Awful MCU Theories You Forgot About

[@gabrielhphd5133]

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[@andaelee]

i thank your parents for birthing such a soul, thanks brah

[@Deaduser-i9g]

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[@johnwayne7383]

I attribute the Mephisto hype/memeing, single handedly to Erik Voss from New Rockstars.

[@FancyNeon]

he just wouldn't fucking give up and kept doubling down

[@andaelee]

bro was persistant i'll give him that

[@thisguy1390]

He the best

[@GhostlyPhantome]

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[@Mr.Griffin824]

What about matpat

[@billbill6094]

They'll bring out Mephisto when it's REALLY time to make Spider-Man suffer.

[@andaelee]

dr strange is gonna have some competition in who can make his life worse

[@allanorme2093]

OHH GODD NOO NOOOOOOO

[@danielwanamaker2214]

Mephisto has been a running theory for a ton of movies and I’m surprised you didn’t mention that

[@andaelee]

i wanted to keep the video under an hour

[@bigboi4488]

I think the worst one to me was the superior iron man theory. People were gawking at the obvious woman with massive thighs and a feminine hour glass body in the multiverse of madness trailer and they were still insisting in their lives that it was Tom cruise

[@andaelee]

fuck i forgot to include this, yeah that was a wild time

[@alexdawson4571]

@@andaelee Right!? It's like people forgot they were going to see a Doctor Strange film, not an Avengers film.

[@Angel-Otk]

And Tobey Maguire Spider-Man dying in multiverse of madness🤣💀

[@Fall-oo6mt]

im still fucking sure i heard the iron man beam charge sound on that trailer

[@ShadowKamehameha32]

​@@Fall-oo6mtYou heard wrong.

[@alexgolden8036]

In Amazing Spider-Man 2’s defense, I still do not know what that black smudge was

[@jacoblbarton]

B I R D

[@andaelee]

it was obviously black cat, not the character but a black cat running across the building

[@samyprostar]

Probably some random dude caught in the shot lol

[@Mayo11-i5t]

or like everyone was saying that dr strange's hand was chopped off because people weren't able to see it in the leaked trailer

[@andaelee]

what hahaha i missed this one

[@BrickMania2]

i remember seeing a theory that wolverine was in Age of Ultron because of a scene where Hawkeye uses a clip holding multiple arrows that looks like claws

[@andaelee]

you didn't know? in the comics hawkeye eats hugh jackman and becomes wolverine

[@BrickMania2]

@@andaelee hm, never read that issue of Old Man Logan

[@marvthemartian001]

Yep I remember that 😂

[@jerklesirkfourthreezeronin5125]

the psychotic hype around wandavidion made me never want to watch a single marvel show again. It was insane and delusional.

[@andaelee]

waiting for daredevil born again to save us (loki was good too)

[@SDAWG-69]

@@andaeleewhat if was a good watch

[@tyrant682]

Multiverse of madness misinformation was the definition of AIDS 💀

[@loganwithlightsabers3051]

I think it was Den of Nerds KZbin channel that said Al Pacino was going to show up as Mephisto in Wandavision because Paul Bettany said he got to work with an actor he admired so they reached for Al Pacino looking back now Bettany was obviously trolling fans

[@adwa8471]

i feel like ryan gosling is judging me in the background UHM

[@andaelee]

he judges me all the time

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

still waiting for them to add nova and beta ray bill but at this point theyll probably ruin them

[@andaelee]

noo i refuse to believe this they MUST be good

[@sam_studios11]

3:31 but it’s not just a random lady, it is obviously Mephisto

[@LeoChaseTheMythMaster]

Yes!

[@andaelee]

fahh my bad homie

[@dylanvscomics8138]

The Ultron in Endgame theories were some of the most mind numbing. There were people making several videos just about this one theory and it was just sad.

[@andaelee]

was just wishful thinking (that they didn't waste ultron like that)

[@juliancar5700]

1:17 I also remember this MCU iceberg that had a ridiculous theory that " All Marvel movies and shows are in their own timelines".

