Prince that Was Promised Prophecy Examined/ASOIAF Theory Explained

[@TheDisputedLands]

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[@justineharper3346]

Man, the fact that Aemon never got to meet Daenerys absolutely breaks my heart

[@jasonmendoza2044]

I know this is a late response, but I listen to the audio books pretty much every night for years now. And am just at the part where he dies and is talking about how he must help her….it hits me so hard every time, I love his character in the books and show so dang much, and long for how their meeting would have went 😢

[@britt581]

​@@jasonmendoza2044 Roy has put me to sleep many a night

[@Anubiszz512zz]

Sad that Aemon never knew who Jon was. But maybe he knew on a subconscious level with his wisdom and all, which is why he did seem to revere him

[@justineharper3346]

@@Anubiszz512zz I think he did know on a subconscious level. I wish he could have been there when Jon inevitably finds out

[@FunkBastid]

Aemon warged into an egg

[@GrayArea]

The TALENT🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you go girrrrrl

[@TheDisputedLands]

Gray!!!! Thank you!🤗

[@darthcarrots2581]

Jaime has dreams where he wields a flaming sword and fights the undead. And he is a lion. If Jon is the human head, Dany the wings, Jaime could be the lion part of the sphinx.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

I like to point out that people dismiss Stannis but he is actually putting in accion everything Jon is given credit for... Who let the wildlings cross the wall?, the union of freefolk and the north is made by Stannis, as flaw as he is, Also he is uniting the North & the Iron Islands

[@sleekoduck]

I think his daughter is part of the prophecy, and things will go wrong when Melissandre tries to burn her.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

@D D who says he is?

[@sleekoduck]

If you go back to Dying of the Light, there is a description of the Prince who was Promised. It's pretty early in the book, too. The sigils mentioned point at House Baratheon. FWIW, I don't think it's the same as Azor Ahai.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

@@sleekoduck uh intresting, I have to look for this, thanks sleek =)

[@bensloan3109]

The way I've always interpreted the prophecy in the story is that Dany IS Azor Ahai (literally no other character fits the criteria like she does and its stated multiple times) but yes, there will be three dragon riders absolutely because there has to be. But regardless, these dragons are in question Danys children, whom she birthed (woke) from stone herself. Perhaps Drogo/Rhaego were her Nissa Nissa sacrifice needed to give birth to HER Lightbringer(s) - weapons used to fight the darkness - dragons. This is obviously giving Dany more importance than Jon (who is absolutely the 2nd head of the dragon) but like I said shes the one who fits the criteria best

[@raulmora442]

I round that statement very curious, because Daenerys finally accepts her Targaryen side while riding drogo burning dothraki in the valley, she will not going to be a Hero or villain and more or less an antagonist

[@anonmouse6337]

I think lightbringer is yet to be revealed, and it will be drawn in one of the 3 fires Dany must light. Mel's version of the prophecy says it happens when stars bleed and "the cold breath of darkness falls heavy" which on my mind means during the long night and a meteor shower.

[@melmelb6146]

Lol Jon is dead, whatever he was supposed to be, he is definitely not going to be anymore

[@callumdunphy4846]

Yes! So glad you’re back at making videos. Single best theorizer of ASOIAF out there.

[@keelobrown4991]

Definitely!

[@mrmarmellow555]

I kow now we Again listen too such an Beautiful Voice and reading style...AlsoGreatdepthThoughfull Museingz ME LADY!

[@bmabhilash01]

Add LML to the list as well

[@made-line7627]

@@bmabhilash01 And Greenhand, Gray Area and In Deep Geek (and Secrets of the Citadel is *very* worthy), and you basically have the only ones you need 😘

[@Solfree]

Absolutely the best!!

[@jenniferikelman5516]

Thoughts while watching the video: The Dothraki have a prophecy of the Stallion that mounts the world. Also the sphinx has the head of a woman, the wings of a bird and the body a the lion. Maybe Daenerys the woman, John the Crow and Tyrion the lion?

[@faemewmi]

i do like the idea of tyrion being the lion, but he has no valyrian blood, which would serve for the "dragon" parts of the prophecy.

[@ghostgate82]

@@faemewmi Tyrian’s father might not be Tywin though…

[@faemewmi]

@@ghostgate82 yes i was just speaking as far as we know

[@soxpeewee]

​@@faemewmiLan the clever who founded the Lannisters could be Valyarian

[@cruddddddddddddddd]

Aemon’s last few chapters are heartbreaking. One of my favorite characters in the series.

