AX-50 vs HDR in Warzone | What is the Best Sniper for Battle Royale?

[@hoodiewaffles]

Ax50 = better for close engagements from up to 150m HDR = better for long range engagements especially with HDR pro barrel which allows the HDR to have no bullet drop up to 350m

[@methheadredneck6715]

Hoodiewaffles thx

[@AgentZero-00]

Ax 50 is a QS weapon anyways

[@Ziiphyr]

Armageddon in my opinion the HDR is great a quick scoping too. It gets less hit markers from what I noticed.

[@AgentZero-00]

@@Ziiphyr I just did better on the ax50 than the her but it's good too and I respect your opinion 100 percent

[@Edwin6264.]

@@AgentZero-00 But ax50 and hdr has the same ads...

[@AJEETKUMAR-om5rf]

Me has no sniper Sees literally 100 enemies on ground Me has the sniper Why is no one here??

[@am5era56]

THAT HAPPENS TO ME

[@Pisoix]

All the time

[@maicondicasetutoriais387]

Me without a sniper Literally 11 people i could snipe easily Me with a sniper Those fucking people start acting like monkeys jumping around

[@AhmadM25]

ax deadshot gaming So fucking true

[@Venom-hr7of]

Fr

[@TaborHill]

Excellent informative guide. I'm still team AX50. ...Mostly because I don't have jack squat in attachments with the HDR. Default scope, AX50. Thermal, HDR.

[@_zl19]

@Tabor Hill same

[@mboomer88]

Tabor!!! Crazy to see you commenting on another COD KZbinr's channel! I'm with you on the ax-50.

[@tonymontana3873]

I like ax50 aim sight better

[@poohweezyify]

2 days with the hdr will change your mind, no attachments needed I swear

[@furiousphoenix7526]

Get attachments because it’ll make a difference

[@TheRealMrGreen]

My take on this: The devs have done an excellent job balancing these out!

[@slayridah]

Yeah these two are balanced in relativity to each other, but the rest of the weapon balance is terrible for the most part. Theres like 8 guns that are well balanced against each other while the rest are trash, only because these guns weren't designed with warzone in mind. They need to have some weapons have different values in warzone to make them viable. Hopefully they'll buff some trash guns for warzone only.

[@scarecrow0774]

@@slayridah I mean yeah that's true there are OP weapons in the game. MP5, M4A1, 725... however with the way they designed this game, those should be the most powerful guns in the game. Theres a reason the germans declared shotguns to be against the geniva convention, theres a reason behind the M4 being the main issued weapon of the US military, and theres a reason the MP5 is used by most top tier security personal in the world. And I do understand its just a game so they could have toned them down a bit.. but then it wouldnt really make sense when actually looking at those guns tbh. Plus this is one of the only COD games were shotguns actually behave like shotguns, and even tho I personally dont use shotguns ever in game it's good to finally see a game were a shotgun can actually kill someone from 20 feet away like you could in real life. Plus outside of those OP guns most of the guns are actually very balanced. P90, Mp7, bizen, mk2, kar98 k, EBR, scar, ak47, kilo. There are tons of great guns in the game and almost every gun in this game feel good to use honestly. But of course you loose to an M4. Just like you would normally in real life going up against a trained marine with an M4.

[@scarecrow0774]

@@slayridah and for warzone, alot of the less used guns are actually very good to use in warzone. I find myself using the M13 alot more than I do in normal multiplayer because it has literally 0 kick to it, the origin shotgun can have an argument for being better than the 725 in warzone due to magazine size and how quickly it shoots, and honestly the MP7 is better than the MP5 in warzone to me personally due to ammo capacity and very little kick. Also the AUG is pretty good too if you have 5.56 ammunition in it. But of course these are all opinions and I'm sure you dont agree with all them

[@tortol4847]

For these 2 guns... Maybe. Battlefield dominates (or used to, until they whiffed with bfv) the sandbox shooter category because their game is balanced for it. Full autos have limited range because of accuracy and recoil limitations. Warzone, and MW specifically, have no such limitations. Autos are absurdly accurate even at extremely long range. A mounted AR can send a continuous stream of bullets with ridiculous accuracy out to very long ranges. Try and snipe on battlefield with an AR. It wont work. If COD is going to shift into the sandbox genre to compete with BF, they need to balance the game accordingly. Automatics need a MASSIVE range and accuracy nerf. Put in some realistic bullet velocity and some actual recoil, not this purely visual BS that they call recoil. A good sniper on MW/Warzone would get laughed out of the lobby on a battlefield game if they tried sniping.

[@FossilBite]

Jus wishing they would make a one tap sniper or make ax50 two shot or something I’m hitting like 6 hitmarkers then they run away

[@GR1MRACER]

* sad dragunov noises *

[@notnoodle1918]

That shit op for people who can click heads

[@topcodclips607]

Dragunov is trash

[@Delimasa]

@@notnoodle1918 people who can click heads one shot with a hdr and ax50

[@notnoodle1918]

@@topcodclips607 looks like someone can't click heads

[@CZProductions]

I get so many hit markers with headshots with the dragunov. It's a terrible feeling when you get a good shot but then don't get the kill because it wasn't an HDR or AX50

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

Pfft, real men use the *crossbow* for sniping

[@brandonmartinez1182]

*revolver sniper scope

[@dillonc7955]

* slug 725 with a scope

[@itsjustme5097]

Honestly it might not be a bad idea because I believe it's a one shot with the thermite

[@NOOBTUBER403]

OFF JACK you don’t die instantly, the explosive rounds is one shot

[@arkslippyjunior7773]

Real men snipe with m4 socom

[@cooliusmaximus5802]

"500m headshot is ridiculous" Not when you played Recon in BF3 and BF4

[@rensjuh69]

at 500 its just getting started xD

[@jordancameron4441]

Right. Golmud 1500+ all day

[@sageen]

Lol arma 3 1800+

[@cooliusmaximus5802]

@Justin Y. 2.0 players these days are always camping vehicles. 2020 and they're still worrying about K/D when they hit max rank 10 years ago.

