Can you drive a BMW M2 F87 Daily?

[@azizdrives]

🚨 Friends, I know you might be upset, but it’s important for me to be honest with you. I don’t want to pretend that I like this car more than the M2 Competition or that I think it’s a better buy-because it’s not. The M2 Competition is more brutal, more stable, and drives better. The engine is also more efficient, producing less and using less fuel. In every way, it’s a superior car. The sound experience is better, and you don’t need to tune it to enjoy a fast car. With the OG M2, you have to tune it just to get a somewhat fast car-that’s just my opinion. * Car didn’t have OPF i thought it had because its a 2018 *

[@lucwijngaard8413]

You're making me cry with these older BMW designs, we didn't even realize how lucky we were at the time!

[@robinkeller9314]

I own and track a 2017 M2 (since 2017). Best car ever, never any issue, and the power/weight ratio is great. But of course, I spec mine in manual, wich gives it way more M charachter ;)

[@nicolasch7039]

bmw manual gearboxes are pretty shiet

[@robinkeller9314]

70k kms most on track and still going great, not sure you can call that « shiet »

[@zdx197]

Just my two cents between the F87 OG M2 vs M2 Comp. The OG M2 with the (improved) EWG N55 is a bit more charming because of the simplicity (not only esthetically). The engine sounds (in my and many others opinion) better than the S55, a bit like more oldskool straight 6 BMW's, and with a manual shifter this car is as close as it gets to a oldskool BMW driving experience with a little bit of modern sauce. Just put some coilovers, a better intercooler and a simple tune on that thing, and it won't be the fastest on a straight line but I guarantee it will give you more smiles than a high horsepower DCT M2 comp that will constantly skid all over the place if you add too much power without adapting the rest of the car. If you want the more modern - slightly more mean - looking (revised exterior changes and interior such as the "better" seats etc.) with the S55 engine which obviously gives access to more horsepower much easier (although keep a crankhub fix in mind to avoid a potential ticking timebomb) then the M2 competition is for you. I've driven a variety of fast to very fast cars myself from multiple spectrums (incl old and new bmw / jdm) and what I've learned is that at the end of the day the car that gives me the most emotion is the one that I'll prefer to drive, and that surely isn't always the most modern or high horsepower one.

[@azizdrives]

Thank you very much for your message and your detailed description. I agree with you on most points. However, there is one thing I want to point out regarding why I said it’s not a real M car in my opinion-the engine. I have driven various M3s and M4s, both newer and older models, and they all felt like they were giving everything they had to offer. With the M2, however, it feels like they held back a bit. The car could have been more brutal, with more power, especially considering the engine’s potential. It seems like the engine has much more to give than what they’ve allowed it to deliver. This is why I would personally prefer the M2 Competition.

[@zdx197]

@@azizdrives I understand what you're saying, the S55 feels more brutal in stock form and differentiates itself from other engines BMW offered in that timeline by being more extreme thus classifiying it in that more exclusive "M segment". The N55 might have done that a bit less in that regard. We just see this point from a slightly different perspective I guess as for me the N55 from the OG M2 (especially with sportcat and M performance exhaust) sounds so freakin good and much better than any S55 (even equal length midpipe ones). But for power goals N55 it's not the go-to, for that we have S55/B58/S58.. Always appreciate your opinion though. Your car content is cool because you really give your own personal experience, and sometimes having a different viewing angle doesn't mean you're wrong, it creates interesting discussion. It's the same with me and my irl petrolhead friends, half of the times we don't agree but it opens doors to interesting viewing angles 😁 Keep doing what you're doing man, continue not giving a F and don't become mainstream 💯

[@Dokepredator]

The detuned S55 in the M2 comp feels terrible... OG M2 is much better stock vs stock. I don't know what you mean.

[@IonicMAP]

@@Dokepredator feels terrible in what way? IMO S55 feels significantly stronger, more precise and rewarding than the N55 in the OG, stock for stock

[@thestigsczechcousin4295]

@zdx197 i own a 2020 M2 CS with the S55 and i totally understand your love for the N55. The S55 in the CS is far too aggressive, the car wants to skid in every corner to the point where you cant even enjoy the car properly on some nice tight back roads. The S55 is more powerful but having driven all the versions of the F87 (OG, C, CS), the OG’s N55 was the best fit for the F87 chassis. I’ve been looking at buying an OG M2 alongside the CS but having 2 M2’s is quite honestly stupid since i already have many other cars. Thanks for your nice message and i wish you many happy stress free miles with the OG M2! Enjoy!

