What Happens When a RV Hits a Wall?

[@NigelM18]

Jeepers. I hope the people who towed it and damaged it is liable for it. People need to held accountable for damaging someone's property.

[@AZExpert]

nope, they were not.

[@dougconllin3006]

When they tow wrecked vehicles they don't hold liability for damage, so this can be a good example of a driver who may not of cared or didn't have a lot of experience.

[@RLBS61]

Looks totaled to me but if anybody can fix it you are the man.Get-Er-dun.Please do videos on repairs and finished RV.

[@AZExpert]

I will thanks!

[@hillbillyrv]

That's a pretty big job. Please give us updates along the way.

[@AZExpert]

I will. Thanks!

[@GinosGarageUSA]

Definitely would like to see updates of this. It’s amazing how they prefab the floor.. would have not ever thought they would do it like that.. good info.. thanks for the inside look.. This is part of the reason I own a Wanderlodge.

[@AZExpert]

Definitely!!

[@rockernw7191]

Kick ass video! Love seeing all the build details! Thank you, Thank you!

[@philw7174]

Yikes. My hat is off to you taking on this massive project. Interesting video, thanks James. Happy trails!

[@AZExpert]

It was an undertaking for sure

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

What an incredible project! I would love to see occasional updates from you, please. Maybe just once in a while, you have enough on your plate already. Thank you so much!

[@terry.zechman]

Love your comments on the Tiffin build quality. Would like updates to this repair. Thank you for your informative videos!

[@AZExpert]

Thanks, will do!

[@petercolquhoun2086]

It would be great to see progress on this rebuild. Even just a time lapse camera would be interesting.

[@AZExpert]

I will

[@homeauthorityllc]

You are truly a master of your craft! The Force is strong in you!

[@AZExpert]

Thank you for the kindness!

[@noahbluesky1218]

So glad you shared this, really look forward to following the rebuild. I am renovating and rebuilding a 94 HR Navigator. Really interested in videos like this! Thanks again, look forward to the next one 💯

[@hayyarbrough]

Man oh man that's a lot of work... thank you for sharing✌🏼✌🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🏁

[@AZExpert]

it is, but its also fun work!

[@ThePeopleVerse]

This is almost unbelievable ... in as I am amazed at 2 things and not how it is constructed but 2 other things. One is the tow driver. What on earth were any of the people involved in this RV's towing thinking about when making their decisions on how yo bring it in off the road?!? The other is WOW .... finding a full front cap with all the fixins is pretty amazing to me. No grafting, splicing or dicing. Don't know if that is SOP or dumb luck, but dang....pretty cool.

[@AZExpert]

Happens frequently with rentals.

[@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076]

I would imagine this would be an electrical nightmare once completed things usually are not the same after being wrecked like this but your work is great definitely spot on

[@AZExpert]

not too bad, most of the connection were at the factory bulkhead plugs and RV wiring never looks good unless it's a bus conversion. Thanks

[@clarencewiles963]

Wow that’s amazing amount of work!

[@badgerpa9]

I hope they where not hurt bad. That should be a change from what you do and not a roof replacement. I am sure when you are done it will be worth every bit of $200K again. At least you have plenty to do for the next couple months. Obviously would love any updates you can do, but I understand how much time that takes and you need to work and finish this. Stay safe and healthy thank you for the video I learn from everyone.

[@markstench4470]

Wow , WOW!!! What a mess, I hope no one was hurt. That's not a big job, that's a career.....

[@AZExpert]

I don't think anyone was hurt. Sometimes it's fun to do projects like this....but sometimes not too!

[@Thesaltymedic36]

I’m at a loss for words why they towed it like that. They should be held liable for that damage. Totally unnecessary. I was on a simple motorcycle crash once. A HD Roadking. Guy basically rolled off the bike at slow speed, medical issue. The bike was on the front and rear crash bars. Just sitting there. Cops called a tow truck. I asked why. I put the kickstand down, walked it back and set it on the kickstand. Started it. Drove it to the shoulder. Yes, I ride. His buddies asked if they could drive it home. Officer???? Ok I guess it’s fine. Yes, it’s safe to ride. 🤦🏼. They rode it home. They should have drove that RV off the road. Use a wrecker to wheel tow it. Good luck 👍🏼

[@AZExpert]

It had to go across country and the state police demanded it be wrapped as the front was losing pieces.

