AXISFLYING Just Fixed DJI AVATA's Most DANGEROUS Fault! 3.5" Kit Review

[@woltervandenberg]

I was really interested in getting the Axisflying kit. Wasn't too worried about the conversion but I never realised that it brings the propguards in view. That might be a dealbraker for me.

[@Rimzler]

It was kind of a bummer for me too, fixed one issue and created another... I've been working on a side project that fixes everything last month, stay tuned!

[@woltervandenberg]

@@Rimzler I’ve been thinking about transferring the guts of a DJI FPV drone onto a durable 5 inch frame. I would just love a durable 5 inch quad with the extra features that both the FPV drone and the Avata offer. If DJI could make something like the Avata but with crazy good acro abilities I would gladly give them my money (again😢)

[@Tphive]

I think the design assumes you'll be using a GoPro for footage and the O3 just for flight. I feel the same way though.

[@chrisbee5481]

​@@woltervandenbergwait. Dji might bring out a new dji fpv2

[@TrevorBrown753]

The props showing was a disappointment to learn for me too. I’ll probably run a full GoPro when I am actually filming with it though when I do the conversion

[@michaelalmontecorona7080]

This Video Has A Lot Of Info That I was Not Able to get out there.. thank you.

[@Rimzler]

Thanks for tuning in!☺️

[@FPVMystique]

it's simply not designed for that kind of flying. It is enlightening to know what the performance envelope is for this drone. Awesome video and comparison! Thanks, and I look forward to your future videos. Subbed.

[@Rimzler]

Even if not designed for it, it's just unacceptable that it has a software bug and just poor tuning in general, it can be solved quite easily if they gave us some tuning controls ahahah

[@BeautyBeastRC]

My only problem with this is the fact that anyone who bought an avata is not going to install this kit. It's way too complicated.

[@Rimzler]

Yes, I've been building it today and you must really like Lego style projects in order to do this😂 I'm working on an easier mod, stay tuned!

[@BeautyBeastRC]

@@Rimzler I look forward to it! anything to help the avata is very welcome. Thanks for the great content

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for tuning in!

[@SuperSigma69]

Whatchu talking about.

[@JeanPaulRodriguezPhotography]

Hello, did you upgrade the motors ? Or just the body of the avata?

[@hknight007]

Great video 👍 In comparison of DJI Avata 1 with Axisflying 3.5 vs DJI Avata 2 stock, which one would say it flies better in Acro? Thanks

[@Rimzler]

Well axis flying flies much better, but you give away a lot of flight time and you see the ducts in view when going slow, so choose your poison

[@hknight007]

@@Rimzler I understand, it depends on what you plan to achieve 🤔. Thank you so much for your help 👍👍

[@d369studios]

WOW, this is UNREAL!!!! Wish there was a service where you could buy pre-made mod's like this one Thanks for making the video! Sub'd 2 ur channel

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much! Check one of my latest videos, I'm making a mod of my own!

[@orozcocris93]

how did you get the battery overload to level out? mine wont even hover for a minute before it just drops out of the sky

[@Rimzler]

That's very interesting, I had no issues at all luckily, are your motors the same as mine?

[@orozcocris93]

@@Rimzler they are. i tried even a new esc board and it gave me the exact same problem. maybe i have a defective motor somewhere, thank you for the reply!

[@robertparenton7470]

Thank You! This is the video I was looking for to upgrade my DJI Avata.

[@caioDxavier]

Cara seu vídeo é incrível. Meu inglês não está lá muito bom, mas o que eu consegui entender eu curti bastante. Eu tenho um de DJI AVATA, é o meu primeiro Drone, e estou buscando aprimorar mais as minhas habilidades no modo manual,ou acro. Seu vídeo foi bem esclarecedor, eu deu pra sentir bem as mudanças de um para outro. Vou considerar transicionar meu avata para esse modelo. Mas independente, foi bom saber as limitações de acrobacias o avata tem! Parabéns pelo vídeo 👏🏾👏🏾

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much for the kind words! It flies so much better with this mod but has a few drawbacks like it's slower top speed, heavier, less efficient and can't use low cam angles, I've been studying a solution for a few months, check my Avata 2 video you will love it

[@chrisbee5481]

The reason why the 3.5" mod is slower is, because 1507 are pretty small for 3.5" quad blade props. Tri the new gemfan 3630 if they fit. Also maybe the the hq duct tri blade. 2005 to 2205 are better for 3.5" 4~5 blade props.

[@Rimzler]

Maybe a 3 or even a biblade would help spin faster and achieve faster speeds at the cost of low end grip! I am looking for different 3.5 props to try

[@daltonfootballboy]

Loved this video, super informative and honest! Thank you!

