I Joist Roof Framing: What You Need to Know

[@VoiceButch]

One thing I really appreciate about I-Joist when used on roofs is how straight they are. Plus, they do not tend to twist and split when you nail them.

[@johnhintermaier7651]

Started framing in 1964 in upstate New York State. Roseburg dimension lumber was the best for framing but very rare in the Eastern United States. Karl Paulsen Lumber was our supplier and he did his best to buy carload lumber from Roseburg. Because of the 100" snowfall usual each winter rafters were often 2 X 12's with the same for the ceiling joists in multi-car garage with spans exceeding 18 feet. Of course by the 1970s in Michigan we were using trusses with I Joists replacing 2 x 8's and 2 x 10's for the floor joists. Thanks for the content to remind that progress is always a factor in framing even for an eighty-one year old former framer, God bless and be safe!

[@DjeehBear]

Always a pleasure to witness how passionate you are about your work. Again, fantastic work ethic. I've been working in construction for 2 years and I am very grateful for all the passionate framers and carpenters I crossed paths with. I like to learn more and more every day. Looking forward to hearing more about I joist. I was an arborist and faller for 10 years. Little tip here, just so you know, chain saws(or any engine for that matter) like to have some time to cool down after the effort before they get shut off. Makes'em last longer. Thank you so much for sharing your work with the world.

[@ericamdahl3274]

Thanks Timmy! Talked my old man into using I-joist on our next framing project. Couldn’t of timed it better on this one!

[@AKcabins]

Thanks for the videos! I’m building a new remote cabin in Alaska. I joists are way lighter to haul in and easier for my solo building. Love your photography too. Come on up to Alaska for some great stars and lights 😃

[@GoFlyThatKite]

Framing and celestial photography… I might have just found my new favorite channel.

[@jpelfrey325]

Dude I'm so glad I finished this.. Not only awesome work but seriously sweet stuff at the end

[@AlexofAddison]

Came for the framing, stayed for the photography. I really enjoyed the PNW when I was stationed there.

[@joshstorey4604]

Really enjoyed seeing the passion behind the passion. I share your passion of building and really respect your attention to detail and efficiency. I’ve been a carpenter for 7 years and look up to carpenters like you.

[@drumswest5035]

One of the beauty of ijoist is that you can get them in much longer lengths than dimensional lumber and can get longer spans and no warping.

[@ironwoodworkman4917]

That was a amazing photo with the blue waves and facing North. It makes me miss Western WA. I think you might like the sky's of MT as well. Anyhow that was a nice surprise. I came here for the framing. Did not know about your camera hobby.

[@gateway8833]

I’m a Firefighter. I fought 2 Fire in a houses with these type I Joists. In one house the fire burnt the Untreated I Joists in the attic to the point the Fire self ventilated and we lost most of the roof. On the 2nd house the I Joists and roof deck was painted with intumescent paint. The Joists were just scorched, but maintained integrity. intumescent paint is about $450 for 5 gallons, but that’s really cheep compared to a House.

[@SM-xm7dt]

Your Milky Way shots were very cool.

[@terencemerritt]

Wow Tim, the photography of the night sky was incredible

[@VillelaHN]

Thank you for showing those framing details and beautiful photos.

[@WilliamGushulak]

Great filming, always looking forward to the next video. retired now, construction all my life and enjoyed every moment. your framing is sooooo clean.

[@mdun1440]

Great and clear explainations for this process! It really makes a difference when you can lean on a solid engineer as well. For those starting off in this trade, this is gold to have Tim take the time to teach his wisdom and knowledge. Keep up the great work, and love the photo skills!

[@clydenakashima7393]

You are fortunate to have areas where they are dark skies to see the stars. People who lived in the city never get to see the stars because of all the lights there. Yes the Olympia west coast is a beautiful area.

[@highdesertjohn]

Good stuff Timmy. As always i enjoy the framing knowledge and seeing the similarities to how we do it in southern California. I equally enjoyed the photography. You're an all around cool and smart dude that I imagine would be fun to hang out with.

