Ayn Rand on Israel and the Middle East

(1979) Ayn Rand discusses Israel and the Middle East on Donahue.

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[@jesan733]

45 years ago and nothing much has changed. Wow.

[@bullwinkle8266]

For the worse.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

She is a classic example of when the crap hits the fan, all polotics is Identity politics.

[@trylateral]

Definitely makes her comment on the New Deal more compelling.

[@danInRealife]

We'd be better off without them both.

[@user-ov4wr5yu4r]

Not a bit.

[@Santos.Sarmento]

“No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine.” - William Blum Greetings from Brazil.

[@blackout07blue]

Tard talk, like the former nutjob Brazilian president.

[@auntiesemite9295]

APARTHEID israel does far worse that the media would ever tell us.

[@1antoniov1]

Blum said many interesting things and many idiotic assertions. This is one of the latter …

[@Santos.Sarmento]

@@1antoniov1 maybe this exactly what the government needs people to think.

[@1antoniov1]

@@Santos.Sarmento sure , Alex Jones , you’re right

[@aileenserrantes-xp1uh]

She was so straightforward.

[@UrinationNation]

Well when you don't know what you're talking about and have a platform and you're frankly in love with yourself, well why wouldn't you just say whatever if it gets you that sweet sweet attention you need so desperately.

[@gregconway736]

Nope. She preached about how taxes were unfair and nobody should have to pay them. Then she wanted the US citizens to fund Israel forever. Hypocritical

[@SweatLaserXP]

Everything that they accuse you of, they themselves are guilty of. Always the projection and gaslighting.

[@paulmalfara6071]

Accusatory inversion is what we call it. The Bolsheviks, top heavy with (((our friends))), murdered millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Then they had to create a smokescreen to make themselves the victims. I am sure you know what came next.

[@FloridaEbikes]

Especially jews and democrats.

[@donovanjones4175]

Wrong. Not gaslighting, friends lived there, Islamist found out they were Christians, told them they can’t wait to kill them, that was 5 years ago, they live in America now, and they can’t believe how beautiful and free they are. So , go to the middle east and learn what’s real

[@johanisnotagamer]

​@@FloridaEbikes Democrats and Republicans fight for the same body of rule. The Jews, amongst others, created it all. Stop fighting the brainwashed and start fighting the brainwashers.

[@ZaneFarnsworth]

@@FloridaEbikesYeah, it’s definitely been the Jews that have been carrying out terrorist acts for years and the democrats that tried to overthrow the American government. Get real.

[@tracyoliver550]

Seeing Rand up on that stage, alone, surrounded 360° by a large crowded being spurred on by Donahue reminded of a quote by Chesty Puller “we’re surrounded , they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re behind us and they’re in front of us. They can’t get away this time”!!!

[@thorinbane]

Pathetic take. She is clearly a racist and bigot, most people don't applaud that, even if you do.

[@jonathanmartin8517]

OORAH

[@stopato5772]

She conveniently forgot to tell her zionit audience that PLAN D and haganah introduced terror to the war against unarmed civilians, and Israel perpetrated massacres of woman and children, and this is the reason you are so despised.

[@travismiles5885]

I'm an Army vet, but I know who Chesty was from videos on AFN from when I was stationed in Europe. I had a job interview years ago and the guy interviewing me was a retired Marine. I commented on his picture of Chesty and we got to trading war stories from our times in the service. That was my interview. I was hired on the spot.

[@karlk9316]

Donahue was a charming, manipulative, misleading jerk.

[@quitefranklysamanthatheres1018]

Man I miss when debates and discussion could happen and ideas and speech wouldn’t get you taken off the face of the earth

[@eaccer]

I mean you can say anything you want nowadays as well. I guess saying things along the lines of "Black people are all criminals" and "Gay people should die" are statements that maybe you could get away from back then that you can't today but of course thats for the best, would't you agree?

[@brettharman8921]

that would be roughly 350BC-

[@YamikaniNgwira-jv6st]

it's horrible my dear

[@blackout07blue]

What is this even in reference to? Conservatives are now trying to get every liberal cancelled. Lol

[@lpg21766]

@@blackout07blue I'm not sure what conservative or liberal means or what that has to do what what the commentator was talking about. Ayn Rand was a horrible person with a horrible philosophy but her extreme libertarianism doesn't easily fit into any prevailing political category and I learned from hearing her talk.. I can remember seeing ppl as diverse as James Baldwin, Gore Vidal, William Buckley, Betty Friedan on mainstream television and I learned from them as well. What the hell has happened? The allowable political spectrum gets narrower ever year. Now they are targeting the internet. If u feel like Online Safety Bil (coming soon to the US)l is only going to target conservatives" you are very deluded.

[@Wanamaker1946]

She told them, and of course she right as rain. ….and they still haven’t changed.

[@actone1030]

This couldve easily been recorded yesterday.

[@l.rongardner2150]

Imagine if Rand said now what she said then. She'd be canceled and censored for "hate speech" and "violation of community standards."

[@sashaspano588]

well look at tucker carlson. he's been saying stuff very similar to this for years. don't believe me? look it up. has he been cancelled? nope, he hosts the most popular talk show in the US and probably the entire western world.

[@epickiller30]

Didn't Marc Lamont Hill get fired from CNN for making negatives statements about Israel?

[@davidgallaghermilwaukee6186]

Ayn Rand was a vile subhuman, the worst thing Vladimir Lenin ever did was allow her to get a free education.

[@DrMackSplackem]

And she'd still be just as correct. Reality hasn't changed, it's just become increasingly offensive to those conditioned to deny it. They don't call themselves 'progressives' for nothing.

[@davidgallaghermilwaukee6186]

@@DrMackSplackem Ayn Rand is a decaying corpse in the ground, most people who aren't parasitic corrupt politicians or billionaires either don't know who she is or outright hate her. She isn't going to fuck you.

[@JoeBuck-uc3bl]

Phil’s intense facial expressions are killing me.

[@7x779]

Yeah he was a liberal hack and a professional carney, good at whipping up the audience emotions across America and helping tilt them to the left

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

It's all communication...

[@jamesdavison2416]

Love Phil!!