[@cash7669]

Battlefield had 40x scopes though, this game only has 12x max :(

[@tylerdickinson705]

HDR all day the AX-50 does an amazing job in multiplayer with the quick ADS but when you’re pickin targets off at 500 m you need the bullet velocity that the HDR brings to the table

[@humanoidweapon6260]

Tyler Dickinson what table?

[@orestisgeorgatos6725]

@@humanoidweapon6260 that one over there

[@jasona496]

@@coreymardrus2460 0 unless they are very, very far.

[@crutchio6571]

Broseph Stalin the HDR is just superior for long range sniping

[@doctordeath2551]

Ax just have to be more spot on with your shots The hdr basically no bullet drop

[@dillonc7955]

Anyone annoyed with snipers, just run cold blooded and a 3x scope and you're basically invisible to most of them. So many people spot snipers due to scope glint as well as your signature on their thermal scope.

[@BleedingUranium]

Yep, Cold-Blooded is a fantastic perk.

[@robertglenn3643]

That is why I don’t run thermal sights for my sniper. Can be very useful but someone running cold blooded can screw you pretty easily.

[@itsmeadamg]

@@robertglenn3643 that and windows not letting you see through them lol

[@ShowTheOreo]

Hah that's not gonna work. I can still spot the gray people running cold blooded pretty easily in my thermal scope. As long as there's movement, they're easy to spot

[@moparmadness0180]

I use the merc thermal optic. No scope glint.

[@xBOBOxFebreez]

I wish you would have compared the ADS speeds with attachments that speed it up. Also I’m curious about movement speed and flinch

[@hoodiewaffles]

HDR cant have stippled grip tape so ax50 is better with all ads attachments

[@novkorova2774]

AX 50 is the quickscope sniper we all know that

[@Agent_OB]

I don’t know why he wouldn’t that’s literally the most important thing

[@novkorova2774]

@@Agent_OB It is not lol, by any means, the viability of a meme like quickscoping is not even comparable to range, damage, rate of fire or headshots.

[@yuyuyu25]

@@hoodiewaffles No short barrel either.

[@mrmidnight32]

I don’t care, the AX-50 looks better and I’m going to use it lol

[@ibk7520]

CK_32 u mean HDR Looks better??

[@mrmidnight32]

Yoo abdiie no, I like the look of the AX-50 100x better than the ugly ass HDR.

[@Holmtown]

CK_32 haha thats my take on it too. AX50 have a better design, so if i die, i die with style😁🦦

[@ozccc]

Bendik Holm Absolutly, the ugly HDR is for bots who cant lead...

[@traeking5213]

The AX-50 looks way better than ugly HDR

[@mcarcel53]

Calls a 500m shot crazy. *laughs in Battlefield 1000+ M *

[@MegaDAli95]

Conspiracy... The HDR got a secret buff that was left out of the patch notes

[@nerdking3308]

And what is the buff ?

[@MegaDAli95]

@@nerdking3308 How am I supposed to know? It's a secret lol

[@Gl8Dy]

How do you know that if it is a secret?

[@MegaDAli95]

GlaDyOfficial I don’t know, hence why I said conspiracy. You get me? 😂

[@masterwhopper414]

Not really, the HDR has always been the superior long range rifle since launch. Anybody's who played Ground War knows

[@pauljerome01]

The precision that AX has with the default scope is my preference

[@maxg3342]

Honestly I’ve already maxed the ax50 so I’m not wasting my time leveling up another sniper

[@miamimo]

Is it just me but I don’t really like how the thermal scopes are in mw

[@tomdenhartog2000]

Yeah i think the same, infra red would have been better in my opinion.

[@ares1469]

Idk I like them. Why do you not?

[@tortol4847]

Thermals in MW need a huge nerf. Way too much visibility with them and cold blooded is useless against them.

[@tomialex525]

@@tortol4847 how is it useless? you can t see shit if ur enemy has cold b

[@tortol4847]

@@tomialex525 All cold blooded does is change you from solid white to pitch black. You stick out either way.

[@JBDeJulio]

Bro, this was one of the best KZbin comparison videos I’ve ever watched. Great job.

[@bruh-uy3vn]

if you look closely the HDR actually has less of a fish-eye lens than with the AX-50 with the default scope. I know its a small detail, but when scoped in and looking around, it does make a difference.

[@TH3RAND0MGUY]

Doesn't matter when you have a decent reticle unlocked on both or already did

[@nobleradical2158]

I still like the clearer sight picture of the AX-50 although that might just be because I’m not used to snipers in COD

[@nekonesto3125]

Noble Radical i wouldnt even need a reticle i know where the middle is i still hit shots evem when a emp hits me

[@skubaRu7]

Love watching people run terrified after I headshot their teammate lol they don’t even risk the revive

[@trentonyoakum1627]

Who could blame the poor traumatized bastards... Me included

[@trentonyoakum1627]

@Sandro i use smokes to risk the revive sometimes. But if the sniper has thermal im still fucked. I run double time or quick fix over cold blooded. For my medic setup i might think about changing that if thermal scopes end up being a problem tho

[@thewalnutbucket]

Literally me. Who cares if they see my scope glint? Dual zoom thermal with at 12x zoom and one shot they're dead anyways

[@bravskeen]

It's a suicidal mission

[@robkane8870]

Not much to revive unless they want to keep his head alive. I think the makers should play a joke and give the option to behead people with a knife and throw the head at their team 😂 "How about another joke, Murray?".... what do you get when... 🤭

[@DrSkrillz]

Would love an episode on the marksman rifles for war zone, specifically the EBR-14 as I believe you said in an episode you couldn’t find range that it wasn’t a 3 shot kill

[@federicoascencio9560]

Yeah, thats true it was in his M14 review, I wanna know if that works the same in Warzone

[@jamesmoore228]

I've been someone who has been preaching about how the EBR is underrated for a while and its my favorite gun to use in multiplayer. I think its absolute garbage in warzone though.