[@ColdFuse96]

The two most ridiculous theories I saw during the Infinity War era was that Steve Rogers either had or was the Soul Stone because his eyes were slightly yellow when he was holding back Thanos, but the one that really baffled me was that Hawkeye was going to kill Thanos, take the Infinity Gauntlet, and be the MCU's next final boss. WAT!?!? HOW AND WHY????

[@andaelee]

the hawkeye theory seems very plausible

[@mechanwhal6590]

I nearly spit out my drink in sheer disbelief. How can ANYONE unironically expect that?

[@rowandunning6877]

that fucking THANOS acronym thing with the like Tesseract, H-?, Aether, Necklace, Orb, and Sceptre and people like "what's the H stand for?" that was so stupid

[@personalover249]

H for hurl your daughter off a cliff lmao

[@JustACactus616]

That Black Widow theory is proven wrong, but it’s a disgrace to compare it to the other theories

[@andaelee]

HAHA we gotta get some variety in here bro (high IQ and low IQ)

[@SpookyVoidPNG]

Not a MCU theory, but I remember people theorizing that the Jared Leto Joker from Suicide Squad was actually Jason Todd.

[@andaelee]

there's a DC version of this video planned for the future and this was always gonna be in it lol

[@Shalashaska-x5x]

That theory was really stupid and made no sense, the theory is that robin wasn't actually killed but was turned into the joker, even though we see jared leto talking to harleen before she is harley and the movie explicitly shows that harley was an accomplice in robins murder

[@sadderdaze391]

Wolverine believers watching this: 💥🪡👊😡👊🪡💥

[@andaelee]

i am in #wolverinedenial

[@allsome1o1]

The symbiote actually was in one version of the trailer when the guy was walking past Doc Ock’s arms

[@haygax5767]

Came here just to say this

[@andaelee]

i remember this but thank god they didn't ruin venom like that and decided to ruin venom later

[@lightyearpig12]

WandaVision was the beginning of the end for the MCU fandom. Once they realized that all their theories they just wasted eight weeks on essentially amounted to fanfiction and everything after Endgame wasn't going to be non-stop cameos and crossovers, they started throwing tantrums and dedicated their lives to ruining people's fun with superhero movies.

[@andaelee]

poorly timed with endgame as well which gave a lot of excuses to hop off the train

[@alexdawson4571]

It also doesn't help that Marvel was making whatever they could to meet the insane amount of pressure Disney put on them for their streaming platform. But to be fair, Marvel didn't help themselves micromanaging certain projects the way they did. cough Multiverse of Madness cough

[@bazookasniper5167]

Ralph. Bohner. Disneys $71,000,000,000 dick joke and middle finger to fans is what did it for me

[@Shayne10998]

I love how we’ve come back full circle with the infinity war/endgame wolverine theories since people think the portal in the trailer of deadpool is them joining the endgame fight

[@TheTrueMorse64]

I bet ScreenRant came up with the Thanos vs Wolverine theory, the Ultron returns theory, and the Natasha is pregnant theory! ScreenRant be coming up with the most outlandishly wild theories!!!

[@bellaclark4420]

There was another dumb theory that Yelena was replacing Natasha in Infinity War and at some point between this and Endgame they switched again. The “evidence” was that Natasha was wearing Yelena’s vest and she had blonde hair. And since in the comics Yelena had plastic surgery to look like Natasha, people thought that Black Widow movie was going to reveal this.

[@varietyspiderpage]

To be extremely fair for the tasm 2 venom theory, i do remember an alternate version of one of the trailers showing the venom symbiote alongside the vulture wings and doc ock arms

[@Aviator43]

7:45 no that's not Venom that's Mephisto

[@MeryoQuestion]

6:55 theres a deleted scene of amazing spiderman2, where that mysterious hat guy that talks with harry osborn and lizard in post credits of amazing spiderman1 and 2, in the deleted scene this hat guy walks in oscorp lab room that has dr octopus tentacles vulture wings and etc and in the deleted scene theres a venom/symbionte room too, because its a deleted scene so yes venom doesnt exist on amazing spiderman universe

[@BrendanPappas]

I can’t really blame people for hoping Wolverine would be in Infinity War. We were all so hyped over the Disney-Fox merger at the time that it was fun to hope for the best. Even if we all knew deep down that it was pointless to believe it.

