AWOL in Canada: Man is convinced he made the right decision

In the last seven years, nearly 22,500 members of the United States military have gone AWOL or deserted, and every year the numbers rise. This is the story of one of those deserters

[@barlog20]

This war was a fraud anyway.And the recruiter lied to him.I remember hearing years ago that the recruiters be lying about the benefits you get also.

[@xtempta8618]

They will stretch the hell out of the truth lol

[@bubbagump1306]

Get things in writing.

[@yodawgwoof]

the female cpl trying to sound badass - she was a mechanic who never left the fob lmfao

[@lonewolfsim6837]

Lol

[@corymccollett1427]

Fobbits

[@kayp4601]

Mechanics have tough duty on deployment keeping all those vehicles mission ready.

[@micclay]

Deployment pregnancy

[@jamesstokes2311]

At least she went to Iraq

[@helium5912]

Cry about it more lady. "You knew what you signed up for"

[@shyguy9102]

The lady went to war

[@jonjones4972]

I remember right when I finished high school, two recruiters came and were telling me how smart I am and things they think I’d want to hear to make me join. Told them I’ll join after Bush’s kids join and they left and never came back🤷🏽‍♂️

[@KingSlat730]

damn right

[@SavannahRose]

how can you people put these men down for standing up for what they believe in?? that's horrible.. until you have been in this situation then you have no idea..pure and simple

[@Dba5675]

Yeah right!

[@recycled3654]

That's true. The Military thought the same way too.

[@adamhutto1660]

Individual thoughts of current events are invalid, you signed up to a collective to administer foreign policy. Guess what, I have been in that situation, I deployed because it was my duty.

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

Every time you actually hear the AWOLer’s side of the story (usually the first time you get the actual truth) it ALWAYS seems to be a result of the a function of the Military being deceptive in some way. Like this guy explained he was Recruited under COMPLETELY FALSE PRETENSE and essentially forced into doing exactly what he negotiated ahead of time to avoid. Additionally these stories of the Military itself being negligent in failing to train soldiers for whatever front line duty they are assigned to exist in THE MILLIONS. Why any human being would remain dog like loyal to any force that treats them with such dishonesty, negligence, and disdain....sounds like the OPPOSITE of honorability to me...and further the moral opposite of “the code” they claim to stand for. Such a shame

[@NovaScotiaNewfie]

Even if you're not combat arms, you can be deployed to a war zone. You're a solider first and have to realize that you may have to pick up a weapon.

[@nahhb]

He didn’t want combat yet he chose the army over, the coast guard, air force, and navy🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bryanbulmer6716]

and theres at least 16 other morons.

[@monkeycat48]

You can still get deployed to war zones in those branches, depending upon whatever job you get is what keeps you out of combat. This guy is a total idiot like coward with a bad rap sheet. He was a high school dropout who literally joined the army to make his life better then he decides become a deserter because he doesn’t want to go to combat. I mean he went into combat training. I don’t know how his score was on the ASVAB but either way it determines where you go. As far as I’m concerned, you don’t literally get drafted anymore. That doesn’t exist right it is very moment. We still have the selective service, but regardless the draft hasn’t even started except on those who had served who had been stop loss. My point is he’s a volunteer and people like him who volunteer and yet no matter what a job you get whether you like it or not it is what you are assigned to do until your service ends. I mean, what did he expect to join the army reserves and literally not expect to go to war? My dad actually served in the army reserves and National Guard but you know what there was a chance he could’ve gone to Vietnam no matter what he didn’t go, but still, he got lucky his brother in the other, and went over there. This guy would make any veteran disgusted by his decision.🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@rob20ist]

Simple the guy didn't want to fight nothing wrong with that and no one should be getting made at the guy. Yea know what happens to soldier's who blindly follow orders anyway just look at history.

