WRX VS STI Exhaust Comparison (ELH VS UEL) [4k]

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

For the commenters: Intake or Exhaust?

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

I love that induction noise! so intake if i had to choose one

[@grassbag1]

exhaust homie

[@Menace_sti]

Turbo spools 100x over exhaust

[@AtlantaGeorgia404]

Exhaust for the STI, Intake for the WRX.

[@Jay-zd7vp]

both! but if i had to chose intake. on turbo cars they sound so good

[@astrogennucleic5835]

In NO way does the WRX sound bad but that STi makes me smile

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

yeah the wrx sounds great. Pretty low key actually when daily. (Sounds stock until you get on it). The sti is so distinctive though!

[@silent_chill_4751]

@@alecm2721 is possible to put UEL headers on a WRX?

[@rainyfields]

@@silent_chill_4751 Yes, Tomei makes UEL headers for the FA engine. You loose HP, torque, and MPG and basically all the benefit of the twin scroll turbo with them. If that doesn't bother you, go ahead. If you want a WRX that sounds like an EJ, you should really get the STI or an older WRX instead (they are cheaper and look better anyways imo), it does seem a bit silly to make the FA engine worse in every way just to make it sound better... though that lack of rumble *is* the only reason I would never buy a newer WRX lol.

[@silent_chill_4751]

@@rainyfields yea I decided to just keep the headers stock, its a shame Subaru got rid of the iconic sound on the FA, but it is what it is

[@jamesleithren3241]

@Adam West the difference is in the headers, the sti motor (ej) is different than the wrx motor(fa) the ej comes with unequal length headers from factory while the fa20 comes with equal length headers. Unequal length headers are less efficient but gives it that really low growl or rumble, equal length headers are more efficient and give a more consistent “even” tone

[@305quanyboi]

That rumble is so beautiful

[@ChloeG1984]

The rumble was one of the things that made the wrx so endearing. There's no point without the rumble.

[@stancemedia4727]

Jdm wrx are ELH better performance. UELH is American and these cars are Japanese lol do the math here

[@woodyscrappyopenings5707]

"There's a lot of cars passing by" One car passes lmao

[@Sk8ingCheese32]

Wrx engine sounds like it’s running healthier lol

[@zafar.c63s]

Fernando the fa20 motors are beast

[@SukhoiWolf]

@@zafar.c63s especially with that twin scroll turbo setup

[@mk6_juan23]

Zafar Khalilov not really lol

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

With that crackle tune, I doubt

[@INumba1Stunna]

STi sounds 20 times better. I need a car that loud pls. Sign me up. The WRX does sound nice tho with all the crackles. :)

[@Dankshortzzz]

both of them shits sound hella nice

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

lol thank you!

[@makaveli3]

I like the STI more, sounds like a V8, however the WRX can sound good with certain exhaust setups like yours

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

thank you, i agree with you on the sound of the STi.

[@makaveli3]

say, have you ever heard the N1 on the WRX? I'm thinking of getting it but not sure

[@Cb_30]

Does that burble tune come with the acessport or from a shop?

[@ballenwallen]

_Makaveli I'm running full invidia catless with the dual n1 and I love the sound. Quiet for daily and loud when WOT

[@makaveli3]

damn thats what i like to hear, so hyped to get mine

[@guillermosanchez2783]

I had a WRX, but the sound of the STI was what made me buy the STI at the end of 2017. Long live the rumble! It's a category in cars by itself with that. Is the reason why the Type-R disappeared from the question when I was purchasing the car. The STI is an awesome car. I love it and the sensation it returns to the driver it's years light ahead of the WRX that I had. I will never buy a twin scroll turbo again. If STI loses the rumble I'll keep mine until one of us die. It's incredible that having developed something as good as that sound Subaru numbed the WRX. Ferrari doesn't offer manual transmission anymore and sells, but to me, a 512 TR or the 355 Berlinetta manuals would be the ones. I prefer a Porsche 911 Turbo from the '90s to the current one. The last 911R is "the" recent Porsche to me. That to give perspective on my choice. The STI is not the fastest car in its group but to me is the one that delivers happiness to the driver unlike no other.