[@zdx197]

N55 from the 235 * you mean Aziz, (240 has the B58)

[@azizdrives]

Exactly Sorry, i said M235i somewhere later!

[@zdx197]

@@azizdrives all good brotha :D

[@Sturdy6]

@azizdrives you can't be sorry. This is unacceptable. You just lost a subscriber buddy.

[@Bahle_Gaji]

@@Sturdy6dont play with him like that 😂

[@AsifLicious]

Aziz Moj brate! I’m so happy you’re finally reviewing the OG M2. I’ve had mine for a year now and put 25k miles on it and it’s been a blast

[@OGBemfa]

Thanks for the insight on the OG M2! Fingers crossed the prices take a dip soon haha.

[@Formastigor]

thanks for your recent e46 330ci insight

[@OGBemfa]

@Formastigor Oh hahah, np np 😅

[@robinkeller9314]

They already did, a lot 😂

[@OGBemfa]

​@@robinkeller9314 Depends on where you are. Really hard to find one below 40k Euros where I live.

[@blackland1233]

Is there ever any sun in Switzerland :D ? Thanks for great reviews

[@azizdrives]

@blackland1233 sadly not hahah

[@Levente20]

thats my carrrrrrrrrrr yess. F87 N55. i have it since 2017 in long beach blue.

[@alphahuntz2924]

fell in love with this car when i saw it in person. despite the hate, i love this car and i hope i can own one.

[@johnny2156]

Sorry it’s not the normal N55 from the 335i. It’s a whole lot different from forged internals from M4 and many other things. It’s the latest and best version of the N55.

[@azizdrives]

I meant the M235i engine and yes it has been adjusted and made better by M with the Cooling, a forged crankshaft, but compared to the M2 Competition it just feels a little less M

[@johnny2156]

@@azizdrives not the same even to the m235i. I’m talking because I had both of them 👍 and the difference in driving one to another is holly shit type of difference

[@DaleSteel]

Your correct but it's still a poo engine compared to S55

[@equinox9520]

You're glazing gold plated poop

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

​@@DaleSteelS55 is junk. Get over it. Sounds shit and a b58 rags it.

[@mavhuthudombo6918]

I think fuel economy, discipline and behavior when driving this beauty day is the true test 😂 to wether you can.

[@vladts]

I own an identical one. Same colour, also LCI. But it's a manual. First of all, there is a big fuel economy gap between ron95 and Ron 98. You should always use 98. This explains why at the beginning of the drive the fuel economy was good as it probably had Ron 98 in the tank before and as it switched to Ron 95 ignition timing it impacted the fuel economy. Mine also consumes more than you would expect, it's never terrible but also never good. I didn't really get the OPF comment at the end: the M2 doesn't have one, the Comp has it and probably they made extra efforts to extend the lambda = 1 zone and limit the use of fuel enrichment. Otherwise the N55 and S55 are quite similar and the elements that influence usually the fuel consumption are identical (vanos, valvetronic, ign coils, spark plugs, etc..)

[@azizdrives]

@@vladts it had 95 in the tank before otherwise i wouldn‘t have put it in. The car has a Grail exhaust system on it anyway. Its a 2018.6 Model so i assumed it had opf because the sound was really not that good actually i expected a little more, you are right tho the M2 Comp had opf. Thanks for sharing will add it to the comment section pinned

[@vladts]

​​​@@azizdrives Much appreciated 🙏 I am aligned with most of your comments. Mine has a bigger intercooler, aluminum charge pipe, BM3 stage 1, and a 200 cell catalyst, so it sounds and goes as it should have come from factory. I am still surprised by your comment about the handling relative to the Comp, because they have identical suspension and brakes. The Comp though is about 50kg heavier at the front due to the engine, and maybe that gives it a more intuitive feel. However, I am disappointed that BMW had on the shelf both the M3 seats and the B58 engine and didn't use them for this car. It would have been an even bigger hit.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

​@@vladtsOctane rating has jack shit to do with fuel economy. You have been brainwashed.

[@hugomota3696]

All BMW engines are tuned for 95 and in the manual even says that is not gain of performance or economy by using a higher octane ratio.

[@vladts]

​@@hugomota3696 for the M2 BMW "recommends" Ron 98 and "accepts a minimum of" Ron 95.

