Killing Enemies? Overrated | In-Depth Jingliu Guide | Honkai: Star Rail

[@L2H2L2]

Finally, Star Rail’s first 1v9 Hypercarry

[@LisaraScarlet]

LMAO

[@jin8982]

What does 1v9 mean?

[@prawnhub357]

@@jin8982 jingliu will literally kill her team too if u didnt have any supports to heal🤣 so its essentially 1v9 lmao

[@ShinyeyesT]

​@@jin8982It's a term originating from Moba games ( Dota, League of Legends) where there are 5 team members on each side. A character/player 1v9-ing is refered to them requiring to not only overcome their opponents but also to overcome their own teammates' incompetence (hence the 9 other people in the game). It's a "me vs the world" thing.

[@kamitik7283]

@@ShinyeyesTreal question, is there any moba game that making 1v9 kit? like if done correctly your team would win

[@MisterHeadphones73]

"We all have to sacrifice and it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make." -JingLiu to her teammates probably

[@shwedoo-6035]

Watching dreamy's guides and anyone else's is like night and day. You can feel the amount of effort that has been put in them. It has been a pleasure to watch, as always.

[@e554]

the amount of what this has "one of the comments of all time" energy

[@shwedoo-6035]

@@e554 I am starting to forget whole words, truly an experience for me

[@fulnaz3164]

"Enemies cant kill my party if I kill them first" - Jing Liu probably

[@Jyxero]

Imagine being here instead of Acheron guide... Needed a reminder of why can't see 1 vs 9 numbers yet; thanks Have a great day Dreamy

[@RenjiX24]

There are many day 1 HSR guides.....there where many pre day one Jingliu guides xD but this, this one is my favorite. Ever since I have been saving for her the only thing I could not wait for more than Jingliu release was Dreamy's Day one guide

[@Dunkerque351]

Thank you for the more in-detail look of Jingliu's interactions with various supports as well as the in-depth rotations/SP requirements/speed breakpoints. I've watched a lot of other guides and I wanted more than the somewhat surface level "Ah yes Bronya good." Living up to the "In-depth" that you put in the title.

[@TapJegi]

that multiplication trick is really cool and useful! I was trying to figure out ways to solve my imbibitor team's sp issue and allow bailu to solo sustain at the same time. With this trick she can be sp positive and cast her ultimate very frequently, allowing her to spam ult on cooldown. Thank you, Dreamy!

[@satsukimirai7908]

Thanks for the guide dreamy! Been waiting for her along with your guide

[@darian9077]

the voice-over pronouncing Syzygy different each time is truly the cherry on top of this great guide

[@Sskysnake]

I am glad u did a guide on her. Your content is top notch, keep up the good work!

[@potato_pollo]

When I said i couldnt wait for ur jingliu guides, I meant it. Amazing as always

[@potato_pollo]

Gotta ask though, if I dont have Bronya, and my Tingyun is say used in the 2nd MoC team, who's an alternative harmony char?

[@moodyxweeb9076]

@@potato_pollo You could make do with a well built ASTA

[@thefakeslimshady6969]

Your the most intelligent content creator I've ever come by. Thank you and keep this up! More power!

[@raikage2805]

Dreamy senpai being faster than a trotter running away at full speed 😂😂😂 Thanks for the guide as always🎉🎉🎉

[@Ramyun1023]

This is THE jingliu guide looking forward to more guides on future characters ❤

[@Yubu]

The support section is pretty amazing, it's heavily loaded and I love it! Thanks for the guide as always.

[@betodeth]

Best JG guide out there ❤

[@WalnutBoo]

Man, I’m a little late, but so glad to have you back Dreamy!!

[@shadowmitten]

The real queen of Destruction is here! Won't be pulling but still always love your guides, they're so good❤ always gives me a way better understanding of characters, even if I don't plan to use them its greatly appreciated

[@isurigunatilake2910]

thank you for the amazing guide as usual, dreamy 💙

[@MitsukiKun28]

woah, your guide is really amazing! But unfortunately, i don't want to pull Jingliu cause i'll save my jades for Topaz. She is my waifu :3

[@LisaraScarlet]

Based.