[@raltine1]

why is this man called "the high school drop out" what has school got to do with his story? seems to me the guy asking him questions loves the army,

[@DandyZero]

It's extremely manipulative ugh

[@zplapplap]

His being uninformed, naive, and vulnerable to deception is certainly a part of his story. Moreover, people without a high school education are limited in the ways in which they can gain employment that can support themselves and build a career. Those are the circumstances that led him to the Army recruitment office. His status as a high school dropout is relevant context that enables us to better understand how he was situated when he made that fateful decision to join the Army.

[@charleswest6372]

Obviously brainwashed too.

[@bryanbulmer6716]

@@zplapplap damn straight. thats the smartest answer in the whole comment section.

[@sjvietboy408]

How is fighting overseas and killing innocent people in Iraq, a country that was not involved in 911 attacks, is helping this country become more free? I mean aren't we already "free" or do we still have to fight the entire world such as Iran, North Korea, China, ect. in or for us to be "free"?

[@TheMaxamillianArturo]

So basically she was a Fobbit that never had to be in direct combat.

[@Deathtofrogleghorn]

Instead of going AWOL, why didn’t he get chaptered out at basic or get a conscious objector status

[@zr71offroad20]

Because they do not want soliders learning about such options. THey in many cases want yo keep you are long as possible.

[@Deathtofrogleghorn]

I’m pretty sure he ran into a holdover that was being separated from the military at some point during basic or AIT and the army made no secret of it. It also takes them a while to send the holdovers to golf company too for out processing and they pretty much follow their platoons around not doing anything until they get sent to golf company. It’s no secret that someone can get separated.

[@manny4218]

They didn't want to kick people out lol I even had a SSG who said he passed his drug test at meps even though he thought there was no way in hell he was going to.

[@alliedbrandon1355]

Fort Jackson is horrible. Most of the people in charge there will lie to your face about the ability to chapter out. I was personally told by the Command Sergeant Major that if I tried to chapter out, she would arrest me. (Never happened, she was bluffing)

[@FUACLU]

This is most awkward to me. The girls is crying talking about guys not coming home and dying. The former soldier didn't want to die and never see his wife again so went AWOL so the girl things that he should go to prison for the rest of his life for what... not dying? It is more than clear that the girl had a tramatic experience there, so did I. But this is a voluntary military.

[@-SmoothCriminal-]

That lady thinks he should be thrown in prison for life over deserting? I know it a punishment that can be given but only if you desert while in combat. She’s got some messed up thinking if she thinks a person should be in prison for life for committing a non violent crime.

[@monkeycat48]

First off, you forget where she’s coming from. They were both volunteers. Meaning those who join now our volunteers there is no excuse to literally desert from the military. I’ll say this and something you probably never got told so I’m gonna say it to your face the job you get in the military is based on the ASVAB score you get at MEPs. To get through those they tell you when you’re going to basic training once you complete basic training then you’re in the military. This guy has no good excuse whatsoever and whatever punished when he gets depending upon how long he stays up in Canada is going to be much bigger if he returns. I’m not a jag officer. I never served in the military, but I am well aware of the fact that I gotta say he deserted because he was a coward and he didn’t like the role he was doing in the position he was in. Here’s the truth when he talks about my job is a 50 Cal gun operator that’s not a job that’s an assignment given. Which means anybody in his unit could be a 50 Cal gunner assigned any chance this guy gets shot someone will replace him. I’m not justifying that war is great. I am justifying the fact he probably never would’ve seen combat anyway. The reason I say that is because I’ve met a guy who’s there in 2008 2009. He told me he never even got to shoot any enemy combatant and he was infantry. This guy is trying to justify that he was lied to, but in fact, he probably didn’t get the score he wanted to get a job. He didn’t even specify what job he wanted to do. I got a friend who was a drone operator she literally didn’t even get to blow anybody up.

[@SlyGuyMorad]

It's a woman, what did you expect?

[@Lindayoung0215]

I have to say that as a veteran perspective. When you signed the contract,bring a lawyer with you. Make sure every thing you want is in written statement. So it will give you a better position in a negotative table. So when they sign you a wrong mission, bring your addtional term to the military court and talked to the power of attorney in the military, they will accept it peacefully without double.