[@jumboslice8328]

🤙

[@SpencerHogg]

Very nice bro, both sound amazing

[@gregg7363]

The STI iconic boxer rumble is the only thing I miss from my wrx wagon. I'd be in heaven if my FA WRX sounded like the STI in the video. The closest I've come to an original Subaru rumble on my WRX is the Grimmspeed Catless J pipe to a non resonated Invidia R400 catback. Deep and basey, heavy drone and very minimal rasp.

[@Stancedude1]

Damn Im seriously saving up as much as I can working at McDonald’s 😭

[@Riley.Ruppert]

Venir Lekha you can do it! Just keep workin and you’ll get there!!

[@STI.Ricardito]

Venir Lekha damn

[@toddhamlin9439]

bro you got it. I work at walmart and am deadass saving up enough for a decent down payment. Like at least 2k but going for 3k or more by summer next year. Prob getting 18 WRX Prem.

[@STI.Ricardito]

Todd Hamlin you should save up at least 10-15k in your bank, insurance is expensive.

[@toddhamlin9439]

@@STI.Ricardito 3 or so k should be fine for down payment. My credit is pretty good and the monthly payment is looking to be around $400/month

[@R33C3.]

I bet the neighbours love these cars XD

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

haha, my car is quiet, THAT STi THOUGH! That thing is a beast

[@DIESTAR2010]

R33C3 both of em sound great tbh I love hearing subies 😂

[@blazers12369]

cant beat that turbo noise

[@moisescristobal6]

brian sylvester whine sounds like a old Honda going in reverse

[@stancemedia4727]

@@Hellogoodsir-x9b supercharger sounds garbage and turbo can make more power lol

[@Krayzieboy99]

Me personally i like the not obnoxious WRX has, but both are good...

[@priusgame1178]

First sat passenger in an '04. Hella nice interior and fun to ride in for wherever you want to go in it. Hella nice car

[@Jay-zd7vp]

The STi definitively sounds a lot cooler, but a bit loud for daily duties. #rumble

[@Jay-zd7vp]

Good for a weekend car though, i feel that kind of setup isn't for a daily

[@FreshAndSimple]

Or maybe get a different exhaust? Because the STI is basically straight piped with muffler and resonator delete.

[@jdm132]

Nicolas A just removing the resonater, which is part of the exhaust system

[@ianholmquist8492]

The stock sti exhaust is super quiet. You practically have to put your mouth over the tailpipe to tell it's running. If you want it quiet just leave it stock

[@santoslorenz]

I've always dream of having an Subie that rumbles like that... Hopefully in the future 🙌🙌🙌

[@davemontoya9258]

Just ordered invidia catless down pipe and R400 and I can’t wait

[@wheressu]

Imma go with the STI. That deep rumble is unmatched.

[@kkdogg2011]

I Love this. We do the same...Considering a '19 STi just for the unequal sound. But also hoping for a 2.4L new motor for the 2020 STi. What a dilemma...both sound great...love the crackle on the WRX but have to go old school and vote for the STi.

[@Zoso714]

smashed that like!!! bro it was so cool meeting you just now. keep up with the vids. the car sounds awesome thanks for showing it to me!

[@HoeLeeFuQQ]

Not cuz I have a STi but the RUMBLE all day. It’s a unique sound, u can identify anywhere “Oh that’s a subie” it just sound amazing in my opinion. Yes that means I choose Ringland Failure over the “new FA” anyway good video and sound👍🏽

[@airjordan2604]

HoeLeeFuQQ I drive an older wrx and people always say shit about ringland failure but don’t realize all you really need todo is take care of your car and maintain it well and it won’t happen! I love the classic ej. Although the the FA is more efficient, it just takes away from what the wrx and sti originally was under the hood.

[@HoeLeeFuQQ]

AiR JoRdaN agreed. both are great cars in their own ways

[@airjordan2604]

HoeLeeFuQQ just an FYI your car is sick man! Just took a peep at your channel I love the red.