[@facutheo]

You're my favourite hsr content creator, can't wait for a Topaz guide when she's released!

[@kirarrriii]

Yet another immersive and easy-to-understand guide from my favorite HSR content creator. Are you pulling for Topaz?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Yes, pulling for Topaz. She will also get her guide like this.

[@kirarrriii]

@@LisaraScarlet looking forward to it

[@guobacertified]

i like the intro (and the rest)

[@ceciliakirisaki4743]

thank you so much, your guides are very well informed and easy to grasp

[@klwww84]

a very good guide dreamy. thanks!

[@ritarossweisse2797]

I've been waiting for your jing liu guide. Also I just want to share probably my luckiest moment in gacha games. Got her at 55 pity winning 50/50. Lost the 25/75 on Gepard's LC at 61 pity. And got a early 40 pity on her LC. Gepard's LC is still a win since I use Preservation MC on my MoC team. Good Luck to all you pulls. May jingliu bless your luck.

[@GamingFreakShow1991]

I thought I had the worst luck with her when it took 163 pulls to get her once. Then I saw a ray of hope, getting a 5 star on my first 10 pull on lightcone banner.......I lost. But then I pulled her cone the very next single WHAT IN THE FU--

[@thelostpuppy5483]

Aww i prefer the old style thumbnail in your guides cuz it is more unique :3 But hey cool guides as always I lost my 50/50 to e1 bronya so it is still a win for me🥰🎉

[@LisaraScarlet]

Sadly, the old one doesn't seem to get viewer clicks :c

[@KamiiKaiju]

Great guide as always! Thanks Dreamy!

[@Malvekazar767]

Another dreamy guide another good patch. Thanks for all you do.

[@CrusherKingZ]

Always grateful of your great work, I hope you get to be seen by more ppl!!

[@ayayaket]

Amazing guide as usual, make sure to take good care of yourself, don't burn yourself out always working for long periods of time, we appreciate the content but we also care for dorimi health

[@leonardoferreira3824]

Amazing video as always

[@souffle420]

Excellent guide. I'm currently testing my luck to get her sig LC, as I only have s3 UtBS. My current problem is… I don't have Bronya, meaning I need to put some speed on her. Good thing I do have Bronya's sig LC, which can be put on Tingyun. As her relic set… not sure why, but getting either Glacial's or Genius' body with CD stat is difficult as heck 😭

[@LisaraScarlet]

I don't have a CDMG body for Hunter set until today lol.

[@bjornnilsson2941]

100% on the Jingliu-Bronya-Pela-Luocha comp. It's actually scary how much damage she puts out and how fast she does it. I only just built her an hour ago and she's slapping people for 140k ults and 60-80k skill hits. She is going to be a 0-cycle beast! I did notice an SP issue using Pela's skill for the ice shred. I'm feeling like it's going to be hard to fix that with either of the two methods you mentioned because building speed in substats is one of the worst experiences I've had in this game. My Bronya is 134 and Jingliu is 135 and I think that's how I want to keep it. It's extremely cringe to have to use Bronya basic with this setup because she slips in ahead of Jingliu. Maybe I'll find a way to get my simulated 201 spd Luocha, or put him on 4 passerby maybe. Anyway great guide, love that you went through the nitty gritty of speed tuning for SP!

[@IinkcIick]

Did you use boots with speed as main stat? Or atk%?

[@bjornnilsson2941]

@@IinkcIick I use speed boots, but they are the saddest things you've ever seen 😂 I do that to get her to 135 speed so she gets to go twice in the first cycle. My Bronya is right behind her at 134 to also go twice. The damage is outright unfair, but the first rotation cost is high, no using skills on anybody but Bronya and Jingliu basically. 4pc passerby on your abundance unit can help. I just got my first 0-cycle clear on first half of MoC 10 today with Jingliu, and I've never been close before, that's how busted she is.

