and incredible speech. Specially the kid´s part, man that´s some hardcore truth.

[@GingerofMassDestruction]

Why do I get the feeling this show was a warning to us about how bad Velma would be?

[@Wolfdawg504]

The ending of Episode 6 was absolutely perfect. Had Candy actually accepted Santa's explanation and took accountability for her shitty attitude with kids, I would have eaten my words about how awful the show was. But the writers pissed all of that away by making Santa the stereotypical villain, and making Candy into a Mary Sue who's never wrong.

[@Bustyn_Anya]

Well, it would have been a pretty shitty show with one good scene. But they threw even the CHANCE at having *one* good scene away, in place for just another shitty one.

[@sygos]

White male = villain. Were you listening to the rest of the dialog, or the executive producer explaining what race every critic of his movie is?

[@pastelpurpledeathbed]

Still wondering who asked and who needed an R rated Christmas animated movie.

[@mr.j7444]

the sad clown who let himself be convinced he was anything more than a court jester and also has major identity issues because hes buried in identity politics that tell him being jewish is the only good thing about him and hes jewish in ethnicity only with no sense of will to follow the actual faith thus giving him a constant need for external validation due to the collapse of the foundation of his self identity.

[@BetamaxFlippy]

@@mr.j7444 "bro that's like very antisemitic of you"

[@piperian3962]

…when Bad Santa already exists!

[@cordellriemer5177]

A sicko I suppose 🤔

[@corahtheskeleton8062]

There are ways of creating a R rated Christmas movie that work This was not one of them

[@cs82271]

I keep holding on to the hope that nobody actually acts like these characters in real life. But time and time again, people in California prove me wrong.

[@finnish_hunter]

"Today people see other people for what they are instead of who they are" is such a great quote.

[@ryaquaza3offical]

I still hate the fact companies just use the whole “you only dislike it because you’re an offensive person” these days. Dislike the new Ghost Busters? It’s because you’re sexist. Dislike the new Star Wars? It’s because you’re sexist. Dislike Santa Inc? It’s because you’re racist. Can we just stop please? It doesn’t even make sense as an argument

[@jacobj3933]

It's not suppose to make sense, it's a scapegoat

[@gav1233]

Didn’t a bunch of anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers flood the comment section of the trailer? I’ve heard a lot of the comments on the video were had extremely offensive “jokes” in them.

[@diegob798]

The star wars one is true though, I've been in the star wars fandom for years and is literally hell

[@jacobj3933]

@@diegob798 Then you're seeing what you're wanting to see. Sorry not sorry

[@stanisawwegrzyn8765]

@@gav1233 yeah, I've seen the comment section myself, it was a cesspool, but it doesn't mean that anyone who dislikes the movie is like this.

[@Ryder-a-Blaze]

This is the best Christmas gift ever, getting a review from Steve.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

14:52: Wow, Seth Rogan is really Incompetent, huh? Wow. Just Wow.

[@zackfoster2227]

Rightt? Was so happy to see a new vid

[@sand8515]

Damn, you have some pretty low standards

[@stengon2603]

Funny how she was obsessed with "being the first X Y" instead of actually making things better and improving the place, she just wanted the tittle of first female santa

[@Abandoned_Account88]

“Santa inc is the worst show ever made” Velma: allow me to introduce myself Queen Cleopatra: No no, allow ME to introduce myself

[@gaslightgatekeepgirlboss6321]

I actually think the premise is pretty interesting. But man, the execution is so bad lmao. Like damn Santa really gave Candy the BEST compromise and she just spat in his face. What a way to make your audience hate the protagonist

[@soniccookie655]

There were several parts I liked (Santa’s main option leaving for Amazon is kind of hilarious, when done right), and some cool premises. But then just really bad execution. Besides Santa, of course.

[@cian.o]

Why would she want to be Santa if she's bad with kids?

[@Rgoid]

@pain At the risk of playing Devil’s Advocate . . . As far as Candy was concerned, Santa was being a hypocrite.

[@libertatemadvocatus1797]

@@cian.o Because she wants the prestige and power of a job without any of the work or responsibility it entails. Which is actually pretty common among a lot of people.