[@HoeLeeFuQQ]

AiR JoRdaN thanks bro really appreciate you stopping by my channel. Love subies always been my dream car.😊👍🏽

[@ragalyisp]

I have no videos of my subie in its final form. Didn't last long. That old 5 speed was too weak. Next I'll start with an Sti...

[@BrianLiu]

Rewatching this video, and realized you're located in Elk Grove. Heyoo

[@JavonEvansJavoTheGeek]

“That Efficiency!” Killed me HAHA

[@grimey5.565]

That efficiency yo! I like my fa20. And an aggressive yet subtle exhaust too!

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

bettter mpg and faster. can't be that : )

[@grimey5.565]

@@JohnNguyenVincent Nice ride man. Looks really good.

[@AtlantaGeorgia404]

I've had both a 2017 WRX and a 2017 STI. Rumble all day everyday. The WRX sounds like every other turbo 4 out there.

[@HotHatchSi]

AtlantaGeorgia404 had a 2011 wrx and immediately got rid of the restrictive and harmful uel headers lmao

[@whatiwant8898]

AtlantaGeorgia404 I don't understand why everyone insists it sounds like "every other 4 cylinder out there." The FA20DIT still sounds a different than an inline 4.

[@AtlantaGeorgia404]

@WhatIWant - I said it sounds like every TURBO 4 out there. I had a supercharged 8th gen Civic that sounded just like my WRX. The more I think about it, I lied because the SRT4 sounded pretty good, although I think it had no mufflers from the factory. I traded in my WRX because I needed that rumble in my life.

[@whatiwant8898]

AtlantaGeorgia404 and I have a friend that had a turbo 8th gen Si, catless with just a muffler, and it was more high pitched than the WRX. The WRX still has a deeper tone to it than other turbo 4s.

[@Flat_3_6]

WhatIWant yeah agreed, the FA sounds like a boxer not like an inline 4 lol

[@125raydah3]

Nice comparison, bro.. Thumbs up 👍

[@Retro8itmods]

Why do people always say it’s the motor... it’s the elh vs the uel. Elh sti sounds the same lol

[@ScOpEzFrosty]

Noel Hernandez no they have completely different motors

[@SuitOne]

@@ScOpEzFrosty That doesn't mean completely different sound. The rumble comes from the headers. An EJ with ELH sounds practically the same as an FA20.

[@l5248]

@@SuitOne The engine must make some difference, because I've yet to hear a BRZ with UEL headers that sounds like this STI. But yes, UEL headers are the sole reason of rumble.

[@SuitOne]

@@l5248 BRZ's also run boxer engines. The difference most likely comes from the fact that they aren't turbocharged. Turbos muffle exhaust very noticably, and enrich and deepen sound.

[@l5248]

@@SuitOne Yeah, I guess that's why every video of a BRZ exhaust with a UEL header sounds like a rattly Civic.

[@kaguraspoon750]

Sti always but thats the nicest sounding wrx i heard with the pop tune

[@islandboypopo]

I have had both the Q300 and the ETS Extreme on the STI. At first , the Q300 was way too quiet, so I switched to the ETS and was impressed. Then I got an Invidia catless dp as well and it's obnoxious af now. I feel bad for the neighbors :( It's a demanding car to drive every day. Sometimes I just want to blend in lol

[@Boosted_aj]

I want a complete straight pipe with UEL headers. BUT I want it out of titanium for the massive weight savings. Loud is proud.

[@anthonycoffey4699]

So I know the newer gen 2015+ Subaru runs a twin scroll turbo and it dosent allow for the unequal length exhaust that gives the subarus that boxer rumble its known for... does that only apply to the new wrx? Does the new sti still have unequal exhaust? Or do you just buy aftermarket to get that sexy rumble?

