Ayanokoji vs Johan liebert | All versions

[@ambasin4041]

this guy is literally sleeping while watching monster

[@Cypheryx]

when I saw his video I was like "bro, stop watching anime with your eyes closed"

[@Ylivisky]

It's normal, monster is so boring hahahsh

[@Cypheryx]

@@Ylivisky kid go play with some toys

[@Ylivisky]

@@Cypheryx ohhh cry😭

[@RudyMA]

@@Ylivisky boring wtf the action legit kicks in at the third/second episode 🗿🗿

[@Gremidon]

Koji beats Johan is the biggest cap ever bro

[@markantino2908]

ikr bro a kids versus The Reincarnation of the Devil🤣

[@siganigaa]

In physical and knowledge sector. Otherwise he dont come close

[@trbss9308]

ayanakoji is 15-16 yo while johann is 23 we can t know adult ayanakoji but I admit that current johann slams current koji

[@triplehorizon590]

literally just imagine kouji being the prime minister of japan, he also went back to the wr being better, and he is not a normal prime minister

[@LordYamauchi]

@@markantino2908 Nice argument using a kid. You probably even didn't even read the Light Novel.

[@dreamer8356]

Johan who at the age of 15 managed an underground bank

[@lordescanor8232]

as an ayanokoji fan, i say that johan would destroy ayanokoji johan has the same qualitys like ayanokoji, but with a mind that goes beyond ayanokojis understanding Johan didnt need the whiteroom to become this kind of person, he is the perfect human, with his personality traits and goal and mindset he surpasses ayanokoji in all ways however it mey be that a older ayanokoji could indeed fight 1v1 against johan, but ayanokoji is just 16/17 at this point and johan when he was in that age was already responsible for some many deaths, already a monster, its not only his skills and iq where he is the best, but his great understanding about humen that allows him to manipulate everyone, he would surly find ways to manipulate koenji, something that ayanokoji couldnt do

[@PrimeLegionUltimate]

hes speculating according to age so adult johan vs adult koji so don't say koji is 16/17 as this guy is speculating and versing them against each other based of age

[@DurjoyRB]

bro ..your English dies

[@Ekhein]

Wait, is there someone who still thinks Johan has higher IQ? It should be consensus that Ayanokoji's IQ is far higher by now.

[@i7arus]

@@PrimeLegionUltimate bro even kid Johan showed more superior feats 💀

[@Zcorsp45]

@@Ekhein Fodderkoji has a maximum of 3 IQ

[@Wanderingaround771]

okay...lets be honest .....ayanokoji has a better iq while johan has a better eiq(emotional intelligence) and if you put em in a real world situation ayanokoji is winning....cuz ayanokoji is more of a logical thinker whilst johan has a very illogical way of thinking which would only work in an anime or some absurd situation and even if its not a real word situation ....ayanokoji still wins cuz overall he is better than johan....he is more capable than johan physically and he is smart as hell too so yeah....i dont see ayanokoji losing here

[@wolfirrev3r3nte73]

no

[@sprutheluwu]

iq- Johan, lol killer- Johan evil- Johan plan- Johan win- Johan, negg diff

[@Ekhein]

"Killer" and "evil" aren't even categories. They won't help Johan in anyway. IQ is for Ayanokoji mid-high diff at most. Planning is debatable. Johan neg diffs Ayanokoji? You should reveive a pin of shame.

[@stelioskalli8768]

What makes johan so much better then ayanakoji is the fact that he doesnt have to be edgy he is truly a monster

[@ltengengojojjkareunderesti5897]

Then how about *Prime Minister Ayano vs New Hitler Johan ( Head of Peter Capek's org.)*

[@shinnosukeAMVs]

That would be "No Diff" 💀

[@huzefa600]

Nice edit 🔥 but Johan>Koji in overall intelligence

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@Monicayadav_55]

Correct Overall intelligence has manipulation prediction deception (with perfection without doubts) planning and many more And dude Johan is better in everything

[@Ekhein]

@@Monicayadav_55 Everything? No, not even close.

[@Ekhein]

Overall intelligence (both Gardner's Theory and fluid + crystallized intelligence) goes to Ayanokoji, no debate.