[@DessiLu14]

To be honest This is how the Avata should have came from the factory. We shouldnt have to be buying a Axis kit to make the Avata better. With that said, for the price dji are charging, and if you have the money, this is a must have upgrade for the Avata.

[@Rimzler]

Yes it should have come good and without death roll from the box, it's fine a little bit of shake and fully understandable, but the death roll is unacceptable

[@timoklap]

Its not bad.the frame is visible in minimum 13 degree angle. Usualy in manual i fly 20-25 degree

[@Rimzler]

Sometimes I need to shoot very slow and indoor, so still need that low cam angle

[@francescomele2114]

For information, why do you also change the battery connectors? Is there a risk that they will burn?

[@Rimzler]

You have to change connectors because the og ones are too short

[@francescomele2114]

@@Rimzler 👌

[@botchitong]

would be really nice if dji can make

[@Rimzler]

It would be incredible to have a light FPV drone from DJI, hell even the mini 4 they started it and left to rot the FPV function This is the same version as always, the review is kinda late

[@Tphive]

Even as a viewer, I have a heart attack everytime it death-rolls, I know that feeling all too well. Truly the Achilles heel of the Avata. That said, the stock Avata is durable as hell, I'm not sure I'd trust the 3.5" frame to hold up as well in a crash. (Sidenote: Assigning the right-hand switch to arm/disarm helps to respond faster than the double-tap)

[@Rimzler]

Stock Avata is pretty durable yes, the mod is probably more fragile, as it has more inertia as it weighs more, and standoffs and carbon are going to probably snap as I see it, maybe just need replacing standoffs most times! I use the same layout for the regular FPV, but always forget to double tap on Avata ahahahhaha

[@Vladamyr]

That switch and/or double tap does not work if you bump into something lightly and the Avata throws a fit.

[@dualmigraine086]

have you tried to just upgrade the motors on the regular avata? Avata with C157 motors?

[@Rimzler]

I have not, but am curious

[@john-martin]

For slow flying or hovering which would last longer, stock or 3.5 kit?

[@Rimzler]

Stock will last longer I'm pretty sure, the 3.5 kit is heavier and power hungry

[@teeodee4924]

Great video. I like your style. Subscribed!

[@extremeboatdockingmedia]

I wish there was wireless transfer for avata. The worst part is always accessing the sd card. All my mavics allow quick transfer in the app.

[@Rimzler]

Avata is a hit and miss drone, could have been so much more

[@leonardothillet6423]

I just ordered a kit of these. Have you tried it indoors? I'm looking forward to see how it performs for real estate indoor tours, I usually put a naked gopro on my avata when flying indoors so the prop guards in view should not be a problem in my case.

[@Rimzler]

It will be stable indoors with the sensors, probably very good for that kind of shots, let me know!

[@py2xrf]

grande Lavoro ❤️

[@Rimzler]

Grazie!🚀🚀🚀

[@billmcdonald4335]

4:12 Now *that's* how to sell a product! Fantastico!

[@Rimzler]

Ahhahahahah I forgot to clean my camera after building, was full of fingerprints😂😂😂🤌

[@whoopsquad]

Ok… now go dive the Burj Khalifa😂😂😂 Seriously-- the upgrade flew amazingly. I’d love to have that drone package. You shredded for 6 mins-- wow.

[@Rimzler]

I have to go to Ireland in a couple of weeks and dive cliffs, will bring the avata, but probably I'm gonna use my own prototype frame🤫

[@ibreakankles5508]

I was pissed on my first couple acro mode flights when the death-roll happened thinking to myself that I just spent 1300 dollars on this! I’ll try to upgrade out and hopefully won’t regret it.

[@Rimzler]

I didn't expect such a overlook from a company like DJI, seems like it can be solved with basic tuning

[@EdEditz]

I wish they had a set like that for the Avata-2.

[@Rimzler]

I tried man, but it's built like a puzzle, will be hard to make a custom frame

[@spakkasse]

hahahahaha m'hai fatto morir dal ridere in alcune scene, specie durante il death roll. Grazie delle info. Credo che ne prenderò un secondo solo per avere quella versione di avata per altro genere di riprese. Permetti una domanda: hai notato cali nella portata del segnale? Grazie ancora

[@Rimzler]

Cali di segnale non ho notato nulla, magari perde un 2/3%, alla fine le antenne sono le stesse, solo in orizzontale Consiglio anche di guardare il mio penultimo video, sto sviluppando una mod per avata che migliora sia l'originale che la mod axisflying

[@spakkasse]

@@Rimzler Ho notato alcune tue risposte ai commenti in cui menzionavi il progetto, attendo con trepidazione le news. iscritto e campanella attiva! Grazie ancora!

