AXLEBACK vs CATBACK EXHAUST COMPARISON! | 15-20 Subaru WRX

[@PhotodigmStudios]

Who's idea was it to put music over the video about how things sound?

[@yammmit]

Whose*

[@Mskaterkid2]

bruhhh I'm shocked. That axle back sounds so much better than I thought it would, and surprisingly (in my opinion) better than the invidia cat back

[@MarcosGarcia-xg1rf]

Sorry but I’m taking the axel back , cheaper and sounds clean

[@rayndog3]

I personally like the deeper tone over the loudness, that's why I went with the invidia catback myself.

[@WRXGarage]

Yes! Finally someone who likes the r400 more! Kyle's axleback is definitely more agressive..

[@chrissanchez8730]

WRXGarage Yes and the fact that you can build on top of it. Axle back limits u in that regard.

[@WRXGarage]

@@chrissanchez8730 you can still do a midpipe and down/j pipe with am axleback! Just need to make sure the flanges are compatible.

[@Notuser112]

@@WRXGarage do I need to tune the car if I get the r400 like just the car back with no j pipe

[@getrichtrying]

@@Notuser112 no

[@logansheppard3066]

The axle back wins for sure, definitely brings out the turbo spool sounds! I have axle backs on my 2017 and LOVE THEM! I get compliments all the time

[@claudetowers9629]

Which one do u have

[@logansheppard3066]

Claude towers subiedepot 4” single wall

[@Steve-qr2lm]

Why would an axle back bring out spool more than a cat back?

[@BLACKOMAMBO]

@@Steve-qr2lm he said the sound, no performance gain from axleback, and you could tell by the video

[@bradrogers4019]

@@BLACKOMAMBO i don't think either provide much in the way of gains. Need down pipe and perhaps headers and tune to see performance gains

[@Livetosucceed10]

sound quality was the invidia but for loudness the axle back

[@BaconNDCheese]

i love the deep throaty tone of the nvidia. Might not be as loud but a definite win for me

[@christianb7125]

I have the invidia and just cruising around sounds really nice

[@wilsonkasunga3358]

Sti wing all day I love the look

[@martelljp2878]

Earned yourself a subscriber! Can’t wait to get my 2020 WRX Base in the next couple of days!

[@WRXGarage]

What color and trim did you get!!

[@martelljp2878]

WRXGarage haven’t made my mind between WR Pearl Blue or Pearl White... and I picked the base trim but then I saw the premium performance package which got me thinking again lol. I haven’t signed anything yet but I do have the deal sheet pending for my signature lol

[@kyledinio7317]

Remark for loudness. Invidia for sound quality. Invidia gives a bassier tone. Guess it all depends on the budget. Could always go for axleback, and get the midpipe later down the road or just go straight for the catback. Question: Is either one of you planning on doing a turboback? If so, it would be a nice video to see in the future!!

[@WRXGarage]

Hey Kyle! I finally went for the GS jpipe paired with the invidia r400 catback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvcnKaqhaxkb5I

[@David-fp8mb]

Remark all the way.

[@Drazx3]

Just put the remark muffler delete on my spt exhaust and despite it being a CVT it sounds RIDICULOUS

[@AllanDelosReyes]

Thanks for the test now I can decide which exhaust I want.

[@erdinczor1]

Liked the video for the doggo in the intro

[@Wachofeo]

nice.. I think i'll get the catback for my 17' STI

[@impulseproman]

R400 catback deep over loud

[@The_Animal_Man]

I went with a full remark catback with with muffler deletes and a center resonator so it can be quieter with no restriction (before the cat) and it doesn't sound annoyingly loud just on cold-start

[@WRXGarage]

Can you send us a clip of your exhaust

[@hebegb1966]

Axle back, seriously thinking about getting one.

[@grumpachu]

Just bought myself a 2018 WRX. Came with a 3in axle back it’s pretty loud but it’s not DEEP. Need to unlock that boxer rumble.

[@WRXGarage]

Resonated midpipe will help!

[@cre8tivegarage157]

Glad we found your channel 😁 subscribed 👍🏽

[@maverickdorgan2843]

I have an Invidia N1. It was way too quiet until I got a catless downpipe

[@WRXGarage]

How do you like it now?

[@maverickdorgan2843]

@@WRXGarage it's great! Sounds very aggressive and its definitely not too loud. Smells like a racecar too haha

[@marcj.d]

What’s the difference between the double wall and single wall for the Remark Exhaust? Does it make it louder or are they just for the way they look?