[@talkingben3332]

To be fair A good majority of people thought Mephisto would be in WandaVision because of Erik Voss Heck it’s so well known that even Erik himself made jokes about it

[@PUNKISTCHUY]

The showrunner of Wandavision not even knowing who Mephisto is actually got me crying bro lmaoooo

[@SStudiosCO]

We blame Eric for the Mephisto incident

[@Cars2Enjoyer]

No because I can remember hearing about half of these from new rockstars😭

[@kaantok16]

I remember the same thing happening to me , when i saw venom swinging in the background i immediately fell for it

[@kaine8911]

There was this godawful theory that far from home took place in the soul stone, who tf thought that was actually true? I rember bullying the hell outta people who said that

[@alexdawson4571]

Oh, I remember that one and thinking it was stupid even back then. Like, it's a foregone conclusion Spidey would come back in Endgame and FFH would deal with the fallout from Peter's side of the Marvel Universe. Did anyone doubt that!?

[@EthanMuggers]

I remember when people went crazy because Google was saying that Hugh Jackman was in Avengers Endgame. Some people were losing their minds because that was when reports first started that Disney had bought Fox

[@andaelee]

JOIN THE 1K SUB CLUB, WE'RE ALMOST THERE. i need to replace pinned comment with something, last time it was about lego nightwing being someone's bisexual awakening

[@RangeReaper0406]

That was my first pinned comment I've ever gotten lol

[@pizzasoup]

Didnt sony have a deleted scene in the trailer for tasm2 where they show the symbiote in a glass case next to vultures wings

[@Riu97jb]

yup

[@helixsol7171]

God can you imagine if that Black Widow theory was somehow true, and had she not died in Endgame the fetus would've just respawned inside of her? So fucking weird, bro.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Welcome to comic books, it’s weird and confusing sometimes.

[@Frokken]

I remember in one of the Amazing Spiderman 2 trailers there was a black moving blob that the mystery man walks past. I don't know if it was really well made edit or an international trailer or what, but I do remember that vividly

[@HistorySkate]

I love Voss but his new theory that is driving me insane is that Deadpool is a fourth dimensional being similar to the watcher because of his fourth wall breaking.

[@blistow3519]

Oh yeah I’m not a fan of that theory. Although I kind of see his logic. I mean she hulks basically a god who’s probably strong than the watcher based on her god awful final episode. And if captain carter is in the same league as the watcher I guess anyone can be

[@thegreatscribbles960]

I blame the 2010s and meme culture a bit I think it was better when deadpool thought he Can break the 4th wall because he was insane instead of actually doing it

[@_D-man_D-Legend_]

Venom actually was in one of the trailers, the part where it had the room with Vulture's wings and Doc Ock's arms as it was cut out in the theatrical release with Rhino's suit taking its place. In the movie when Harry was going through the archives there was a file under 'Venom Storage 7-U' so I guess he was going to be in the movie but in the background.

[@thatguyfromA6915]

Mephisto is behind killing the main line spidey comics

[@claraatkin]

no ultron was literally in that movie it's called avengers age of ultron....

[@phlippy]

Nah I remember when Endgame was coming out, I kept hearing theories about Ultron based on some red lights in the hallway Hawkeye was running down- crazy times

[@proturbocharge338]

@@phlippyholy shit that was a looper theory I think. They had some crazy takes

[@andaelee]

oh yeah, that's the same movie mb me so silly

[@juliancar5700]

0:31 I remember this early prediction of Avengers Infinity War back in early 2017. That Peggy Carter , Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Antman, The Wasp, and even Lady Death( the one Thanos wanted to impress in the comics ). I can't remember what channel did that. But I kid you not that was something they said.