[@jasonmendoza2044]

🌊

[@bundibird3213]

I like the theory that the prophesy says dragon = the dragon has 3 heads = therefore the prophesied saviour is actually three individuals. That's a great theory

[@WassupMrNoob]

Azhor Ahai wields lightbringer. Lightbringer is the term to describe the Planet Venus which is called Morningstar. Sometimes, morningstar is also called the evenstar, because Venus appears right before dusk instead of dawn. Its not farfetched to think that Azor Ahai is the guy that ushers in the long night and is also the one the heralds the coming of dawn. She/He is both the villain and the hero.

[@RED-my9hl]

Kinda reminds me of leto atreides II

[@animelover-nicole231]

The Sphinx was the riddle not the riddler, conformed alleras is sarella

[@sleekoduck]

And she/he has blood of the dragon!

[@branphillips9546]

But Alleras is neither talkative or annoying, unlike Sarella. More likely Alleras is Oberyn's only son, twin and opposite of Sarella. Doran's hidden dagger. No way a girl shares dorms and locker rooms with boys.

[@matorchiana]

For me the third head is Faegon, he is a blackfyre, not targaryen ... but he is from the blood of the dragon. Then there are Jon, Dany and Faegon. Jon is the reborn, Dany is the one who awakens the dragons and Faegon is the one who brings the Blackfyre sword. It is a theory that seems good to me.

[@made-line7627]

Never heard the reasoning for this theory. I really like it 👌🏻

[@Luminousreign]

Fun fact: “The Sphinx is the riddle” is also a Greek phrase.

[@Luminousreign]

The Greeks were talking about it’s opaqueness as a symbol. It became such a joke that it was a common Athenian phrase at one point.

[@LaBoricua2591]

I've always wondered why there was this insistence on "the dragon has three heads" because to me it seemed like House Targaryen was superimposing their own family history onto this prophecy, especially since we haven't actually heard the text of TPTWP prophecy like we have the Azor Ahai prophecy. Maybe everyone has been assuming that the three headed dragon House Targaryen's banner is referring to Aegon, Visenya, and Rhaenys but what is it is actually referring to this prophecy? What if Aegon had some reason to believe that this prophecy would be fulfilled in Westeros and that is why he invaded?

[@Chagggggggs]

And now that’s proven in house of the dragon

[@kayzerirome5688]

What about this: Daenerys=Fire's fighter, mother of dragons Jon=promised prince, the one who has the song asoiaf Bran=the last hero, the one who finds the the childeren

[@TheDisputedLands]

So this is how the fandom has often rationalized it, they have known all along the answer has to be several players. And the logic is there what we have to do is identify who the original three heads of the dragon were during the original long night, and chances are one of them was Nissa Nissa. This would explain YiTish legends of a woman ending the long night (even though they have an Azor Ahai hero called Yin Tar) and even in the original lightbringer forging she was also essential in ending the Long Night as it was her strength and soul and courage that was required to forge the blade. This is why Dany is given both Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa symbolism and why Dany got the pointy end in the show like Nissa Nissa (even though she fulfilled the Azor Ahai prophesy and hatched dragons from stone beneath a bleeding star). Because Nissa Nissa was also one of the three heads. What we have to do is sort through the monomyths and identify the three heads from the Original Long Night (and the Last Hero definitely figures into this as part of a larger collection of long night legends and ancient heroes). The answer will then present itself as to the identity of the three heads in the present timeline.

[@sleekoduck]

The third head is Arya, but she won't be riding any dragons. She tried to use her Needle in the Riverlands (water) and nothing happened. In the Mercy chapter, she has stabbed Raff the Sweetling, a Lannister soldier, and nothing much comes of it. Who does she love most in the world? A fire wight, who might just end up as a thrall of the Great Other. Bran's arc is heading in a different direction.

[@jennyli5360]

I agree with you. My theory: Bran is the 3rd head of the dragon, but he will not ride Viserion. Instead, he will warg into Viserion, thus "becoming the dragon". In book 1, Bran dreamed of the 3 eyed raven, who told him that he can fly instead of walking, so I think the books are strongly hinting that Bran is the 3rd dragon head. This way, the 3 heads of the dragon will be equally balanced with components of fire and ice: Dany is all fire, Bran is all ice, and Jon is both. Just my theory :)

[@sleekoduck]

@@jennyli5360 Viserion is Aegon Blackfyre's dragon. Rhaegal might be Jon's, but I think it's more likely to end up with Cersei so we get Dance of the Dragons 2.0. Jon does not have dragon dreams. Viserion and Rhaegal will either kill each other or burn when Kings Landing blows up from wildfire.