[@m.ridzwan-26]

Best guide I've been waiting for

[@keronaz95]

17:40 NOW THAT IS A LOT OF DAMAGE!

[@lynling7830]

After playing for a while, pairing her with tingyun is more comfy. I need a 2nd tingyun now since im not comfortable with not having tingyun in my kafka team.

[@VyanTan]

Heard that HuoHuo & Hanya can also regen energy though don't know how much exactly. And both of them come next patch, I'm gonna aim for HuoHuo if lose go for Hanya (and get E12 Hook instead 😂)

[@flaria185]

​@@VyanTanhuohuo ult gives everyone but her 20% of their max energy. Hanya doesnt give any energy, she instead regens skill points

[@YeyoAbreu]

There is a third speed arrangement for Jingliu + Bronya that I happened to stumble upon by my relic rng: Currently I hace 150 speed Jingliu + 134 speed Bronya. Whenever Jingliu’s turn goes by and you get the first stack, rather than pulling her with Bronya you do a normal attack and she falls around 5-10 AV behind Jingliu (depending on talent level). This allows for Jingliu to enter her state and then have Bronya pull her up again right away. Admittedly, I am unaware of how this compares to the other arrangements, but it could have some value for certain burst windows and/or SP management when using Bronya + E4 Pela. I’ll be testing it more in the following days to see if it provides any tangible value in MOC as I have only been able to test in Swarm Disaster where, more often than not, you enter encounters without using the technique prior to battle.

[@LisaraScarlet]

Kinda depends I guess if you manage to justify the action values it ends up with. 134 SPD bronya doing a basic attack won't exactly get you to a 3rd turn on the 1st cycle. So in the end, you are still doing 2 turns on the 1st cycle. Not exactly any improvement unless you don't care about cycles.

[@YeyoAbreu]

⁠@@LisaraScarletI’m aware it won’t net me an additional action on first cycle. What I do want to test out is if it mitigates the SP intensiveness of Pela + Bronya. I was originally aiming for the classic 134 Bronya - 136 speed Jingliu same as my Blade arrangement but somehow my available pieces with highest crit ended up having a bunch of speed (41.5/230.4 crits).PD: love your 0 cycles, have been able to pull some myself, still falling short of 0 clearing both sides of MOC 10 in same run tho.

[@DragonDeath121]

Thanks Dreamy!☕️🍻🎉 (Coffee in your Discord)

[@mmr_2538]

Hey Dreamy, love your Jing liu video ❤. Considering you talk about best team setup for Jingliu, i would like to ask if a healer-Blade-Jing liu-Bronya team setup would be better in team-wise total dmg compared to a healer-Jingliu-Pela-Bronya? The new Jingliu character quest makes me interested about blade even more so im intrested on pulling him + both jing liu and blade kit might compliment later. Thanks in advance ❤😊

[@LisaraScarlet]

Jingliu Blade pairing isn't that good. It is decent at best.

[@NCG420]

Won the 50/50 and got her in 20 pulls now I farm a lot. Thanks once again Dreamy for the amazing guides ❤

[@huybu5121]

I have Bronya E3 so I tried the slow Bronya strategy but with a fast Bronya. Since Bronya's E2 buff 30% spd for the one getting buff. Things go smoothly except one scenario: Jingliu has 1 stack. If you advance her then when she skill, she will goes into enhanced state and the spd buff will expire after that. So just got to keep that in mind

[@huybu5121]

@derrickcheow6088 exactly. If only when JL goes into enhanced state, she received an extra turn instead of 100% action advance (this is what she do before they nerfed her) then this combo will works in all scenario.