[@christianjeanbaptiste1994]

Anthony Coffey the new sti still has the ulh bc it still uses the older ej engine while the new wrx has a twinscroll turbo on the fa20 so it has equal length headers. if you want to get the dumb all you would have to do it get ulh and a different turbo

[@chocOneOOne]

Ron didn't give me a crackle tune...didn't even realize such thing existed

[@JotaJotaSTI]

They both sound nice!

[@lucrus25]

Best sounding fa wrx I’ve heard

[@nigelholland1714]

With headphones the wrx does have a rumble to it. It's just higher pitched because of the headers. The firing order still gives it thag sound it just sounds way more higher pitched because if doesn't have UEL

[@eraseone84]

I have a 2016 wrx can you give me the list on what I need to install to sound like that sti?

[@nickslosubi690]

I have owned both now and I can say the STI is my favorite from the two but the WRX got great gas mileage 🤔

[@latenightclouds]

May I know which subie has the fa20 engine? And is it the same with the 14-18 Forester XT Fa20, right?

[@R3drax]

they both sound great, love them both...

[@dtr_dropnbodiez5517]

Both are dope. But like everyone sti sounds the best. Only thing I miss is the rumble when I’m driving my wrx.

[@cebastienlarochelle8182]

The rumble is nice but the equal length mainfold sounds smoother. It’s more japanese, less american.

[@D3layNoMore]

Tomei > R400 on the STi. STi on R400 = drone city. If you get the Tomei however, it's better to get a catted down pipe since catless is obnoxious

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

i had no idea, tomei for sure then

[@XBL2197]

Jorgen Von Strangle Tomei For sure with Catted DP paired to it

[@rcravincase]

I miss the stock turbo noise, but love my 20g

[@BRedFilms]

Wrx sounds more JDM...but that Rumble is just....unique

[@JudeDude409]

But what if the WRX deleted its muffler, would it sound as near to the STI?? Or am I wrong? I love cars but I’m not too familiar with the mechanics and stuff.

[@duncanmcgee13]

Twig the muffler only changes the volume of the exhaust note. Its the headers and amount of cylinders that change its tone. In this case, the STi runs unequal length headers which are known for making cars rumble, doesnt matter what car theyre on. The WRX runs equal length headers like every other car you seebon the road, making it slightly higher pitched like those cars.

[@Stewbob112]

So, any tickets for either of you for your exhausts? I’m looking at the AWE Track Edition for my ‘19 STi Limited.

[@Ethereal745]

Depends how you drive, I'm rocking an ETS Extreme no res and I gotta say im loud as fuck but the most trouble I had was a chp staring at me for a few seconds and a speeding ticket for 77 in a 65 (end of the month cop quota) but I think AWE MIGHT be louder than ETS

[@simplybuiltgarage]

U guys should completely swap full headers turbo and exhaust from sti to wrx to c how the new wrx sounds with it.

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

That's a lot of money.

[@Gin81593]

Was that phillip from "ayeitsphillip"?

[@BlazedtotheMax]

Y’all from Sacramento? 100% sure I just seen that blue wrx with the carbon fiber trunk and gt spoiler today

[@BlisterThunderbolt]

The STI doesn’t sound like a four cylinder..

[@joshb7439]

Is the Sti in world rally blue? It looks like it would be but my friend has a wrx in that color and the colors look really different.

[@ianholmquist8492]

Yeah that's wr blue. I have one in lapis blue pearl and mine is more purple

[@Highupp]

How can a wrx get the rumble? Would in equal length headers with a straight pipe do it?

[@theblackmambaplague]

So, will there ever be a way to make the Wrx fa20 sound deep and throaty like the sti?

[@ianholmquist8492]

Nope, many have tried

[@QuantumAruaaa]

The wrx only bc that turbo sound the wrx just sounds so much more smooth and it just seems like the sti is just ode loud asf even tho i like loud the wrx is a clean loud

[@AndresGuamanquispe-hy4vw]

hello what they're called escape I want for my w

[@Drxpzsedenuff]

I dont mean to sound dumb or anything but when they say tune do they mean a tune-up or a dyno tune?