[@Thesaltymedic36]

@@AZExpert figures . 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Chris_A_]

Reading the video description and viewing to timestamp 0:18, my first thought brought me back to my childhood, where I witnessed a truck camper being blown over at speed on the highway. The camper exploded like a house of cards. Though there were injuries to the occupants in the camper, none were life threatening. Soon after witnessing the accident, my Dad traded in our beloved truck and camper for an Open Road Class A, which touted a steel safety cage. FYI, we never had the chance to test the safety cage structural integrity and Open Road's safety claim. My wife and I will retire in 2 years. Viewing the channel has educated us to the build quality of diesel pushers. We are considering a Prevost XL based coach, a late 90's Newell, or a HDT RV Conversion and a stacker trailer with living quarters. We do not plan to full time RV. Rather, we plan to return to homebase mid November through early March. Recommendations or comments?

[@AZExpert]

Rent before you buy

[@jwrappuhn71]

Great vid James, why didn't the insurance company just total it out?

[@AZExpert]

I'll try to explain

[@durakingdiesel]

I'm going to guess this is around 60k for the repairs if not more. cheaper than replacing a new diesel pusher also with covid rv values have gone up making it harder to total these things.

[@elcaminomant]

Wow! I'm trying to wrap my head around how they tied it down on the trailer. Should've just chained it at the frame and axles to the deck. It's not a seatainer, you don't throw straps over and cinch it down like a box, unless you like to crush things. smh

[@Graygeezer]

I think we’re all hoping you’ll give at least some updates along the way. It’s terrible that the tow operator caused so much damage due to sheer negligence in improperly securing the RV.

[@AZExpert]

I will give updates.

[@austinterrill3108]

@azexpert. What's the cost of that r.v. vs the final cost of the repair/rebuild of everything.?

[@robertthompson6958]

What a mess. Wires and hoses everywhere. Glad you’re involved James. Maybe you’ll take us along when you can. I’m guessing 50k to 70k in repairs. Am I close?

[@AZExpert]

I will definitely give updates!

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

is it worth fixing? it looks like so much work, mind boggling Thanks James!

[@AZExpert]

I think so. Even 2018 Reds are 230k

[@enotsbob1]

James, love your show. Are many of the wires in the Tiffin Red you're rebuilding individually labeled every few inches as they are on my 2005 Beaver Monterey ?

[@AZExpert]

no they are not sadly

[@richardcorcorran8965]

Omg, how many hours (weeks) was that booked for

[@AZExpert]

Oh, I'm hoping to have it done by January, paint and all.

[@dinosaur6756]

Including the paint job and the interior work I can't believe the insurance company didn't consider it a total loss. Crazy.

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain in the next video.

[@earlribaudo4807]

The value of the Tiffen dosen't campare to the cost of repairing it. The tow company should be responsible for the paint on the sides.

[@rickc9873]

I applaud you for taking this job on ! What’s your timeframe ?

[@AZExpert]

Hopefully complete by January

[@squirrely1926]

Great video, they sure don’t look like they are structurally sound. I am surprised they actually stay together driving down the road. Lol

[@AZExpert]

you and me both, that's why I took it on a long test drive

[@stevebrookins3980]

Cool video. Thanks for sharing!

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@AmericanMX]

Is it really economically worth rebuilding? Especially after the damage from the tow driver?

[@AZExpert]

This is an insurance claim, so yes

[@theresasalazar5822]

😧 They are beautiful coaches

[@AZExpert]

They are my favorite diesel pushers and manufacturer.

[@enjoyingretirement4846]

Not news to you but those tow truck straps are heavy duty and ratchet down with some incredible force. From the looks of that damage I would be very concerned about wall structure damage now. Wonder if that coach will now have a rebuild title? You know it will be sold as soon as you finish it. The next guy could be clueless of the past major damage if not. Thanks for the video. .

[@franklogan494]

Great Video James!! How long does the Insurance Company give you to Rebuild the Rv?

[@AZExpert]

our goal is to be done by January

[@franklogan494]

@@AZExpert Thank you!

[@virginialangley1793]

Want to see as you work on this RV....thanks

[@AZExpert]

Coming soon!

[@marchalpeck470]

Maybe the tow company thought it was totaled, but that does not excuse the damages. I just hope they have good insurance. Well good luck on the rebuild, keep us fans posted on progress.