[@leeseoul5735]

The EBR 14 is a 5 shot kill to the body in warzone, you can test this on the bots in a custom game by putting them up to 250 health (aka 100 plus 3 armor plates). But the headshot multiplier is pretty nasty allowing you to drop full health players in just 2 headshots.

[@Chevalier_knight]

It isn't a 5 hit kill u don't know what you did but it was wrong it removed armour in 2 guys to the chest and then two hits the chest for a down , it's been a two hit to the chest in mp since release.

[@RFossum]

The stats say hdr. But in my hands, the ax-50 all day! So much smoother sniper

[@nzarch9741]

Wow what a hero

[@pedroapinto06]

I prefer the ax-50's dual zoom scope than HDR's

[@dyzzmo9617]

Just run overkill with both of them ;)

[@br3nn3n]

Dyzzmo ugly

[@CardiacYew-xt5zq]

That would be a pain

[@ogtoofless3604]

@Neurolicious i run overkill then get a ghost later. Ghost only -really- becomes effective late game

[@justforviews3802]

That's just overkill lmao

[@MegaDAli95]

@Neurolicious overkill is definitely not useless

[@diegodeluna9046]

i find my self hitting myself hitting my shots way more with the HDR than the AX-50. But i find myself sniping 200+ meters and bullet is very minimal with the HDR. AX-50 has a noticeable bullet drop right before 200 meters so which is why i prefer the HDR. But the AX-50 scope smacks 😌

[@freerider3434]

Well, sounds like you found yourself.

[@SupermanOG]

“So let’s just hop right into it” When do you ever not hop right into it 😂😂😂😂

[@certifiedspeed5361]

I was using the ax 50. Seems like it does more damage most of the time. Going to switch to HDr

[@robertglenn3643]

I think the AX-50 is better. Sure, the HDR is better for extreme range sniping due to its higher bullet velocity, but most fights aren’t going to take at that range. The AX-50 is just more practical for most fights you’ll get in. If you’re gonna play as a true sniper, take the HDR, if you’re gonna run and gun, take the AX-50. It can also take a lot more attachments than the HDR and can be kitted to make up for some of its weaknesses.

[@stefans5015]

Robert Glenn thanks!

[@kiirchh]

Yeah based on his ax50 gameplay it just looks better for most situations especially end circles where you do have 500m targets anymore.

[@bbakir4]

I absolutely agree with you and also I'm very sure that the HDR bullet velocity will get nerfed at some point when everyone absolutey starts abusing the HDR for easier sniping and the community starts complaining about it, so you might as well just stick to the AX50 now and get used to its bullet drop and you'll be ready after that nerf :D

[@thebungler532]

Bakir Anwar Nassar It’s not gonna be nerfed. The hdr isn’t op.

[@armanesteghamat589]

In regs sure, but in war zone any range where the ax is better than the hdr you’re just gonna use an ar instead.

[@russellmorgan3200]

Consider the other attachments when using the snipers: The AX-50 can use stippled grip, but the HDR cannot.

[@hanimunir5249]

Braxton Conley well the ax 50 has a stock that increases ads too bruh

[@gattsu2604]

@Braxton Conley if your holding your breath long enough that it runs out and you need the champion stock your doing something wrong

[@emwols]

Braxton Conley it takes 7 shots at its max damage range. Does 41 damage per shot, 250/41=6.1ish, which means ya need 7. I used so I’m rounds for a little bit too and loved how fast it killed, especially with stopping power. However if you miss at all, you’re often screwed

[@emwols]

Braxton Conley aug 5.56 is pretty dirty. But personally I just use the standard M4 because not missing shots is really important, and my accuracy with that weapon is pretty solid. As is everyone’s I’m sure. Just won my first solo game today with M4 and HDR

[@Changelllelle]

I'm in the custom loadout while watching this video. Kept switching between the snipers

[@mikahoolwerff3563]

i use the hdr because when i wanted to start using a sniper in my kit my hdr was lvl 11 and my ax was lvl 3. and i wanted a silencer soooo.

[@rossdaboss8501]

HDR is an amazing gun but in warzone it just feels so slow that's why I use the AX-50 but it odd how similar they are.

[@ThatBaggedWK2]

I was thinking the Kar is pretty solid but then I forgot it’s a “marksman” rifle.

[@jamesadkinsiii7925]

Robert Kar is my favorite too. I absolutely destroy full teams with it because I run a monolithic suppressor and a 4.0x hybrid so they have no clue where I’m shooting from lol but out of 100 headshots I have had like 5 people not die. Has this happened to you? Lol

[@jamesadkinsiii7925]

Robert good idea! But yeah, just yesterday I was about 40 meters from a guy so pretty close, and I shot him right in the face and he didn’t die and he killed me lol I have a video of it too lol

[@EZW_Riptide]

James Adkins III maybe you missed the head

[@jamesadkinsiii7925]

Riptide I would be more than happy to send you this video and show you lol like I almost can’t believe it myself that it didn’t kill him. I had to watch it several times to make sure I shot him in the head and I did lol

[@jamesadkinsiii7925]

Brett Runyon yeah it had to be lol

[@j.fordsr.777]

Real men uses the RPG as a sniper rifle

[@DiegoSantos32790]

HELL YEA ! 😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ricko7950]

Real pussies use RPGs

[@zoppity6135]

Ricko i agree

[@adamali1165]

Ricko RPG’s are the better side of the balance between camping and vehicles or RPG’s

[@simonbeattie5207]

You spelled arseholes wrong

[@demainb1371]

Honestly I prefer the AX-50 over the HDR because it feels smoother, and you can add more attachments to it that help reduce the ADS time. It’s overall the better sniper at closer ranges, and with the longest barrel, you shouldn’t really have to worry about bullet drop until 200m-250m (I’m not sure about these stats, I’ve never actually tested it). And once you go past around 250m, you don’t actually HAVE to fight people (unless if you’re going for high kill games of course), as unless they have a sniper themselves, you don’t have to worry about them killing you. If you’re like me, who usually goes for wins, then I would say use the AX-50. If you want to frag out, I would recommend the HDR.