[@thesilentsociety3252]

The better theory a few believed was Nightmare was the one responsible for Wandavision and was originally planned to be until Derrickson & Marvel had creative issues regarding Doctor Strange 2. Thor’s death is also believable given how Russos said everything shown in the trailer was only from the film's beginning which also features Iron Man, Cap & Thor approaching Thanos which takes place at the final battle.

[@chiefcoiler]

The Mephisto thing really pissed me off. That was the one theory that was actually good.

[@Nathantoland]

I genuinely love how the internet deluded themselves into believing Mephisto would be in WV, and then had a meltdown when he wasn’t there 😂

[@Shalashaska-x5x]

I wouldn't say deluded, there was a lot of evidence and he was even involved in the comic arc the show was based off. Honestly he should have showed up its just the showrunner knew nothing about scarlet witch.

[@gunnaryoung]

Okay but those are clearly scars on Thanos' face. Wrinkles don't work that way.

[@KhalerJex]

People create wild expectations without reason. this expectation DESERVES to be failed.

[@kadegetslaid634]

Ok mephisto was actually a good theroy in wandavision

[@andaelee]

yeah it made the most sense and the fact that it didn't happen is wild

[@A_random_NPC]

*theory

[@kadegetslaid634]

@@A_random_NPC thanks terrible typing LOL

[@CA8IN8MU8IC]

i will die on the hill that mephisto made sense

[@Abominatrix650]

I remember this one theory, which I think made it into a CollegeHumor/Dorkly article on "Top Infinity War trailer theories!" or something It posits that the shot of Thanos punching Iron Man from the trailer was Pepper in the Iron Man suit, who had it on to protect Spider-Man and the punch that knocked her down caused her to miscarry the baby she was pregnant with. Yeah. (Was she even pregnant in Infinity War or did Morgan happen after Tony got back from space in Endgame? Whatever, it was a dumb theory and it's funny to think back on!)

[@MasterOfTheUniversebtw]

New rockstars are to blame for half these silly theories

[@Reylandson]

But when Mephisto shows up in Ironheart then what

[@andaelee]

then you must grab the nearest MCU fan and makeout with them

[@Reylandson]

@@andaelee fair.

[@stitch-bricks]

Surprised u didn’t mention the Ant Man Thanos Endgame theory

[@andaelee]

i didn't want to be the seven millionth person to talk about it, im not smart enough to come up with new jokes for it

[@stitch-bricks]

@@andaelee oh ok, that makes sense

[@Carmadillo-c6k]

It’s hilarious how WandaVision pooped on every single theory. The aerospace engineer, Mephisto, and RALPH BOHNER.

[@ArsonArhan101]

yeah but i remeber people saying the engineer was blue marvel

[@brambleheart]

I remember one for No Way Home being that Doctor Strange was an impostor because he agreed to do the spell. That’s it, that’s the evidence. Not like he has a history of doing reckless or unorthodox choices to protect those he cares about lololol

[@mrcritical6751]

People were convinced he was Strange Supreme from What If?

[@blizzrd152]

actually Venom was in TASM2, but his name was in a computer screen

[@Name-cp7oh]

I remember back before that Infinity War came out (yeah 6 years ago), some people thought that Thanos would be beaten in that movie and that "Avengers 4" would have Nebula be the main villain.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

1:25 It started because of the line in episode 2 "The Devil's In The Details" I believed that theory, until Episode 4 lol, By then it was quite clear that wasn't gonna happen

[@randomnerdythings9094]

The thought of Mephisto being in WandaVision or No Way Home actually made a lot of sense seeing as how the comics that both of those projects were based on had him heavily involved in them. Therefore this does not belong on this list

[@Cheeseitsproductions]

I cant remember where I saw these 2 theories or how popular they got. The first one was that Ultron was in infinity because Ebony Maw and Kull Obsidians ship had a similar colour scheme to Ultron. The second was that Black Widow in her movie was actually from Endgame and travelled back in time, because theres a glimpse of her holding the Red Room programming antidote in the trailer and it looked like the Pym particles

[@zacwhite4470]

People legitimately thinking Ned’s grandma is the same girl from Sam Raimis spiderman 2 is probably the most braindead marvel theory I’ve ever heard to this day.