[@WRXGarage]

Mostly for looks, but it does change the tone of the exhaust by a very small amount.

[@lootbag2405]

Looking at axel back exhaust on an otherwise stock , no tune, wrx... The stock exhaust is really quiet

[@WRXGarage]

Axleback exhausts are definitely a good way to add sound! Check out our channel, we have a couple different videos on different axleback options.

[@KyleBezemer]

For both exhausts: Any drone on the highway? I do a LOT of highway driving and am worried about that. Is it possible to keep the car quiet? I live in a Canadian suburb and don't want to disturb my neighbours

[@WRXGarage]

In terms of drone... Neither one is obnoxious at all. The axleback drones a bit more at a higher tone, but it's still manageable for sure... Also the same on cold starts, with the axleback being louder. You can get axlebacks that have mufflers in them too tho

[@uneven_haircut1861]

I like the right side wrx. Nice deep tone

[@paulmarsdensr8199]

The axel back sounds louder. The catback sounds dope as well. Good job guys 👍. I'm subscribing right now. I have a 2017 base model WRX aka (ocean blue) I added fog lights and a Vortex Generator from Frank's Irvine Subaru out here in California. Again good job guys.

[@WRXGarage]

Thanks man! We appreciate the support!!! Do you have any future mods planned?

[@paulmarsdensr8199]

@@WRXGarage No not really. I'm a retired Navy sailor and I'm blessed beyond belief. I'm going to get the STI after I pay off Ocean Blue. I really like our community. I am excited about the new design coming up. I like that Subaru put everything but the kitchen sink in the2020 WRX and STI

[@paulmarsdensr8199]

Get the RA wing that's on that STI. I think it looks cool.

[@user-ti6rg1sc5c]

Paul Marsden I just so happened to get an ra this week👍🏼

[@paulmarsdensr8199]

@@user-ti6rg1sc5c oh wow that's awesome man. You enjoy. Don't ever get rid of it 😂.

[@travisarkanna3375]

Keep the good content up guys liked and subd

[@WRXGarage]

Thanks Travis!!

[@mrbtc5721]

so for axleback i dont have to tune? sorry if stupid question i am new

[@WRXGarage]

No tune needed for axleback or catback

[@roshintroy1993]

Do you have the link for that axel back exhaust system??

[@shaggy6523]

Love the rumble of the invidia

[@peter_knowz_lifting]

Cat back wins hands down for sound quality. Ax back wins hands down for loudness.

[@cassandravanolinda158]

That feels so backwards. I thought the catback would be louder. The axel back sounds great. Would love a driveby video

[@WRXGarage]

Hi Cassandra! We have individual videos on each of the exhausts that have in cabin noise, revs, and flybys! The catback has 4 straightpass mufflers, and a resonator, while the axleback deletes the mufflers completely!

[@rthuang13]

Loud - remark, but sound quality gotta go with R400. I have the full j pipe and cat back r400. Gotta love that deep tone

[@WRXGarage]

Sick!! I've been thinking about doing the Cobb reasonated j pipe next month. Which do you have?

[@rthuang13]

WRXGarage I have invidia catted j pipe to the r400. If I could I would go with grimmspeed jpipe and match it with my r400.

[@WRXGarage]

I'd say that there's a bit more drone with the axleback, but both are very manageable. The r400's drone pretty much blends in with the road noise unless you're going over 85ish

[@WRXGarage]

Why GS over invidia?

[@thecarsavant]

rthuang13 why Grimmspeed over Invidia?

[@janicesanderson3310]

Axle Back 😝🤜🏽💥🤛🏼

[@Notuser112]

So all the cars have done to them is the axle back exhaust??

[@Notuser112]

And the cat back

[@WRXGarage]

At the time of this video, yes.

[@MorganBrown]

love the catback ;-)

[@DjRuBSP]

Both are good. Some days you want loud, while other days you want not so loud. I think drone should also be included in your testing. Duck bill all the way. Paint match or black would be sick. 👍👍👍

[@WRXGarage]

Thanks for the feedback Ruben! We have individual videos which go in depth on the in-cabin noise and drone of each. Definitely go check those out!

[@dulagaferhatovic1426]

My 2018 wrx had a straight pipe and I loved it, but tickets and living in quiet neighborhood I now have a GrimmSpeed Catted Jpipe and Invidia R400 catback and I love it as well but sometimes I miss the loudness and turbo whistle

[@WRXGarage]

How did you do the straight pipe? Muffler delete plus catless?