[@nkpgbmx]

Gold first on HDR, but use AX50 for more "cqb" in Warzone and no IR-scope. For longer and IR I always use HDR. Hope we get a new sniper AND pistol in next update/season 3 :)

[@pnp072000]

When does season 3 come out? I've been hoping for a new sniper and pistol for so long.

[@sean997]

@@pnp072000 have a look when season 2 ends on your battle pass and that'll give you your answer mate

[@larbi253]

I hope the barrett is a new sniper that would probably convince me to play and get it unlocked or just buy it outright

[@vVincent.]

@@pnp072000 17 days

[@Husker_]

Ace has apparently never sniped on the rooftops on Tavorsk District. He would’ve known long ago the HDR was a better sniper in Warzone!

[@adaml1944]

Cant wait to see the stats for the "Intervention"

[@gangweedpilled4977]

If they’re going for realism then it should have no bullet drop and basically be a hitscan. It’s the most accurate sniper in the world

[@feroplomin8564]

What do you mean? Is it coming to the game?

[@OmarLh685]

@@gangweedpilled4977 That would be so broken that it would kill the game balance.

[@BunnyArisu]

@@BurntPlaydoh Have you never seen the Intervention weapon system in real life? It essentially aims the gun for you. It calculates weather, wind, distance, coriolis effect, etc.

[@BunnyArisu]

@@BurntPlaydoh Lmao taking this comment way too seriously. The person wasn't being serious when saying it should be hitscan. The Intervention weapon system has a bunch of tools that likely exist for other platforms now, sure, but you're just taking this all too seriously. Chill out, bud.

[@mboomer88]

All I can say from my experience in warzone is that the ax-50 works better for me. I tried the HDR but didn't do well with it. I switched to the ax-50 and got way more hits in and even won a couple of times. Yes there were times where my ax-50 just couldn't hit people super far away, but those people were not a big threat just bc they were so far.

[@jday4217]

These are my exact thoughts on it.

[@paskowitz]

Future video suggestion. FN FAL vs EBR for mid to long range engagements. I'm finding a trio with 2 bolts and 1 DMR to be very very effective (as it was in PUBG). DMR hits a few shots and then bolty only has to center mass hit for a down (or vice versa). EDIT: Trios only, not talkin solos.

[@robertglenn3643]

EBR is probably better for sniping, but the fal is more practical.

[@Agent_OB]

EBR is better than FAL but only uses sniper bullets so you don’t get much ammo so for that reason FAL

[@envrnmntlsm]

also, the FAL isnt a one shot headshot

[@paskowitz]

@@Agent_OB That was my thinking as well. With the FAL, you can pretty much spam it.

[@Agent_OB]

General Grievous only Ax50 and HDR are one shot head shot

[@awesomegianluca]

Two more things to consider: - The HDR has a stock attachment (FTAC Champion) that removes almost all of its idle sway, but I don't think the AX-50 has an attachment like that. - The highest possible zoom level on the HDR (12.5x i think, zoomed in with variable zoom) is higher than that of the AX-50 (12x I think).

[@whatregiment155]

I used to prefer the AX-50, but the HDR really grew on me... I've been getting some headshots out to around 350 m, where everything in my scope is a poorly rendered blur-blob. Also got a hit at about 500 m once, but it took more shots than I care to admit.

[@Quantum-]

The ax-50 also has the ability to equip more ads speed attachments than the hdr to counteract the slower ads times. I still find the hdr to be a more consistent 1 shot. That's why it's my go to in search and in br.

[@ImThe5thKing]

In MP, it's AX-50 all day. Quicker ADS is so crucial to combat M4's and MP5's constantly spraying at you with pinpoint accuracy. I'm still back and forth for WZ, cause my shots are pretty consistent headshots with both snipers.

[@Quantum-]

@@ImThe5thKing yeah the only reason I choose the hdr in most cases in wz is because idle away is worse on the ax-50 and the ax has to be dressed for longer ranges to feel comfortable for me. The hdr however, I just take the laser off and throw on the dual zoom scope and I'm good to go.

[@v32finish28]

ABSOLUTE . LEGEND. just the video I wanted !!!!!!

[@MadManPresentations]

I've been reading in damage charts online that the K98 does 154 damage up close. Anybody know if this is true? Would that actually give it even better damage, or are the charts flawed?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

It's true. It deals more damage to the chest up close but it drops off fairly early on and it doesn't have the same headshot potential as the AX or HDR.

[@wigglytuffgaming]

@@TheXclusiveAce i had to stop using the Lever Action because it just doesn't do enough damage in BR. Any tips on making this gun work?

[@MadManPresentations]

@@TheXclusiveAce Wow, good to know! I noticed it taking 2 shots at some ranges and 3 at others. Thanks for the reply.

[@thisguythatguy123]

@@TheXclusiveAce I though the Kar98k was a one shot kill at all distances. That is what I have been seeing so far.

[@DEE-Reece22]

@@thisguythatguy123 nah I'm not sure the exact range but it stops being a 1 hit at a certain range. It's still lethal pretty far though.