[@vulshie2605]

I got her super early pitty when trying to fish for Sampo so this guide is a i life saver cuz I have 0 clue what do with her and can always trust dreamy

[@aPur3AznDud3]

thnx for the quality guide

[@KKrishy]

will it be ok if my jingliu is 140 speed and bronya 139 . does it have to be 135 jingliu and 134 bronya ? i juggled my relics and this is the best i can do

[@LisaraScarlet]

Yes, that's fine.

[@emech022]

As a Jingliu main, I wished I watched this first so I can make better teams and techs 💀 Thx for the guide regardless 🙏

[@lostn65]

this was a very deep analysis. Good work. Is the voice yours or AI created?

[@LisaraScarlet]

AI.

[@DanielDaAbadSukarno]

Bruh I never expected her phone case is "A Cute Cat picture" 😂

[@hadmos855]

Thanks for the video Dreamy! 20:16 did your test using ice or quantum relic set?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Edit: Double checked. Tingyun team was with a Hunter set Jingliu. Pela team was with a Genius set Jingliu.

[@eps-dt7jp]

Hi Dreamy, thanks for another great guide! What do you think about team: Luocha, jingliu, bronya, Blade? Pros: bronya buffs with her ult both jingliu and Blade. Also each attack of jingliu in buffed state triggers blades talent and both DDs are just slightly SP-negative. Loucha is enouhg strong to solo heal both of DD health consupption. I hope you answer this question!

[@LisaraScarlet]

It is a decent team. Is it optimal? No. It mostly relies on bruteforcing with 2 of the best damage dealers in the game but its far from optimal because Blade not getting extra turns and only partial buffs causes his damage to plummet.

[@Ikinagara]

Dat ending is killing my kokoro. Every time i heard rubia something inside of me dying

[@taikobo6943]

Dreamy guides are the best. Thorough analysis with lots of unique perspectives and honest opinions. I have one question, since Jingliu has a freeze mechanic. Is it possible to abuse this for no sustain playstyle?

[@LisaraScarlet]

If you are referring to her technique, it is only applied once per wave.

[@georgezhang1573]

⁠@@LisaraScarletfor a 0-cycle clear, it could be enough, though you don’t really need sustain for those anyways.

[@taikobo6943]

@@LisaraScarlet it is yeah but the fact that it freezes enemies before they can do anything is doing wonders for my no sustain runs

[@usuitakumi4210]

Thank youuu

[@RexZShadow]

Thank you for like the only person who bring up like auto behavior. Also any advicenon blade and JingLiu team?

[@LisaraScarlet]

What kind of advice? Only thing I can think of is to get a DEF shred support for them so both of them increases their damage instead of just buffing up Jingliu with like Tingyun or Bronya.

[@RexZShadow]

@@LisaraScarlet Thanks another question I guess would be what LC for pela and sw? I only have one copy of resolution is that still worth running or should I run Before the Tutorial Mission instead?

[@LisaraScarlet]

@@RexZShadow Since there's not much SP problem, Resolution is probably better since Pela could use her skill more frequently. Granted your Pela is E4.

[@RexZShadow]

@@LisaraScarlet would you say Fu Xuan work as the sustain or better off with actual healer?

[@LisaraScarlet]

@@RexZShadow As long as the battle doesn't last too long, Fu Xuan is fine.

[@neurzero]

Wanna ask about abundance advance forward stuff. What if i put my healer with multiplication, and 4pc wind relic set? This is for general situation, not jingliu only. Thanks

[@LisaraScarlet]

If you can reach 160 SPD with your Eagle set, sure!

[@yomuashia7627]

If you have fast bronya with jingliu atk boots couldnt you run er rope as boots compesate for rope loss. But the er rope solves the issue of 5 energy missing

[@LisaraScarlet]

Just try to get a kill or get hit to be honest.

[@rasyidmystery6891]

i fail to collect enough stellar jades to get her sig LC. is the quantum set still her BiS set even without her sig LC? i have bronya and SW but haven’t build my ting and pela yet

[@LisaraScarlet]

Well, Quantum set should still be slightly better than Ice set against Quantum weak enemies. For non-Quantum enemies, it will be slightly weaker.