[@kjsfl386]

He had to turn it back on her to keep his corporate network happy. His handlers wouldn’t allow hers to be the last voice heard.

[@markymarkymarkymarky]

@@kjsfl386He also needed to make his wife and father in law happy. Plus he is a bleeding heart liberal to boot

[@TheCarlocaroline]

Funny, what she said is similiar to that the english said about us Irish when they were colonising us. We were no better that animal, half savage, compared us to monkeys even. Because we had our own ways of living, our own customs and language that wasnt like theirs they considered us sub human. What about the protected tribal people in the amazon. Would she say they were savages that need to be dragged into the future. So what if the arabs were nomads. That was their life and culture

[@61CatLady14]

I knew about the prejudice against the Irish, but I've been learning lately the hatred that Great Britain had towards the Irish. It's amazing that my Irish grandfather married my English grandmother. I would think that history would have been passed down through generations.

[@Selen304]

Same thing was said and done by White colonizers and slave traders to Indians, native Americans and Africans.

[@s.gallagher4851]

Yes she would. Any culture that doesn't hail to the capitalist desires of the West is a target.

[@NamaRauqos04595]

Their technology has deluded them into thinking that they must be morally superior as well.

[@trugrit7210]

Rand was all about property rights and against tribalism except when it involved her own tribe stealing other people's land.

[@Bobis-cx7hj]

When You’re right You’re right

[@andrewbrowne5557]

Donahue would fit right in on The View…

[@yashnilbenimadhu7241]

If you truly were a fan of Rand. You would see here she is going against her principles of objectivism and capitalism. 1) failing to mention the atrocities committed by the Israelis 2) failing to call out the extremely ridiculous amount of US taxpayer money that goes out into funding Israel. Rand was an atheist but of Jewish background and Culture hence her extreme bias here.

[@andrewbrowne5557]

@@yashnilbenimadhu7241 who said I was a fan of Rand?

[@MrJiggerG]

​@@yashnilbenimadhu7241 The Jews have been persecuted for nearly 5,000 years. She has every right to feel the way she does.

[@greggasiorowski1326]

@@MrJiggerG What does that have to do with "Zionist's" putting the the boot on the other foot & one upping the nazi's??? 🤣

[@kevinallies1014]

@yashnilbenimadhu7241 At the end of the day she couldn’t help herself but to be Jewish which means you start the story at the point after all the things you did that were bad. Israel was literally founded by criminal street gangs. The founders of Israel had no business being in Palestine in the first place. Almost all of them were Russian Jews born in Ukraine. They had zero ties to Palestine other than it seemed like a good place to go to steal land.

[@ref6122]

This is from a time when freedom of speech still existed in the United States.

[@andrewj4426]

Criticizing Israel is the capital sin in the US now. Jackson Hinkle and others have critized Biden and nothing happened they Critized Israel and their youtube channel was closed. others have been demonetized. They own this country.

[@7x779]

Kind of sort of but it was on its way out. In the schools I was in from the early seventies, you could expect to be mocked ridiculed and canceled if you expressed traditional conservative patriotism, morality, or anything to do with the religion of the pilgrims and founding fathers You would get bad grades if you didn't go along with whatever historical and social political agenda they were teaching.

[@7x779]

They also could not tolerate science and true learning. You have to go along with the fallacies of the coming Ice Age and how mankind was causing it and we needed to take political action. You had to go along with the theory of evolution which is completely unscientific, stupid, and unproven scientifically. And if you spoke out intelligently with a high IQ able to present analyze the arguments against this idiocracy, you were mocked ridiculed and canceled, so even if you knew better you learned to keep your mouth shut and give them the answers they wanted so you could pass There's a whole generation of highly intelligent gifted who never completed higher education because they saw the University's had become indoctrination camps and they were sick of the lies they had to accept and be pushed down their throats

[@mohammedhanif6780]

yeah when you cd b openly racist

[@RobertoAlvarezGalloso]

​​@@7x779I second that. You Either agreed with them or you received an act of repudiation with the cancelling. Even from your own family. In spite of that, I survived and graduated without sacrificing my ideas

[@blkhistorydecoded]

If the US did for the Arab nations what it does for Israel, how would things look now?

[@User9681e]

Whole middle east would have looked like Syria , Yemen

[@jeffs7915]

She really pulled her punches with that answer.

[@michaelnurse9089]

Pulling punches means hitting someone softly. I think you mean the opposite.

[@72marshflower15]

I found proof in a museum that she’s a plagiarist and a fraud.

[@john42t]

And it's amazing how little the battle and the arguments have changed isn't it?

[@7x779]

Read the old testament, Book of Esther is a short and easy to read example, one of many how that from the very beginning Satan has tried to wipe out the jews. Not that there any righteous or better than the rest of us it was through them God had his plan of the Redemption of the world and forgiveness of sin through the coming of Messiah which clearly had to come through their lineage as prophesied, and as is exactly recorded in the Gospels, at the right time, in the right place, and through the right lineage as predicted. It was Satan who has been trying to Snuff that out and it is still Satan who has them blinded today

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

No. Hamas is evil and is tolerated

[@Steve-wm1ol]

And how right she was..

[@sarahgirard1405]

@@Steve-wm1olhow wrong she was and is.

[@moony77]

On purpose! As Hitlary Clinton said, “war is a business model!”

[@Fallout777]

Donahue was playing the crowd.

[@alexhauser5043]

That's all Donahue has ever done. He's entertaining in a sleazy way.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Exactly. A little time later and reality TV would arrive - with its plotted and constructed conflict and contentions... all faked to grab an audience.

[@joey_bonin]

That's exactly what a hack does.

[@dimitriosotis8632]

Back when opposing ideologies could challenge openly and discuss....

[@maryamshaaban74]

"Anyone who resorts to force is a monster" Tell that to the country that started on holding natives at gunpoint to force them out of their houses.

[@stevenmoore2514]

Still relevant today.

[@marlindailey5306]

Relevant and Spot On... Ask Germany and the UK how well Muslims have assimilated into their culture.