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

@@sleekoduck There's absolutely no way it's Cersei lmao

[@ismata3274]

Daenerys is the wings, tyrion is the body of a lion, john is the head of a man.

[@chrissyofoldstones3210]

İsm Ata I love this!

[@armyofninjas9055]

THIS. I think you nailed it.

[@sleekoduck]

Close.

[@jenniferikelman5516]

I thought Jon might be the wings because he is a crow/night's watch and Daenerys might be the woman head. But I agree with Tyrion as the lion.

[@sarat.1744]

So....are we dismissing young Griff then? Because I'm all for it! (he's always been Blackfyre in my head) Daenerys, Tyrion, and Jon were always the three-headed dragon to me...but then season 8 destroyed all good theories.

[@CommieBukkakie]

I think that maybe there can be more than just one “Azor Ahai reborn” person. Kind of like how there are multiple versions of the Azor Ahai myth, there can be multiple incarnations of Azor Ahai reborn. Instead of there being one single savior who does everything themselves, maybe Jon and Dany are both Azor Ahai reborn, and each play a huge part in ending the Long Night, neither of which would’ve been possible without the other, if that makes sense (but who knows, maybe it’s Patchface lol). Anyway, really love the video, amazing job!!!

[@vstar3332]

EXACTLY I do believe that

[@Kick0a0cat]

Would make sense in the context of the books, too - you can't win a battle alone

[@keelobrown4991]

Asshai was likely a part of the great empire of the dawn who were most likely the predecessors to Valyria. So in that case the prince that was promised and azor ahai could just be different names for the same person. Ps i wouldnt take anything in that stupid show seriously.

[@dreamway9]

I think if Melisandre saw Stannis at all in her flames before taking up his cause, it may have not been him AS azor ahai, but as a key figure to finding that person (or persons) who is (are). Future telling of most kinds is really more like a scavenger hunt than a road.

[@Vmac1394]

In other words, as John the Baptist was a precursor to Jesus, Stannis is a fantasy precursor to Westeros' savior.

[@branphillips9546]

I think Jon is the trueborn son of Ned and Ashara, the irony of Catelyn hating the "bastard" is too rich. Don't forget, Ned Dayne wants to meet Jon badly.

[@drizlam5827]

Jon is a dragon, a wolf and a crow.

[@s4m1r_65]

As far as the book is concerned, he doesn't have much of a dragon in him. He is more part of the old gods. His wolf dreams, and etc

[@eric2500]

He is three in one - never thought of that before!

[@PinkyJustice]

​@@s4m1r_65haha what? He's literally half dragon, half wolf, all crow, and dead AF

[@holeeshi9959]

the "misinterpretation of prophecy" is a recurring theme in the books.....so it is very possible that the prophecy is referring to multiple people, "Azor Ahai" and "the prince that was promised" might not even be the same person, also note the fact a dragon has three head, so I say we'll get three people each contributing to a piece of the puzzle in defeating night king, example: Dany's dragon forged the flaming sword, Jon uses it to stab the night king, then Arya/Aegon/Tyrion/Stannis would be a third head, and do something to "remake the world".

[@VoiceofGeekdom]

Nice work, Amanda! If you'll forgive the plug... coincidentally, I am actually working on a video about Azor Ahai's possible connections to the works of Tolkien right now. It's great to be able to learn from you!

[@TheDisputedLands]

Hey thanks for watching! I'll check it out for sure!

[@VoiceofGeekdom]

@@TheDisputedLands There will be a shoutout for this video in there :)

[@BeadleJuce]

I enjoyed the video but if i could have one small gripe: the “o” isn’t pronounced in “oedipus”.

[@Mogodu_Rachoshi]

So child of three is quite amazing like is it Child of her parents and the storm. Child of her parents and flame. Or Child of her parents and herself (when she is reborn in the pyre). Or maybe of all three Child of Man(or dragon) , of storm and of flame (and herself).

[@TheDisputedLands]

Or is she one of three children, one of three AA.

[@Mogodu_Rachoshi]

@@TheDisputedLands I did think about that but because I am bad at symbols I kinda am always like or a child of three, then there maybe 3 people (or children) of Targerian (3 dragon riders) still alive in the world and for me the kinda feels like the other two are inserting themselves (whomever they are) into the prophesy. Although I feel like that is just me.