[@billzima7068]

Brother..them shots are absolutely gorgeous. Incredible..Mr. Awesome everything lol. Seriously..amazing!!

[@mycowboyways915]

I too have to work day job to fund my photography ! LOL ! Great shots !

[@AndrewBilotta-s7q]

Awesome roof framing techniques! Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed your celestial pics at the end.

[@alangalloway6361]

Love your content. I always learn something and sometimes it’s great to watch y’all work. Dance moves, wellllll 🤣

[@michaelfunari]

Best dressed framers on the inter-webs!

[@TBird89]

Tim nice… a simple description to your method of madness. 👍

[@TH-cb9bh]

Your best video yet. Informative, funny, I love the photography stuff you threw in at the end. I wish I could visit Washington and also hire you to build a house for me.

[@steveharkins279]

Straight as an “Arrow”, Tim, good job.

[@johnypitman2368]

I'm retired now but I found that engineered framing stock for floor and roof has a ton of reasons clients will gladly pay the premium. From the bottom I joists make the underfloor so much cleaner. Less obstructed space. I ran my pex through the knockouts and my joists were deep enough I could get 9 inches of insulation under the pex and leave it uninsulated trapped in the 5 inch dead space. Gets cold here but I designed the pex to drain to a low point near the crawl space. Above at floor my customers marveled how perfectly flat and squeak free the floor was. Yes I joist rafters are more labor intensive that sawn lumber but!! Sawn lumber quality have become poor and difficult to work with. I joists with sawn tails complete a superior package. With the skued universal hangers it's solves the custom hanger issues. 32ft I joists are eassy to handle with man power alone

[@ldtenenoff]

Crazy good work and yup being outside as often as 1 can surley helps our soul thanks fer sharing

[@UriahtheHittie24601]

Found your channel through the build show. I have commented on Risenger as well. Life choices have not afforded me the opportunity to live in a well-built home. I watch your channel and marvel at the craftsman ship, hardwork and dedication to your craft. A dream to live in a well built home. The photography was a added treat. Outstanding pictures! What an experience that looked to have been. Enjoy ❤ super happy for you.

[@BARB33RIAN]

I've always just assumed the dudes wrapping lumber get paid by the staple, just like the dudes who silicone temp blocks to the bottom of windows get paid by the tube.

[@1964morph]

always learning something new watching your channel

[@drall912]

you cant get any better than this: framing and star gazing photography. WOOOOOOOOOOOW

[@PazLeBon]

but no cats

[@kai6424]

I am convinced! I am going to build my adu with I Joists rafters if the cost affords me to.

[@gravydog51]

I thought you were cool before but after seeing your photography you are majorly cool now! I was born in Washington 73 years ago and I'm still here!

[@PazLeBon]

lol

[@TomTregilgas]

Amen. Not surprised you're looking up... Miss the PNW... living in Switzerland has its own perks, though...

[@AwesomeFramers]

We visited Switzerland 2 years ago and absolutely loved it! We stayed in Lauterbrunnen and GrindelWald then a few days in Lucerne. We will be coming back for sure.

[@cottagekeeper]

Your photography is captivating - love creation and it's creator!

[@curtisbme]

Dude! I didn't know we ever had bioluminescence waves in the PNW. Great pics! Going down a rabbit hole now...

[@AwesomeFramers]

I didn't until the day before 😁

[@hampyonce]

Great photography segment.

[@brianflanders5831]

Love watching you work. I was tought by and old timer that did not trust nails and everything was held up by other pieces of wood.

[@TheoneandonlyRAH]

Those photos at the end of the milky way are sickkkkkkkkl

[@KrAsHtheKaRpEnTeR]

Awesome photography!! I'm from WA, and it is definitely one of the most beautiful places to live.

[@kennethharman2779]

Nice work, beautiful Milky Way photos👍

[@erickrunkkala5675]

Clean framing! Good job boys

[@waynebrazeau855]

Awesome work!!! Maybe some more photography , great info 👌

[@missulu]

Incredible images! Pretty amazing stuff! Thanks for sharing this with us!