[@stevenmoore2514]

Read Donald Trumps inaugural speech, you will find Ayn Rands philosophy there.@@marlindailey5306

[@marwanthe2oooth]

@@marlindailey5306Yea Germany, the masters of committing holocausts should tell us about assimilation loooool.

[@Siegfried5846]

Ayn Rand was antiwhite. She wanted selfishness for White countries, but unity for Israel.

[@Siegfried5846]

​@@marlindailey5306 Neither has Ayn Rand's people (the Jews). They have not assimilated after thousands of years.

[@scoria1755]

In the actual unedited interview, Donahue's statement is false that Saudi Arabia paid the oil companies to develop the oil, then Saudi Arabia nationalized the industry. The oil companies paid Saudi Arabia to let the oil companies develop the oil, then Saudi Arabia nationalized/seized the industry.

[@craigbritton1089]

The Saudis chose the Americans over The British because we were not colonizers of The Middle East: then later they nationalized the oil assets but still kept the American companies as technology sources and getting a share of the extracted oil.

[@kylemenos]

Yes this is the same thing that happens everywhere. Ukraine is one example where shell went in on contract to get oil in the country but found they had to develop special technology to drill that oil because of the terrain it was on. Following that the began after advancing their craft to a point where they could drill then were attacked by previous owners of the state. Here we are today.

[@garyjohnstone6422]

Saudi`s did not develop the oil fields, Western experts did. They found it, extracted it, refined it, transported it then paid for it! English PM Margaret Thatcher said it was a terrible mistake and they should have been given a 5% royalty only.

[@costernocht]

"Ms Rand, you're being unreasonable." Cue thunder and lightning!

[@hazmaouini6291]

The host taught her a very important lesson🌹, can you please tell us his name

[@shelbynamels973]

The clip was posted fourteen years ago, the show itself was broadcast even earlier. Nothing has changed since then. Nothing will change. By Christmas, the events of October will be yesterday's news.

[@Thinks-First]

Let me ask you something: do you think the Jews allowed the Holocaust to become "yesterday's news?". Since Oct 7 was the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust I can assure you the action they take will make the world remember what happens when you think you can kill Jews wholesale. Count on it.

[@dariusanderton3760]

well yes, its safe to say that today's headlines will become yesterday's news. That tends to happen.

[@TF-xf6bv]

pretty much....unless it escalates into a regional war which it is where it is going if they do not restrain themselves

[@johnbendheim8163]

@@TF-xf6bv You mean Hezbollah? Who started this war? Maybe restrain hatred for your neighbor because the civillians of Gaza aren't going to do anything other than be useful human shields to a soon to be defunct Hamas. Iran would be wise to not be the next target of US regime change policy if they don't want their country destroyed like Iraq or Syria.

[@Hexadeci]

This was from 1979 for whatever it’s worth.

[@shmosel_]

Surely you can't be suggesting there exist good people and bad people

[@ArgentPure]

On both sides

[@killacommie4mommie]

I am suggesting that, and don’t call me Shirley.

[@Hexadeci]

I was born bad but identify as good. 😂

[@ChrisP3000x]

"Anyone that resorts to force is a monster" Riiiight, so how did they take that land?

[@vondas1480]

about 6000 thousand years from the native Pagans, and they keep it by murdering and oppressing non-muslims. glad Israel is there to protect secular human Arab's from those occupiers. 🇮🇱

[@garyheller62]

I can thoroughly recommend the book "What Justice Demands", by Elan Journo. So much focus about the "middle east" is either theological zealotry or supposed "historical ownership" and bot are so misguided IMHO. The aforementioned book is actually written by a self-proclaimed atheist, pretty much like Ayn Rand, and, unsurprisingly, expresses the same opinions as Ayn Rand. "What Justice Demands" has a fabulous history and context on how we got to where we are today, and an utterly uncompromisingly clear view on what works and what doesn't to stop this endless cycle of human misery. It was published more recently than Ayn's interview, 2018 I think, and will give you lots of food for thought about what's going on.

[@callelindstrom4341]

I haven’t read the book but seen some episodes with Elan Journo on the Ayn Rand institute’s podcast on KZbin.

[@SuperGaleford]

Phil on camera having an aneurysm bursting

[@jamespn]

Phil was very avant guard in his wokeness even way back then.

[@blackout07blue]

He’s got common sense. This lady is a village idiot.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

He's a TV host, playing "Dorothy Dix". Nothhing to do with Yoke.

[@yashnilbenimadhu7241]

I admire Rand but I find her take on this almost cartoonish but given her Jewish background I can see where the bias comes from.

[@chrisg7731]

@@yashnilbenimadhu7241 new headline for this video could be "No one surprised as Jewish woman vehemently defends Israel." God, you can set your watch to this shit.

[@larrybernstein4109]

Donahue was a pussy back then and probably a worse one now!

[@mjac1181]

Oh wow Phil Donahue could actually speak up, something that is missing today...

[@treybie1]

That's how true Free Speech used to work. That couldn't happen today, and that's a crying shame.

[@yodaiam1000]

Ironically, it is literally happening today with the post of this video.

[@kylemenos]

@@yodaiam1000 Ironically it was deleted and will be deleted again. If she said white Americans need to be destroyed they would be airing this on national tv all day long.

[@yodaiam1000]

@@kylemenos Ayn Rand's comments are conveyed to the public in all forms of media. Her ideology is not being deliberately suppressed by media. Quite the contrary, all sorts of right wing politicians have and continue to jump on the Ayn Rand bandwagon. Her ideas are as flawed and naive as communism and other ideologies. She fails to consider basic human nature and the fact the society made the rich man rich with resources made available by society. No individual works in isolation and the harm done by the individual can not be dealt with by a free market alone. The OP has been up for a long time and I don't see other similar postings removed unless there are some other reasons that they violate the terms of use. I think to suggest or believe otherwise is just exhibiting an unwarranted victim complex.

[@user-ch4tw2yt6o]

@@kylemenos This video is from 2009 what do you mean?

[@Siegfried5846]

Ayn Rand was antiwhite. She wanted selfishness for White countries, but unity for Israel.