[@AZExpert]

They were only contracted to deliver it and paid up front soooooo

[@marchalpeck470]

@@AZExpert the still have to insurance so they should pay for the repairs they caused

[@marchalpeck470]

@@AZExpert the only loophole would be if the damages were not noted on the bill of lading. Then they could claim they did not cause the damage. Good luck

[@pault1964]

I wasn’t happy that my windscreen washers weren’t working,looking at your work mine is insignificant

[@AZExpert]

Well this one's not working either....lol :)

[@pault1964]

@@AZExpert you have easier access than me

[@j.l.thomas3912]

Wow, what a mess! You must be a magician to put that back together again. I would be be interested in seeing your progress.

[@AZExpert]

Not a magician, just stubborn. I will give updates.

[@ericgregory3005]

Please do a rebuild series on this one.

[@AZExpert]

I will

[@fmerkl]

I'' ll be watching !!

[@chrisfoxwell4128]

If I missed it I'm sorry but do you know at what speed the impact happened?

[@mcasteel2112]

He hit a squirrel

[@AZExpert]

I heard 35 mph

[@tedshaw8291]

What is the estimated repair cost and what is the approximate value of that year RV it looks total to me

[@timpearn9383]

I think that's the thing that scares me about a pusher. There's not much to absorb impact from a crash. At least with a super C you have a lot of engine and frame in front to help absorb impact.

[@AZExpert]

True

[@soillife1]

Did the owner have insurance 🤔? I would think this unit would be totaled. It will be interesting to watch. I just spent 2 days at. Vision rv salvage East Bernstadt For servicing on our way to Florida

[@AZExpert]

Funny you should mention that. I'll try to explain better in the next video.

[@mruofacat]

Looks like a massive project to me. I have questions. What did they hit ? Was anyone hurt ? and Why wasn't it totaled?

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@legodoug6046]

People who are looking to buy a bus/rv should see this video. I drove an MCI for years and in an accident you destroy the front of the coach back to the front wheels

[@AZExpert]

Yes, the monocoque shell is the best and worse feature of buses. Best for build, comfort, strength but worse for repair. Thanks!

[@leongeesey5910]

Is this being rebuilt for the original owner. Or did someone buy it at insurance auction. And having you rebuild it

[@AZExpert]

I will try to address that in the next video.

[@AZdirtdog]

Did he strap it down like lumber? I would be checking roof for cracks. What a hack

[@AZExpert]

I cannot explain their thought process. It's very upsetting for sure.

[@rjahn3000]

Looks very similar to the Allegro Red that ran into the service bay at Tiffin....?

[@the_lenny_draper]

I was curious if this could be that bus.

[@AZExpert]

*Ding ding*

[@pierrejobin6113]

I guess you have your work cut out for you WOW! How long you figure for a complete RV?

[@AZExpert]

To build an RV?

[@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51]

just like a jigsaw puzzle , one step at a time ,, it will get there ,,I have seen worst put back on the road at least its quality to start with James ..

[@AZExpert]

Yes, being a Tiffin does make the process better too.

[@robb.7078]

Wow thats a lot of work. Is this an insurance job? In general terms what does a repair like this cost?

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@marlinbuild]

Do you have to replace any headliner material

[@AZExpert]

No, I think we will be okay with this one. Just had to replace the front ceiling brace

[@randycarston986]

Hey is this the motorhome that the mad drunk lady smashed through the sevice bay door and into another new unit at the tiffin service facility last year? it looks suspicious

[@AZExpert]

lol, I don't think so, but I did hear about that. No doubt Tiffin would have re-built it if it was.

[@scottconnell8167]

Wow where do you start You get that back together you can work on my motorhome anytime

[@VideoByPatrick]

Did you ever update these wrecks ? Please, not another "thank you for watching" comment.

[@AZExpert]

Yes I have a whole playlist on this Allegro Red kzbin.info/aero/PLaUXLoeMlBheBPT6bxLIeFSJcNnRXNwAj

[@VideoByPatrick]

@@AZExpert Fantastic, I didn't see that link in the earlier posts. Great work.

[@johncarter9054]

WoW ! Prefab is certainly easier than repair.

[@jpbassseniorbasssenior323]

Wow that was more like a basket case 😳what a puzzle

[@AZExpert]

it can be fun to put a puzzle together, thanks

[@tombeilman5579]

Isn’t there a structural roll bar in the front? Looks totaled to me and I assume it will be a salvage title

[@AZExpert]

There is no crash safety requirements on these at all

[@richardmckrell4899]

Slightly stronger than a paper bag.