[@noxbobby7192]

which team do i go for if i dun have bronya? i had tingyun, silverwold, bronya n only natasha as healer.. how much crit rate do we need to have for cdmg shirt?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Just go for Tingyun, Pela and a sustain. You only need 20% CRIT because buffed state gives an extra 50% CRIT. There's absolutely no reason to not go for CDMG body.

[@stribijev]

So amazing that I do not quite get it in the end. So, I would like to use E0 Jingliu and E6 Pela, and I have no Bronya/Blade/Luocha (I have Lynx and Fu Xuan and Silver Wolf). What kind of team can I make? Then, should I pull for her signature LC? And then what should be the 4pc relic set and 2pc planar set?

[@LisaraScarlet]

That's weird, all of your questions are answered in the video though. 1. One of the team samples mentioned is Jingliu, Pela, Tingyun and a sustain. 2. I made an LC ranking when discussing her LC options. It's just up to you whether you want that significant power advantage. Else, it's not a must pull. 3. If you have Resolution LC and Jingliu's signature LC, that means you are stacking a lot of DEF reductions. This makes Genius set the better relic set. Having less reductions would make the sets equal. Farming for Hunter set could have a huge advantage if your Pela still needs gears since she can use the Eagle set. 4. Rutilant Arena is her best planar set. This is also mentioned in the video.

[@stribijev]

@@LisaraScarlet Thanks, however, I cannot get Tinguyn go from the Seele's team. Seele can't solo MoC 9 and 10, so I need to find some other configuration. OK, so without her signature LC, I can stick to Fall of an Aeon S5, and although my Pela has Resolution S1 (and on Eagle set), I understand I can stick to the Hunter relic set then. Rutilant, I see, thanks (though finding better substats is a nightmare).

[@lunattyyk]

I am struggling with Bronya and Pela(E4) team comp. I started about 2 months ago so I don't have crazy speed gear yet and I also dont have Luocha so I pair her with Fu Xuan who uses 1 sp every couple turns. Even without using Pela's skill I run out of SP at later cycles.

[@VAYu1u]

I need to save for silver wolf & 2 other characters i'm not sure we can talk about. I pulled for seele at 1st banner, but if i had to choose today between Jingliu and Seele, i'd definitely pick Jingliu tbh.

[@agenbite_of_inwit]

Thanks for the video ^^ Ps: can i ask for the name of the song at the end?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Video description.

[@agenbite_of_inwit]

@@LisaraScarlet thaanks

[@Zoeila]

I personally like Yukong with her but I never use auto battle

[@TwoSe7en-]

Got a little confused here, basically, you need the enemy to have both Quantum and Ice weakness to maximize the Genius set with Pela/SW, am I right?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Not necessarily need both element weaknesses. Genius set can already be stronger if enemy is weak to Quantum. Ice + Quantum is just best of both worlds. Silver Wolf helps you achieve that.

[@ryanclouse299]

NGl i wanna do a team comp with Jing Liu, Pela, Silver wolf, and Fu Xuan. It may be less than meta, but overall seems like a fun team. Generally good against any type, protects against crowd control and danger of single ally targeting with lots of defense shred. I Hope Jung liu is good to me in pulls and the SW rerun can't come fast enough lol

[@LisaraScarlet]

Too much DEF shred, better use Hunter set in that case.

[@mehmetenescetin2182]

I thınk ıt wıll be pretty close

[@Junnneee]

Something I'm slightly confused about is under the sectiom where you discuss the ult energy requirements, you state that Jingliu will enter battle with 85 energy. I know that 15 of that comes from her talent, but where did the other 70 energy come from?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Oops. That was for MOC. Entering battles in MOC gives you half energy.

[@Junnneee]

​@@LisaraScarletOooh, got it. I don't have a second team up to par yet so I've been putting off doing MoC, thanks for informing me!