[@outtahere321]

Do your research thoroughly before raising your right hand. Think long and hard about it.

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

That’s LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do if you are recruited under COMPLETELY FALSE PRETENSE like this guy was. Every experience I’ve ever had with military recruitment, and every story I’ve heard about recruitment has been focused in dishonesty in some way.

[@awesomeneiss]

I served and I am sympathetic for draft resistors.

[@micclay]

I know a guy that dodged vietnam. He was a ski instructor in Canada for 10 years. He's made a decent living as a guitar instructor and renting equipment he'd invested in.. He's in his 70s now and it all could have ended at 19 if he showed up at boot camp.

[@lonewolf77782]

He’s not a draft resistor, he’s a deserter.

[@Shrunkenhead61]

Well, see, I joined cause I wanted to be "the best of the best". I have to admit, for me, training was more on my mind and protecting united states. 9-11 pissed me off but I started seeing truths. I think he has some validity... especially libya. He also signed up on the pretense he wont be on the war front. The girl has to realize, though, this man's actions wouldn't have changed the outcome of those that died. She is almost blaming this guy for the death of someone else who choose to sign up.

[@danielwest2186]

When your duty is to kill innocents your not a deserter for refusing to kill them your a humane human being that will not have to use the false excuse to a judge or your children that you were just doing your duty, and following orders like that terribly naive little girl with a gun .

[@recycled3654]

It's even more absurd when the nation respects naive people like that. Her contempt for fellow humans who don't want to be military anymore, is disgusting in so many ways especially living in the civilian world. She's just an angry asshole with emotional problems projecting on others deemed lesser than herself.

[@youngsavagefury7138]

The world needs love not war anymore. The United States currently have a war against it own people right now.

[@tonysimmons5559]

Shut up a go back to cod Beta

[@W.Stryker]

I’ll bet you’ve never served in combat

[@Ongez]

Serving the united states is the same as serving satan and his interests

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

Listening to that girl calling Ryan a coward...and doing so with SUCH FALLACIOUS logic...it literally made me sick to my stomach. She should be ashamed of herself. Blind dog like loyalty to the notion of ones “claimed duty” is perhaps one of THE MOST immoral, destructive, and dangerous things that exists in any nation.

[@joekaplowitz2719]

Sure, I agree with you but its unlikely that a soldier and especially one who has seen combat would feel much sympathy for a deserter.

[@monkeycat48]

Greg Willett you’re a giant piece of crap. In the United States back in the day we did drafting that was wrong now we still have a draft sign up but we don’t draft people like you used to back in the Vietnam era. After reading your comment, I just literally felt sick to my stomach so badly that I wish good faith, you would say that to a veteran of any kind right now and see how they react to your comment. I’m not a veteran, but I have had friends and family who went over there to the sandlots. Some had combat roles some had other noncombat role but you know what. Here is thetruth and the only truth whatever job you get in the military branch that you get into is the job you’re assigned to you on your ASVAB score. I don’t know what nation you’re from but seriously dude you are an utter embarrassment. I hope you don’t have any children or any relatives in your family because you are ungrateful and selfish. Someone like you are the kind of people that irritate me so much. You remind me of those people during the Vietnam era spat in the faces of Vietnam war veterans when they came home. They never got a welcome home. They just got booed and called out as baby killers. People like you are just purely disgusting. You should be thankful whatever country you’re talking from whether it’s America or Canada I’m gonna say this you should be grateful for our warriors fighting for freedom. Heres another the truth. OK all the enemies we fight have no understanding of political correctness that doesn’t exist. The only thing they have in mind is destroy the other that’s it. There’s no talk about peace.

[@antonibertolacci7030]

Blood thirsty BIACH ! Imagine being married to it ! 🤢

[@LoudaroundLincoln]

​@@monkeycat48😂😂😂 you on your period or something? Hysterical idiot.

[@patriot9487]

He is a coward.