[@lordrayquaza9006]

Challenger is like my dream car, buttttttt, these Subies are a close 2nd, they're so freaking nice!

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

respect for both cars. The subaru gets a lot of thumbs up from the community.

[@lordrayquaza9006]

John Nguyen heck yeah man, and definitely a big thumbs up from me!

[@jayzo0o]

Both are beautiful but rumble wins all day.

[@bills5378]

That boomba bpv 😍😍😍

[@iHykt]

STi clean asf , just got a c300 Benz at 18 but I want a STi when I’m 20 or 21

[@lordprettyflvcko9580]

X who gives a fuck

[@adrianastro1]

@@lordprettyflvcko9580 chill

[@pjeter.]

Id trade in the c300 for a wrx and tune it

[@playerpst]

burble tune wrx exhaust FTW

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

SNAP CRACKLE POP!

[@QTTR0JET]

I got burble tune on my 15 sti...damn them rumble Pops!!

[@almightyjacuab1656]

What did he get for a resonator delete?? How did he do it?? I’m thinking about an exhaust setup for my STI. I’m thinking about tomei or a muffler and resonator delete to have quad tips. Both cars look and sound great btw

[@Mrlolibre]

Probably took it to a muffler shop and had them cutoff the stock resonator and weld a straight pipe in its place.

[@ivanurietaflores9390]

El azulito si pasa las verificaciones?

[@kinraashenbert9888]

Thats Cal State Fullerton! Where do u guys do ur car meets?

[@brandontaylor21]

The Q300 still has big mufflers. Should've got nameless muffler deletes or invidia N1 if you wanted a better comparison. Muffler deletes are definitely going to be louder though

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

for me louder isn't better

[@brandontaylor21]

@@JohnNguyenVincent of course, but the video seems to only compare loudness. I have the invidia N1 and they're not bad at idle or regular driving, loud cold starts, and really open up at high rpm. I'm sure you're kind of like me and care about your neighbors, and that's why I didn't go with a muffler delete

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

yeah, the invidia resonator really cleans up the ugly noises.

[@MenoProductions]

So if I had the same setup the sti had on a wrx ,well it sound the same ?

[@jacob9934]

Meno G no they have different motors

[@saturnanomaly951]

Both awesome :)

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

thanks my dude!

[@MrMatt_Gray]

I thought this model only came as one variation ? Not wrx or STI just wrx sti? Looking to purchase one so would love to know to make sure I buy correctly

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

You would be right. There is WRX and WRX STI.

[@MrMatt_Gray]

@@JohnNguyenVincent have either of you had your 2.5 engine forged?

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

I'm not sure, both of our internals are stock. (i'm not sure if the wrx sti's are forge)

[@MrMatt_Gray]

@@JohnNguyenVincent neither will come forged as standard. In UK we have lots of issues of the pistons failing as they aren't forged. Worth looking into as the 2.5 engine is horrendous. May be different in the USA but I believe Subaru recently admitted it's a problem.

[@asuma473]

Is there a way to get that sti rumble in a 17 wrx? Got the wrx due to finances at the time but definitely want that deep tone that the sti's got.

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

not an easy way. It's not worth it.

[@streamsniper-db9ni]

Why tf that wrx turbo so nice and out there but sti don't sound like that

[@jokerboi526]

i will never stray from STi muffler delete, but that crackle on the wrx sounds SO SO NASTY!

[@brandnewcountry]

What kind of exhaust did you put in that wrx? Sounds fresh

[@minhdang6570]

Hi bro I want install the down pipe but the check engine light is on what should I do for it off I need help bro let me know thanks please

[@beaves9659]

Minh Dang you need to get a tune due to the increased airflow due to the dump pipe being changed.

[@1ulixez]

Red looks Super! But ... STI all the way :)

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

Hahah fine!

[@xchrisxwoodsx]

What headlights are on the wrx?!?!

[@takeda1648]

Christian Woods its the subispeed headlights v1 or v2

[@mattixmatusiak5618]

What wheels are on the wrx??👌🏼

[@MrTheurucan]

Why is wrx el and sti uel ?