[@arcanics1971]

Tis a slippery bugger is prophecy It's ever vague and never clear And every aspect of all you see Whispers proof into your ear And every time you think it's time You discover yet it's not begun And when you are waiting for its start The prophecy reveals it's done Never trust it 'cause it's written To blindly follow is but farce For he who's led by prophecy End up with teeth marks on his arse.

[@arcanics1971]

Also Oedipus is pronounced Eddipus, in American English and Eedipus in British English. The O is always silent.

[@TheDisputedLands]

Thanks for commenting! I appreciate the correction.

[@nosferatuzod4991]

Human face Danny, body of a Lion Tyren, and the wings of a Hawk Young Grif.

[@Sienisota]

I think both prophecies are red herrings: They might come true in some insignificant way. But the books have hinted that prophecies are more like curses to lead people astray, especially when they prophesy about seemingly good things.

[@AL-fl4jk]

I think Jon and Daenerys will meet, become allies, get busy, then have a break like in the show because of his true identity when he takes his true name. But I think Dany will be pregnant - and since they aren’t married and will be born in the North - will be named Snow - and be Azor Ahai

[@tylerbarrett6652]

So we have Jon and Dany..... and tho most refer to him as Faegon, we have Aegon, whom I think is the genuine article.... So with some creative baby swapping going on, we have confusion. Aegon with Connington is now back at Storm's end... Dany with Mormont and Selmy is still in Maureen... and Jon is at the wall... about to be resurrected. Talk about weaving a web of tales.... So the Viserys who died with the golden crown had been swapped out somehow? and then we still have the Dayne's sword of the morning who needs to make an appearance.... and we can't forget Howland Reed either. This is so complex.

[@someguy7093]

the whole "who will win the game of thrones" tv crap is so fucking annoying. it couldnt be clearer that by the last 2 books it doesnt matter what idiot wins a seat in the chair of knives. god damn that pisses me off "bran won the game of thrones" yeah bullshit that isnt even the game bran is playing. i wish they never made that stupid tv show

[@bensonfang1868]

I think both Jon and Dany combine Azor Ahai as both their mothers died giving birth to them (metaphorical for the “plunging sword into woman’s heart”). They were both Targaryens who did great things and grew up alone.

[@personofnoimportance5590]

And tyrion!

[@everestrada9141]

I hate to say this but if the mother dies/Nissa Nissa parallel is spot on, Tyrion actually could be a good candidate

[@tadeuvi]

I believe this 100%. Deny woke the dragons, it’s over. If Jon is azor ahai, it is both Jon and deny together. On the Tv Melisandre says “I have brought fire and ice together” I agree with this theory

[@s4m1r_65]

Everything keeps pointing towards Daenerys. Born and reborn amids salt and smoke. And she literally woke dragons fron stone. She is special. Now let's see if in the books that's a good thing

[@AndrewK23777]

Always great to get a vid from you Amanda and this was excellent as usual. Definitely agree there will not be one savior / messianic figure in this narrative and I have long suspected there will be a hindsight discussion after the conclusion of ASoIaF of multiple characters who embodied these prophesized roles in one way or the other. With GRRM I never thought it would be a simplistic this character fulfilled this particular hero role , in some ways Jon and Dany both embody both sides of the AA prophecy and I could see one or both not only being the savior figures but I would not put it past either to sacrifice themselves for the greater good if need be in the more Nissa Nissa aspect. Interesting take to suggest the three heads of the dragons could mean there could be three Azor Ahai / PtwP figures. Granted I agree it will not be a simplistic this character is this hero / figure but personally Dany to me embodies Azor Ahai more than anyone in terms of the actual prophecy itself - literally woke dragons from stone under a bleeding star (the red comet) and she was born amidst salt and smoke at the volcanic island of Dragonstone which embodies both (salt and smoke) and in some ways could also work with her sort of rebirth at Drogo's pyre. The PtwP from the GoHH's perspective assuming that is a separate hero figure (which we do not know fur sure yet) to me seems to be more about Jon , who with me being a R+L believer JS is of Aerys and Rhaella's line and the embodiment / manifestation of ice and fire who will likely have an important part to play against the Others. If they are separate I would say Dany lines up more with AA and Jon more with the PtwP. But I do expect it to be somewhat more blurry regardless with multiple characters being considered either fully or partially occupying these heroic role / figures even beyond Jon and Dany , even in a lesser extent those like Stannis , possibly Jaime , maybe even Tyrion and / or others could be considered at least partially fulfilling such roles. Look forward to your future vids about this and any other concept.