[@Monicayadav_55]

@@Ekhein these ayano meat riders Tell me a single feat that puts him above johan

[@undedude4272]

Dude gave manipulation, perception, deception and feats to ayano tf 💀💀

[@isstavrl]

IQ - Koji Manipulation - Koji Perception - Koji Deception - Johan Feats - Koji

[@IsolatedFreedom_]

@@isstavrl Manipulation - Koji. Johan convinced Kinderheim 511 to kill each other when he was ten, that's dozens of kids and adults

[@IsolatedFreedom_]

@@isstavrl Johan convinces Richard to kill himself after pressing him on the death of the 17 year old. Johan Manipulates an Orphan to kill himself if he doesn't find his mom in a red light district, leading the kid to see rape and drugs Johan controlled a underground mob bank in the shadows at the age of 15

[@rimurusensei7]

iq goes to ayanokoji, perception equal, deception johan

[@refroxtz0803]

@@isstavrl bruh didn't watch monster💀 ayanokoji is a blackmailer instead of manipulator He doesn't manipulate others he blackmail othey💀

[@animeshdaharwal8787]

Now I would say you are a Ayanokoji fan . Me also but there is no way he can defeat Johan

[@esihlezondo6601]

This dude underestimates johan, I'm an ayanokoji fan but in most categories johan liebert destroys ayanokoji

[@Cypheryx]

the amount of ayanotards are above the possible average🤦‍♂

[@makkot1858]

Johan is waaay smarter than this dude, did author even watch the monster?

[@Ekhein]

Ayanokoji is far smarter than Johan. Johan is a better manipulator.

[@LordYamauchi]

Manipulation =//= Intelligence. Just don't say something if you don't know nothing about outsmarting debate. And if you know about it, just explain how Johan is smarter but don't say watch Monster. Just mention all his feats.

[@LordYamauchi]

@Protocol 7 You talk as if Ayanokoji only got his academics.

[@JadonF]

@Protocol 7 Delusional(thinking Johan is smarter and more intelligent than Ayanokoji.)

[@Boite-]

People who say cap forgot who ayanokoji is, he is the perfect human. He isnt really a human its a perfect monster.

[@Faxsai]

😈🐐

[@Boite-]

@@Faxsai what

[@thorfinn7733]

Lmao mentioned where? 💀

[@IsolatedFreedom_]

Bro watching monster at 3 am on 2x speed

[@aiswallenstein7162]

Cool edit mate W

[@Faxsai]

Thx ❤️‍🔥

[@crirgoat2890]

Big W Koji Will Even Win Currently As long as He can seek refugee and Investigate, Koji Doesn't Have Overexaggerated Manipulation Feats Especially things Which He is Given Credit For And Hasn't Even Accomplished Them Fully, Like The kinderheim Feat He Only Mentions Adding oil Which Necessarily Means That There were Already An Immense war Going On And People would Have died Eventually, Koji Will Win Even In Manipulation If He Associates More people With Him Which He's Bad at Cause of interpersonal Issues,But Whoever associates with Him He instantly Gets Them Under his Grip And For Me This Level Of Manipulation Realistically>>>> Because People aren't as Dumb As How Monster describes Them Tbh Edit Here's a Sub💯

[@Faxsai]

Thx ❤️

[@JeffHarknesss]

Lmaooo

[@coyatecifer3580]

I miss when we watch anime to enjoy it ;-; Now we have a war of complain which one is better

[@AnimeCanSaveYou]

Tsukishiro would stomps your Johan 🗿BTW , here is just my opinion: 💀 Johan's feat are more than Koji but the LN ain't even finished, so the people claiming Johan stomps by saying that he " killed more people and didn't get caught, fooled a continent, understand human" ain't it bro. Your continent was in the 80s where we are in moderm world in COTE if you want to approach it realistically and logically or even by the anime logic, the way of thinking there wasn't bad but have been completed since then with philosophies, science development, the white room included all the info into their Masterpiece, so Ayanokoji base has already achieved more than Johan base, Freaking inspector didn't fucking left Tenma alone till Tenma took him out of their investigation by helping Anna and show them he isn't with Johan. Plus, took them years to find 2 twins ( they didn't even care), Johan prep time is like 8 years bro. With this much prep time Koji can also do it and in a better way without even the need of showing his face, reveal his name or even moove to a place to another, he wouldn't even need to kill his enemy himself they would do it by themselves. Just because Koji can't Manipulate Koenji doesn't mean he is less capable than Johan who manipulated a country, cause he understood Koenji isn't abide by any rules, and choose a different approach as effective as if he could Manipulate him. Johan is a monster indeed by Ayanoji is the Demon of the 4th Gen