[@EyeLean5280]

There are (and especially then, were) arguments for the practicality of allying with Israel, rather than her enemies. However, I believe Rand oversimplifies the case here by quite a bit. Yes, some Mideastern Islamic cultures resist modernization, but not all. And resentment over industrialization is not really why they hold a grudge against Israel.

[@lapamful]

She didn't say industrialisation is why they hold a grudge against Israel, she said it's because they're racist.

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

@@lapamful And so are the Israelis, so what's your point?

[@lapamful]

@@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 what race is terrorism?

[@blackout07blue]

Israel has been funding the Hamas terrorists for years at the direction of Netanyahu to keep Palestine divided. That’s a FACT.

[@blackout07blue]

This lady is kind of a moron.

[@bobsmoot8454]

The truth hursts, Rand was far beyond the normal person, a seer

[@TheEverCuriousJen]

Read the book or at least watch the lecture. “Author Richard Becker's book, Palestine, Israel and the U.S. Empire, provides a sharp analysis of the struggle for Palestine from the division of the Middle East by Western powers and the Zionist settler movement, to the founding of Israel and its role as a watchdog for U.S. interests, to present-day conflicts and the prospects for a just resolution. It promises to interest both long-term Palestinian rights activists and those who are new to understanding the issue.” kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2bcZ2Cia6xojsUsi=rElam0i6LU7uibsn

[@oldbk4281]

She was a child.

[@garyjohnstone6422]

The most brilliant mind re political philosophy ever to grace the world.

[@lawrencestoke]

Ayn Rand was Jewish. She wasn't exactly going to be supporting the Arab position was she?

[@synesthesiacoyote7575]

​@lawrencestoke trust me, she an objectivist so she couldn't possibly be biased. Emotionally grounded generalizations have to be true

[@scottgretencord478]

Her views align with what most non believers of islam located in the middle east KNOW.

[@jonathanmoore5619]

We'll, well, well...

[@BGTuyau]

The fatuousness and pomposity of Phil Donahue and his chorus of trained seals versus the courage and clarity of Ayn Rand: No contest.

[@eajinabi]

To just assume one side is barbaric and racist and the other side just pure and innocent is also a pompous and an arrogant stance. Donahue was not taking sides but was rather being objective and introduced a point in a complex issue.

[@joey_bonin]

Bull. He has symptoms of the Hearst Syndrome. He's selling papers.@@eajinabi

[@garyjohnstone6422]

it is a thoroughbred idiot, the product of a socialist upbringing

[@geraldmay9408]

I don't always agree with her but the woman speaks her mind and doesnt hold back! She makes the conversation interesting. This is why we must protect freedom of speech.

[@yousufleads]

So do pedos are you one?

[@judithbreastsler]

You are not obliged to accept the fact that Hamas targets and brutally murders innocent civilians. It's okay to be insane in a liberal democracy. And remember, you are not alone!

[@blackout07blue]

@@judithbreastsleruh, israel has been funding Hamas for years at the direction of Netanyahu. Learn anything. He admits to doing it.

[@blackout07blue]

She is a village idiot.

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

She's a Jew. Did you actually expect anything else because she's often associated with "right wing"?

[@kimwaldron2606]

And Israel doesnt use terrorism?

[@bobbylee2853]

2:08> That didn’t age well.

[@kimwaldron2606]

@@bobbylee2853 when it's done by the state it's not considered terrorism

[@netaji-thebritishslayer]

​@@kimwaldron2606first learn meaning of terrorism😅😅

[@kimwaldron2606]

@@netaji-thebritishslayer I was referring to the definition of State terrorismState terrorism is when a government or government factions use violence or threats against civilians, other governments, or factions within their own government. The goal is to instill fear in the community and prevent challenges to the status quo, even if it means being indifferent to human life. State terrorism can include a wide range of acts, such as: genocide, mass murders, ethnic cleansing, disappearances, detention without trial, torture, bombings, and targeted killings.

[@User9681e]

There was no systematic targeting of civilians ever done by Israel and Israel was always on the defense rather then an aggressor ​@@kimwaldron2606 else please reference your sources , timelines of events

[@chip877]

As true then as it is now !!!!

[@YorickReturns]

Ayn Rand advocated rational self-interest, which doesn't mean law of the jungle or acting on a whim or not caring about other people. She explains this in her writings.

[@michaelparkanski985]

No she advocated for sociopathy.

[@micchaelsanders6286]

@@michaelparkanski985 No she didn't. Her philosophy makes sociopathy impossible. Try actually reading her instead of being a second hander.

[@michaelparkanski985]

@@micchaelsanders6286 All right wing libertarians are sociopathic morons who shouldn't be taken serious and mocked and ridiculed for its naked self interest above all considerations. Yes she's a sociopath, she had no feeling for Anyone who wasn't her (standard idiot ultra conservative). Stop assuming anyone who disagrees with you never read source material

[@michaelparkanski985]

Besides the only time conservative are honest is when they try to murder people.

[@groovy3443]

@@micchaelsanders6286 right wingers are so goofy man, you really just watched that video and defended that gollum of a woman?????

[@user-oc7gq8iv4v]

Finally some truth spoken

[@ammaralbadi5840]

finally some lies spoken.

[@blackout07blue]

She’s a half tard.

[@marylouraygarcia401]

Truth? Calumny!😊

[@TheEverCuriousJen]

Read the book or at least watch the lecture. “Author Richard Becker's book, Palestine, Israel and the U.S. Empire, provides a sharp analysis of the struggle for Palestine from the division of the Middle East by Western powers and the Zionist settler movement, to the founding of Israel and its role as a watchdog for U.S. interests, to present-day conflicts and the prospects for a just resolution. It promises to interest both long-term Palestinian rights activists and those who are new to understanding the issue.” kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2bcZ2Cia6xojsUsi=rElam0i6LU7uibsn

[@AboveAvgMan]

I m sure she could articulate manifest destiny better than I ever could.

[@peanut422hb]

Yes, MAN I fest. This one is a ♂️

[@TeaParty1776]

You evade free will

[@okiepita50t-town28]

I think she clarified her position quite nicely at the end of that clip. I’d love for Phil to live amongst the people ( Arabs) he is, apparently, so fond of and see if his perspective changes.