[@Rimzler]

Ho già caricato alcune anteprime, al momento sono in Irlanda dove lo ho testato giù per le ventosissime scogliere, a breve posterò i video!

[@LuckyPratama71]

Sir can you please share the rate you were using with axisflying avata?

[@Rimzler]

I was using stock rates ahabahha

[@lcprod]

Giuste osservazioni 👍

[@Rimzler]

Grazie! Peccato che DJI non fixi semplicemente con un aggiornamento

[@zippomaker]

Ciao Andrea, come va? relamente si perde il 30% di autonomia con la mod? a che punto è il tuo telaio? perchè se fosse gia pronto...... ;)

[@Rimzler]

Si perde parecchia autonomia perché consuma e pesa di più, il mio telaio è pronto, i motori devono essere prodotti però, il 20 febbraio parlo con una grossa azienda che è interessata al progetto Comunque dai test si guadagna autonomia, ho visto 25/30 minuti ahahahah ovviamente volando piano/ hovering

[@rexonfuentes4250]

upgraded avata can carry full gopro?

[@Rimzler]

Also stock can! Modded is better

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Oh you transform avata and your haircut hahah

[@Rimzler]

Ahahhahaha had to mod everything!

[@xboxice2005]

Does it only happen in Manual mode, does it tumble even in normal and sport mode?

[@Rimzler]

Very hard to make it tumble in sport and normal, but in windy conditions I had a couple cases

[@xboxice2005]

@@Rimzler in sport mode right?

[@xboxice2005]

@@Rimzler as in the cases you had it happened it was windy and in sport mode?

[@nilodalisay]

What is the red warning?

[@Rimzler]

Motor overload, that's because the escs are pushing more than usual, shouldn't be an issue tho, there is plenty of heatsinks and chips should be high quality on DJI

[@Vladamyr]

An early death for all your motors.

[@DrFrantic77]

Hi my friend, did you change anything on the PID Settings ?

[@Rimzler]

It's not possible to change the pids on the avata, rates I didn't touch them

[@DrFrantic77]

@@Rimzler ok… that option was only in DJI FPV… my mistake. Thanks

[@edgararcega3046]

It's as if the sensors in acro mode are trying to over correct. All sensors should be disabled in full acro giving the pilot complete control

[@Rimzler]

It's a fault in the PID tuning and the duct shape, happens also in barebones FPV drones, it can be corrected via software, shouldn't happen to a multi billion company product, or at least they should give us the possibility to PID tune

[@networkgeek1450]

Woaw. You are rich, my friend, buying another avata just to test axisflying upgrade. But thanks, I am planning to upgrade mine as well. Could you show us if you can do freestyle tricks with axisflying now, which you can't do with normal avata.

[@Rimzler]

Ahahahah trust me I'm not, I had to get another one to experiment on, I'm developing my own blend of Avata mod, hope will be ready soon, I need the most versatile drone possible

[@Rimzler]

With the axisflying kit you can totally do regular tricks, it only feels a bit heavier than regular quads

[@extremexrdeutschland8704]

I did this update on my avatar, it was very good, excellent!

[@Rimzler]

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Cara, você pilota muito bem...

[@Rimzler]

Thank you so much!☺️

[@Drickon]

Did this void warranty/care refresh?

[@Rimzler]

Well probably warranty, but if you reassemble like it was stock and send for DJI care probably passes, flyaway for sure I tested it with my mod they sent another

[@Drickon]

@@Rimzler Thanks! Great video. If I buy the mod kit, I'll tell them you sent me. ;)

[@CastuloFPV]

I'm sure that one day I will acquire an Avata. I'll take your advice into account, because obviously I am not going to use it in angle at all X-D Thanks mate! Good day

[@Rimzler]

Ahahahhahah hope DJI releases a more agile FPV drone in the near future! In the meantime I'm working on a Avata mod myself that should fix everything

[@extremexrdeutschland8704]

friend! Do you know of any way to improve the Avata antenna signal?

[@MrMetz79]

They should have set the center mass lower between the wings.

[@edgararcega3046]

Does this kit require welding?

[@Rimzler]

Yes motors and power wire

[@Mathew-A]

Hi great video what are your settings for gyro flow 😊 you have superstable video

[@Rimzler]

Thank you! I use the stock setting ahahah, you have to shoot in 4:3 2.7k imho is the best cause has more sensor area

[@Mathew-A]

@@Rimzler thank you I didn’t know that

[@carlospagaza7383]

hello whats rates u use bro with the update 3.5?