[@airman6822]

Awesome video. Great framing details and loved the photography stuff, just cool!

[@x-otiic1137]

the movie is dodgeball a true underdog story and is still to this day one of my favorites

[@mra95662]

We have been using a shaped top plate, ripped at the lumber yard.

[@plumbthumbs9584]

Appreciate the photography segment, thank you.

[@jimnasium3346]

Fantastic step by step narratives.

[@BasBommel]

As a metric guy I just love your holding on to the Empire measures. Having said that I love watching what you guys build, it is inspired and we EU folk should be taking note....wood framing rules....

[@PazLeBon]

as a brit i think imperial is kinda naff, like using shillings and farthings :)

[@Aboston857]

Beautiful framing and pictures!

[@tanman2268]

Bravo my dude. Great shots of Gods glory and creation

[@dansklenicka8403]

Enjoyed watching your video thanks !

[@michaelsingleton8978]

Great educational video. Thanks

[@BenignoBello-p9r]

Great fotos really enjoy them

[@2ddw]

Ruby beach photos are awesome!

[@kevinstenger4334]

I wish we had some awesome framers around here. Everyone here (Chattanooga) is a non-English speaking illegal and they don’t care what plans or builders say, they do everything the way they know, wrong or not. A house a buddy of mine was building a couple of years ago was getting framed when he was having health problems and he was at doctor appointments everyday. He mentioned to his framers several times that something didn’t look right and asked if it was level. The framer said it was good, my buddy asked where’s your level I want to check. He says “we professionals, we don’t need a level”. As it turns out the block guys screwed up the foundation and the back left corner was 9” lower than the rest of the foundation and the professionals framed right on top of it. My buddy couldn’t get them to fix it so he had to fire them right in the middle of framing the roof and get someone else to come in and jack up the back corner to fix the foundation and finish the framing. You guys do awesome work!

[@markcarlson1945]

Great photography

[@loganminton2741]

Awesome video. Very informative. I may be late to the game, but could you make a video on how to make a set of those advantech saw horses?? Great idea!

[@AwesomeFramers]

ask and you shal receive 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/apW6fpenbtF6frcfeature=shared

[@loganminton2741]

@@AwesomeFramers you’re the man

[@lanceodell8058]

WOW, Amazing photos

[@patrickkenny2077]

Great images.

[@ritste1654]

WHY DO I WATCH THESE VIDEOS? Good question. LOL. It is nice to see that even real craftsmen make mistakes.

[@CAMCAM413]

Whoa… I love stargazing 😊 it’s so relaxing

[@smithsalesco.auctioneersmi8600]

Nice work, well done.

[@Mike-us5wg]

Saving this as a reference for my future home build. If you guys do any charity work, please let me know.

[@ritste1654]

Beautiful pictures at the end. I could see those photos turned into wall murals. Not sure how much it would cost to get a wallpaper made of them, but I bet you could sell a few.

[@ericlarkin6563]

Nice work!

[@sailingwiththegods538]

We're going to need to start using more engineered rafters just to meet the energy code. R-49 for now, r-60 will be coming. Either these at wider spacing or use spray foam, either way it'll be costly.

[@Dsanrides]

Also, beautiful photos 👏

[@benjaminb5905]

Tim, you might check out Sigma's 14mm f/1.4 DG DN Art series lens if you want a lens tailor made for astrophotography.

[@AwesomeFramers]

@@benjaminb5905 I've got a Sony 14mm bit never use it. 20 is a sweet spot for me but I want to use the 14mm for some close up foreground of flowers with the MW behind it

[@jeffryrichardson3537]

Awesome building content. I am learning a lot from you guys. Keep up the amazing work. The pics of the Milky Way and the bioluminescent was breathtaking. How can I get a nice speed square like the in that you feature. I love watching your show and Perkins Builder buddy. I appreciate all that you all do.

[@AwesomeFramers]

@@jeffryrichardson3537 Martineztools.com And thanks!