[@TheEverCuriousJen]

Read the book or at least watch the lecture. “Author Richard Becker's book, Palestine, Israel and the U.S. Empire, provides a sharp analysis of the struggle for Palestine from the division of the Middle East by Western powers and the Zionist settler movement, to the founding of Israel and its role as a watchdog for U.S. interests, to present-day conflicts and the prospects for a just resolution. It promises to interest both long-term Palestinian rights activists and those who are new to understanding the issue.” kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2bcZ2Cia6xojsUsi=rElam0i6LU7uibsn

[@dandavis8300]

Well, his wife Marlo Thomas was half Lebanese.

[@thatguywhohassomethingtosa3513]

@@dandavis8300Christian

[@NoName-ln8is]

You are racist. I am Arab muslim. What’s wrong with living alongside me? It’s obvious how horrible it would be living along you. A racist evil person

[@R-Lee-]

​@@dandavis8300Lebanon is the only Middle Eastern country that has a lot of Christians

[@csilva85]

You're absolutely right! Thanks for your comment.

[@OfficialWorldChampion]

you can hear the crowd was on the side of the gray hair guy because his applause was so much greater

[@mrlfhill]

Lol.. I guess I am a bit older than you. That was Phil Donahue.

[@markv1274]

To be fair, it was Phil Donahue's show. The people who came to sit in on his show knew his views and politics. They were his followers, his supporters, they watched him practically every day for years. Donahue was going to receive louder applause no matter what. Having said that, Donahue did make a fair point. Additionally, he didn't allow the argument to devolve into name-calling like you hear these days, plus he allowed Ayn Rand the chance to speak.

[@blackout07blue]

She is kind of a village idiot though.

[@ForeverTributesNL]

His delivery was good and people love that more than a good argument.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

You have no idea what you look at who these people are, do you? Applause from a mob is not measurement.

[@stiggsmasta]

Any time i see Phil all i can remember is when he had 2 live crew on.

[@MaxPower321]

This aged like milk for someone who was supposed to be against authoritarianism. Being Israel’s buffer has directly lead to things like the patriot act, warrantless law enforcement, etc.

[@JanWest24]

I mean this woman was all for complete individualism only she was happy to cash her welfare checks when she was short on funds, the exact type of collective assistance her novels condemned.

[@WalterSobchakBowler]

My children are your age and older. I may have annoyed them sometimes but they have become adults who can think for themselves for the rest of their lives & will never blindly follow anything or anyone.

[@csilva85]

Thanks for your thoughtful comments! Be safe and stay healthy...

[@kingpuppo5880]

When you're right, you're right

[@Quviyn]

Bit extreme to call the Arab world savages

[@TheTruth-ko9ov]

Calling the Arab world savage while no one in Europe wanted the jews and the jews escaped to the Arab world as a refeguees..

[@kingpuppo5880]

​@@Quviynits true they are

[@langelle1]

I didn't know Steve Martin was a talk show host.

[@packerfan66]

Nothing has changed in all these years.

[@ralphadamo1857]

Sure things have changed. For the worse! Remember, things can always get worse. And they frequently do Ayn Rand: Correct 50 years ago and still correct today. But Leftists/Cretins are sure to disagree. If I were a Leftist/Cretin, I'd certainly disagree. But, fortunately, I favor Civilization over Barbarians.

[@WalterSobchakBowler]

"Talking to you is futile". That's what I was telling you. I'm very proud of myself!

[@JohnSmith-pb4ri]

Not surprising. Her real name is Alisa Rosenbaum.

[@thatguywhohassomethingtosa3513]

92 million evangelicals support Israel. 150 more Americans do the same. If anything being an American Jew, today, makes you less likely to support Israel.

[@murrayaronson3753]

So what. Ayn Rand was another non-Jewish Jew. Except her viewpoint was different from say Noam Chomsky.

[@lawrencestoke]

There's nothing like a non-Jewish Jew. Many Zionists were and are "non-believers" but they do believe in their ownership of the promised land. So that's neither here nor there

[@trugrit7210]

​@@murrayaronson3753so very non-Jewish to favor her tribe when stealing other people's property bssed on lies.

[@netaji-thebritishslayer]

The jews nvr stole an inch of land ,they bought it😅😅​@@trugrit7210

[@avalanchecannon7911]

You can't judge an entire group based on the actions of a few but you can judge an entire group based off of the actions of the group and what they support as a whole. Example: Black Lives Matter is comprised of racists who condone the actions of criminals.

[@charsikhan9753]

By that same logic, successive American governments propping up dictators in South America, the Middle East, and Asia, makes all Americans lovers of dictatorship. Americas “legal torture” in the Vietnam war, Iraq war, afghan war, makes Americans akin to nazis. America being in a constant state of war with themselves, or with others makes all American genocidal maniacs. Ok gotcha 😂 😂

[@zacfonseca857]

Not true, not that simple.

[@WSmith_1984]

Much like Israel...

[@zacfonseca857]

@@WSmith_1984 Bullshit.

[@shambu2012]

yes you can. Just read their book and you will be astonished. That medieval ideology is about conquest, killing, rape and subjugation and nothing will change unless 2 bill people get sober.

[@piyushbanerjee2808]

Holy shit...If she spoke like this today,she would probably be arrested!

[@Pestbringer89]

Well dehumanizing a whole group of people as primitive savages makes it easier to kill them right?

[@Rochester92G]

@@Pestbringer89 That's what they do to Jews and "infidels" every day. Oh, and women, their own citizens if you dare leave their religion. Ironic, huh?

[@asmirann3636]

​@@Pestbringer89Dehumanizing a whole group makes it easier to justify their killings. This whole savages vs civilized argument has been the trope of all colonizing countries. Meanwhile, the colonisers themselves engage in unprovoked and extreme violence that can only be called savage.

[@2wheelz3504]

Which group wants to wipe which other group of the face of the earth? Your argument just blew back on you.@@Pestbringer89

[@Pestbringer89]

@@2wheelz3504 come on dude. almost 3 million people live in gaza, about 30k hamas fighters exist. There havent been any democratic elections since hamas took over.