[@dulagaferhatovic1426]

WRXGarage yes muffler delete, stock midpipe, and Catted GrimmSpeed jpipe It wasn’t a true 3inch full straight pipe but close enough,

[@WRXGarage]

How do you like the GS j pipe? I'm currently debating between Cobb, GS and Invidia JP

[@dulagaferhatovic1426]

WRXGarage all 3 are good in my opinion, I just felt the quality and performance of the GrimmSpeed was above them, after all the research I did, I have a comparison pic of the j pipe and stock j pipe on my Instagram gugiwrx

[@dani390z]

Both sound sweet. I love the deep tone on the R400 :D cant believe some ppl say it sounds as stock LOL... I have Beyerdynamic DT770 headphones and the bass is awesome on them. I drive a 2003 Seat Toledo 20VT (I bet you dont even know this car) and I am undecided betweet axleback vs catback thats how I found your video. Guys at the store suggested I start with an axleback and later on I can add remaining parts if I want more power and sound gains.

[@WRXGarage]

Yes!!! Thank you Dani! (Kevin) Kyle is laughing at me because everyone likes his exhaust more. I think you can start with either a catback or axleback, but if you're looking for power gains, you'll definitely have to go for a downpipe (especially for turbocharged cars)

[@gerryallen1036]

Sound quality winner, for sure the silver suby

[@xcertified_d5907]

Do you guys know what is such a extreme loud exhaust? I mostly just want an exhaust for the loudness

[@WRXGarage]

Tomei

[@loveii5481]

Honestly I prefer the cat back I love the tone of the invidia in my opinion

[@NatureXwars]

I'm quite torn between the two, on one hand I think the axleback suits the WRX more to hear the rawness of the engine, on the other hand I think the catback elevates the car's prestigeness to make it feel more comparable to higher end sports cars.

[@WRXGarage]

Absolutely agree! It's all down to everyone's personal opinion, but I do think that resonated catbacks have an overall more sophisticated sound.

[@maciwinski601]

Remark baby!

[@playname4331]

Where’d you get the carbon fiber duckbill? That looks sick I need one to complete my exterior mods

[@WRXGarage]

Hey Raul! I actually bought it from a friend. It's the Rexspeed CF duckbill spoiler. Our buddies at ImportImageRacing definitely have se options to choose from too!

[@juanjoy5022]

Hey guys would the remark axle back muffler deletes fit the invidia exhaust or no

[@WRXGarage]

Invidia downpipe and midpipe?

[@OmegaXIIV]

Check out the perrin gunny spoiler.... I think that's what it's called. Looks amazing

[@SpecOpsDad]

The R400 sounds like the STP factory upgrade exhaust

[@TheWoundedNinja]

Shows Exhaust* music in the background*

[@andrewparson9832]

i have the remark axle backs and there nice, I'm also straight piped and it's insanely loud. If you do run a down pipe with the remarks, i would definitely get a resonated mid pipe, lots of drone.

[@WRXGarage]

That's what I've been telling Kyle!!

[@robinjohansson5365]

hi, can u explain to an exhaustnoob what "drone" is? :)

[@andrewparson9832]

@@robinjohansson5365 It's basically a loud humming noise that comes from the exhaust, usually when your on the freeway. Imagine a bumble bee flying around inside your car constantly,. Don't know if that helps at all.

[@ImportRacerBM3]

catback sounds better at lower/mid rpm, but the axleback sounds better at 7k rpm. axelback is louder over all. and as far as the aero goes, i’d do a moderately sized GT wing

[@jacobk9920]

The silver one barely sounds like it has an exhaust

[@WRXGarage]

Try listening with headphones! The microphone changed its setting so it didn't pickup some of the tonal range

[@3zkimo479]

Question for Kyle; tune for that thing or no?

[@WRXGarage]

No tune on either car in this video.

[@MJ-cz1mj]

Where did you get your duckbill wing

[@WRXGarage]

It's by Rexpeed. Bought it from a friend but I'm pretty sure you can find it on subispeed or ImportImageRacing

[@howarddavis8451]

As far as tone the catback is deeper and richer. But tge louder one is the axleback.

[@peterraps857]

Went Cobb Cat Back on my silver one 2018. My blue one is still stock 2019. May just wait for the new STI.