[@F30.Emmanuel]

This is peak interieur design. Think what you want but its good quallity, everything is very easy to use, itlooks great aswell. Not like the new ones with 1000 apps and just one ugly screen on which you spend 10 minutes to find seat heating or climate control. But that is just my unpopular opinion.

[@azizdrives]

@@F30.Emmanuel you are right its functional and classic, its just a little out Dated

[@nurburgringuk]

I couldn’t agree more regarding the new car dash designs, couldn’t have said it better myself. Believe me it’s not an unpopular opinion, it’s the opposite, I’ve not spoken to anyone that thinks these new interiors are better, everyone detests them!

[@DaleSteel]

I had a M2 comp AC SCHNITZER edition 500bhp. I did daily it everyday was brilliant. Looked stunning.

[@chemselbarkani8098]

Why did you sell it

[@DaleSteel]

@chemselbarkani8098 I just bought it for the summer. I'm a car trader. I bought it at 6 month old at a very good price. Ran it over summer and amazingly I did really well and made 6k profit on it - another dealer bought it - just shows i was lucky at how cheap i got it. It was a stunning thing... had every extra even heated steering wheel and sunroof which is rare on them. The AC SCHNITZER pack was awesome had carbon everywhere. I've been lucky enough to have alot of nice cars. C63s m3 m4 m5 rs3 etc etc The m2 comp ac SCHNITZER was my fave. Second was c63s. I've never seen another m2 with ac SCHNITZER pack they are rare.

[@Formastigor]

I have been in F87 M2 comp fully track build and its insane feels wild.

[@User-210zxm1]

its perfect for daily, even if you lower it by an inch. it will clear most areas, except if you put front diffusers

[@zafert85]

That N55 is unique to the OG M2. It has forged internals. Not the same as M235 or M135 and thos cars even have stronger engines than N55 found in 335i

[@azizdrives]

@@zafert85 only the crankshaft is forged. Rest is done by cooling and so on

[@zafert85]

@@azizdrives connecting rods are also forged if i am not wrong. But I get what you mean. TBH they could have named it S56 or something and we wouldnt have known any better.

[@KubiIay]

It's a great car for beginners who want an entry-level BMW M. As an M owner, I completely understand the 'feeling.' A true M is built like a tank and feels like nothing else on the road. When you push a real M, it will shock you with its capabilities and agility, especially if it's first time driving it.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

"True M" bro what the hell are you on about 🤡🤡 Gtfoh with that gay gatekeeping

[@marcosmarquez2926]

S55 gets better fuel because of the gear ratio and also the two turbos help it but the gear ratio is way longer in the s55 do to the higher mph top speed

[@Fran_Cachu]

I get ur point but... Then i ask u: is the m3 e30 not a proper M because its engine only has 4 cylinder? Are the new G8x proper M cars, although they are too heavy and dont drift so easy? U can always found defects in every model. All M cars have something special and they are pure joy when u drive them.

[@azizdrives]

Absolutely i was just trying to explain that the m2 comp is better and in both cases they pushed the cars to the max the e30 reved almost 8k rpms and had over 200hp at that time, the m3/m4 has the s58 engine pushing 1.8bars into the engine, so really going to the max

[@gyallis4life617]

Or the 1m with the n54 😑

[@M_773]

I love the "lame" interior, even if they use 218i details in the infotainment. I hate how modern cars dramatize everything with badges and big graphics every time you change modes. Unlike many people I use comfort/sport/sport+ functionally rather than to show off or as a gimmick, and I'd love if there was a way to disable showing the change on the infotainment screen so my passengers have no idea I'm adjusting the suspension/gearbox settings for upcoming bends or to overtake etc. I like an understated interior, and to let myself extract the performance without having the car yell the cringey "M2 M5 AMG RS RACE MODE" at me.