[@NilSatis1983]

"How can you say production is less important than motivation. Surely what you mean is that we have to be motivated to produce?" That was all, I was picking holes in your use of language.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

And I back you up. The spark before the flame.

[@pavlovshouse77]

Wow. I’m off to the book store, probably the used one is where I’ll find her work. First time I’ve heard her speak. She’s……provocative.

[@johnnynick3621]

Her books are still being printed and sold today. Her novels, specifically The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged and We The Living are excellent primers for her philosophy: Objectivism.

[@pavlovshouse77]

@@johnnynick3621 thanks, I will check them out.

[@armageddonready4071]

Brings a little light to recents events. Nothing has changed, nor will it ever.

[@macrondo5852]

Daaaaamn that truth bomb

[@nopasaran3561]

That r3tard bomb u mean...

[@killabee9473]

Why? Did she say Free Palestine in the end? I turned it off before then.

[@EvolvedBonobo]

There is an excellent talk entitled "5 Myths About Israel and the War in Gaza" on the Making Sense podcast. Well worth a listen.

[@Thatsthewayoftheworld]

And the terror continues while they blame the victims.

[@KhordKitty]

If I held a child hostage in my basement for an extended period of time in America, I'd go to jail for decades. Now, that we have the entire population of Palestinians doing the same thing, the west gives them a moral pass thanks to the soft bigotry of low expectations. The population will claim Israel oppresses Palestinians, but they'll never say Hamas oppresses Arabs. That's ultimately why their situation will never improve.

[@ilan_NahshOn]

October 7 ...Check on-line the Hamas and Iskamic jihad atrocities.

[@jamesbrent2504]

Phil is looking for moral equivalence where it doesn't exist.

[@jonnwins]

Wow. Moral equivalence, equality, exists for all by definition. Just wow.

[@djwestbrook36]

Between Israel and Palestine… one is the aggressor. One is the one that displaced, one that is committing apartheid…yeah their is no moral equivalence.

[@StuMarston]

She put an end to that nonsense tout suite.

[@adamp2426]

You're right, it doesn't. One side enacted ethnic cleansing, pograms & land theft to bring their state into being, while keeping the other side in open air prisons.

[@whatname4613]

@@StuMarston nonsense? Rand looks as primitive to me as a Neanderthal.

[@Ailsworth]

You see how Donahue had a special stage for this show? A huge audience with little Miss Rand in the center, so he could thrash her to great applause. But she steam-rolled over them all. AND Donahue apologized to her for the abominable treatment and asked her to return. She did. And he wasn't so snarky the second time.

[@7x779]

He was a liberal hack and a professional expert at doing just that

[@michaelmisczuk1188]

Tx.

[@adamp2426]

She just regurgitated Israeli propaganda, nothing more. Israel ethnically cleansing people, but they're savages, so it's ok..

[@damienflinter4585]

"...she steam-rolled over them all." Just like that Israeli bulldozer steam-rolled over Rachel Corrie. Very civi£i$€d.

[@thorinbane]

You are projecting.

[@Yusuave]

Germans circa 1933 had the same views about her tribe. I guess "never again" only applies if you're jewish.

[@rmartin9426]

It’s a shame we can’t have unbridled, direct discourse like this any longer. Now the plug gets pulled if one says anything that might be perceived as offensive to anyone. It’s no way to arrive @ truth.

[@stoneymcneal2458]

Ayn Rand would be silenced in today’s world. What a sad testament on modern day American culture.

[@wallace44able]

As she should be. What if she was Arab and called the Jews savages? Zionists would lose their minds.

[@adolapointe4922]

She's completely wrong and a warmonger.

[@stoneymcneal2458]

@@adolapointe4922 Ayn Rand is a warmonger? Please explain.

[@Le_Mouton_Noir]

She is a anti-Semitic Jewish khazar, racist, supremacist

[@cynjhern]

That’s not true. We’ve actually been moving & living toward her economic model since the 1980s.

[@Mozzers84]

Rand calling people primitive savages and racists in the same sentence.

[@swee2251]

I think if she was alive today, knowing her philosophy and knowing that she was Jewish, she'd be regretting what she said. She made those comments at a time when Neo-Nazism was unheard of. And those who had right-wing nationalist thoughts didn't dare express it in public. This was a time when the WWII generation ran the world. When she said those things about a group of people, right-wing nationalists were far from her mind.

[@taab84]

most of zionists are contradictory people

[@anon-iraq2655]

in another statement she says most of arabs are nomads, i refuse to believe she's that ignorant, that's what jews do sprout nonsense and hope it sticks

[@BrunoM101]

I fail to see how an assessment of a group's technological advancement level and intelligence has to do with race.

[@lamalamalex]

Where’s the lie though!? 😂😂

[@fedorbican6145]

Mmmmkayyy ....Rand was born Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum on February 2, 1905, into a Jewish bourgeois family living in Saint Petersburg in what was then the Russian Empire. She was the eldest of three daughters of Zinovy Zakharovich Rosenbaum, a pharmacist, and Anna Borisovna (née Kaplan).

[@Herbderpin50]

She was awesome! I wish more people were like this today, and loud 'n proud about it! Many people - especially women - who hold these beliefs are often terrified to let it be known. The pendulum is bound to swing back the other direction haaaarrd someday. I just hope we're not too far gone when that day arrives...It will be violent, unfortunately. The moral of the story is: we should always engage in constructive debate and stand up for what is right before we're pushed to the point of violence. Suppression of language will take us nowhere pleasant...

[@pantera29palms]

Phil Donahue is like PC principal…

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

Truth is always considered hate only by those who hate the truth. Wisdom to live by.

[@adamp2426]

That a Hitler quote?

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

@@adamp2426 No.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

No, you play with words.

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

@@BlueBeeMCMLXI No, I tell the truth. And it pisses off maniacs and liars everywhere. I couldn't be more proud. Bet. I don't like Ayn and HATE communists. But she told the cold hard truth about arabs.

[@grandfresh9196]

Trump..lol

[@r.j.martin1818]

NBC hasn't changed a bit since Phil Donahue's days.