[@davidalejandro828]

Can you make a claude speed (gta 3) vs Carl jonhsson (Gta San andreas)

[@Cringeycreature]

ayanakoji and johan are both my favorites when ayanakoji was at the age of 15 or 16 he was the pulling strings behind the scenes in major incidents and also he is a outstanding intellingent in everything in that school but johan at a age of 15 he already established a company and was pulling that behind the strings while killing and manipulating many people.johan even manipulated an entire orphanage and made them kill each other. so i clearly say johan can easily defeat ayanakoji ayanakoji can physically defeat johan and johan can mentally damage and destroy ayanakoji

[@Ekhein]

Johan can't mentally damage or destroy Ayanokoji? Have we read the same light novel?

[@Cringeycreature]

@@Ekhein have you seen the monster anime first

[@Ekhein]

@@Cringeycreature Yes, and Johan mostly mentally destroys common people and people who already have mental issues. It's already a consensus that he can't mentally damage Ayanokoji.

[@LordYamauchi]

@@Ekhein They probably just ignored all of Ayanokoji's feat and just focused at some of Johan's non-existent feats. (Not talking about the manipulation.)

[@Toithatliemkhiet]

• Ayanokoji (100% full power): IQ, battle IQ, combat, combat skills, martial arts, strength, speed, combat speed, total attack, total skills, weapons (many different types), agility, strategy, reasoning ability (maybe), endurance • Johan (100%): manipulation, deception, guns, influence, durability, planning

[@josnatsukiayanokoji7776]

Nice vid

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@Faxdani]

fact. Ayanokoji is destined to be the ruler of Japan and with experience he will already surpass Johan, because if you compare Johan at 16 and Ayanokoji at 16, ayanokoji is smarter

[@Faxsai]

Thanks finally someone who thinks like me

[@Faxsai]

If you want, let's shoot a collab video together.

[@i7arus]

Johan at age 15 started underground bank 💀 And adult Johan controlled Europe

[@Faxdani]

@@Faxsai let's

[@Faxdani]

@@i7arus it's all manipulation, not all intelligence. Ayanokoji, when he was 2 times younger, won all the masters in chess

[@blanktheplayer3896]

Cap. Johan wins mid diff. It's not even a debate.

[@shaiii-chan]

𝙽𝚘 𝚍𝚒𝚏𝚏.

[@Zcorsp45]

Neg diff.

[@Galaxia4397]

Johantards are here lmao

[@blanktheplayer3896]

@@Galaxia4397 Ayanotards are here lmao

[@Galaxia4397]

@@blanktheplayer3896 johan is only wins at manipulation and experience term. Physical abilitys, IQ, Combat, Knowledge, etc. Goes to ayanokoji. 1 v 1 fight: ayanokoji low diff IQ: ayanokoji mid-high diff Manipulation: Johan High Diff Overall: Ayanokoji mid diff

[@Lord_of_cap]

W+great edit (but you know that I disagree)

[@Faxsai]

Thx I understand your point, but I think even if Johan is going to win, Ayanokoji will get the IQ score

[@Lord_of_cap]

@@Faxsai Just my opinion, but they're on the same level in IQ

[@nabihasiti7529]

@@Faxsai many people would dissagree with this lol even if u make Koji is win atleast he win high-extreme diff but u make him low-mid diff 🗿🗿🗿, i have nothing word to say tbh

[@Ekhein]

@@Lord_of_cap Not the same level. Johan is under the 200 score, while Ayanokoji's IQ is considerably higher than that.