[@eric2500]

The riddle over Alleras is that he is really Sarella, a highborn bastard of the Summer Isle and Dornish parentage. She is getting a magical education as well as a maester's education while tracking developments in Oldtown. According to Doran Prince of Dorne she is playing a "game" of some kind.

[@noahh2338]

Considering the lore in House of the Dragon, this video and theory aged like a fine dornish wine..love the videos!

[@eric2500]

One prince/princess, one hero, one willing sacrifice, THREE PEOPLE.

[@ChildOf3]

Wait so could Dany herself be the three head of the dragons? She has so many 3 symbolism, she has three dragons. And she might fulfill three prophesies. Azor ahai, prince that was promised, and stallion who mounts the world?? She is a little bit of this... a little bit of that. She is called mother of dragons, daughter of death, bride of fire, slayer of lies, etc etc. Especially with GRRM saying dany is "someone who makes the magic up as she goes along. She really might be someone who does anything" Idk I've never thought of dany ALONE being the three heads of the dragons. But the fact they were discussing Dany and the multiple tales they were hearing of her. Then they said "ALL about dragons and a beautiful young queen (Dany)" Then they brought up the three heads of the dragons outta nowhere? While talking about hearing of dany freeing slaves, being with the dothraki, etc etc. All about dany being and doing multiple things at the same time.

[@vayar8908]

Woohoo! Amazing video. Thank you so much;)

[@smdcuolive6700]

The Disputed Lands video and a Jelles Marble Runs video on the same day. Today is a good day

[@rheeventures8144]

Ok let me try again.. Brain swirlies😆 what if when red star bleeds is when a person dies like red star is a person like a Martell or a Karstark. Darkness gathers is about Night Watch gathering for ranging or say n Shield Hall for example or to chose LC. N we all know Who will be reborn after his stabbing so hmm we know who is gonna be Azor Ahai. Smoke n Salt could have to do with how Mel resurrect him maybe. Or where n Castle Black thinking about them ice cells. All that salted n smoked provisions down there n the tunnels. Waking dragons out of stones Should make me think of Daeny eggs. It Really makes me think of Dragonstone though. I still think it's 'Alive' n waiting to be woken. Hellhounds n wyverns n all. Smoke n Salt there too js. N if bleeding star Is a Martell also would be Targaryen blood aka King's blood. Still Royal even if not The King. Same blood n their veins. I would think more cuz Rhoynish bloodlines also among others. Maybe Oberyn death is the bleeding star? Idk Darkness gathers to elect Jon after as LC. Ahhh so frustrating.. Bloodraven did it😆😆🤷🖤

[@DesiderataTruth]

I had never heard "O-edipus", and then I had to hear it thirty times.

[@brennanbarnes7628]

Excited to hear your take, thanks for the videos and please keep them coming!

[@lah-jk5ch]

I genuinely let out a "SQUEE," when I saw this video! Fantastic analysis, & mind-blowing literary evidence, as always!! Can't wait to see how you explain the next theory!

[@alexstewart9747]

I really enjoy the theory vids but George will never finish this with just 2 more books. Sorry..........

[@chrissyofoldstones3210]

Excellent, Amanda 😃 you always have fantastic theories!

[@TheDisputedLands]

Thank you Chrissy! 😄

[@chrissyofoldstones3210]

V Money her name is Amanda, her channel name is The Disputed Lands lol

[@chrissyofoldstones3210]

V Money 🤣

[@blackknightr892]

I wonder if the 3 heads are the 3 parts of the sphinx: Human ( Bran representing humans, if the show is any hint), Lion (a Lannister) and Hawk ( an Arryn). Don't take it too serious, just having fun. Sorry in advance for butchered english.

[@TheDisputedLands]

Hey thanks for watching! BTW, your English is better than you think, I wouldn't have guessed at all.

[@elizabethjansen2684]

Your English is just fine

[@anthonywarren9885]

There are no sphinxes in the show so what would that have to do with anything?