[@Ban1l]

Aziz where is w205 c43 economy test we need it asp

[@martinmarinov505]

I havent done an economy run but its the same story after 100kph the car starts drinking fuel. The only time when its economical is when you drive under 2k rpm range. At the same time its not too bad when you pushing it. City driving 10l very economical driving. 13-14l normal spirited driving with 50-70% throttle. 17-18l pushing it hard. at 120kph i've done normal spirited driving only and it was around 10l. Which is not too far from 2.0 petrol. I think 7-8l is the least you can do if you dont drive under 90-100 kph

[@Ban1l]

i got on my c43 with 9 g tronic 6,8 on 100 km i never had over 7.5 on eco and just regular driving you must go over 130 kmh to get 2k rm on 9 g tronic :))

[@martinmarinov505]

@@Ban1l i've never done economy run outside town. Only normal spirited drive with some corners and elevation and overtaking. Noticed not more than 1l difference between little spirited drive 50-70% throttle and pushing it hard when overtaking. If there are no cars and keep 120kph all the time no braking and accelerating i could imagine i would do 7-8l but i never do that. On the autoban i dont go under 140kph most of the time at 160kph and its burning 11l with some braking and acceleration when there are cars infront of me. My average town/outside town is 12l but its far from normal driving mostly spirited and when i bought the car it was 10l. Spirited driving at around 120 had me using less fuel than normal driving at 140-160 which on a 3 diesel is not the case.

[@Ban1l]

@@martinmarinov505 Had you replaced your vacuum pump because it can affect your fuel efficiency wery well!

[@azizdrives]

Next week bro

[@amnesicss]

11:11 do a G wagon fuel eco test next

[@irelax8595]

Was very close to purchase this vehicle, but the comp version though. However, they got waaaaaaaaaay to pricy here in Holland. Nonetheless, great freaking looking car. Such a sexy beast.

[@amnesicss]

I just love how he says phenomenal 😅😅

[@Levente20]

this car with a 200 hjs downpipe + exhaust literally sounds like a mini lambo.

[@franpabon7884]

Should have a Gpower preparation stock

[@Kytes93]

Thiß M2 is freaking awesome, man the new M2 design looks like a car that came from a lego. AND somehow it's heavier than a M4

[@ZR1GTV8AlQattan]

Best version

[@b00STR]

What the hell, i never noticed the OG M2 n55 doesn’t have M buttons/driver modes

[@azizdrives]

@@b00STR yes!! It doesn’t it missed a lot of those options

[@b00STR]

@@azizdrivesand the comp did get it right?

[@ПетрБалябин-и9н]

@@b00STRYes it is

[@WiimanX2]

Aziz light!

[@marcosmarquez2926]

As an f82 owner going into a the og m2 felt pretty bland and not raw the motor felt way to numb on acceleration and pretty floaty when turning

[@azizdrives]

Thank you finally someone gets me

[@marcosmarquez2926]

@@azizdrives yup out of the box not the best but with some coilovers a tune a trans tune and diff bushing it’ll wake it up a lot that’s for sure just out of the box was disappointing for someone who daily drives a f82. Someone who’s never have driven something in that caliber probably would enjoy it alot more

[@antonrabkin4086]

Have driven countless F80s and F82s and you are correct that at 100% the M3 or M4 will be more exciting. But how often is it that you drive at 100%? Everything below that, the M2 simply does far better. Way more nimble and snappier, engine is more linear, sounds better… As someone who wants to have the best experience driving at 0-99% and not just at 100% I had to get an M2 and I have never regretted it, even haven driven some F82s since then

[@mertaliylmaz975]

Sir can you test the Audi rs6 c6 please

[@yamchatroller]

Salam aziz can you do a rs6 v10 please

[@origaminefretami3480]

That would be interesting

[@spartacus2954]

Aint no f.... way bro put low octane 95 fuel in an M car.. 😞 And it brings the fuel consumption up.

[@hugomota3696]

All BMW engines are tuned for 95 and the manual even says that is not gain of performance or economy by using a higher octane ratio.

[@spartacus2954]

@hugomota3696 Brother, just because it runs with 95 doesn't mean it should. I have an e46 330i and even this old and robust engine is supposed to run on 98. It's even written on the tank cap, just in case someone wants to save a couple of cents while driving a premium car brand.

[@hugomota3696]

@@spartacus2954 Bro, do you know the octane ratio as to do with the ignition timing due to cylinder comprehension. Has nothing to do with power or economy. Older engines may required higher octane ratios because they do higher comprehensions during ignition. If BMW says it is 95, then it should have 95 only. If you put 98 on an engine tuned for 95, you may have problems because the engine would not detone the fuel at the right moment, if detoned it at all. The opposite, if you put 95 on an engine tuned for 98, the fuel may explode too soon. Both fuels have same power, more octane just gives you more resistance to detonation. We have different fuels for different engine compressions, not exactly "powers". Then it depends on the manufacteur to choose. My SEAT can run on both as the manual says, but my BMW should only take 95 has the manual demands and explains 98 does not give any advantage.