[@kuyaanthonyy]

I honestly don't know much about engines but is there anyway to make the new wrx have rumble

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

you have to change to a traditional turbo and change the header

[@wingtam7197]

Hi , I want to o know ,WRX use which one blow off value, the sound so good,Thx

[@legoguy5944]

My guess is boomba. If you havent had this answered yet

[@edwinbermudes6559]

The sti sounds like a mix of v8 and v6

[@brucef9859]

That 1000 dollar ticket in California for modified exhaust 😯 omg

[@MrGoodman333]

How can I get my exhaust to pop like the WRX?

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

get a tune, or just muffle deletes

[@MrGoodman333]

John Nguyen how much is a tune for that

[@ckennedy9901]

Nice video, both cars sound good but I really feel like this video was made for FA owners to be able to sleep better at night. I mean you even mentioned the STI owner thinks the FA sounds "weird" there is a reason one is 10 grand cheaper. In reality though the 2.0 sounds weak even for a boxer, regardless which exhaust but I would take a FA over a shit ass BRZ anyday. Hands down the EJ sounds way more beefy. Don't get me wrong I'm all for loving whatever car you own but for that neck breaking raw Subaru sound comes from an EJ not a FA no matter how hard you try or whoever's STI trunk you swapped with. People that went the FA route spends countless internet hours trying to justify why they bought a FA over an EJ and no matter how much money you dump into your FA or how much faster you make the FA over the EJ. It will never hold the EJ title or sound.

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

truer words have never been said until now.

[@John.Quiterio]

The brz has an FA tho... so you would rather take an FA over a brz makes no sense unless you say a turbo’d FA over a N/A FA...

[@xXxUrbanNinjaxXx]

Lmao uel brz sounds amazing don’t hate fam

[@fradgyt]

This shit is tough ! i love the 2 sounds but i may be leaning to the WRX (Those pops broo)

[@Smerdzy]

That STi had no exhaust setup, basically. If he had added a dp + tune & intake. He could get those pops. Even just a tune for it without adding other mods. My wrx pops and bangs without a downpipe or tune. Just running a catback with a CAI.

[@412subaru7]

What BPV do you have, the flutter sounds so good!!!!!!!!!

[@NeekoKid]

412 Subaru he has boomba bpv if you want that flutter you need to get a cold air intake

[@412subaru7]

swaggolass My car is FBO w the Boomba BPV and the flutter isnt that good lol

[@NeekoKid]

412 Subaru what cold air intake do you have?

[@412subaru7]

swaggolass Cobb. I mean it does flutter for surs, just not like that one. I have a loud exhaust also, that may be part of it lol

[@NeekoKid]

412 Subaru maybe lol this guy has a pretty tame exhaust on his

[@orbitalbullycamp6121]

Which one is better for daily/race car and still reliable

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

wrx by far

[@crislanderos6396]

Hey bro just found your channel had a quick question is driving a stick shift really bad in Los Angeles?

[@AnthonyLopez-dj4lf]

WRX is great but it’s disappointing that equal length headers don’t give it the rumble like the STI 🥲🥲

[@xbxspartan]

the reason why i love subaru. STi for the win. uelh always sound better, just take care of the ej and it will take care of you. both are sick though.

[@AnythingGoesJoJo]

make sense cause the STI is running an older engine where as the WRX has the newer engine

[@aranapereiraalvaromauricio6939]

its a wrx or a evolution?... we never know... love de STI rumble

[@dogdog4173]

Can I run that exhaust with a catless dp

[@druyay69]

My ears tell me UEL, but my logic tells me EL because more power and that’s what the race cars run.

[@simplylifestyle6527]

Exhaust goes to sti but turbo noise on that wrx tho

[@AznDude18]

Where do you get the crackle tune!?

[@delorianmateas1650]

Whats the sti setup?

[@jessechen724]

I LOVE my WRX and the gas mileage is more affordable but the STI EJ motor will always sound better. Always.