[@suba-dude5516]

Im thinking Cobb in my 20, any issues?

[@KingDilanco]

Varis wing even a copy looks dope

[@fignewton8667]

do either of you have a tune done or are those stock maps?

[@WRXGarage]

In this video both are on stock maps

[@chrisloya6988]

Catback i too like the deeper tone of the invidia

[@satanthedeity]

does kyle have an intake or turbo back (j pipe)?

[@WRXGarage]

No neither

[@chriscarle9982]

I personally love the axle back. Just because I love that loudness . I think when doing an exhaust you definitely go for sound, but the r400 does sound good , when driving . I won’t like the drone when I do my axle back but fuck it

[@Joseph-ro3el]

are axle backs legal

[@WRXGarage]

Completely depends on where you live! For the most part, exhaust laws are barely ever enforced, even in California. There are stock cars approved by the EPA that don't meet certain states regulations, and the states still sell them. At the end of the day, as long as you're car isn't absolutely obnoxious and you're not driving like a jerk, you should be fine.

[@VeeDragon22]

The axel back sounds louder but the overall sound quality I prefer the catback

[@Cbwifey215]

I ordered the remark today

[@burhanuddin7782]

The blue won the sound and quality but that duck wing is amazing on the silver one😍😍 what it's called that wing please discription?

[@WRXGarage]

Rexspeed carbon fiber duckbill!

[@burhanuddin7782]

@@WRXGarage Thank you very much!!

[@trentwohlrabe7813]

love u guys video to bad u guys ain’t closer i could join u guys with my red wrx

[@roymilla6636]

Still like the cat back quite and has pops

[@joshuagarza2899]

I definitely like the axle back much better that’s what I have planned for my 2107, but I also have a question did either one of y’all do a tune after you did your exhaust work?

[@WRXGarage]

Hey Josh, for any kind of exhaust mods on these cars other than the downpipe/jpipe, you do not require a tune. I don't think even a protune with these parts, would add any noticeable power... With the catback, maybe 5-10hp only because of the increased diameter of the piping. But the only real power difference will come from the dp/jpipe

[@joshuagarza2899]

WRXGarage I kinda guessed that I was just curious if you guys did or not, both of y’all cars look great. I personally went with the dark grey paint, with the blacked out interior.

[@javiconga]

The blue one👍

[@benivalentine1489]

cat back sounds way cleaner....axle back was louder

[@prodigioustortuga1107]

I liked the sound of the right more.

[@eduardobautista6999]

I switch to the r400 because is not too loud but it sounds way smoother than the crap remark...i use to have remark and sounded like a broken civic lol

[@blakewatt7936]

Kyles! Only because I just ordered a remark axle back yesterday for my 19 wrx 😂😂😂

[@WRXGarage]

Nice! Which did you get?

[@blakewatt7936]

WRXGarage hey! I got the 3.5 inch single wall. I’m nervous they might be a little too loud but we’ll see how it goes. It sounds like it’s pretty loud for a minute when you start it cold but it gets quieter as it warms up. Love your car btw!

[@WRXGarage]

It won’t be too loud it’s perfect, even my girlfriend likes it lol

[@blakewatt7936]

WRXGarage okay fair, can’t argue with those answers 😂😂😂😂

[@trentwohlrabe7813]

blakewatt what u got to do is take ur muffler off and drive like that for a day. i’ve been driving mine this that for three months now lol

[@MrTeddlpounds]

I like GT big wing but realize this is an old video

[@tommanning7337]

I think the delete is louder, as far as wing or duckbill, if mine didn’t come with a wing I might lean towards a duckbill only because it doesn’t attract as much attention but I do really love the wing, it all comes down to personal preference. But if ya did go with a duckbill I’d go with color match. That’s just me😁

[@WRXGarage]

Thanks for the recommendation I like the paint match duckbill as well

[@tommanning7337]

WRXGarage something aggressive would be a Battle Aero duckbill, those things look amazing

[@fireball0845]

I got a wing and it gets a lot of attention I kinda want to get a differ trunk to swap every once a while

[@jaybosher6144]

Kyle's sounds nice but I wonder how it is irl for daily use as well as highway driving

[@WRXGarage]

No drone at all and highway driving you can barely hear it at 3k rpm but if your trying to speed up you can hear it nicly

[@jasonmckinney1060]

Sound quality on Cat back is way nicer.