[@vanessaamesty6739]

The human face = Jon/Dany ¿? The body of a lion = Tyrion The wings of a hawk = Bran / Stannis? Stannis has proudwing, Bran is the winged wolf Who knows maybe I'm reaching

[@TheDisputedLands]

Tryion could represnt the body of a lion, but im seeing the three heads from the context of the original long night instead of in the context of the sphinx components although that may be playing a factor as well. If AA has three heads in the present timeline, AA probably had three heads in the original long night meaning nissa nissa was one of the three heads which is why dany got the sword through her heart even though she fulfilled the azor ahai prophesy, and gets all the NN and AA symbolism in the books. NN was one of the three heads of AA which is why we get tales of a woman ending the long night in YiTi even though there is an AA hero called Yin Tar from the same region. NN's soul and strength and courage was needed to forge lightbringer so she was an essential part in ending the long night. This is how dany can essentially be both AA and NN, because the dragon has three heads.

[@vanessaamesty6739]

@@TheDisputedLands I sometimes believe Jon is a red herring, but winds will let us know

[@cruddddddddddddddd]

The Disputed Lands This is how I see it as well. You don’t get Lightbringer without Nissa Nissa-she is an important piece of the prophecy. But is Jon Nissa, or is Dany? Will she quench a sword in his cold, resurrected heart? Or will his heart burn hotter after Mel resurrects him with fire? It could be that the legend was mingled over the years, whittled down to give all credit to a single figure: Azor. While in reality Azor was a group effort, so to speak. That argument makes good sense. I kind of think ‘the one’ prophecies are completely overdone, so I hope it’s a group effort. I will say, Bran being the third head makes some good sense. He will never walk, but he will fly. Perhaps warging into one of the dragons? He also has a more overtly magical/mythical storyline, in the same vein as Dany. Oh, when will the Winds of Winter arrive? Hopefully before the world ends. Forecasts are looking grim. Other fantasy series kind of pale in comparison for me. I’ve tried Kingkiller, First Law, and a few Sanderson offerings. The closest for me is the Farseer books by Robin Hobb. But it’s still second best. Not ASOIAF.

[@FLUFFERKINZ]

I think it’s interesting that the idea of the sphinx comes up. The house of Balaerys’ coat of arms is a sphinx and they were dragon lords from Valyria like the Targaryens. For me, I think the indication of the sphinx being the riddle means it’s possible other dragon riders still exist, and with Arellas’ mother being from the Summer Isles it’s possible a member of house Balaerys, possibly a bastard, survived the Doom and carried on the blood, and Arellas might be descended from the long dead house. The Summer Isles are quite close in proximity to Valyria after all. It could also be a reference to the way dragons were created, being born of blood magic and unholy mashups of humans with beasts as well.

[@johnst.baptiste3664]

This is going to get me in trouble, but I personally believe that Azor Ahai is a red herring. The real Shaggydog. Great video, though.

[@tessaricha]

You are the one GRRM was referring to who has figured it out.

[@danielmclaughlin5546]

LOL You people treat ancient myths as gospel. My guess is Azor Ahai is a legend about some hero who may have existed or could be simply a fairy tale. Just because a myth says the hero will return does not mean he or she will.

[@rheeventures8144]

I kinda really hope it's Quentin myself tbh ... From frog to dragon.. For Dorne🌞🐍🤘

[@araisikewai]

Quentin hoped it's Quentin. Sadly the frog can't jump that high. Unless Aerion Brightflame's vision are true and we got Jesus Quentin.

[@sophiawilson8696]

Quentyn Martell

[@bryanfish7303]

The quote about a comet being seen on the night Aegon was born was interesting. It could be said the red conet also heralded Grif's revealing, and his return to Westeros

[@blueveil5270]

Welcome back! (:

[@1handedtyper]

I'm telling you, the prophecy is a bunch of balogna. If you read GRRM's other works, whenever there's prophecy, it's always trickery. Reagar first believed that he was the prince who was promised, and then believed his son was. If Aegon hadn't been murdered, do you know what would have happened? After nothing happened, he would have gone on to believe that his own son was the prince who was promised. Then his son will believe that his son the the prophesied hero. BTW, refering to real life now, Jesus is coming back, any day now.

[@thatboi5415]

I agree. Martin goes on about stories having the hero that went on a journey with his companions and some of them die but he eventually saves the world and this story was not about that. When people talk about the prince that was promise etc I remember Marwin the Maige's quote about prophecies, when he said it to Sam. "Prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams. That is the nature of prophecy, said Gorghan. Prophecy will bite your prick off every time". IMO this is Martin telling people that the prophecies are bullshit. He is telling how people get excited figuring out what they mean. People gloss over this quote and go to revel in trying to explain prophecies. There are alot of sinister people or entities in this series who can and have been influencing people's dreams and visions. From Quaith, the house of the undying, the children of the forest/slash bloodraven and whatever that crow Bran sees in his dreams, the same crow Euron saw when he was a child. It would be no hard task to know if these old prophecies then start giving people dreams to convince them they are. Its clearly what Melisandre is doing to Stannis. She is wrong, many Targaryens have been wrong. It bit their members off. Let's also not forget these Targaryens having these visions and prophecies started in the period of Bloodravens time as Hand of the king. None of these prophecies can be trusted.