[@annieandelsieofarendelle3294]

@@libertatemadvocatus1797 And you know if they played that angle that would've been fine.

[@8balls122]

worst part of this is, this is a great idea for a show, an inside job style office comedy set in santa's workshop could actually work

[@crimsondynamo615]

And ultimately that’s the biggest sin of this series. That it easily could have worked, but instead was lazy stupid bullshit.

[@8balls122]

@@crimsondynamo615 someone else needs to use this idea

[@gekkokkid]

actually it could have work if it didn't had a WOKE agenda and a Political BULLSHIT on it and it didn't deny the horrible HYPOCRISY with it's full on RACIST bullshit.

[@8balls122]

@@gekkokkid don't know why you said actually there, that's pretty much the point of the video and by extention what my post was about

[@chrisrockett5897]

Exactly this.

[@Toraryuko]

With Santa's reasoning I really thought that the show redeemed itself, but no, bait-and-switched.

[@takeshikujo2909]

Honestly, the series probably could have saved itself by having the twist being that after rejecting Santa’s explanation, Candy would turn out to be the true villain of the series. Taking everything to the extreme and ruling everyone up so bad in the process that she effectively destroyed Christmas that year, and would justify ruining everyone’s holiday and the careers of Santa Inc. employees by saying “we can rebuild a new Christmas, better than ever” and then spout these ideas that make everyone feel uncomfortable because it wouldn’t even feel like Christmas with them. The. She says F*#k all of you, leaves the village and then Christmas was officially bought by Amazon, now being a true soulless conglomerate instead of the magical, love thy neighbor time of year it has been for centuries, and we all had to thank one little elf who focused so much on the bad she saw, that it was all she ever welcomed, and never saw the good in what was happening, because it didn’t involve her getting her way the way she wanted it. A super bummer ending indeed, but at least it would have stuck the landing on so many levels and at least be a decent satire and even cautionary tale on what’s practically happening now with Christmas and how people are acting, especially when trying to solve a problem they genuinely wanted to solve instead of transforming it into something else entirely. That’s just my opinion though. Please don’t treat me like Candy and the gang treats everyone on the show for this. 🥺 🙏🏻

[@justinglock20]

I'm still not convinced this whole thing isn't a parody. They really can't be this bad by being serious...can they?

[@adventureinc.9769]

I was kind of thinking the same thing. The way the characters are unlikeable feels weirdly deliberate. Like, the set-ups that make you end up hating the characters (like the bit with the baby shower) almost seem too villainizing to have been done by accident. What if they made this whole thing so rage-inducing so people would hate-watch it?

[@catbatrat1760]

@@adventureinc.9769 "What if they made this whole thing so rage-inducing so people would hate-watch it?" You may be onto something there. I mean, The Emoji Movie made a million and a half in profit, and I imagine most of that was from people watching it ironically. Maybe the people who made Santa Inc saw that and went "Hey, maybe we ought to try the same thing!"

[@lightningpenguin8937]

Nah, it feels to genuine to be fake. They somewhat believe in what they made.

[@jordanaguirre5813]

@@lightningpenguin8937 or they could be too afraid to say they don’t believe in it? Creating a half that people want to relate to, and a half that makes you ask “what is this”

[@ChaosoneX]

Unfortunately, Seth Rogan has been like this for years, like before he made that Superbowl commercial with Amy Schumer talking about the wage gap.

[@ChillyJack]

Candy leaving someone who said mean things to her to die isn't remotely surprising. Spend 10 minutes looking at how these people act on Twitter and you'll realize they'd do the same thing in real life.

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

Even if my worst arch nemesis were to do that to me, I would still help him/her because I know I'm less of a shitbag than them and I don't wanna stoop on that level. Rubbing that "see that? Im not am asshole unlike you" in their face. Also some people just have that inherent kindness in them despite their god awful demeanor but egotistical people who think they aren't bad are much worse than some bullies. Bullies know that they are la king something and are insecure and vent out om their targets but some bullies do change for the better

[@chosenone8456]

@@janinebelleestrada7096 true, people can change but the twittter users who think there the good guys and are never wrong, those types of people I’m afraid will never change for the better sadly

[@jonathanoriley8260]

@@chosenone8456 The question then is how do you handle such evil people who refuse to change for the better? Are you supposed to just sit back and watch them ruin the world?