[@Rimzler]

Didn't really change them abahahahh

[@fpvjobscolombia7248]

Nice vid bro thanks

[@Rimzler]

Thank you for watching!

[@eprovitera]

Ciao io ho le tue stesse eliche, vedendo le manovre che fai ho riscontrato anche io le stesse problematiche. Ma con le eliche originali non ho riscontrato questi problemi ( il mio è un DJI Avata originale )

[@Sndbbscxh]

Ma la care refresh se fai il botto?

[@Rimzler]

Ho fatto il botto con un avata moddato, ma smarrito e me lo hanno cambiato, in caso si vada per la riparazione normale basta rimettere i componenti originali e magari scassarli un pochino ahahhahaha, l'importante è che ci sia tutto

[@Sndbbscxh]

@@Rimzler fanno finta di non vedere perché le saldatura rifatte si vedono

[@Rimzler]

@francesco4561 si ma anche dissaldati vanno bene basta che ci sono i pezzi, ho sentito tante storie si incavolano solo se non gli rimandi i pezzi

[@Sndbbscxh]

@@Rimzler le batterie dell' avata se glie le spedisci le sostituiscono? Cioè se dopo 200 cicli da carica accidentalmente sbatte...

[@Rimzler]

Se sono da cambiare le cambiano, specialmente se viene specificato nella richiesta, altrimenti le testano e rimandano le stesse

[@TailSpinRCSpain]

Different motors, but same ESC and same tune ?

[@Rimzler]

There is no way to change escs or tune, DJI doesn't allow it sadly, maybe we could even fix the death roll

[@pabsvisions]

what are the 4 blade red proppeller?

[@Rimzler]

Master airscrew propellers for Avata, I tried a lot of them and the 4 blades are my favs!

[@pabsvisions]

Grazie! Sai dove posso trovare qui in Europa?

[@izraelRecycled]

​@@Rimzler I like this propellers , are you using stock motors in this one ? How is it with C157 V1 ?

[@chriscflint]

There will always be a company trying to improve what some one else built, sometimes they get lucky. This is not one of those times. Would Ibuy this axix mode for my Avata, absolutely not, the standard machine flies perfectly well. If I want to Acro I have 5' and 7" race drones.

[@Rimzler]

I brought the Avata on my travels and it's incredibly versatile and gives peace of mind while flying, like people talk to me, sometimes I have to pause flying to check surroundings, it's amazing! But is kind of lacking in the acro department, once I started going further and diving things it started misbehaving and death rolling, so that's natural someone is looking for a solution, since DJI doesn't (they could sell a ton of units) The axisflying improves acro at the expense of level flying, so it's not a perfect solution I'm currently prototyping my solution that should fix all issues, stay tuned!

[@URAZKIVANER]

If it is capable of Acro Mode and if it's an FPV drone then it should be able to withstand any move a person legally does with their control sticks . And the DeathRoll is not the user's fault. It's a design flaw which they have ignored while building this. The First FPV drone did not have this problem. If this is not meant to fly like this they shouldn't have Acro Mode Enabled...

[@chriscflint]

Hi, my AVATA and my sons AVATA do not have any issues in Acro mode.@@URAZKIVANER

[@pippoditorino195]

sei super simpatico!! 😉

[@pointblank1292]

Nice Vid

[@Rimzler]

Thank you!

[@TavitaRiffaud]

MERCI BEAUCOUP

[@importon]

you forgot to fly with the gopro!

[@Rimzler]

You are totally right, I had to make a third flight with it!

[@bongpov476]

That is what you are building yesterday,you are live in Instagram...

[@Rimzler]

Yessir! I'm trying to go live more when I have juicy projects, worked till late to release the video on the same day ahahah thank you for watching!

[@andreagiuseppe-k3b]

Ma sei napoletano?

[@Rimzler]

Ahahahha Nono sono alto Lazio 😂😂😂

[@andreagiuseppe-k3b]

Bhe ci sono andato abbastanza vicino 😂💪🏻

[@TheMadmacs]

great stuff, i think the flight controller is set for the og motors and props and its software limiting the amps. maybe its possible to 3d print an extension to the camera mount to get the props out of view, i kinda like just the tips of my props in view and then stabilize remove them,

[@Rimzler]

The software is careful sending too many amps to stock motors, but bigger mod ones have no issues! I am developing a mod of my own, that has never the propellers in view, I find useful to turn the camera while flying, has the potential to create mind bending shots!

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

You need a haircut hahaha

[@Rimzler]

Ahahah sorted out!