[@McKarter]

Me after watching the latest Herta video: "Hmmmmm i was torn between Seele and Jing Liu, but i guess i can make slow Herta my ice damager instead" . Me after watching THIS video: "...... oh." *pulls for Jing Liu* lmaoooo

[@LisaraScarlet]

Worse if you watched my most recent upload.

[@jesseperkins9669]

Such a fantastic video. Truly next level in how much information you provide, especially with all the data you provided. Felt like i was back in school during a lecture lol. You mentioned that E2 Daniel was stronger , but how does E1 compare? Also would her LC be a good choic for him?

[@LisaraScarlet]

DHIL from E0 to E1 is 12% damage increase. Jingliu's signature LC is almost exclusive to herself as she procs the DMG% stacks literally every attack in her buffed state. It's significantly weaker on others.

[@LisaraScarlet]

If you meant Jingliu E1 vs DHIL E1. Jingliu can be stronger depending on the situation. If a single target never happened, then Jingliu is significantly weaker.

[@jesseperkins9669]

@ayadreamy thanks for answering both questions, I have E1 Daniel and was thinking of maybe pulling her LC for him, but that I know it's not worth I won't. Thanks for saving my resources.

[@mehmetenescetin2182]

@@jesseperkins9669 JL e1 is 7-44 percent dmg increase depending on target count

[@chxba]

I haven't checked a Pela guide but, why does a E4 Pela have such a big difference on SP consumption to a nonE4 Pela?

[@thelostpuppy5483]

As we all know, pela is a sp positive as she rarely need to use skill(unless to remove the buff). The moment we get her e4, she can give 12% ice res reduction for 2 turns which caused pela to become hungry for sp and making us to spam her skill every 2 turns and might be more if we want to remove a buff Hopefully, i understand it correctly and help u answer ur question

[@dantetugaoen5836]

I still don't get why e4 pela is bad with jing liu? can anyone explain more elaborately

[@LisaraScarlet]

I didn't say it is bad. It just brings an SP problem. If Jingliu is teamed with both Bronya and E4 Pela, you will encounter some serious SP problems.

[@faldeus_]

if I have her signature LC, is it better to run it with pela+genius set? or should i go safer with hunter set?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Genius set. There's another thing to consider. Farming Hunter + Eagle set on the same cavern means you are gearing up Jingliu and Pela at the same time. So there's that.

[@faldeus_]

@@LisaraScarlet Ah, I just know that pela is better with eagle set, been running her with 4 piece hacker this whole time. I think I'll go hunter this time, since I can still interchange genius with seele gear if I were to face quantum weaks

[@jasonkim980]

Is there a video going over the 160 harmony tech? Is it specific to Luocha?

[@LisaraScarlet]

It works on any Abundance because they can equip Multiplication LC.

[@mafiasabun799]

Hello, i want to ask, if i have secret vow at S5, can i switch my globe to atk% main stat since +15 globe give 38.8% ice dmg vs 40% from that LC. maybe i can have better overall total ATK stat and while maintaining %ice dmg looks like using +15 globe. is that okay or maybe dmg output is still better when using %ice dmg bonus?

[@LisaraScarlet]

No. That's not how it works. For example, Jingliu already has 200%+ source of ATK%. Before DMG% even starts diminishing, you have to beat that 200% first which is almost impossible.

[@mafiasabun799]

@@LisaraScarlet I think im mistaken to see Arlan LC is one of the best b4 for destruction character since its 40% dmg bonus is similar to globe +15 (so i can use atk% globe instead of %dmg). But your reply clearly explain why i shouldn't do that. Thank you 👍👍

[@Gurenn83]

I am gonna go with dual hypercarry Jingliu, Blade, Tingyun and Luocha (or Lynx) I prefer dual vs single hypercarry

[@AvicenaSydney]

so what do I have to consider when choosing her boots between spd and atk is it just which has the better substats? I'm just gonna go for the ting, pela and a healer team

[@LisaraScarlet]

In that team, better go SPD boots. Aim for 134 SPD.