[@AndroidsDreamTV]

I feel more comfortable with the AX-50, I think it looks more agile.

[@AndroidsDreamTV]

@@lloydjetten4502 that explains your smile in your ugly face

[@deniskhalifngee4102]

AndroidsDreamTV uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh💀

[@deniskhalifngee4102]

i also feel more confidet with the ax

[@AndroidsDreamTV]

@@deniskhalifngee4102 honestly there are no big differences between HDR and Ax, and feeling more agile and comfortable is a personal opinion not a fact.

[@Raage.]

It feels more agile

[@apoleonschneider]

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[@krispycreamxd1075]

I like EBR-14. I don't know why. EBR-14 is like headshot machine.

[@lkm0183]

I like how almost every clip in the background of the video, he uses the AX-50, although he says the HDR is superior.

[@anthonyjoseph7521]

I basically use them as most people do I think: AX50 for closer ranges and HDR for long ranges. I am just as surprised that the ADS speed with no attachments is identical; Never would have guessed that lol. This honestly just makes me all the more curious for the Gun Guides on each Sniper Rifle. Appreciate the info as always ACE! 😉

[@TEXT-REDACTED]

HDR is not my type (Simply for the fact that it looks like a covenant-human abomination)

[@ukdrilllyrics2624]

Same

[@_________5015]

True ahaha but im gonna try HDR

[@TEXT-REDACTED]

@Abhishek Ravi um, no one?

[@holysunnydspirit5671]

Thats the best part

[@Vortex0315]

617ms is quite long time, i remember the ballista in bo2 had 380ms and it was slow compared to the msr with quickdraw in mw3 :D

[@MyPlaylist97]

Multi-player is much a faster game than warzone

[@DilanPandemic]

I feel like the AX-50 needs a damage buff before its damage drop off then, because its SUPPOSED to have higher damage... makes me sad. I like the way the AX-50 handles better.

[@gunstru]

Yes and no. The hdr is a special ammo and is actually made to shoot longer than the ax50. And they both have distinct weapon description to state this. Ax50: Prelcise shooting onver linger distances Hdr: Devastating at longer distances

[@YourLocalBigfoot]

still though, the ax-50 is a 50 BMG sniper/anti-materiel rifle

[@shawnyrs5255]

The hdr is like a ballistic

[@ftKomA]

Actually no, the AX-50 doe not need a buff, the difference between them is that the HDR is better for long distances and the AX-50 for mid-range. That is intended and the first time they did snipers right in cod imo.

[@REAPER3fitty]

@@YourLocalBigfoot yeah that means it'll drop off must faster. .50bmg is anti material. Meaning big, heavy bullets not meant to carry energy over a long flat trajectory. They drop off like rocks. It doesn't need any buff. It's fine

[@FSUBestPker]

You didn’t mention at all that the HDR has less ADS attachments than the AX-50. With the stippled grip tape, the AX-50 is significantly quicker than the HDR.

[@jetthinteregger1562]

Plus the dual zoom scope is insane

[@FSUBestPker]

Vekxedd I never said it was about quick scoping. I’m pointing out the fact that ADS time is very important and should be accounted for when comparing the two sniper rifles.

[@FSUBestPker]

Vekxedd dude, read the title of the video he’s literally comparing which one is better, not all about which one is better at long range. I’m literally stating the fact that he forgot to add a little bit of information.

[@armanesteghamat589]

You’re not putting a short barrel and tac laser on a sniper in war zone...

[@tsprsx]

You’re putting a stippled grip tape though

[@BeardedSavageJ]

When he’s talking about the bullet drop over extreme ranges, as someone who played battlefield 3&4 for 5+ years, you have to feel the headshot. Also, variable zoom scopes are amazing

[@dgtldead]

Definitely, I was dropping people at long range with the SVD in 3, due to the 4x PSO scope actually having a proper rangefinder. Once I got used to a suppressor, I was sitting way off somewhere, ranging enemy snipers then popping them in the head.

[@NaughtyShepherd]

Ace, did you test out other scopes? The VLK3.0 is phenomenal on the HDR.

[@randallmeans9797]

Best optic on ARs imo!!!

[@Ziiphyr]

Yes quick scoping with the VLK on the HDR is a god send

[@australianwi-fi]

I really really want to use the VLK, but I'm all about aesthetics and the VLK just doesn't look good :(

[@clarity_supp]

Im so glad I'm not the only one using this in warzone! It SMACKS

[@troglodyte8242]

@@australianwi-fi it looks good on rthe russian weapons and if you wanna go for a personalised mercenary's weapon look with spray paint

[@TheGamingDefinition]

Honestly if you aren't a confident sniper the HDR is the better option, if you want to go for a slightly higher risk/high reward scenario, the AX-50 is where it's at judging from this video!

[@br3nn3n]

TheGamingDefinition how is the AX-50 high risk/ high reward?

[@jacksonwilson9806]

this statement would actually be true if you were talking about the kar98

[@Ikareruu]

Haven't heard your opinion on this yet. What's your view on sniping and thermal optics? As well as the the boring rooftop playstyle that a lot of people seem to be glued too?

[@TheGamingDefinition]

@@br3nn3n high risk = lower bullet velocity meaning you you have to predict movement more at longer ranges and also account for bullet drop. High reward = higher firerate so you have more followup shots to make up for the extra skill/risk required.

[@TheGamingDefinition]

@@Ikareruu thermal optics are boring af, sniping is okay if you don't sit on a building for 80% of the game not moving.

[@remuvs]

I've used both, the HDR feels like you get more reliable all purpose rifle as it 1-shot downs consistently at longer ranges whereas the AX-50 is a nice squad rifle since follow ups are faster.