[@thewildcardperson]

@@jonathanoriley8260 kill them on the spot but people don't have the balls to do that anymore

[@o_ver2.094]

@@thewildcardperson damn guess every single living being on the planet deserves To die by your logic

[@cakestealer5983]

That ending... I can’t believe they almost had something and then chose to throw it out the window.

[@Leogryph]

wow the quote from Santa actually made it seem like they had good writers for the show for a second

[@meatyofficial]

They probably hired a really good writer for an hour and then they escaped from production when they saw the rest of the shitty script

[@benthomason3307]

"The guy who was chosen to be Santa's successor defects over to Amazon." Okay, that was seriously funny.

[@boomerangmonkey8263]

Yeah, that was one of the... Two pluses the show has.

[@Green-Raccoon777]

He knew why he was being chosen, and promptly gtfo. He knew what was coming, anyway.

[@mx9226]

That whole speech Santa gave about not choosing Candy was actually really good. And then the show shot the scene dead and fucked its corpse on a burning pile of HBO Max subscriber money.

[@guichabanaano27]

This sums it up pretty well

[@Dylan-jp9mr]

They sure did bud lol

[@vla1ne]

They were so obsessed with "the message"" that they straight up threw away the one shot at even a remote chance of redemption.

[@Dylan-jp9mr]

@@vla1ne i was very impressed with the writing for santas speech, i was shocked when steve showed the dumb shit they did after that. It makes me wonder how horrible people can write something beautiful and have they themselves believe that HE'S a piece of shit and not her. I mean THEY wrote it but they wanted the audience, US to think hes bad. Smh I dont know if anyone understood what i was trying to say but yeah

[@vla1ne]

@@Dylan-jp9mr I get you. That is just who they are now. They consider a logical, well thought out argument to be a negative, why do you think they never make a logical answer for why the role of santa should change beyond "it's time for change". To them, a coherent argument is proof positive of all that they deem negative.

[@connorrobinson9548]

Love how he reads the nice Santa speech because Seth's voice is like sand paper on the ears

[@Joaquin546]

My favorite character of his was him as "geek watching por* on computer"!

[@Supersurfer12]

The Velma show reminded me this show existed and wanted to compare

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

I just despise shows like this, it’s just nasty and strangely spiteful, it has nothing to say, just spite.

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

I wish animated adult shows had writing like King of the Hill, Archer and Aqua Teen Hunger Force these days. Adult comedy nowadays just consists of someone just blankly farting.

[@Killgore-ip2yq]

That speech ending you explained would have been perfect for this show. "You are a great person but you don't like what the job represents which is why I need you to be guiding the new Santa so he can do it right." God that would have been beautiful, but it's hurt by being so full of itself. If anybody interested just look up Arthur Christmas. It's literally the perfect Christmas movie you can watch about what it truly means to be Santa Claus.

[@ej7416]

Isn’t that the arc for the older brother in that film

[@Killgore-ip2yq]

@@ej7416 Yep. He was a excellent in handling the operations of being Santa but not Santa himself. Arthur despite being clumsy and less experienced was so compassionate he was willing to risk his life for at least one child on Christmas just so she can get her presents. It's a underrated gem.

[@nobodybroda3826]

Ego is the greatest killer of some folks, they let themselves get so wrapped up in what they want, what they DESERVE, that they forget the future or the past, only thinking about now. She could of made changes so that the next Santa could be a woman, easily. But no, she wanted the glory, she wanted to be the savior. No one else but her.

[@Dilapidated_Dilo]

@@Killgore-ip2yq and the funny thing is Steve actually accepts that Arthur was chosen because he knows that he's a better Santa

[@claytoniusdoesthings9598]

1:27 It's my understanding that KZbin was the one who actually pulled the plug on the comments section. To borrow a comment on Critical Drinker's video on this show; "KZbin has to look out for small creators, like HBO Max".