[@LightKazuki]

Hell nah I saw that silhouette on the building first time you showed the clip lol, I just broke out laughing at that moment

[@EndureTyrant]

I still think the mephisto theory for Wanda vision made sense, one of the biggest supporting reasons was that Agatha is very connected to mephisto, so even her reveal as the big bad didn't really discredit mephisto. I didn't mind him not being in there, but I think it made sense.

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

I unironically believed Sigourney Weaver was Mephisto when Defenders was coming out. Because red hair mean demon 🤪

[@SuperBubbles24]

The mephisto theory was INCREDIBLY valid, the comics and subtle references all pointed to him being the cause of that dhow

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

Thankfully, I never knew any of this head-scratching theories since I *ALWAYS* erased them from my social accounts, just to avoid spoilers from Infinity War & Endgame.

[@arpitbhaskar3712]

There can be a whole documentary just about every time people thought Mephisto was behind the event in a Marvel movie

[@andaelee]

mephisto shot uncle ben

[@totallydramaticnerd2048]

I mean to be fair I was made fun of for like a year by so many people for saying I thought that Tobey and Andrew would show up in Tom’s spider-man 3 so I don’t think a lot of these theories are that crazy

[@Adey04]

To be fair to tasm 2, didn’t they actually have the symbiote in with the wings and the arms in the sinister six tease then cg it out in the movie.

[@AquariusArisen]

Actually tasm2 had Venom. In directors cut in the scene with octopus tentacles and vultures wings third item was alive black goo

[@dovehochman2302]

Credit where credit is due though it worked out for all the fans claiming daredevil would be in spiderman no way home

[@jemmellpyron2527]

I could have sworn they actually had the symbiote locked away along with the Sinister Six gear in a trailer, but maybe I was wrong.

[@ToliverKnoxThomasIV]

Actually (🤓☝️ moment), Mephisto WAS kinda planned in WandaVision. Señor Scratchy was gonna turn into a demon of some sort. And there were multiple things leading to him, so it wasn’t SUPER far fetched, but it got less likely and people wouldn’t let it down. ANDDD, Mephisto is most likely gonna be in IronHeart btw.

[@Shalashaska-x5x]

Why the hell are they giving ironheart her own series, I literally forgot she existed. Also why is mephisto gonna show up in the ironheart series of all places

[@TheShredder002]

Wasn't the areospace engineer a skrull? Like that was the whole point, she was an "aerospace engineer" because she was from space

[@thedarkv0id_256]

Who remember when people thought that wolverine did the mark on thanos face ?

[@medafan53]

To be fair with the TASM2 Venom theory, I believe we also saw what appeared to be the symbiote in trailer footage of the Oscorp vault, with Ock's tentacles, Vultrue's wings etc. It was remved from the film in the end but in that scene we did see this rippling black orb in that scene that seemed to be based on how the symbiote looked in Secret Wars.

[@Christopherstudiosrodriguez]

I remember before endgame there was a theory that they were going to introduce wolverine somehow. Because on his IMDb, or some thing he was listed to appear in the movie. N wong was gonna have like a big part in it.

[@josephgutierrez8768]

3:30 I actually watched the whole show a week ago in my photography class. I legit have no memory of her.

[@markanderson7236]

3:16 People thought Blue Marvel could've been the aerospace engineer, not any of that crap.