[@youtubeuser206]

imagine calling arabs a bunch of primitive uncivilized savages and then accusing them of racism 😂

[@tsopmocful1958]

Stating truth isn't racism.

[@coolcatsrthebest4056]

She has a point.

[@barbaramckenzie7157]

@@tsopmocful1958 Where's the truth? Bet you've never been to an Arab city.

[@Ot-ej5gi]

@@barbaramckenzie7157 Not referring to good Arabs, just terrorists or the ones supporting terrorists. Are you dumb not to understand it yourself or just playing dumb?

[@MsElke11]

In the technological sense, the Arab World has advanced quite a bit since this year, but in the sense of respecting Israel's right to live in peace, not much!! Even with TRUMP's AVRAHAMIC ACCORDS!!

[@djolivierastro]

note : first act of modern terrorism was the bombing of King David Hotel by Irgun

[@Kalahridudex]

Menachem Begin showing Guy Fawkes how to do it right :)

[@djolivierastro]

@@golandamato4701 thanks I always prefer to hear both sides

[@TwoonyHorned]

@@golandamato4701 The military in place all said the delay was too short for evacuation: A telephone message sent 20 minutes before by Adina Haï-Nissan. Yes of course that excuses the 91 dead ... Disgusting...

[@dabprod]

Spot on then, and still holds true today. They will never change.

[@fulanichild3138]

I take it you've never been to an Arab country.

[@MrJiggerG]

@@fulanichild3138 Thank God, no!

[@SabiAll]

Indeed. The Zionists still refer to Arabs as animals.

[@Cicada-Screams]

A man with a square mustace said the same thing about them.

[@dabprod]

@@fulanichild3138 Exactly right. Never plan to either.

[@Zofirael]

As of most problems we have today... they knew exactly what the roots, causes and solutions were decades ago. No one had the balls to actually do what's right to solve them. People did what made people feel the less uncomfortable, and here we are, still suffering for stuff that should have ended generations ago.

[@MrZ1234]

Rings true to this day

[@WalterSobchakBowler]

I have a HUGE bias based on the rights of man! I've used logic to understand that free men are the only hope for mankind.

[@darkliasons]

Before "labeling" Ms Rand as crazy or any other demeaning characterzation, please do some research into her fundamental philosophy of life in general. We damage our own humanity when we resort to labeling people we don't agree with or understand. We are all "One", intricate parts of one another. When judging/labeling others, we do so of ourselves.

[@anthonycovert9113]

She literally criticized social programs her whole life and then collected social security out of necessity.

[@a.d.4536]

So Rand got back something she paid for her whiole working life. Tell me how thats welfare again???

[@megaultradamn]

Anthony was never seen/ heard from again...

[@alexxx4434]

@@a.d.4536 "Working life"?

[@tthen3]

I guess nobody told Ayn about the Nakba

[@evamurray2564]

I guess no one told you about the Jewish nakba where 900,000 jews were expelled from the surrounding Arab nations after the Arab nations and Palestinians lost the war of independence that they started in 1948. They started this war the day after the UN resolution to create Israel and Palestine passed as they could not accept a Jewish state. You probably don't know that when Jordan occupied the westbank and East Jerusalem until 1967, they ethnically cleansed all the jews. Some of these jews later returned when Israel won the 6-day pre-emptive war against Egypt in 1967. Israel was forced to attack first as Egypt had told the UN peacekeepers to leave the Sinai desert and replaced them with the Egyptian military. They also closed the canal. Israel told Jordan twice they didn't want a war but Jordan attacked anyway. Get off tik tok sound bites of nonsense and read history books.

[@tthen3]

@@evamurray2564 Nakba started two months before the Arab-Israeli war. Israel started 1967 war and didn't believe Egypt wanted to invade. Stop bullshitting people.

[@evamurray2564]

@@tthen3 ok hamas bot.

[@evamurray2564]

@tt-wq5kn the grand mufti of Jerusalem worked with the nazis long before the nakba that he caused. Quote from Wikipedia "there is no doubt that Haj Amin's hatred was not limited to Zionism, but extended to Jews as such. His frequent, close contacts with leaders of the Nazi regime cannot have left Haj Amin any doubt as to the fate which awaited Jews whose emigration was prevented by his efforts. His many comments show that he was not only delighted that Jews were prevented from emigrating to Palestine, but was very pleased by the Nazis' Final Solution"

[@tthen3]

@@evamurray2564 Just changing the subject to something else huh

[@WalterSobchakBowler]

""Oath of Loyalty to Hitler"" Read your own comment very closely. You proved me right.

[@eddivision15]

Donahue the muslim sympathizer. Well that has worked out pretty well.

[@eddivision15]

Actually she isn't. She is deceased.

[@uupstairsthomasmcnulty914]

when you can be called out for having a wider perspective, empathy and openness to understanding a variant culture... as if that was a negative thing. Eddivision, you are definitely superior for having narrowed and reductive judgements

[@dralaahamad3007]

Was this lady a member of Hagana or Irgun ?

[@rygguy88888]

why was hagana and irgun created?

[@thatguywhohassomethingtosa3513]

@@rygguy88888to protect us from the likes of the one who wrote the comment. And there was no such this as Irgun. Etzel, Lehi, and Hagana, no Irgun

[@rygguy88888]

@@thatguywhohassomethingtosa3513 exactly . Sorry I was being sassy to the person that wants to murder the secular world and create a global caliphate dark age

[@almostafa4725]

@@rygguy88888 Secularists have committed the most violence.

[@rygguy88888]

@@almostafa4725 was Mohammed secular when he attacked neighboring Asians and forced conversions around his occupied land. He’s a warlord who created a religion about himself … if only Ghengis khan, Alexander or xeres was a clever to create a religion they would be your prophet instead … your ancestors were converted to Islam with a sword to their necks .. they would want you to be free minded not bowing to those who placed to swords to them

[@alexanderzenit_8084]

I speak with the same accent - no surprise, we come from the same city of Saint Petersburg 😀

[@rampageclover9788]

1 of 5 people I’d love to host at a dinner party. Mesmerising woman, her books changed my life

[@GizmoMaltese]

She called people savages and you idolize her? Let's not forget that she thinks Christianity teaches weakness and thinks that altruism is wrong. She believes ultimately everyone is selfish and that's how it should be.