[@HansenSWE]

Now, Im from Sweden, so please bare with me for a second. And I appologize if anyone feels like Im intruding, with my oblivious ignorance concerning circumstances. But if the United States Army is voluntary, along with the possible fact(?) of the army recruiter telling him things that obviously was in direct conflict with the contract itself, whats the problem? The guy doesnt want to go.

[@enigmatic3066]

@@razascarmodu3093 he left before delpoyment he didnt go to iraq so how was his platoon risking their lives for him?

[@daviddriscollservantofJesus]

He is in no way a coward . He is fighting against the more powerful enemy the United States government. Soldiers think their brave because they slaughter innocent civilians with high tech weapons from far away. This man is challenging the most power government in the world for what he believe in and you have the nerve to call him a coward. You marines, soldiers, and seamen think you're so brave but you have no clue what true bravery is. It's easy to follow orders and take someone's life. You know what's hard? Fighting for what you believe in even when the whole world is against you. That's what bravery is. You soldiers just do what's politically correct and follow orders to fulfill your pride and ego. Come home being called a hero when you're a brainwashed fool who can;t think for him or her self and murder innocent people because "its your job." So before you call another man for fighting for what he believes in and not caring what the world says because in his heart he knows what's right and wrong. Killing people is easy you know what's hard. Loving your enemy as yourself and telling him the truth and trying to get him to know God even when it will bring harm to you. You know what's brave. Dying for the sin of the world even though you never sinned once. But not only dying being whipped until no flesh was left on his body. Shoving a crown of thorns deep in his skull. Being crucified for all the evil things people like you and i have done. Even though he was scared he did it because he truly loved us. Your definitions of love, and bravery, and cowardliness are not the real meaning of the words.

[@ivangarate7915]

Unworthy Servant of Jesus Christ stfu

[@Xtrakk]

I agree with the guy. He is not a coward. At least he attempted to do something for his country. The girl cries and cries. If u wanna serve ur country go ahead. If u dont then dont. Its not for everyone. Its like a new job u take and then realize its not for u and then u quit. Well thats what he did. Even though he is a drop out(bumm). Yes the recruiters lie and we all know that. Some people cant handle that type of work. U wont know if u like until u try it.

[@flyfisherman3649]

Gave their lives for what? As a former 0311 Marine I can't believe this Corporal would say this. Why were we even there?

[@jimj2683]

She was brainwashed and stupid.

[@AtomicPeacenik]

Hope everything turned out alright for this guy and his family.

[@Respectloyalty1]

4:35 Damn his wife was READY!..she is his biggest supporter..

[@Jimiboy2010]

Support the Troops Hate the War.

[@MyAb111]

It's easy for the woman to run her mouth knowing she'll never be put on the front lines.

[@tonygarcia745]

Currently yes they do manipulate and lie about alot. Mostly alot of sexual harrasment and fake egos and also sergeants that treated me like shit and handled my medical injuries like a joke 19D 1-104cav

[@bettya.k.abetty8259]

Good man

[@monkeycat48]

😒😒😒No, not a good man. More like a disrespectful selfish prick. Everything he just said was complete BS in fact, it’s not the jobs that literally you choose. It’s your score on the ASVAB. Everything he also points out I mean for God sakes he had the time to transfer he could’ve that may be written a letter demanding a transfer. To tell you the truth even around that time some of the guys I knew that went over there to Iraq and Afghanistan some of them didn’t even get to do you combat operations like you see on the media and they were combat infantry. If you’re going to see combat or if you ever wanna do see combat nowadays you’re better off in special forces. 🙄🙄🙄

[@topgeardel]

I am a Vietnam war/Draft resistor. I already have sympathy for guys like him. Nevertheless, you did sign up. You can't plead innocence to the possible prospect of warfare....whether the warfare is right or wrong It goes with the job description. If you go AWOL, then you went AWOL. But if you went AWOL/deserted in an actual battlefront....then I believe there should be consequences.

[@topgeardel]

@Kazuki Kamito That makes sense....but why join the military in the first place ? All it does is get into BS wars since WW2.