[@bensloan3109]

The trickery has already been revealed though- Aemon wasted his life supporting Rhaegar as Azor Ahai and Rhaegar literally lived and died for the prophecy. I think that was punishment enough. The prophecy will be fulfilled properly this time via Dany

[@thatboi5415]

@@bensloan3109 like I said, read the quotes that Marwyn recites to Sam about prophecies. It will bite your prick off everytime.

[@bensloan3109]

@@thatboi5415 yes I know. It already happened to rhaegar is my point lol

[@elyseenger2646]

@@bensloan3109 No it's not going to be her. There is a reason why prophecies hurt people. It have to do with how prophecies guide people to make decisions that in hindsight is *really* stupid. The Greek mythologies nailed this well. Should I remind you of the story of Oedipus, whose father abandoned him in order to head off a prophecy he was given? or Cronus' decision to try to prevent his from coming true, which drove Rhea away from him? This led Zeus to do the same. Dany's paranoia is already beginning to showing. Especially as the "three betrayals" could be a curse that lead to her undoing. She has strong parallels with Cersei, and with good reasons. Both are powerful women with three children who was given a prophecy when she was younger that unravels in horrific ways.

[@DNotzz]

It’s Jon. He is literally a promised prince.,,”promise me Ned”...and Rhaegar was wrong,the bleeding star is NOT a comet, it’s a bloody sword. From House Dayne. The daynes...stars...star fall, Dawn...the show tried to hint at that but most ppl missed it. I think it’s pretty obvious. And his lineage and all that lines up perfectly. The prophecy just confuses people bc they take it too literally. It’s all metaphor. Not that it really matters, the story will play out and it’s not like it will ever be declared.

[@MagicSecretsandMysteries]

He’s not legitimate, the show fused Jon and Aegon. Jon is a good character but he is still a bastard. The promised is not a shrewd reference to lyanna words but rather the saviour promised by Aegon the conqueror (which is the entire reason he took the continent). Don’t be sounding so sure cause what you have is metaphors and word play (there more convincing evidence than hot-pie/patch face is the prince than those you mentioned😂

[@FlorianMark]

​@@MagicSecretsandMysteries I also wanted to write a answer but it is a 3 year old comment.

[@potatz5130]

That's definitely mindblowing! Like, when you can't choose between 2 things, choose both) My choise for the 3rd head would be either fAegon (though a Blsckfire, still a dragon) or Tyrion (if rumors are true and he is not Tywin's son)

[@patriautism]

The O in Oedipus is silent.. it is pronounced just "edipus" like the complex

[@thisguy8106]

Great video, as always!! Love traveling through the Disputed Lands.

[@luminyam6145]

I love your videos, I love the faint music in the background. Thank you.

[@jamiemckenna2254]

Yes! Amanda coming out swinging y’all! 🤯 That was awesome. Cheers! 🍻

[@LNGD_46]

Next video LIGHTBRINGER, please?

[@TheDisputedLands]

Lightbringer video is now up!

[@LNGD_46]

@@TheDisputedLands name of the video pls?

[@TheDisputedLands]

@@LNGD_46 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m57FenufhZuJmqs

[@LNGD_46]

@@TheDisputedLands 😍

[@TheCimmerian6]

Why no mention of young Griff( Aegon Targaryen) in A Dance of Dragons , seems he’d be pretty relevant in this conversation

[@TheDisputedLands]

We will be discussing young griff soon😊

[@lxfj2128]

@@TheDisputedLands when are we getting the video we have waited for 2 years

[@lxfj2128]

@@TheDisputedLands omg thank u so much . I’m about to bing ur whole video

[@yensid4294]

Azor Ahai, Prince Who Was Promised & The Last Hero

[@MrIcingdeath22]

This is great especially if we consider Blood Raven will be part of Bran. Would Blood Raven be the third head of the dragon?

[@lxfj2128]

Who’s the third head pls reply aegon? I certainly don’t think it’s tyrion or euron

[@alexv3357]

That prophecy at the start feels so exactly about Dany that I can't imagine who else it might be

[@ScrubbyBubbles]

I'm sure you've heard this, but man you have a nice voice, would love to hear you read the TWOW sample chapters.