[@spartacus2954]

@@hugomota3696 I know. There are enough actual tests on 4 different types of fuel, also on BMW. Couple of German channels did a very good comparisons with actual runs. It makes a difference exactly on modern turbo engines since the ecu adjust the ignition times and they benefit even more than an old non turbo motor. They run smoother, also with more power, therefore more efficient, although the fuel saving is not enormous, the benefits are proven.

[@JJ-sr1wd]

Why do you fill the car with 95oct and not 98oct ?

[@azizdrives]

@@JJ-sr1wd there was already 95 in i wanted to have the same scenario

[@mihaelkrznar2859]

Where're you from?

[@Smartrior]

When TF BMW were bad with interiors? give me 1 example?

[@WIENZAA]

This M2 have no nice interior, and many others like the first 1 series

[@Smartrior]

@WIENZAA What has? WAG group? ahahahaha

[@WIENZAA]

@@Smartrior most Audis have better interior quality than bmw and thats a fact, only a fanboy can not see this

[@karolmaciejewski340]

For me the biggest drawback in the F87 as a daily driver was stock suspension, very bouncy and jarring really annoying on a bad roads in that department G87 is way way better. Also n55 top end is disappointing u can feel there thats it's not an M engine. Besides that its a very engaging, agresive and fun to drive one of the best cars ever to slide imo and also its one of the best lookings car bmw ever made OG n55 in specific

[@superanretanek]

235, 240 has b58 bro

[@azizdrives]

@@superanretanek i know bro, i forgot in the beginning

[@DaleSteel]

Style wise BMW interiors have got better BUT quality got much worse

[@rwolf2811]

Scho so sege au, E82 Coupé und de F87 zwar schöni Coupés aber zu Feminin

[@CrveniE46]

Jesi ti sa balkana ili?

[@azizdrives]

Da

[@CrveniE46]

@ too kralju, odakle tocno ako nije tajna, mislim da ako snimis koji tik tok na nasem da ce viral bit

[@panika6995]

Bro where are your reviews of the cars man as before i miss them this fuel test is boring as hell, ofcourse these cars wastes gasoline it is sportcars no need for fuel test if people will drive cheap buy a nissan micra

[@azizdrives]

Coming, i planned some exciting cars

[@bm_wuratli6883]

to me i would go entry real M is b58

[@Tranqilla]

You are so wrong about this BMW M2 OG, you have an dislike from me, how can you say this about n55 with this combination of gear box? This BMW it using parts from an BMW M4 AND BMW M3 E92, it lighter and if you tune it to stage 1 it beating M2 competition you can see stats on Autotopnl.

[@azizdrives]

@@Tranqilla thats exactly what i was saying you have to tune it to make it 100 Percent M and enjoyable. It uses parts from the m4 yes but its a less stable version on the suspension, its not the high reving s55 engine and every single car i know has a KW Suspension on it. You proved my point.

[@Dokepredator]

Sorry but you have no clue, so much false Informations.

[@azizdrives]

What for example? i said it has been tuned by the M Devision which is true, i said it doesn’t have the same suspension as the m3/m4 or even the m2 competition which is true. It has the same engine code n55 like the m235i which is also true. Only thing i said is OPF which i mistook because of the m2 competition

[@v12-s65]

F87 comp > G87 But I agree the interior is pretty whack with all the hard materials. At least the exterior is pretty

[@karolmaciejewski340]

I don't know, while F87 is maybe bit more exciting and better looking then G87 as a whole package is more mature and better. Faster, more grip, way better suspension, way better interior, better more reliable engine.

[@v12-s65]

@ f87 comp is just more raw and fun to drive for me. Less weight and smaller. The S55 is a very good engine too, I just can‘t get comfortable with the G looks..

[@satoshiblack1046]

This is the car for male hairdressers who want to feel masculine, but really, they like other guys.

[@SFX_Elise]

Hello Aziz, I would like to contact you for a testdrive or fuel test of my car but i don’t know how to talk with you. You have too much followers on Instagram so my message got lost :(

[@azizdrives]

What car do you have in mind my friend my apologies for not being able to respond sooner

[@SFX_Elise]

@@azizdrivesI have a Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06. US Supercar with SP100 i got 850km range with a 6-8l/100km on autobahn. It’s very impressive and it shocks people who know nothing about it..