[@tealkerberus748]

14 hours ago .. guess I'm caught up on this series for now. Time to surf the back content I missed. This isn't even how I want to build my next house, but the thinking behind what you're doing is worth hanging out for. If you were tasked with building a house that would still have people living in it 500 years from now, how would you go about that build?

[@johnhaller5851]

That's a really interesting question. Maintenance is definitely going to take its toll over time. Water wears everything over time. How many roofs will a house need in 500 years? What will the impact to the structure below be from all those replacements? Will rooftop solar be needed? What do you do for windows? Double or triple pane windows fog up and need to be replaced perhaps every 40-50 years. Perhaps the old window plus storm design isn't so bad. How do you make interior living space flexible for future changes in functionality. My house has a wet bar as a relic of the county being dry in the past, so people had more parties in homes, but now it's mostly wasted space.

[@ssmith2019]

Love your Viddies ! 😁

[@gerardgreenan907]

Hello Tim, Love watching your channel fantastic as usual. The photography was amazing! If you not mind me asking - what drone do you use and do you rate it. Thanks Gerard (from the UK - THATS RIGHT! - you’re a global superstar now!!!)

[@AwesomeFramers]

I use the DJI Mavic 3. Spendy but its been worth it for me.

[@gerardgreenan907]

@@AwesomeFramers thanks for getting back to me, keep up the great work my friend.

[@lotterylottery2984]

Nice pic of the Milly Way.

[@hampyonce]

That gas powered stihllsaw is BadAsp.

[@LanreLordHaliax]

I'm new here. Thanks for sharing. How long have you been at it, man? I was thinking about starting the framing learning journey..

[@BasBommel]

I just love how Empire guys embrace ISO, which is a metric organization....😂

[@georgeking5746]

The movie you referenced is Dodgeball

[@memak3022]

Dodgeball 😂love that movie. My husband & I are just about to submit engineered plans for a build in Clallam County… Which we planned to DIY… Now we’re watching uTubes… How busy are y’all spring 2025?

[@PazLeBon]

youtube

[@martinphillips7221]

wood framing and sky framing

[@steveharkins279]

Question about “Net zero ready”, in Georgia they spray foam the roof between the rafters, to keep AC handler cool. That said, in “Pennsylvania” they spray foam the attic ceiling and let the air handler fend for itself in heat. Where does “Washington state” insulate in your framing for HVAC efficiency? It like a conundrum, I see’s it, I’m still working on believing it.

[@AwesomeFramers]

That is a great question and frankly I'm not knowledgable to answer. My brother could @pioneerbuildersinc

[@briand3837]

That chainsaw cut was terrifying to watch. Please stand to the side in the future.

[@toddb8479]

So all the off fall can fall on his feet?

[@briand3837]

@@toddb8479 I don't know if there is any danger of kickback. I don't think the anti-kickback device would even work based on hand placement. I would have straddled or kneeled on top of the joists maybe. I worked in the emergency dept for over 30 years and chainsaws were incredibly destructive to tissue and bone, as well as creating dirty, dirty wounds.

[@tealkerberus748]

This. You've always got to think, "if something went wrong, how would it go wrong?" and with chainsaws there's a lot of ways they can go wrong. A chain snap lashing back at you is just one of those ways.

[@toddb8479]

@@briand3837 yes chainsaw cuts are dangerous, but that’s why Tim is wearing the appropriate chaps.

[@briand3837]

@@toddb8479 There is no groin protection that I can see. Would be truly voice and life changing.

[@bertbergers9171]

I still don't understand the need to overframe 90degree section on the roof, feels like you could use some valley rafters and get everything in place from there. ( Not a remark against you guys, but to the construction norm in the US as shown on KZbin) Is there a problem with point loads of those valley rafters instead of continuous load by using regular rafters over the span? That being said the build looks straight and secure! Great job. The photography looked stunning!! Great to see your enjoyments on occasion! Thanks for sharing

[@AwesomeFramers]

Yes for sure we could frame true valleys. Frankly tracing the loads is much simpler with overframing. It is also stronger in an earthquake due to the main roof being fully sheathed.