[@robertisham5279]

@@topgeardel What if the person in question was drafted and he deserted.

[@topgeardel]

@@robertisham5279 I have no problem with him, depending on the point of desertion. Why did he let himself be drafted n the first place? I registered for the Draft and had a plan on how I would avoid it...one way or another. But, for me, by the time you get to the battlefront...then your job is to save your ass and the guys next to you. Desertion time is over. Your options have changed. IMO

[@robertisham5279]

@@topgeardel What did most people in your day do in order to prevent themselves from being drafted?

[@topgeardel]

@@robertisham5279 Being in college was important. Being a Conscientious Objector like I was and filing to the Government was a way. Having a plan to go to Canada if needed. I lived across the Detroit River from Canada. Canada was great. So peaceful and sane. Easy choice. Some deluded souls would just get caught and do prison time. Prison time for not going to an undeclared, immoral war?

[@worldpeacearroyo8515]

That mechanic is judging someone who's job description was unofficially changed upon a deployment for a fallacy of a war. Mighty powerful of her to judge from a non-combat position...

[@AmeerCruz]

What exactly does he mean by “the first job of being a solider is a solider”? Does he means they must provided combat and Does this still apply today?

[@kayp4601]

Every soldiers first job is basic infantrymen. Your job is secondary.

[@robertisham5279]

These men did the right thing.

[@brethomuel786]

He couldn't finish high school, he couldn't finish his contract. He obviously didn't read his contract. He broke the law. There are consequences. Claims he's a refugee, absolutely ridiculous.

[@ssgbeowulf6350]

Yeah, during deployments you have to adapt to sudden changes where you must take on task you may or may not have been trained on.

[@Mastermindyoung14]

I am BY FAR the exception to the rule, but I went AWOL from the 82d Airborne twice. First for 29 days (to avoid DFR) I only went from e3-e4 when I came back. Reason being is I left because my commander denied my leave to go on leave himself. Took care of himself before his soldiers Then I went AWOL for an entire year. Reason being I had served 4 years and they tried to stoploss me, even though a division memorandum said I was to clear and ETS. I even had Army friends take leave to visit me. When I turned myself in, I fired my military lawyer, who wanted me to do 4 months in prison and a bad conducting discharge. I dealt directly with JAG. Again, e4-e3t when I came back. In fact, I was recruited by the chasers who brought soldiers to Quantico and Lejeune ...for going AWOL. Afterwards, I reenlisted, got promoted to Sergeant, deployed as an infantry squad leader and got a bunch of ARCOMs, a bronze star and 2 good conduct medals. The Fort Bragg JAG office says I'm a case study now.

[@AceOfHeart2012]

Good. That's a start. Could it be that killing is diametrically opposed to humanity?

[@lephilosopheinconnu3952]

You seem to be a smart man. Did not you get drafted back in the days? How about going to Saigon ? Just wondering

[@ssgbeowulf6350]

Every time we went on patrols (we did Patrols 2 or 3 times a day in rotation with only 2 or 3 to 4 hours if the window was there for rest) we, I became Selfless to whatever may or may not occur... it was a responsibility I agreed to uphold. I didn't run.

[@surrelljr]

I’ve been deployed, I have mixed feelings about this. Think I’ll go out and tend my garden.

[@kevinadamson5768]

Why join the army if you don't like fighting or aggro.??? Better off joined the police or firefighters.

[@jordanjones8120]

"I didn't want to participate in what I saw as an illegal war." Why the heck did you ever join? Do you really think the recruiters had ANY say on when and where you go?

[@DandyZero]

How was he supposed to know weather or not they did? They basically tell you they do. Would you fight for an army that lies to you?

[@recycled3654]

I joined to get out of a drug charge. The recruiters did lie and so did I. Very few join because they believed in America, that's pretty delusional.

[@yairsanchez9327]

Because he didn't want to die

[@recycled3654]

Or maybe killing women and kids didn't sit so well with him.