[@rimurusensei7]

honestly in the future ayanokoji could win in outsmarting but I would be extreme diff or something. and there's no way in hell he gets manipulation in any stage of his life (higher influence doesn't mean better manipulation)

[@ekmeklipogaca1764]

yeah its will be mid-high diff

[@rimurusensei7]

@@ekmeklipogaca1764 zor

[@ekmeklipogaca1764]

@@rimurusensei7 yazara bağlı ne olacağı

[@i7arus]

Even in influence unless he takes over entire asia he won't be equal footing to Johan

[@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033]

Johan and friend wins beyond negative diff

[@fatality8914]

Big Cap Take your L Johan win High diff or extreme diff Even at age of 6 Johan manipulation feat is better than all Koji manipulation feat how can u give manipulation to Koji lmaoo Same to EQ For me be good at manipulation mean you have a good EQ Koji can’t take EQ battle to Johan Influence part you gave to Ayanakoji is the biggest cap Johan at 10 year old has already all europe in his control wtf🤣

[@Faxsai]

I only gave Influence Points to adult Ayanokoji.🤔

[@fatality8914]

@@Faxsai Ayanakoji Adult is supposed to control only Japan if i’m right? Johan control all europe mate

[@i7arus]

@@fatality8914 he probably never read monster and another monster

[@Ekhein]

@@fatality8914 And control the world after gaining control over Japan.

[@shauryagupta4981]

@@Ekhein lol this is all speculation can koji do this but has he done it has he ruled over the world Johan has controlled Europe koji is yet to do so

[@DarkKouji]

Finally someone who don't overrate johan Ayanokoji beats him overall and anything that isn't a manipulation battle In a manipulation battle johan low-mid diff In any other ayanokoji high diffs You earned a new sub

[@Faxsai]

thx finally someone who understands the truth i found my twin

[@Faxsai]

@@natanprime8644 be fair and evaluate both characters together without influence, Ayanokoji will win in the equal and common world, but if Influence is included, Johan will win

[@Faxsai]

@@natanprime8644 I guess Ayanokoji can imitate people's emotions but instead acts naturally and he's a high school kid so he won't be able to gain influence in the shared world or Ayanokoji will turn back to his father.White Room influence > Johan influence

[@Faxsai]

@@natanprime8644 It's really fun to discuss with you, different opinions are always good. thx

[@professionalWdebater]

shut up ayano fan boy

[@-AsmoDeus-]

inuence + feats ayanokoji? RELLY? lmao

[@Daniel_Park_]

Johan easy

[@shamsursagor293]

Nice video..

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@mizuki741]

Bro didn't watch monster

[@N-Ice_]

Fax

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

Imagine not watching monster

[@tuneer6151]

Hell like edit

[@АтабекБектур]

Song?

[@Faxsai]

My ordinary life

[@iskomuz]

Во физических силах - Аянокоджи Интеллект - Johan

[@Faxdani]

хорошая шутка, логический интеллект аянокоджи легко берет, йохан лучше только в психологическом интеллекте

[@iskomuz]

@@Faxdani может ты и прав, но берём в физических силах тут аяно на изи его берет

[@Faxdani]

@@Mark_Kennedy все что ты перечислил у аянокоджи лучше

[@Mark_Kennedy]

@@Faxdani Это лично моё мнение :)

[@minato_-]

It’s true if it’s Prime/President Ayanokoji

[@i7arus]

Bro how can Japan defeat Europe 💀

[@bobisgreat2216]

Facts

[@abyss6540]

Oh my god 💀

[@i7arus]

Bro really said Japan can destroy europe

[@i7arus]

@野比 のび太 のび のびた and johan controlled it from the shadows

[@some_2330]

Bros finna come up with Ayanokoji (elderly home) vs Johan (elderly home) 💀💀💀

[@DAX-PMFT]

Ummm what.....? Bro you know that Ayanokoji as Japan's leader is just an idea.... a supposed future..... Adult Ayanokoji is stronger but we can't estimate his manipulation to be higher than Johan's.... not at all even Aside the video, adult Ayanokoji would be cool af

[@Faxsai]

I think it's predictable because he says he'll be back when he finishes high school. When he comes back, he'll complete himself and improve his EQ. His IQ is already developing

[@AbdullahZayed-qi4jo]

@@Faxsai dude just get a life i can see that you're on weeds

[@Ekhein]

@@natanprime8644 2 Europes? You need to study more, buddy.