[@bertbergers9171]

@@AwesomeFramers Thanks for answering, and making the main roof suited for earthquake structure was beyond me, never thought of that to stiffen up the build. We only have one minor fault line in the south of the Netherlands as far as i am aware (1 smallish earthquake destroying a whole street of chimneys in my 45 years and no older people talking about it happening before) and in recent year recession above a gas bubble made troublesome earthquakes in the north. So we are bit spoiled for ease of building. (As long as we get our footings right)

[@Stevesbe]

We used 30ft LVLs for the roof onthe last house

[@didineparetto9473]

The hangers should be resistant to corrosion over time, especially in humid environments.

[@MichaelJ674]

Western Oregon ain’t too bad either 😊.

[@timholmes7964]

True. As long as you’re not near Portland.

[@AwesomeFramers]

We love Oregon! We head to Bend and Sunriver once a year. I need to get down the coast more often, next summer Milky Way at Sam Boardman! and Crater Lake and Alvord Desert. We last went to Alvord in 2015 to shoot Milky Way, I think we need to do it again. Darkest skies I've every been under.

[@Kate-turbokateproducts]

What type of scribe pen do you use I'd really like to use it it makes a dark enough lines so my old eyes can see it

[@bobsundance9297]

How did you get the halfway up blocking flush w the long 30' joists?

[@AwesomeFramers]

The are rotated 90 to the rafter so its the same material as the I Joist

[@renepalomares6161]

Pregunta cuantos pies pude estar separado entre pared y pared ?

[@sergeihanush2262]

Hi. I was not born in USA. Came here 11 years ago and currently, I'm 38. I want to buy land and build an ICF house in New Hampshire. Why ICF? Because I want low thermal inertia and low energy consumption, and, as a last factor, I want the house to be like most of the houses in Eastern Europe)). I'm a skilled person in terms of working with different tools so would want to do majority of the job on the site myself. Wondering if someone here in the comments could recommend maybe online resource or any other way for me to have a step-by-step process of all inspections and what needs to be done after what, so I could follow? Thanks

[@Dsanrides]

This seems like so much extra work just to use I Joists. What’s wrong with 28’ doug fir? Added expense of the I Joists and fancy hangers themselves. Also, that roof is now a tinder box if there’s ever a fire. Please explain why is this beneficial?

[@AwesomeFramers]

28' USEABLE DougFir is extremely expensive, hard to find and poor quality for most of the US. Know why houses rarely burn? Modern codes. This entire house is wood, with electricity and people. Statisically (which we count on when we drive and fly) we don't have any reason to worry for this house.

[@manukashyapart645]

Are you need the carpenter or halper

[@mra95662]

what harness are you using? We are carpentewrs and the safety guy always gets harnesses that you have to wear your bags over, instead od the bags being built into the harness.

[@AwesomeFramers]

Super Anchor Deluxe 3D

[@ColinJennings-s6k]

Do you think these I-joist would be acceptable in an A-frame as the rafter. Seems it would be better than scabbing 2 pieces of your milled lumber together and eliminating the joint

[@AwesomeFramers]

I would imagine that would work. Design it and run it by an engineer. I would imagine that it could get tricky if you have a floor system for a 2nd floor or loft.

[@ColinJennings-s6k]

@@AwesomeFramers I could use the web stiffeners where the 2nd floor would tie into. Engineer. Who can afford that lol

[@AwesomeFramers]

@@ColinJennings-s6k an engineer is a small cost in the total cost of construction. Don't cheap out. Web stiffeners aren't enough for what I described.

[@michaelmiller1109]

Someone give him one of those digital angle finders all the wood workers use to set the angle of their table saws. I am guessing less than $40.

[@AtmRaw]

Can someone tell me what kind of pouch that is?

[@AwesomeFramers]

Badger and you can find a video about them on my channel here

[@MrBarratt88]

Why not use a Simpson VPA (Variable-Pitch Connector) instead of the cant strips.

[@AwesomeFramers]

They don't have the load capacity and are a more expensive option