[@miguelitord9297]

It needs to be calibrated to go faster, the computer is set to a certain speed I think

[@Rimzler]

Yes except DJI has locked it and is not possible 😓😓😓😓

[@Vladamyr]

People who think they are influencers will say pr promoteanything for money. That kit did nothing ro help the yaw crash problem. Infact a while new wash of wreors are displayed. Buy a real whoop. Encourage others to do so as well. You'll have my respect.

[@Rimzler]

I made an objective review, everything has pros and cons, someone who has an Avata and wants to learn acro may want to spend 120$ instead of 500 drone+ lipos+ charger, makes sense to me, of course had some disadvantages that I perfectly showed! Everyone will then be the judge of their own situation, of course I love whoops especially smaller and lighter ones, but every tool has a place

[@Vladamyr]

@Rimzler so, you'd send people down a shitty beginning. I hope people see this and avoid your advice. You know it's purely beginner. Past the motion controller, it's a bad move.

[@Rimzler]

I disagree, there are millions of people with Avata already, they will be able to learn acro a little better with this kit and can also carry a GoPro for work, it's a pretty good platform for not a lot of money more! It's a good platform to learn acro as you can gradually remove the safeties, and with the DJI care you have insurance on crashes and losses! Also the gear is compatible with the o3 and air unit systems so switching to regular FPV is painless

[@ibrahimalrabiah1179]

I bought the avata, In some situations when you need stablized GPS drone , It is good, but mostly I fly regular fpv deones : more confident, easy replacement, better flying, and evern more quiter , Almost I put it in the shelf today I decided to fly it ,with little wind it is not holding and it have tumble things it is awful, So Do I regret buying Avata : Yes I do

[@jimnardone32]

But it is a cinewhoop pretty darn good at 3d with that in mind..

[@Rocketfpv]

It’s a cinematic drone and everyone knows about its faults why keep doing the same thing over again? If you want to throw it around, get a freestyle quad right? Not hating on your review

[@Rimzler]

The Avata punches well above it's class, it's crazy, I don't expect it to fly great while acro, but at least have a little better tuning to not tumble out of the air ahahhaha, this could probably be fixed by DJI with a firmware update but they totally ignore the issue! I love the Avata as a travel drone and I would love to be able to do everything with it, it has a lot of peace of mind improvements over regular drones!

[@BeautyBeastRC]

Personally I think your line of thinking is wrong. Every other fpv cinewhoop drone I've seen doesn't have this problem and yet they can all be "cinematic" considering they use the same dji 03 camera. A lot of people don't know about this problem either, avata was our first fpv drone and you better believe I was salty when I found out after the fact that dji dropped the ball. It's even worse because all they really need to do is come out with a different prop guard and it would help fix the problem a crap ton.

[@Rimzler]

I've seen some similar issues on cheap FPV drones, DJI being a premium company should really not have tuning issues

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Hello

[@viking5592]

Ma la Dji non ha pensato questo Drone per usarlo in freestyle, assolutamente no

[@Rimzler]

Avendone provati tanti di Cinewhoop, quando fanno così è fatto male il tuning

[@stealthy129]

Si sente lo stesso che sei italiano 😂, te se vuole bene

[@Rimzler]

Hahahahhahaha mai provato a nasconderlo😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ThumpahFPV]

You might want to fix the title - Just Fixed means this is new, where the kit has been out for a good while. As for the kit, you void any warranty and have 0 ability to re-tune the drone, so you might as well sell the Avata and build yourself a better rig.

[@cnw-jd9tt]

Shoot wish i could afford a avata haha. I want one but being a father of two workin two jobs money goes to them bills!!!

[@Rimzler]

I feel you! DJI stuff is kind of expensive, but also it is a good investment because it keeps good resell value and with DJI care you are a bit insured against crashes and flyaways, unlike usual FPV drones! Wish you the best!

[@profit6268]

If i change my rates problem solved period cheaper solution

[@Rimzler]

Rates control how your stick input is applied to the drone linear commands, PID loops you cannot change them and they control the relationship between the gyro and ESC commands, the fault is there

[@juikabloth3993]

Algorithmus

[@TEKonTECH]

Hate to be a dudley downer, but how about flying the Cinewhoop like it was intended??? It's not an acro/race drone, yet you expect it to behave like one. That's on you👎

[@Rimzler]

DJI is a multi billion company yet can't make a drone that is tuned good, that's just lazy, small FPV companies are able to make Cinewhoops that fly so much better and can do everything, if I have to chose a drone to carry with me, I want it to be versatile

[@FlyturboKwad]

Yes DJI ... FULL CRAP... I can't believe you have 2 of them lol