[@yairsanchez9327]

@@recycled3654 probably

[@treythehillbillyingram3307]

I hope that guy one the Corp that woman needs to know that we are people we make our own decision when workers and everything she said about the American not showing up with the mother holding the baby well guess what it's the second story I bet over there on the other country that we are fighting

[@Phan-Xu]

We need an update on this story

[@peternelson9941]

Solidarity is the weapon of the people. Make war against the wars of the bosses.

[@xchanxzenx]

Go to Mexico!

[@NovaScotiaNewfie]

I don't agree to my contract and am not gonna go and it's not right so I deserve for the Canadian government to give me the rights of legal immigrants or Canadian citizens...I've been here fighting and struggling...that maybe so but YOU DON"T DESERVE to get status in Canada.

[@saintcyr1990]

lol she is so lost. its like she is holding the dude responsible for the death of other soldiers. Wtf

[@JohnnyRebKy]

Well he did tell the truth about recruiters. Everything they say is bullshit. I was told I had military police MOS and it was set in stone. The day before I leave for boot camp he calls and says sorry dude it's infantry now. ONE day before I leave! I was so pissed off I didn't even want to go any more. But i felt i had no choice so I went. But all this MOS stuff with recruiter was all total BULLSHIT the entire time. He lied just to get me on paper

[@unoitall]

She suffers from the combination of anger and helplessness, but it is easier for her to release this anger upon this young man instead of the N.W.O. puppets, who created the trauma.

[@Respectloyalty1]

you might rate some GI BILL options..have you looked into that?

[@ashleyshiba8380]

Once you left US soil are you still an American resident until the Military gives you a discharge? The reason I ask, my father also went AWOL back in the 30's and went to Canada and I found he given a dishonorable discharge until 10 years after. I am curious if he was considered a resident of the United States in all the years he was in Canada until the discharge.

[@alaskadave1795]

Yes, still American unless he formally renounced his citizenship and it was accepted. All that is moot though as the UCMJ applies to all soldiers regardless of citizenship.

[@lostindiancamp]

He should have joined the Navy. No one other than the Seals ever sees combat.

[@jrwilliams4592]

Except for swcc and EOD

[@guccithunder6136]

What did end up happening with this story?

[@jeffreyiaia1776]

he is lying. he stated he didnt want to be on the front lines. Said nothing about an illegal war. He is a deserter and should be sent back.

[@dvngerk]

There's no way you should be able to go to heaven and still be in the military, being sent over to a country to risk your life. Your basically making a choice that you accept dying and you'll let it happen if it does that's self mutilation at it's highest degree. I love the U.S.A, but is my life that salvageable, where if I do something beyond my morals, desires, it's alright because it's for something I believe in. Fuck no. Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, what ever happened to that.

[@trevormurphy7041]

Knowing what we know now about the Iraq war I think this guy did the right thing it was his choice not the army and that mechanic shouldn’t say anything she didn’t want to be there either nobody wants to go to war

[@recycled3654]

I'm betting that mechanic is claiming disability for being a combat veteran too. I think she's just polishing brass to keep that disability check coming. F those people.

[@robertkolleck1508]

I am a veteran of dusty areas, whatever your opinion of this guy I am 100% positive you will find the Code of Conduct posted at all military entrance and examination stations, Article 1 I am an American fighting person .....and am prepared to give my life. Nobody wants to lose their life needlessly but they are more than just words.

[@vpbubbies]

there are many Canadians, (Like myself) who want to go to Iraq and do their part. Yet our government doesnt wish us to go there. I'd be more then willing to go in the US army for training, then to Iraq under the name of an American who wishes to reside in canada for the duration of "my/his tour" Once "my/His" tour is over, he can then go back to the usa and me back to Canada, nobody would be the wiser. Thjere are many who would do the same here in Canada. Any takers????? thoughts????

[@nemesisman2867]

I wanna join the army, but I don't want to do anything violent or see combat, I just want to play soldier and drink mountain dew and sleep.. Recruiting: No problem sign here..! Dumbass

[@scottwalker6897]

why did he sign up in the first place?