[@AZExpert]

Slightly

[@williamlambert2865]

Looks to me a drunk woman got tired of waiting on a bay to get repairs and ran it through the bay door. She should checked if there was another coach in the that bay.....lol

[@AZExpert]

LOL, I'm pretty sure this isn't that coach

[@darthgoggins1747]

I remember a story about a couple waiting at the Tiffin service center and the drunk wife got angry and drove the RV through the service center door. Just saying. Oh hey I just watched a video review last night on Matt's RV reviews of a new travel trailer and when he went on the roof I could see small balloon spots in the roofing material straight from the factory.

[@AZExpert]

I heard about that too. What a crazy world sometimes.

[@darthgoggins1747]

@@AZExpert is it really worth the rebuild costwise ? Wouldn't it be better just to total it out for parts ? I wouldn't know just seems extreme.

[@frankandricciola9782]

Wow, that is a monumental repair. Had to have been a write off. Interesting to see that even a coach of that name brand still could use a better build quality. I noticed that the aluminum frame work was just tacked in tbt corners. Can they not run a bead of weld ? Like come on people..

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@AJ-hm5ck]

Please show progress reports.....very interesting!

[@AZExpert]

I will for sure, it's almost done inside already.

[@dennisbutler349]

What is the insurance repair estimate?

[@AZExpert]

I'll try to address that in the next video

[@DLTJR1959]

When you finish with this job can you give us an estimate of your total hours and a ballpark cost to do this repair? I would have thought that this much damage would result in a parts bus. Really enjoy your content. Much appreciated.

[@AZExpert]

I can try, thanks!

[@ronniecardy]

So they are going to rebuild it ! Going to cost close to a good used one maby more. Btw. Kentucky has a few salvage yards

[@AZExpert]

Well, it would have been much cheaper if the tow company hadn't damaged it so much worse.

[@Andy-cw3kx]

GREAT VIDEO.

[@AZExpert]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@TheMinnow101]

That's easily got to be $30 grand or more in repairs. Did insurance total it and now your rebuilding it as a salvage title ?

[@AZExpert]

I will try to address that in the next video.

[@harrycee656]

The ratchets could have been easily covered to protect the coach.... What a shame. I had to be towed out because I slide off the road in winter. Had to sign a waiver for damage liability. Tow truck driver proceed to connect to a rod on the multilink suspension. I told him he needed to wrap it around the rear suspension craddle. He said he has been doing this for a decade and and expert. I had to threaten to get another driver for him to correctly wrap around the rear suspension cradle. He later said it was a good idea, since those links he attached to bends after pulling the car out because they are weak but easy to get to 😒. Hopefully, this non towing novice taught the expert something that day. 😆

[@AZExpert]

it's very upsetting still when I see all the pointless strap damage.

[@mikeallensonntag]

Boy I'm surprised the insurance didn't total that, that has to be like atheist 60k worth of damage.

[@Riker-eq2yv]

Is the towing company responsible for the damage they caused? They should be.

[@AZExpert]

no, they are not, unfortunately.

[@Inpreesme]

Thank you

[@AZExpert]

You're welcome

[@jeffcecchini3588]

Oh wow! That's a huge job. I've wondered about the safety of class A's in a front end collision. Doesn't seem like there's much to protect the driver. The tow truck company should be responsible for all the sides patch & paint

[@AZExpert]

The do offer a surprising amount of protection against cars and trucks.

[@jeffcecchini3588]

@@AZExpert ok, good to know, as that's been concerning to us in our selection between class A & class C.

[@ckm-mkc]

Is the insurance or owner paying for this or was this bought at salvage? As a side note - I've built a number of boats, worked on even more and am surprised by how 'primitively' most RVs are built. I know it's a totally different environment, but given how expensive some of these are, I would expect better construction techniques, esp. since there is not much additional cost involved (although more knowledge & perhaps skill).

[@AZExpert]

There is some truth there. Unlike boats and planes though, these don't fall out of the sky or sink when they break, so much more forgiving on failures.

[@raychambers3646]

As J Leno says your first on the scene in an accident with an RV (semi quote) .

[@rictech1325]

You try and get your RV in for warranty work? Or just to look at something minimal? You say we can get you in ? In 2 months, and then 2-3 weeks after that ... but !!!! Someone is playing ping pong in the back ground..

[@AZExpert]

It's a tennis court in the background lol

[@josecorreia8280]

hi so can buy new parts?

[@NigelM18]

Heck yeah for this new of a year I'm sure they are mostly available. In our case this summer... a 2001 Newmar Dutchstar DP some creeps tried to break into it at the storage yard and destroyed the metal frame all around the entry door. We just got a whole new complete door from Newmar that cost about 7K

[@AZExpert]

Yes, Tiffin is very good with parts. This required much more and we lucked out completely with a salvage yard.