[@hectorarredondo6929]

When Spiderman Homecoming was filming I saw a theory that Steve Buccemi was casted as Uncle Ben. It was even on the IMDB

[@ytuser_3122]

Your reaction to the Black Widow baby death theory killed me, that theory is brain cell killer 😂😭

[@SuperSaiyen64]

Bro the most annoying and dumbest one imo was the infinity stones spell out Thanos and that's how the heros will find out about him. God those dumbasses drove me crazy 🤣🤣🤣

[@comixproviderftw_02]

That Thanos vs Wolverine theory. Look, it was 2018. After almost a decade of Marvel basically treating the X-Men like dirt and even tried to replace them with the Inhumans because Disney didn’t have the film rights to them since 20th Century Fox had the rights to the X-Men for so long, only for the studio to get bought out by Disney themselves and finally give the X-Men a chance at being in the MCU, and the hype that Infinity War generated at the time, could you blame them for thinking that Wolverine was gonna show up in Infinity War for some reason?

[@skrrskrr]

The Venom one is my favorite 'cause I actually remember that happening and having a great laugh.

[@CadesComics]

Great video man. I’d forgotten about half of these but they’re wild

[@JohnnyROCK65]

You’re calling some of these theories “awful” and the people who came up with them stupid, when in reality, it was the people who created the show who caused the theories. WandaVision had PLENTY of nods to Mephisto, and considering that’s how the story played out in the comics, I don’t think that’s necessarily an “awful” theory. And you said it yourself that the aerospace engineer had been mentioned multiple times and built up to be something important. Some of these aren’t the fans’ fault. It’s the people who are creating the material.

[@RunicRazili]

The character brought in as the aerospace engineer (Monica Rambeau) is the first female Captain Marvel in the comics actually, so the amount of emphasis that was put on her makes sense, especially when you consider that WV is kinda her MCU origin story. Her connection to the C. Marvel name is also why she’s heavily featured as a head lead in The Marvel’s for anyone who wasn’t aware.

[@Cheeseitsproductions]

Monica wasn't the Aerospace engineer, it was the person who gave Monica the truck to try and get back into the Hex which didn't work

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

The engenier wasn't Monica, And they didn't focus on it, they mentioned her twice It was a random lady

[@RunicRazili]

@@Cheeseitsproductions either way it was emphasizing a character introduction.

[@NickMichalak]

Dude, I SOOOO needed this laugh today! Hilarious madness with these nutty theories. We were all so insane with these back in the day.

[@theepoopydoodoo]

The funny thing is, the Symbiote does appear in the weirdo lab at the end of TASM 2

[@stevensteviepryde5888]

The Mephisto thing if it was legit it would have been a pretty stupid involvement, which is very in line with his significance so the theory would've held water to me.

[@SilasBlanks71912]

bro i remember the wandavision mephisto theories

[@eddyviews1427]

Ah yes, the Mephistopheles theory. I remember it with the channel New Rockstars that does theories and breakdowns for speculations and fun. It’s was around the time when we were hearing news about Disney made a business merge with 20th Century (because of course they did) who has the film rights with the X-Men and Fantastic Four characters. So yeah, I do see why there was hype but not realizing it was too early business wise.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Wandavision was MUCH after the announcement of the merger, it came out after the merger was completed The merger beggan before Endgame

[@ruggiebuggie3195]

Imagine if in No Way Home, they open the portal in the begining of the third act, and instead of another Spider-Man come out, it's just some aerospace engineer. Then they open the other portal and the audence gets their hopes back up, and out comes another aerospace engineer. 😂

[@marcosrangel2988]

Dude I remember that Thanos got scared by Wolverine theory like it was yesterday, that shit had me hyped asf for nothing, but hey it’ll be coming true in like 2?? 5?? 6?? Years?? I dunno

[@OrinOfAtlantis]

Thank you for bringing up the aerospace engineer theory 🤣🤣 That shit was wild lol

[@delycan4912]

Venom was cut from TASM 2

[@pianist150]

They never would've introduced Reed in a Disney plus show and I severely doubt they could cast him without anyone hearing about it. But I still think it should have been Fitz or Simmons from Agents of Shield. Easy to keep secret and cool if you're in the know but doesn't take over the show

[@porg-fv8vi]

I think that theory exist because theirs a old avegenrs cartoon where Steve rogers and Black widow did have a child together who with other young avengers went on to defeat ultron. Hopefully that helps you understand where that black widow is pregnant theory came from