[@NovaScotiaNewfie]

@Xtrakk My problem with the guy is he think he's owed something by Canada that's what irks me. He's not fleeing a country where his life is in danger or there is civil war he thinks because he shouldn't go to jail that's a valid reason for my country to feel sorry for him. This isn't nam he was forced to sign up So our court system shouldn't have to deal with this issue.

[@MidwestCombatServicesLLC]

YOU SAID IT BEST, SIR!

[@Night_Monkey]

Liar. You aren't allowed to bring anything home that is blood stained. You can't get past the customs detail in Kuwait with it.

[@foxmacnamara8809]

He should have never enlisted. I feel like it's a 50/50 deal here. 50 percent his fault and 50 percent the Army's fault. The Army should have recognized him as a problem and cut him loose with a general discharge way before he felt the need to go AWOL and just been rid of him. All of the resources wasted and paperwork filed for this guy, just clogging up the system. It's a good thing he didn't deploy, he probably would have wound up getting himself or worse yet someone else killed.

[@voluntarism335]

stfu victim blamer, he can withdraw his consent whenever he wants

[@ELISRAELRUIZ]

They give you your entire contract in writing. If you don’t read it that’s your problem.

[@SLEEPy2k16]

deserters are heros!

[@noahsawyer7155]

SLEEPy2k16 no their not. Their coward who deserve to be shot

[@noahsawyer767]

DandyBubbles oh I understand the value of life and frankly I don’t give a rat ass. He volunteered and made an oath then ran away when his feelings got hurt. Oh and by the way his platoon called him a coward and a little bitch.

[@miaouew]

This is the guy who directed the new Star Wars movie right?

[@meinkapu9899]

War is no picnic...never has been...never will be.

[@SpidermansSymbiote]

Didn't want to go to war? Don't join the army!

[@dfsafadsDW]

why the hell do people sign up if they dont wont to go to war?

[@MrJbuddrow]

Nothing they can do for me appearently it was preexisting which makes sense about why it took me so long to get pull ups in the first place. But no biggie I'm collecting as a dependent on my step dads gi bill. Scout sniper in nam. Talk about ptsd...holy shit.

[@beanerwiener100]

i'm in the navy and i know this has worked for some people but not all. wondering if it'd work for the army too. we had people go ua straight after boot camp for 29 days (30 is the point where it goes into awol status) do a bunch of drugs and return to get discharged with a failure to adapt.

[@Pete3Heat]

I'm so glad I got an entry level seperation (ELS) before I shipped off to Basics.

[@arkybaldknobber8062]

Pete...you wet your bed?

[@DandyZero]

@@arkybaldknobber8062 What's that supposed to mean, guy?

[@recycled3654]

Actually I did too, the Navy told me I'd never be able to enlist again if I refuse now. I did enlist 3 years later in the USMC (as the only branch desperate enough to take me), I escaped a 3-5 yr drug charge and was later acquitted by my State for "serving my country", I knew at that point I did not have to be in the Corp any longer (AWOL) and got a General under Honorable discharge on a medical after 3 years in the infantry. I indeed was bitter and resentful against my state , but I never hated the military because they did get me out of a jam that was near impossible.

[@leonbrown3095]

If you don’t want to fight in the war don’t join the army simple as that

[@Shrunkenhead61]

@duneranger I wouldn't generalize all who go AWOL. It is true though you kind of should expect going especially during a time of war, you get a ribbon for doing so. Some that go AWOL their principle and morality of what's going on really starts hitting them. For me, I was affected by 9-11 but seeing hailburton and blackwater (Cheney's the CEO) going in there. A lot of the mess, I can't help but have some sympathy. These wars are creating enemies. I want to protect not entice.

[@recycled3654]

I see. I bet seeing private industry operating like that does give another perspective on why you're really there. In my division, AWOL is just a crazy weekend or a wild hair up your ass. Everybody is a potential deserter for whatever reason and really is never looked down upon so much but is seen as an exit, much like an officer who resigns his commission.