[@rampageclover9788]

@@GizmoMaltese No, she believed that individualism, self-sufficiency and not conforming to social norms was the key to growth....you just want hand outs and not have to work for anything. Altruism and dependency are two completely different things. This ADD woke generation that you're apart of play the victim way too much

[@carycimino7699]

And jewish

[@blackout07blue]

You have to be pretty stupid to fall for her bullsh*t.

[@crov43]

@@GizmoMalteseyou have to doubt about the sanity of whoever takes most of her ideas seriously, Just look at most of the comments; you can't really try to reason with them, they just see what they want to see

[@sgt_slobber.7628]

I miss the days where it was we can agree to disagree and still be respectful!!!!! Times now have radically changed for the Worst!!!!:(

[@northernlight2598]

Calling an entire people "savages" is hardly respectful!

[@sgt_slobber.7628]

@@northernlight2598 Right!!!! The actions of a few, give the rest a Bad name!!!!!:/

[@bookerwills8649]

​@@northernlight2598but it was the original commwntors bias sk its good.... satire...anyone favoring and championing ayn rand is a person that I don't want to be in association with... this isnt hyperbole, everyone I've ever hear speak favorably about her is a generally bad person... how's that for civilized op

[@dgw3650]

Rosenbaum had a lot of great points. this isn't her best stance though. her views on this country ended up in conflict with her stance against collectivist patriotism too

[@blossomyourawesome]

Love how she's so racist and then calls Arabs savages and racist. Appreciate Donahue telling her, her description came out in an angry way and "why they can't be angry at you?" She's labeling all Arabs and feeding a false narrative. So scary.

[@johnnopeyy4129]

Right? I had to take a double take to make sure I heard what I thought I heard. 😂😂

[@blossomyourawesome]

Yeah. Crazy how blatantly racist people were back in the day. I mean they still are, but generally not this free and brazen today.

[@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573]

You're a woman. You'd be stoned in the Middle East if you were seen in public without a headscarf or a male companion. You have no idea how the world works.

[@segineseju464]

When one says American students are protesting on campuses. Does it mean all American students are protesting on campuses? Or when we say Americans voted Trump to be president. Does it mean it's all Americans that voted Trump?

[@stephenwinchester6668]

She had me at “totally primitive savages” 🥰

[@OMAR-vq3yb]

There's the little 'Adolf'.

[@Intifada1981]

I bet she did you fuckin racist incel

[@FireScorpion254]

savages who brought you algorithms and medicine!! smh

[@hunterhunter106]

@@FireScorpion254 and then they did an about-face and marched back into the caveman days.

[@theesteward9150]

Fuck islam. May the Arabs be free from their enslavement of dogma

[@mikewassef8172]

So the Arabs are racist but you calling them (all of them) savages, almost primitive, terrorists is not??

[@garyjohnstone6422]

it is true, facts are not racist

[@JanWest24]

@@garyjohnstone6422 if you're trying to paint everyone from an ethnic group as genetically predisposed to negative characteristics, guess who you sound like? You can make all the excuses you want but you're basically repeating eugenics talking points

[@garyjohnstone6422]

Look at your record​@@JanWest24

[@JanWest24]

@@garyjohnstone6422 what does the average mass shooter looks like again?

[@garyjohnstone6422]

Yeah

[@lorq3370]

This is the moment on the Phil Donahue show when "woke" started.

[@Kaleabs22]

Wasn't she a jew herself? Now i see many people admiring the freedom of speech of those times and her straightforwardness. But what if someone else said something in the same fashion, but about the jews? You think there won't be cries about 'anti semitism' even back then? Let someone talk about the Jewish conspiracy and see how many people would still admire the freedom of speech.

[@drewskij2175]

What do you mean what if? Thousands on every college campus in America are saying exactly that.

[@bene4478]

These people are so afraid of freedom of speech Ron DeSantis signed HB 269 in Florida (ceremonially signed it in Israel first of course).

[@ownedbymykitty270]

@@drewskij2175Correct but they’re getting doxxed and losing employment. Sucking Israeli d!ck is the right-wing’s version of cancel culture.

[@Kaleabs22]

@@bene4478 well, it won't surprise me if the Jews twist this bill for their own purpose of silencing any criticism towards them.

[@AnhTuPhucDerrickHoangCanada]

when an immovable object collides with a unstoppable force, the viewer changes.

[@sumanadasawijayapala5372]

2:08 Somebody should've asked Ayn's position on the King David Hotel bombing.

[@WalterSobchakBowler]

but she was not asked.How can we now expect her accurate reply??

[@danethekid1]

or the USS Liberty

[@ReuvenGoldstein1]

The King David Hotel bombing was absolutely necessary. The British had documents that they could have used to imprison Ben-Gurion and Golda Meir. The Israelis could not take this risk Remember, it was the British headquarters, not a civilian target.

[@ReuvenGoldstein1]

***** I did not say they were justified nor did I say I supported it. Only that it was necessary and understandable. America was founded by terrorism as well.

[@pjlu2]

Reuven Goldstein sweet trolling

[@reeyees50]

Aged horribly in 2024

[@FrogLehane]

It hasn't aged at all, it's still the propaganda today and people still believe and repeat it.

[@destroya3303]

She happens to be ethnically Jewish. Just so happens.

[@herrgolf]

I know . No coincidence

[@sazenycbx]

Looks like a Slav to me. Real Jews are Semites. Not these Russian-Ukrainian Slavic garbage.

[@user-or6yn8pm3c]

She was aggressively pro white and anti diversity which would put her in conflict with her people today.

[@user-np2yj4pr8h]

I have detested her for years on the basis of her dehumanizing and selfish philosophy.

[@FL_Cottonmouth]

Coincidence detected.

[@ConcernedCitizen5514]

Her explanation that the Palestinians didn't like Israel because Israel is technologically advanced seems ridiculous - did Americans actually believe this was the reason for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict in the early 1980s?

[@cla1814]

The only reason why Israel is technologically advanced is because they are a Parasite of the USA.