[@thewiseguy3529]

$80,000 RV repair!!!!! Why???? Lol 😂 How did this turn out? Or did it ever turn out? Would love to hear the rest of the story

[@lutomson3496]

Thanks for sharing those welds at 1:57 dont look that good and the tops dont even look welded...

[@AZExpert]

just on one side. The frame only supports screws from the fuel door

[@1hasbeen531]

A good reminder of why to buy a Super C, instead.

[@AZExpert]

I think I understand

[@DavidHBurkart]

The tow company increased repair cost by about 10,000-12,000. They should be reported to the insurance company.

[@AZExpert]

Yeah, they felt no ownership for any of the damage

[@squirrely1926]

Come on, how can someone afford to fix something like that. How much time do you think you’ll take to finish this project

[@AZExpert]

it's done, took some time for sure about six months total but with long pauses. faster than most classic car re-builds :)

[@KevinCoop1]

At least it's not just a roof reseal only. 😋

[@AZExpert]

LOL!

[@guystewart6239]

the towing company should have to pay for most of the paint job.

[@randyhuey3094]

Why wasn't it totaled by the insurance company?, was it because the damage was primarily cosmetic?, it seems the owner would be without the RV for a long time while it is being rebuilt, I wouldn't be happy as an owner.

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@brianlanglois4086]

This just makes me want to RUN out and buy one of these Large pieces of JUNK.

[@AZExpert]

Thanks for watching!

[@michellebarlondsmith6243]

Ow that hurts not sure what happened but owwwwww

[@AZExpert]

me either, but it will get better.....I hope!

[@jimvincent6408]

Seriously, where's the money in this rebuild? A used Tiffen coach which costs maybe $130k in good condition with your labor on this probably around $35k+ to repair. I see a parts coach all day long here. Cudos to the positive attitude but I wouldn't want to own this wreck after its repaired, leaks, rattles, blah!

[@AZExpert]

A used 2018 Tiffin Red is $220k on sale today

[@jimvincent6408]

@@AZExpert Ahh ok then I see your point thanks for the info

[@gjhoddy]

Surprisingly not totaled by Insurance Co.

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

You fixing this for insurance? Looks like a auction sale. I’m sure it will be better than new but wow 😳 paint cost 15gs . Damn wrecker. Start in the rear and drive like Chad. imgur.com/a/UPjOrqw . Body tore off the frame. Left the driver in the seat. Monocoque frame for me. Only one left is Prevost. That’s why I own a Wandeloge. Still fiberglass caps. Rest is steel.

[@AZExpert]

A wrecker did that?

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

@@AZExpert My bad. Must have been a low boy (with strapping). That is why I have FMCA. They will find a Landoll and pay to get it to you states away.

[@bobr6078]

Looks like a candidate from CoPart

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@pault1964]

No structural damage only cosmetic

[@AZExpert]

I mean some structure in the sidewalls and firewall, but nothing chassis or on the steering.

[@rickc9873]

I guess it was Totaled by Insurance Co.

[@AZExpert]

I will try to explain better in the next video.

[@rickc9873]

@@AZExpert Sounds complicated

[@ynAMe6Aj]

How can you avoid a tow operator who will damage your RV so seriously?

[@AZExpert]

Tow trucks are generally called when its an emergency. The only way I know is to be around when they are towing and take lots of photos.

[@tedshaw8291]

As a truck driver once that total RV is giving to the tow truck driver he is responsible for it most important of all for something falling off coming loose hitting someone on the highway all of that is collateral damage that half million dollar motorhome is just a road hazard a broken toy

[@AZExpert]

Absolutely, I understand they are responsible for things falling off in transit. I'd say they shouldn't have quoted the job if they couldn't deliver it without destroying it. But these are the risk everyone takes buying and selling I guess. Thanks

[@falcon7350]

i did this to my RV as will but my job was alot bigger then this one ,, aaa fun times

[@AZExpert]

wow! bigger than this? Nice work!

[@panthersblow]

Man, you guys are auto-mechanics, auto-body techs, plumbers, electricians, HVAC techs, framers, welders, painters...is there anything you guys cant do?

[@AZExpert]

Heal the sick :D Unless the sick is an RV

[@kenj.8897]

Never let your wife drive period . Lol . Someone had to say it .I bet their insurance drops them .

[@AZExpert]

I am not sure what happened to the owners.