[@rosieyss8524]

I don’t understand why they made candy Jewish but wants to be Santa :/

[@wlfmanjack]

Anyone remember Arthur Christmas? That movie about how Steve was the prime candidate for the successor of Santa, but realizes Arthur had the right mindset for the role and graciously steps down to be the support. Good times

[@ramdomgiltter5590]

Yesss!!!!!

[@XwX1001]

Gotta love Aardman Animations, man.

[@MrMrMrprofessor]

Quite possibly the most underrated Christmas movie of all time. I'm so glad it's getting some recognition.

[@freddyfazbear363]

Author Christmas needs more recognition because the movie is really good

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

That was a damn good movie

[@GhostOf0nyx]

Imagine if Candy took Santa's explanation to heart. Then decides to be the best she can be. Have Amazon come out with some program to usurp Santa and subscription block Christmas. Then Candy makes everyone get their shit together and puts Devon through training hell to make him the best Santa he can be. She gets back at everyone by just improving things all around and eventually becoming the head honcho behind the scenes and sticking it Bezos. But that's just my hot take as someone currently in the shower and who hasn't watched show.

[@invidatauro8922]

Not only that but it would be message that everyone could get behind with a villain that basically everyone hates.

[@theworldisajojoreference8342]

Fuck, man, that's a better plot than the entire show

[@joyfulleader5075]

That sounds like a way better ending than what an entire team of writers could apparently make

[@dryridley208]

Heil Helghan

[@XwX1001]

"They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot" - TV Tropes (whenever a piece of media wastes its story potential and the viewers can think up something better)

[@Gnonne]

I do find it funny that the only reason why Santa should change is because they have all be “white males”. They don’t dive into there character, give a example of why they were bad, nothing.

[@zera6653]

9:45 I'm very sure anyone will shouts Bad things when in immense pain from being hit by car you should not leaves people bleed

[@mukhylogregorivich4995]

What I want to know is how Santa's workshop has only two ovens, but prepares six million cookies for Christmas in such a short period of time?

[@kingofthegrill]

The ovens in Santa's kitchen wouldn't even work as depicted in Santa Inc. There's no topside ventilation and the ovens themselves have big gaps in the doors. I don't even think they were metal, you're not gonna bake any cookies at all with that kind of setup!

[@ohemdoublegee]

That really sucks. That santa speech was amazing and is such a hard lesson so many people need to learn

[@joegover9452]

And they fucked it up

[@DeepEye1994]

Monster University did it better. If you cant quite reach the spot you wanted because you're just missing a spark no amount of hard work will give you, that doesn't make you worthless and you can still find a compromise that'll make all parties happy.

[@Nic_2751]

@@DeepEye1994yeah but in this case what being Santa really means

[@redstreak9430]

So that’s the second time Seth Rogen brought down a decent animation studio for a meh project. Hopefully this time the animators weren’t as screwed over with their paychecks. It’s stuff like this is why I’m scared for Ninja Turtles’ state after he’s done with them.

[@gabrielneri2820]

wonder how his Donkey Kong performence will be...

[@grimsonforce7504]

@@gabrielneri2820 like shit.

[@filetofish7688]

Hopefully their animators don’t get blacklisted from the industry like what happened to those working on Sausage Party

[@Void_Out]

@@gabrielneri2820 Well for one, he’s not writing or directing that role, so if he does a decent performance, it will be mainly because of everyone else. Kind of like his role in Kung Fu Panda, which is pretty good and can get a good laugh.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Seth Rogen has seriously lost my respect, at this point.

[@qiqi9057033]

Omg you seriously almost had me in the end right there. I felt the power behind those words only for it to be squandered. Damn, I am honestly disappointed about how great that twist could have been.

[@wdf70]

I think the worst part is the amount of work that clearly went into the models. Just looking a single frame of Santa it's clear that so much effort went into the design of the characters and it's a damn shame they got stuck making a show like this..