[@franklynlopez7326]

Music kinda killed the vibe for me. But honestly both cars sound good

[@misterwub1438]

Aye I live in Connecticut and am trying to decide on what I'm doing to my impreza

[@xvnw]

8 months late but do u have just the Impreza or the wrx

[@yeahyourerightheresmystupi5352]

@@xvnw most people who have a wrx don’t have Impreza in their vocabulary

[@xvnw]

@@yeahyourerightheresmystupi5352 that’s true 😂

[@brianmitcheal4578]

Lol all I could hear is the wind for the sliver subie

[@WRXGarage]

😂 trust me.. you can hear it in person. Especially when it pops between shifts

[@zachstence7948]

I'd say objectively the axleback sounds so good, but in terms of daily driving, I'd probably go with the quieter catback. On that note, does the Invidia catback produce a drone in the cabin? I really love the exhaust tone but I'm worried about that. Also about that 1080, hit me up

[@WRXGarage]

Go check out our full review of the r400 if you're curious about the in cabin sound! There is a tiny bit of drone, but to be honest its pretty unnoticeable. It's still easy to have conversations even at highway speeds. The "drone" is quieter than the road/wind noise.

[@rayndog3]

I feel like I had more drone with axlebacks. I've got the invidia N1 dual now, much less drone. My opinion

[@MrTheurucan]

Is it possible to install uel headers ?

[@WRXGarage]

It is! I believe perrin or killer b make UELs for the FA20, though it would actually make the engine less reliable and cause some other issues.

[@EulogizingSleep]

The 2/4 cylinder will hate you and you’ll be susceptible to all the same issues the previous gens had

[@MrTeddlpounds]

Turbo spool comes through better with muffler delete

[@ivanknockwood3737]

Grey one for sure!!!

[@Rough-inevitable]

Duckbill does not look very gd on that model wrx. Id say go sti unless you got got a fast wrx than get gt wing. Just my 2c

[@robbyhoonigan7760]

Good video , I build pcs too ! I cant wait to get my remark exhaust for my 2019 wrx

[@WRXGarage]

Awesome!! What's your PC setup?

[@WRXGarage]

Hell yeah! Kevin's rocking a 7700k with 240mm rad, gtx 1080, 32g Corsair ram, on a msi 270 sli pro atx running on a 2k monitor

[@marcjones5862]

Robby Hoonigan me too! 9900k, 2080 super all on water ;)

[@WRXGarage]

@@marcjones5862 Damn Marc! i really need to up my game.

[@marcjones5862]

WRXGarage haha couldn’t help myself

[@Boot_14]

Axel back it's a cleaner sound. Best way to describe Axel back = exhaust sounds 🔥 Cat back = sounds like an exhaust problem lol.also feel like your gonna get different sounds from different cars like I have a q50 and I only have axel back exhaust and it sounds like a GTR obv not one but sounds just like one

[@knurri]

50" tv?? What a baller!!!

[@WRXGarage]

😂 he actually got a 65 I think

[@Dirtracing141]

Remark all the way on all

[@HellaFish]

Remark axle back is by far way better sounding.

[@bubba2692]

3 minutes into the video I realized this is west side field 😂 I lived on east street for 15 years

[@WRXGarage]

🤣

[@bubba2692]

Sent u a message on insta

[@edreans]

should have done a drive bys as well

[@zietbukuel]

TBH I like the Axlback sound more.

[@berkfamily54]

Just subbed. I have a 2015 WRX base! Gonna checkout your 500 sub giveaway! I’m at 644 right now but I talk mostly about comic books! Also, I’d go with an GT wing over any of the others

[@berkfamily54]

That catback sounds stock. I would sell and upgrade man

[@drewllicious]

YOOO LET ME HAVE THAT GTX 1080 I need it

[@leighcole9770]

Axle back sounds better and is much louder. If the cat back system had no resonator it would be a different story.

[@bambambino23]

I like the blue one way better

[@JoeisLemons]

Why play music in an exhaust video

[@WRXGarage]

I thought we paused the music when the exhaust notes started tbh.. not sure why it didn't save that way.

[@vancevance6864]

Axleback wins, only because the catback was resonated and has the mini mufflers

[@mr.armada8130]

Silver car wins all around. Blue one sounds cheap like the mufflers fell off

[@V8orNoCar]

I wanted a wrx but I didn’t want to do car payments so I just bought a 2014 Camry SE with cash instead.

[@MarcosGarcia-xg1rf]

That sucks, getting my WRX next week