[@96Rileyh]

Would love to see some test results on using the Kill Chain perk in Warzone. Could be a solid perk 1 if it drastically increases chance of finding Killstreaks in boxes

[@quickstepz9250]

Last time ACE and Driftor confirmed the AUG was best weapon at the moment! 3 days later, that AUG! with best attachments, is in the STORE for 2400cp That cheese.

[@xxtadaz]

What were the attachments. I didn't know they'd listed them, and could not find it myself, just jumbled my own one together.

[@shootinbruin3614]

@@xxtadaz Other attachments are a matter of preference, but using one of the 5.56 conversion magazines is essential

[@Dangerman-zg3ui]

Which AUG blueprint?

[@eldonhill4840]

@@xxtadaz that's not what he means. Just use the 5.56 30 round mags, the longest barrel, and the CQB Tac Comb stock. Everything else is personal preference. I like the 3.0x integral sight. You could also throw on stippled grip or a compensator/vert grip to control the vertical recoil if you have a hard time with it.

[@Mythzz]

0:27 *"it is a definite one shot to the head even with full armor. This makes using one of these Sniper Rifles a *NO BRAINER"* hehe funny pun...

[@jigglyo]

Mythzz obvs a headshot kills them even if full armour because they don’t put armour on the head😂

[@Mythzz]

@@jigglyo i know that. I play alot of mw, its just the pun that cracks me up 😂

[@zacherywesterberg4137]

FourEyedKing there is armor on heads bud, headshot multiplier makes the ax and the hdr do 250 to the head

[@jigglyo]

Zachery Westerberg no there isn’t haha that’s why they stick the armor plates on their chests?

[@Mythzz]

Why is everyone arguing under my comment about armor 😂 ITS JUST A PUN BROS 🤣

[@pablopancacho1265]

Been working on sniping after war zone dropped this video was a huge help. Shout out to comment section too!

[@tristanmckissack7716]

I love how you chose the FAL as your primary. I love it, and I feel it offer great damage and decent fire rate. I set mine up as close to the Beefeater as possible, and use it with the .50 GS.

[@ysosirius8470]

You must love it even more now

[@tellis9844]

I just find the HDR better in general, no rhyme or reason why it just gets me more kills. The AX 50 is inconsistent for me.

[@nihartantry]

i just started grinding getting all attachments for all my sniper rifles, and the ax 50 had so much bullet drop for me. it’s wayyyyy to inconsistent for me too, and i love the hdr

[@Legna1210]

When I first started playing I was using the ax 50 I had all the ranges set up for the exact mil dots and then I picked up the HDR and never look back🤣🤣

[@kingstrap8159]

Hey Ace. I have been watching all of your mw gun guide videos and I must say that you have been very helpful. Thank you very much man. Your advice makes me a better player. Keep up the good work. Legend.

[@mvseven9438]

Thanks Ace! I was doing a bunch of testing in there last night. Trying to figure out which one works best in my hands. Ended up AX for me. But I need to unlock more for the hdr.

[@DoodleMan149]

I was never in the AX-50 fan club. The 50 Cal seems to be very overated in many of these games. Honestly, I feel the AX-50 should do more damage to offset it's negatives compared to the HDR bit that's just me.

[@inportrace]

i have been using the Dragunov SVD and that thing can really slaughter, my preferred sniper in WZ. all snipers get a down with a headshot anyway :D

[@TheHighGroundItself]

My favorite sniper is the Ax-50 , i like the hdr i actually used it a lot when i didnt had the AX-50 but i still prefer the Ax-50

[@jdunit1847]

Thanks for soing all of this, it is extremely helpful!

[@ChaseTheBass878]

I am digging my ax 50 but I just really got comfortable with it so when I use the HDR I tend to not shoot as good

[@FillsFantasyFactory1]

I has this problem with HDR. I was so comfortable with HDR in Ground War and MP. And when I finally gold it. I moved to AX-50 I couldn't hit anything for a few matches because that lower bullet Velocity and drop. Now, Iam comfortable with AX-50 and can't return to HDR because ADS and all is slower then on my AX-50. But stil, I can pull out headshot above 150 meters easily. But in closer situation Iam trash with HDR right now. EDIT: And Iam kinda sad. Because my best play of the games in Cyber/S&D were with HDR

[@Coeey]

Same I started with the AX 50 and now I can’t change, even with different barrels I’m missing a lot more shots now that I put a different barrel on it so I went back to stock and now I’m back to hitting head shots. I feel it’s hard to 0 in with the change of bullet velocity but maybe that’s just me.

[@REAPER3fitty]

I maxed my AX before learning all this so I'm on a level 14 HDR. Still shredding

[@lucathecat5781]

I started using the EBR in Warzone and I think it can 1 shot through all 3 armor plates with a headshot. I gotten some 1 shots but there's no way for me to tell if they are fully plated but all it needs is one shot.

[@TheXclusiveAce]

I've tested this and it can't one shot an enemy with full armor, even with a headshot.

[@Nimajneb42069]

TheXclusiveAce still an amazing weapon. Been using it over the ax50 and hdr lately

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

@@TheXclusiveAce what about the dragon , headshot vs full armor....

[@TheXclusiveAce]

I'm not 100% certain if the Dragunov can one shot against full armor up close but I definitely remember getting a headshot hitmarker (with no down) at a longer range so it's not a guaranteed 1 shot to the head at least, unlike with the AX and the HDR.

[@moonfire9563]

@@TheXclusiveAce also tested this 100% guaranteed 150+dmg with headshot. I think you werent in range or didnt hit headshot somehow.