[@liam8370]

ayano prime (prime minister of japan) hol up hOLe up HOLD UP

[@NEE280]

Bro u created a war☠☠

[@Faxsai]

Yeah xd

[@shinnosukeAMVs]

@@Faxsai duh for comment, right? 🗿🗿

[@garyzhu1913]

The meat riding goes crazy

[@BD-LIJEKTOR]

🤣🤣🤣pov:Eating Drugs while making The Video 🤣🤣🤣🗿☕

[@Gokujah]

Every physical point to Ayano, all intellectual points to Johan. Johan still slams Ayano though

[@JadonF]

Delusional

[@alexanderjavieralvarezroja7229]

In question Kiyotaka would win for those who compare Kiyotaka vs Johan only does it by manipulation, which Johan would win with a medium difficulty, but if we talk in general about all kinds of intelligence such as thinking, cunning, knowledge, IQ in general, psychology and abilities Personally, Johan would win with extreme difficulty, but in all the debates I've seen they only put the characteristics of manipulation and that's what I don't like that everything is the same. The good thing is that I found this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJCog2ukjKyCncU (That's your video and I watched it first, and now that I'm at it, I want to recommend that video). I really find there are some bugs that can be fixed in my opinion but that's as close as I could find to a general level and now if we look closely the current kiyotaka can do versus the current one. johan i wouldn't be surprised if kiyotaka from the future can defeat johan with some difficulty so this video is great only johan fans brag about johan's level of manipulation but it's just manipulation and this debate is about combat and intelligence , just think about what kiyo gives to johan neg. difference in combat.

[@familyfriend2877]

good editing, just facts

[@CJLajomMiana]

I would say adult ayanokoji would beat johan high diff, its not a fan made, it is actually probably in the manga, but this guy literally let high school ayanokoji win against current johan 💀

[@neeluike6272]

Ayanokoji can easily surpass Johan in academic knowledge but JOHAN WINS IN EVERYTHING OTHER THAN ACADEMIC KNOWLEDGE. ACTUALLY AYANOKOJI VS JOHAN ISN'T EVEN A DEBATE IN CASE OF MANIPULATION 😈😈😈😈

[@Existing705]

Ayanokoji fanboy

[@johan_liebertt]

1 vs 1: Ayno neg diff Outsmart: Johan mid-high diff Real life: Johan neg diff (Aynokoji simply won't be able to find Johan until he himself goes to him, lol) Overall: Johan low-mid diff

[@smoothdream69]

Ayanokoji vs chisato please 😊(plot twist:-Ayanokoji with bare hand and chisato with grenade launcher, a tank and a nuclear bomb)Only this much 😊

[@Faxsai]

next video will be your idea ☺️

[@smoothdream69]

@@Faxsai in Mind: ig there will be a war in comments 💀

[@smoothdream69]

@@Faxsai I was just joking 😂. Ayano fans would blast at me I better confess here.

[@GreenCactus76381]

the sync is unreal

[@berno7893]

Fr

[@tev5388]

*Sigh* Time to open up the comments

[@hiddenside6916]

W

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@Zcorsp45]

Mid pfp

[@sunnyjha5980]

Nice🤣

[@darikson8192]

My Opinion: Ayanokouji < Johan (Character and Writing) Low - Mid Diff Ayanokouji => Johan (overall Intelligence) Extreme Diff Debatible Ayanokouji > Johan (fight) No Diff Ayanokouji < Johan (Manipulation) Mid - High Diff Ayanokouji < Johan (Psicology and EQ) Mid - High Diff Ayanokouji > Johan (Overall) High Diff

[@professionalWdebater]

Johan outsmarts mid diff debate me if u want

[@professionalWdebater]

@sasuke agreed

[@Faxsai]

Fax

[@Ekhein]

@sasuke lol.