[@AvicenaSydney]

@@LisaraScarlet alright I'm like 2 speed off from 134 I pray for the substat rolls thanks for answering

[@clifton8566]

dan heng does more damage after using eba3 first then ult then ueba3 doesnt he? he gets a lot of his passive through attacking and the ult will have the attacking buffs

[@niizles]

Thank you for this tutorial, I was wondering, does A secret vow at S5 remains better than Fall of an Aeon at S1 ?

[@LisaraScarlet]

For sure.

[@niizles]

@@LisaraScarlet Thank you

[@CrimsonMonarch]

Watching this has made me discouraged to build her, too lazy to farm for her relics and I only have dodo rainbow pieces haha

[@April2x]

After E1S1 Kafka now E0S1 Jingliu... Evil mommies from both sides ;)

[@ahmadrehanalfariz5920]

what about clara's LC, im lacking mats to buy fall of an aeon atm and secret vow is locked to my blade.

[@LisaraScarlet]

If 100% uptime, just slightly below S5 Secret Vow.

[@ahmadrehanalfariz5920]

@@LisaraScarlet s5 secret vow 100% uptime? or just base s5 secret vow

[@reenom2824]

About genius set, its not worth at all for Jingliu without her signature LC ?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Still worth. Just that it puts it power level quite near Hunter set. At that point, pick the set with better substats.

[@reenom2824]

@@LisaraScarlet okay dreamy, thanks for the answer

[@91dimasik]

Pulled for Jingliu. And now i have E2 Himeko and no Jingliu. Best game ever! So far, 50/50 is the most difficult activity in HSR

[@LisaraScarlet]

Nooo TwT I mean ... Himeko is still good but ... yea, unfortunate.

[@Simon-ur7bi]

Aight quick questions My bronya is currently on a slow build, and honestly I don't have the time or the resources or even the willingness to grind for a fast build. I also have e4 Pela which, as you said, severely damages the overall SP recovery, unless I just ignore her e4 entirely which I guess is always an option. That said, would it be better to just run Tingyun instead of Pela even with slow bronya? I have two copies of the Bronya LC so that will also help with SP recovery Mostly asking cuz idk if it's worth it to slap both in the same team and leave the other with no damage buffer

[@LisaraScarlet]

Tingyun kinda has the same rotation if you have her on ER+Vonwacq which is Skill Basic Basic. The only difference is that Tingyun can do a pseudo 201 SPD build easily by reaching around 170 SPD unlike Pela who struggles to get 50 action value. What I'm trying to say is, Tingyun and Pela eats/generates the same amount of SP.

[@Simon-ur7bi]

@@LisaraScarlet rotations are similar yeah, but the additional copy of Bronya LC should improve SP generation quite a bit since I now get a SP every 3 Tingyun ults, on top of the one from Bronya

[@Animefan1ex]

There is something I didn't quite understand from the video, is the quantum set only better if you have Jingliu's SLC? Say you don't have that and equip an S5 Fal of the Aeon, does that mean then you'd want to use Ice set instead as 4 piece?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Without Jingliu's LC, the difference would be minimal, in that case just go for Hunter set.

[@Animefan1ex]

Thanks for answering

[@sleepingforest3103]

Thank you for your video. I wonder how much damage as a team if you pair with Support+Blade compared with 2 support.

[@LisaraScarlet]

NGL the Blade synergy is a bit overrated. It's okay but not exactly super strong.

[@philreddiii2048]

If you don't have her signature LC, would 4pc Quantum still be a good idea if you have a bronya?

[@LisaraScarlet]

The less DEF shred you stack, the less attractive 4pc Quantum becomes. At that point, the sets would barely have any differences.

[@croyfox]

Hey was looking forward to your video on Queenliu, but just for clarification - the Quantum set is "arguably" better if you have Pela on your Jingliu teams With Jingliu Signature LC*, but with out Jingliu Singature LC then the Ice set will be best choice even with Pela on?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Yes. DEF shred really needs to be stacked before it becomes effective. So no signature = go for Hunter.