[@Vydio]

@sprylama P lease leave, and take her with you. I'm sure the medical care will be superior elsewhere. Try Canada.

[@chokeonyourfoodstampcardan3406]

I went awol at neverland

[@lephilosopheinconnu3952]

lol! MJ you are Great!!

[@rudyhernandez7996]

Canada can have you

[@khengkhan343]

This girl is more of man than Ryan

[@LoudaroundLincoln]

Nah. She's just a brainwashed idiot who can't take it when people use their own minds to make sensible decisions.

[@cooldood1025]

Hey, pukes, don't you know what responsibility is? There is no good reason for desertion, period. If he truly was a "moral objector" to the war, he would behaved responsibly and gone through his chain of command to seek CO status. Instead, he ran - and in his case he deserted with intent to avoid deployment which, under UCMJ may carry a maximum penalty of death (although unlikely.) He is still liable for arrest in Canada, but not for the death penalty, under the current extradition agreement.

[@recycled3654]

Who cares. Death penalty in a voluntary military ? AWOL and desertion are only words, meaning you don't want to be in anymore. Leave and live your life.

[@thepantherchannel2988]

There is always a good reason. Self Preservation. People's lives are much more important than somebody's shit wars.

[@Respectloyalty1]

You must think I hate the corps because they made me field day on thursday...LMAO

[@recycled3654]

What about on payday Fridays ? Field day the barracks twice for nothing always rates promises of fragging first chance you get. Or threatening a chow hall server with death because he didn't give a larger portion of potatoes. Or having to steal a 782 footlocker from another company because somebody stole yours. Or running from Old West style, glass breaking bar-room fights before the MPs show up busting heads and arresting everybody at the E-Club. Fuck the Corps. Ugh.

[@XxxX-wx3er]

Hard times make great men, easy times make weak men. 74th anniversary of D-Day (1944). RIP brave soldiers.

[@bryanbulmer6716]

and brain dead followers

[@jagadeeshkumar516]

Damn 16 years ago

[@beercamp2004]

you sign up, you suck it up.

[@NovaScotiaNewfie]

Sad part is if they are allowed to stay here, members of the Canadian Forces protect them and DEPLOY when they get orders to do so. I wonder what they think when they walk past a Canadian Solider, Airman/woman or Sailor? Guess what non combat troops go war serve along side combat arm troops and in some cases are wounded or killed....No job in theater is easy. Glad to see that most members are grown up enough to realize they can go to war and DEPLOY!

[@Respectloyalty1]

oh shit! lmao that's not his wife

[@lephilosopheinconnu3952]

Throw flowers not bombs

[@candipill]

conscience is a GOOD thing!!! But what would you know about that?

[@globalchaos1984]

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!

[@enmaxlineman]

I think you should maybe move to United States and live your dream

[@chromebook5949]

Don’t turn and run

[@jamess4869]

just don't come back I don't care

[@AK-hi7mg]

Man could have been a hero. A freakin 50 cal gunner on a humvee? That's as cool as you can get if you survive that. I'm a huge POG in the german military and I'm bored to death with my base maintenance post. Plot twist : im also a Canadian by birth and I hope this guy doesn't get PR status.

[@baldarmstrong6532]

Shoulda Gone Officer

[@joeydepalmer4457]

this is 17 years ago and I am an ex Canadian soldier, I agree with the female. What he did ws 100% wrong. And that war was NOT an illegal war like Vietnam was. It was a war against terrorists.

[@alansparks8199]

When a man gives his word he should follow through and honor his word. He let his fellow soldiers down and turned his back on them when he new they were going into a fight. What did he think the military is about? It is not a social services organization.

[@recycled3654]

Why give your word to somebody that is not going to keep theirs ? Why would you keep your end when they lied to you ? That's a fraudulent contract, nobody has to do anything if they don't want to, and the military knows that. Recruiters lie like a MoFo, fact.

[@RussianSpy4146]

Bi why are you crying?!