[@Ekhein]

Overall intelligence is mid-high diff for Ayanokoji. High diff at most. Character and writing is mid or mid-high diff for Johan (could be high diff if some theories are correct, and they probably are). Ayanokoji is an extremely well written character. Not masterpiece level yet, but almost there. I'd say psychology and EQ (together) go to Johan mid diff, not mid-high. Overall is Ayanokoji high-extreme diff by individual skills alone, without considering Johan's influence. If we're considering Johan's influence, then it's mid-high diff for Johan in overall. W opinion either way.

[@fanime4251]

L+typical ayanogod solos fan

[@nabihasiti7529]

🗿🗿🗿

[@Theambigousphilosopher]

sorry bro Johan beats Ayanokoji the same way a parent beats their child.

[@harrisackerman1430]

Yes ayano will win only if you are the author and make him the MC...

[@lux785]

Big fact 🍷🗿 Just reminding johan is overrated and definitely don't forgot ayanokoji even in y2 v8 is not even serious so just think if he was serious at 100% of his mental power and physical power definitely masacre johan so just stop telling that johan need to win read cote ln

[@zarrarshaikh5875]

Bro gave feats to ayanakoji. 😂

[@xgenius2.024]

Anime ?

[@Faxsai]

Classrom of the elite and Monster

[@lucasdaniel1523]

LLLL BRO

[@noorabdi716]

Lol cap you fanboy...

[@MOOFGTY30]

Johan neg Cap bro

[@Zcorsp45]

These Ayanotards...

[@Acm247]

You don't know johan kid

[@dylansaez9657]

Ayanokoji is the most overrated character in intelligence, they make him look like a God when he only controls smart high school boys while Johan conquered Europe XD. I'm a fan of Ayanokoji but it's overrated

[@kacperskorupa8193]

XDDDD fan school of elit

[@Pragg.]

Debate me on discord if you have enough courage kid

[@hasifgaming9495]

johan>ayanokoji even thoo johan cant manipulate ayanokoji

[@familyfriend2877]

Ayanokoji>>>>Johan Facts

[@Faxsai]

Thx ❤️

[@extremerok6765]

Cap Ayanokoji Prime minister of japan is fully Hypothetical we dont know if we even get back to that in the real story. The video full cap. You saying Ayanokoji IQ greater than Johan is the biggest cap. You can give knowledge to Ayanokoji cause he read thousands of Books. But knowledge means how much you know About Something. And IQ means how much teachnique your brain has to solve anything.

[@Ekhein]

IQ goes to Ayanokoji mid-high diff at most, and knowledge goes to Ayanokoji very low-low diff. It's a shame to even think Johan's IQ is higher than Ayanokoji's nowadays.

[@sorry6857]

best

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@Lonly000less]

ayanokoji win high diff but manipulation deprecation johan mid diff

[@mrnobo9261]

Cote is cringe also ultra overrated

[@Daniel.369]

I disliked this video, Some random KZbinrs

[@edithrondonhace25anos2]

what about baki vs ayanokoji it would be a great battle

[@abdeasta9488]

Baki win NO DIFF

[@Zcorsp45]

Kid Baki negs lmao

[@mshadowmmn]

w

[@Faxsai]

Thx

[@Buddym3]

Infinity Cap

[@vittuky]

johan>ayanokoji

[@Toithatliemkhiet]

Johan > Ayano (manipulation, durability, planning, influence) Ayanokoji > Johan (IQ, strength, speed, combat, skills, weapons, battle IQ, martial arts, strategy, endurance)

[@exclusivemlbb1622]

L+Ratio+Biased

[@Faxsai]

nice idea

[@animerelated5217]

Goofyy ahh song

[@badran1452]

😂

[@punpun-]

Bruh

[@MLBBIndian]

Facts koji slams easily johan😂

[@Ryuk690]

"kid have you ever heard of monster"🗿

[@MLBBIndian]

@@Ryuk690 yep and have u heard of johan's father koji

[@shinnosukeAMVs]

@@MLBBIndian have you heard or know johan liebert's age or ayanokouji?

[@MLBBIndian]

@@shinnosukeAMVs not in age but in other abilities

[@gikara_5646]

Fax

[@gokuisfodder7173]

Fax