[@RobertPMcDermott]

Gotta be the Ax50 for me, feel like agent .47 with that thing ❤️

[@kR8Ytos]

Thanks for this Ace! Was wondering about this just yesterday :)

[@TerkanTyr]

I feel like these snipers are almost perfectly balanced to both be viable, with small differences that make you really think about what kinda stats you wanna prioritize. It would be nice with a semiauto .50 Barrett M107 though. Not sure how they'd balance it (probably higher bullet drop, slower velocity, and maybe slightly lower damage) but I'm pretty sure it'd be really cool. (An L115A3, aka. AWM, aka. AWP but more powerful, would also be cool.)

[@Edwin6264.]

Dragonuv...

[@Lucifer-cj7et]

@@Edwin6264. yea lol 😂😂

[@emwols]

Personally I think the crossbow with explosive bolt is the best sniper, as long as you hit their body their dead. Plus the utility of explosive bolts comes quite in handy when vehicles happen to drive by 😈

[@larbi253]

Rpg

[@Guilopes99]

Extremely good guide! Just wish you had tested these with commons setups, like an AX setup to improve range + ADS/mobility vs HDR with better ADS. In my opinion, HDR is really good for having fun hitting long ranges, but if you're playing to win, most of those 150m+ longshots aren't vital, while being really quick to hit direct battles with AX's quicker ADS and fire rate might win you games, specially if you're on the last 10 teams and you have to hit the right people. Also another tip, get 2 similar loadouts, the first with overkill with sniper + AR with good accuracy and range like RAM, the other loadout with ghost/other perk you like for end circles. Get the one with overkill first, then buy/run to another loadout crate and get ghost

[@evanlitchfield4621]

I feel like there are more attachments for the AX-50 that will improve aim down sight speed. because it has a grip attachment that the HDR doesn't have. I will probably try it today, using those bull barrels for the HDR to see how it changes recoil. I know the range drops off significantly but I don't aim that far with my snipers anyway. We shall see

[@deepwaterbox5389]

Let’s acknowledge how the dragonov ain’t even considered 😭

[@dombayt5071]

Wtf dragunov is trash amd its not evem a Bolt action Sniper its a dmr

[@xlordxsithxroyalmiller3185]

@ItHz2p its caliber and bullet velocity. that is what makes it a sniper.

[@Hieroph4nt]

@@dombayt5071 no it IS a sniper

[@dombayt5071]

@@Hieroph4nt i know that it is a sniper idiot its just not a bolt action Sniper its a dmr

[@logn.v]

it’s not even a one shot headshot

[@SuperMeCrazy1]

I use AX-50 for the Quicky Scopey no thermal My Hadir Right Hand w/ range attachment w/ dual thermal For Warzone that is

[@christhepolymath3466]

Great video. Since the AX-50 has a much better standard scope, the AX-50 will pretty much always ADS faster than the HDR, since the HDR really needs another scope to be effective, making its ADS speed slower. So with the AX-50 you can easily get an ADS speed that is at least 67ms faster than the HDR while also having the faster fire rate; using the standard scope also saves a mod slot to use on something else, whereas you need to spend a slot on the HDR for a scope. All in all, with these things accounted for, the HDR seems like it's the better option for long range, as you said, but the AX-50 is better all-around when using the standard scope, which is a good scope anyway.

[@asdl805]

I have a load out for both and I use them both all the time but the AX-50 is still my go to, I’ve always played battlefield so adjusting for bullet drop and where to lead on a target has never been an issue for me. If I’m honest my longest shot were made with an AX-50 and some of them were killing drivers in moving tac rovers. At the end of the day it comes down to the player. Whichever one you put more time behind at long range is the one you’ll know the best where to hold and lead shots. To me the AX-50 handles smoother and doesn’t seem to clutter my screen as much as the HDR.

[@brettpearce8843]

HDR it's just so much more consistent for me and I can pull off some ridiculous shots with it. Literally collated 2 kids out a chopper today on warzone from from a fairly far distance too.

[@keenarnia]

How did you know their age?

[@brettpearce8843]

@@keenarnia it's just lingo pal don't take everything so literal.

[@keenarnia]

@@brettpearce8843 how did you know I'm taking it literal?

[@gunstru]

@@keenarnia how did you know he was serious? 🤔🤔

[@brettpearce8843]

@@keenarnia because u asked the question, usually a joke/sarcasm would end in some iteration of a laugh. But guess you have a point kinda, just took my statement into a weird topic even asking silly stuff lol.

[@alexmaurice4274]

I remember the ax50 gave me hitmarkers on ground war where the hdr didnt

[@stoictraceur4794]

You were aiming slightly too high.

[@eldonhill4840]

They do literally the exact same damage

[@stoictraceur4794]

@@eldonhill4840 You are correct. OP is saying that the HDR keeps missing shots.

[@emwols]

Eldon Hill right, but between 75-100 meters the HDR can still one shot the body whereas the AX-50 can only get headshots. It doesn’t matter much in Warzone cause odds are you will never get one shot to the body because people have armor, but in ground war that 25 meter extension on the HDR is huge

[@REAPER3fitty]

@@stoictraceur4794 HDR didn't miss shit. OP did.

[@tooni-2ni]

A quick tip: Don't use thermal scope, use the default or the zoomable scope, because the thermal can't see trough windows and enemies with cold blooded perk can be hidden from you

[@edwardlizotte6373]

@Ace you should do a follow up video specifically on AX50 bullet drop and every 50 meters how high you have to aim. I haven’t seen one solid post or video on this.

[@tommyseabee2176]

There are so many good, actual, real large caliber precision rifles available that it’s sad they had to make up the HDR. The AX50 is an actual rifle.

[@MegaDAli95]

Probably a licensing thing. Might be why the TAR-21 is called the "RAM-7"

[@jacobholmes5815]

Same thing with the striker 45

[@xlordxsithxroyalmiller3185]

make up hdr? plently of platforms using 338 lupa mags. hard to say THE 338 platform, however EVERYONE knows what a barret 50 is.