[@deutschamerikaner]

Inside Job was a great show that did the “got overlooked for the promotion because of X” way better. The main character learns to work together instead of staying bitter.

[@dhnation4975]

I would argue that show is even more hypocritical but that's just me.

[@deutschamerikaner]

@@dhnation4975 It definitely reeks of identity politics, but I like how they didn’t make the “straight white male bro” the antagonist like they did with this show. Also, I found it legitimately funny.

[@trla6505]

Also she didn't want the job because she was a women she wants it because she a genius

[@retrolightning2k86]

Reagan was the fully realized Candy. Not only was she an actual genius with ideas for incognito, but you can actually see her flaws as a person and how shitty it was when her boss didnt make her the head. And she actually felt devoted to that promotion rather than it just being something on a checklist for her

[@deutschamerikaner]

@@retrolightning2k86 Exactly! Reagan is actually a good flawed character.

[@alymatronicdeeare8265]

To be fair a Santa does need to be good with kids.

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

True Arthur Christmas mentioned that as an Important rule

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

@@williampulfer-melville8536 I fucking love that movie.

[@Dabajaws]

@@zvenafnazbalji7539 let's forget about this shit show and just talk about Arthur Christmas

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

@@zvenafnazbalji7539 its pretty hard to tell it's an Aardman film

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

@@williampulfer-melville8536 Yeah that's one of my main problem with the movie but I still really like it.

[@Enk64]

I've made some pretty bad content in the past, best thing you can do is own it and say "Yeah it was bad, we misread the room on what we thought was going to be good but we messed up. We'll try better next time." I think the team behind this show should've done that.

[@masterseal0418]

The problem is for this show is that it has an interesting concept of an elf girl taking the place of Santa when he retires. Sadly the execution was botched big time and we get one of the lowest rated shows on IMDB. I'm glad this was short-lived because no one(including black people which were stereotyped as reindeer)ever liked Santa Inc.

[@Blaiyan]

By 14:30 I thought this was going to turn into a, 'all the reviews got it wrong, they weren't really paying attention to the message of the story'. Then directly after, 'nope, it just what you thought it was'. This was the best review of it I've watched. Especially pointing out the hypocrisy.

[@user111real]

You should watch Just Stop's review, he touched more on some of the points that Steve made.

[@moth300]

It’s a scene -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH_KmIyAnapspK8

[@traumateaminternational4732]

I thought the same. My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

[@UltraGalaxyify]

@@moth300 What the fuck does that have to do with this?!

[@moth300]

@@UltraGalaxyify nothing

[@IronDragon-2143]

The reason why the modern Santa Claus is an elderly white man with a beard is because he's based off of many different European interpretations of the Spirit of Christmas. Father Christmas in the United Kingdom, Pere Noel in France, Sinter Klass in the Dutch Netherlands, the list goes on. And they all have their roots in the 3rd Century Christian Monk Saint Nicholas who was famous for giving gifts to children. And yes I'm well aware that Saint Nicholas was a Turk but that's not how the European Legends evolved over time. It's not a racist conspiracy theory, it's just a tradition. And more importantly it's a victimless tradition.

[@gerryfromthevoid8986]

Nobody really cares that Santa is white, it's just mindless political performative wokeness that I'm surprised everyone on earth didn't get bored of way long ago

[@IronDragon-2143]

@@gerryfromthevoid8986 Well Cancer doesn't just magically disappear one day.

[@madamkoifish]

There is actually a female Santa in Italy called La Bafana. The Christmas witch who gives treats to good children.

[@lasarousi]

Like Jesus being depicted as a white dude with ripped abs because Caucasian people wouldn't mingle with a brown Savior. Culture and tradition is often just a thin veil for exclusivity and gate keeping, but if it's not your culture one should just deal with it.

[@gaiusjuliuscaesar9902]

@@lasarousi Well, that and Jesus' race changes depending on what country you're in. For example, Chinese Jesus.

[@KneeCapHill]

"A mochery of christmas brought to you by the people who killed jesus"

[@AgentSmith911]

The youtube comments on HBO trailer was more funny than the entire show lol