[@moza1793]

@@LisaraScarlet Thx for the clarification, I also have the same question about Jingliu with pela but no signature LC. welp, better farm the hunter set now

[@kephalai]

what set should the multiplication abundance healer use? i realized you use hackerspace for 2 pc speed in your other video, but not 4 pc? is the extra speed for the 4set effect bad? or its just because you chose substat over set bonus?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Because not all my Hackerspace piece have super high speed.

[@Chi-xx9lc]

Preem vid as always, really miss your voice❤

[@maskedheretic9629]

Thanks for the guide. At first I wasn't going to roll for her because I already have Yangqing semi built, but wow I feel she would make the game easier like Seele and Blade. Dreamy should I pull for Jingliu or Seele's LC? Seele is using the Herta shop one at s5.

[@LisaraScarlet]

Jingliu LC!

[@maskedheretic9629]

@@LisaraScarlet I failed to get her anyway 😢 Got Welt instead. Did 20 more pulls, so I will think about whaling for the last bit. I think I just need 70 more pulls if I'm correct, right?

[@thebananashark8016]

what are your thoughts or comments on jingliu pela blade sustain

[@LisaraScarlet]

Problem is if there's no Bronya, then Jingliu acts less, Jingliu acting less means less HP drain on Blade. I think it's still okay considering both damage dealers are strong by default but far from optimal.

[@danlim9087]

Thanks for the quick guide Dreamy. Have a question - I've already got Something Irreplaceable - if I don't want to buy Fall of an Aeon is it better than the 4* options you listed or not? I'm gonna assume not or you wouldve listed it ya?

[@LisaraScarlet]

It's slightly below S5 Secret Vow.

[@danlim9087]

Thanks!@@LisaraScarlet

[@ErasMcras]

one quintet dies and all the strong ones are exiled, poor jing yuan

[@alexanderirryeris9391]

Is fu xuan a good pairing for her or should I just use Lynx/Natasha for sustain?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Fu Xuan is okay, the CRIT might be overkill if you have too much on Jingliu. E1 Fu Xuan should be excellent. I haven't calculated which is the better healer but I heard Natasha still heals better due to the continuous heals.

[@PixelleHearts]

Jing Liu makes me want to come... Home to roll for her.

[@LastLightgg]

Idk if you're allowed to talk about it, but I've heard that an upcoming character will be a healer that provides energy? If you were to have said character, how do you expect that would affect team set-up? I assume you'd want Bronya + Pela/SilverWolf, then? And regarding Hunter vs Genius set, you said w/Pela, Genius is almost always better, I assume it's the same if you're running with Silver Wolf?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Sorry I don't look at leaks! As for your other question, yes, because SW also provides DEF shred.

[@Nirski]

Would getting Pela to 147 speed and doing the Abundance 160 speed tech allow you to run Slow Bronya without running into SP issues? Or would they still crop up later in the rotation?

[@LisaraScarlet]

You would still get an SP issue and might need to sacrifice Pela's rotation. This happens around the 4th cycle of MOC.

[@Skeem689]

I don't have any of the listed LC at the end any other 4* I can use?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Even Fall of an Aeon? Hmmm. OMG LOL there's really not much better alternatives. Peppy LC might work if you have a Preservation in her team equipped with Topaz LC. Or just bring a character with Burn, maybe Asta.

[@hadmos855]

Jingliu Bronya Fuxuan(e1s1) is hard to pull off due to SP issues?

[@LisaraScarlet]

Hmmm. Fu Xuan is 1 SP per 3 turns, pretty similar to Pela so yea, you will eventually struggle with SP.

[@hadmos855]

@@LisaraScarletI only have Lynx for sustain otherwise. If Tingyun isn't enough, I guess the only way would be using Pela as if she has no E4.