[@bradycameron3584]

@@xlordxsithxroyalmiller3185 the AX50 isn't a Barrett. Barrett is a company that does make .50 cal snipers but the AX50 is the gun in the game and the real one is made by Accuracy International. They are both chambered in .50 BMG.

[@xlordxsithxroyalmiller3185]

@@bradycameron3584 exactly. 50 bmg is 50 bmg. What ya shoot it out of don't matter much. Same with 338.

[@halowalker797]

4:55 lol me doin double kills on 700m lmao

[@aaronpoorman5060]

I really like the HDR but my personal skill is definitely with the AX-50. That better re centering usually guarantees me that dual hit kill when handling the AX. When using the variable scopes, i find myself having more confidence in my aim with the AX as i adjust for distancing head shots.

[@DrGrandTheftAutoV]

The Dragunov and EBR-14 have good enough bullet velocities and the same 1-shot headshots at extreme ranges. Especially if you’re depending on follow up shots, they might actually be the best for you, and I use them pretty often. Real-life soldiers agree and often use a SCAR-H, M21, or something similar for typical long ranges.

[@noirsuit3892]

Is the “oil can suppressor” still bugged??

[@user-gy1jf9tt6h]

Noir Suit what was the bug?

[@owentustin-fuchs6203]

What bug?

[@DIETRYING120]

It reduces your range when it Is supposed to increase your range

[@Zethraxxur]

I think so ye

[@REAPER3fitty]

@@DIETRYING120 which absolutely isn't how suppressors work. Let alone an oil filter haha I guess all suppressors are bugged since they tell you it give you more range.

[@francisconango2755]

Hope they nerf thermals honestly in warzone. Makes sniping a little too easy. And I want sniping to be part of warzone, but I don't like how good thermal is. Maybe give it a Max range that u can see targets, I think tarkov does something similar to this. And the fact that the "counter" cold blooded isn't that effective against it really is lame

[@novkorova2774]

The counter is supposed to nullify the sight being thermal, not make you totally invisible, it could get additional effects on warzone tho

[@keanuk9764]

Just run cold blooded lol, it's a hard counter, without the light up it's hard to see targets at distance and if you see a target through thermal with cold blooded you could spot them 10x better with a normal scope.

[@idontgotagun9867]

Stranded You aim slower, you get sniper glint, so no get over it and run cold blooded

[@keanuk9764]

@@idontgotagun9867 You still get sniper glint if you run the variable thermal, it's also harder to predict long range shots which is what the thermal is supposed be better at. Seeing longer ranges. With the 3.25x thermal over the variable.

[@kiddrax8545]

Stranded how do you nerf a thermal lol

[@BrianWilliams-op6lv]

I personally like the ax-50 more for long range sniping because 500-550m is right on the bottom of the crosshairs when using variable zoom. It’s a perfect mark for getting people out of the tower from a safe distance

[@gattsu2604]

I've pretty much only used the AX50 and kar98k exclusively in MP (I have 4k kills with ax50, 2.5k with kar) but I have to admit the HDR feels better for Warzone

[@xeviusUsagi]

ok, found out why I always miss whit the HDR Though the gun was just bad or had really huge bullet drop off and slow speed now its the exact opposite the gun has WAY faster bullet speed and less bullet drop off then I thought I always shot too much to the side to hit a running enemy and too much above to hit a faraway enemy nope, just aim right at them and you hit them

[@canid2088]

I've been grinding for gold hdr for a bit and totally forgot about bullet drop, projectile speed, and hit markers. HDR pro barrel and variable zoom shreds in multiplayer and in Warzone.

[@jay5326]

What class setup would u recommend for the ax-50?

[@ytngillz2091]

on my momma cuh Stippled grip Sleight of hand The stock that increases ads speed 32 inch barrel Monolithic suppressor In warzone I feel like ads time isn’t as important as multiplayer but I still sped it up, and you’ll have maximum damage with the longest possible barrel and suppressor to keep you stealthy in the huge map.

[@robertglenn3643]

Monolith suppressor, extended barrel, tac laser, stipples grip tape or f-tac assassin and focus perk.

[@jay5326]

Robert Glenn thanks!

[@TheNickJames]

BEST TWO BARREL/MUZZLE ATTACHMENTS -32” Barrel -Tactical Suppressor (Don’t run Monolithic; according to Drift0r, it adds an extra 2 yards at best. All the Monolithic Suppressor will really do is keep you off the radar, while slowing you down) NICE TO HAVE ATTACHMENTS (ADS speed improvement; I run all three) -Stippled Grip Tape -Singuard Assassin Stock -Tac Laser (only run this one if you’re an on-the-go sniper that can land their shots relatively quickly) PREFERENCE -Sleight-of-Hand Perk/ 7-Round Mags -Focus Perk, if you find that you keep getting flinched off of your shots (not as important in Warzone, since you will have already switched to your Secondary AR/SMG, or taken cover at this point) -Presence Of Mind Perk (for those who like to take their time with shots) All my opinion, of course.

[@ShowTheOreo]

32 inch barrel, suppressor, extended mag or sleight of hand, granulated grip, thermal scope

[@volishun]

Nice video. What HDR skin are you using? In another video it looked like you were using a dark flat greyish skin on it. Just wondering. Thanks

[@snakeintelligence4452]

That last shot was sick

[@keegans.3939]

I think they need to make sniping a bit more challenging and add more drop

[@EdLo.]

no

[@keegans.3939]

Omicron Force coward

[@keegans.3939]

Matt Lorenz coward

[@itsmeadamg]

I just like the way the HDR feels compared to the AX50.

[@89Ayten]

In frame-tight sniper battles across the map the netcode and latency has more to do with who comes out on top, versus the rate of fire difference between the HDR & AX.

[@carlom.2194]

Great video! Glad someone shared this on a Warzone Group in FB