[@maryabraham6347]

So Amanda who do you think is the third head?

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Tyrion?

[@Hernameispamela]

TYRION! To me everything you say is canon! Thanks for being back! We missed you!

[@lewdogsk8er]

I love this. Thank you for bringing up the Sphinx from Oedipus Rex, the importance of which I’ve had in my mind for quite a while. What do you think about the riddle, the older one about two women giving birth to one another in turn? Day and night, cyclically recurring events. I thought that had heavy n’ssa vibes, for sure. And I couldn’t help but notice the one name you didn’t name, so it could be my only guess as to who you will infer the third head of the dragon to be: Tyrion. A literal Sphinx as his appearance is a bit of this, a little of that... My questions, two cents, and praise to you. May the algorithm gods smile upon this video.

[@TheDisputedLands]

Hey thanks so much! Im glad you enjoyed it! You bring up a good point about the cycling of the seasons. Its a major theme in the series and i there is probably additional underlying significance there.

[@lewdogsk8er]

@@TheDisputedLands Also, and not to exaggerate the connections between Oedipus and ASOIAF but in the tale, Oedipus’ father, Laius, was cursed for breaking guest right when he raped his charge on the way to a tournament. There’s, like, at least 3 odd parallels to unpack; between the Frey’s and Robb, Lyanna and Rhaegar, and a prince promised to kill. Is this worth unpacking in your opinion, or are these common tropes in mythology and shouldn’t merit further examination of possible prophetic parallels? Thank you again for the amazing content.

[@paul5918]

We All Know Ser Pounce Is The True Azor Ahai !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheSkidude55]

Thanks for a great new video!

[@allyriastark3508]

PTWP prophecy makes lineage of Daena important for me, as I believe her son Daemon was son of Baelor the Blessed, and before GRRM built Blackfyre family for Twoiaf, the show named Daemon's wife Serena, whose name is smilar to Serenei, maybe at some point Daemon's Essosi bride was a descendant of Saera, there is also Serena Stark the pregnant woman from Bran's vision, she was rightful Lady of Winterfell once but was passed for her uncle, we don't know what happened to her children.

[@TheDisputedLands]

There are some really interesting things going on with the Sara, sera, serenei characters. Several connections to the free cities.

[@allyriastark3508]

As Stannis said, even Azor Ahai didn't win his wars alone, thinking only one is needed to save humanity, and one big bad to unite them is irrational, like the Savior/Antichrist belief of Jewish/Xtian/Sunni&Shia, these beliefs are wrong. And Azor Ahai IS NOT THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE! His SONG is the SONG of ICE and FIRE. Azor Ahai doesn't have to be Stark or Targaryen.

[@beatrizfernandes1506]

So what do you think it means "his is the song of ice and fire"? What is the song? A literal song telling his deeds? Can the word "song" mean a quest, or fight, or destiny (like The Odissey and The Illiad can be called songs, because they were stories written as poems, maybe passed down from generation to generation through song), meaning that what he will do/have to do is linked to ice and fire (that could be considered the extremes of the natural/magical power of planetos?). Thus, "his is the song of ice and fire" means that his destiny is related to the most ancient and primitive forces of the world, to the magical/spiritual fabric of the world.

[@sleekoduck]

The Prince who was Promised is the Dawn. The clouds are made from ice crystals and the rising sun is a ball of fire.

[@joshuavincent3515]

I believe that Victarion is going to take the place of Azora. This might be far off line but think about it. Both men were driven to the point of killing their wives. Victarion by his brother and Azora by the long night. My second reason in believing this is because of that chapter when Victarion is thinking on how to kill Euron. Azora had no reason to think that he could end the long night only if he new nights king or had a personal connection. And my last reason is victarion's burnt hand. It only makes sense if you are holding a flaming sword for your hand to be burnt and Victarion is the only one we have seen have a working burnt hand.

[@charlotteofhouseappleton4477]

Each of your videos is a treasure! I'm so happy you're creating new ones. Looking forward to your theory on the third head of the dragon.

[@jennyli5360]

My theory: Bran is the 3rd head of the dragon, but he will not ride Viserion. Instead, he will warg into Viserion, thus "becoming the dragon". In book 1, Bran saw the 3 eyed raven, who told him that he can fly instead of walking, so I think the books are strongly hinting that Bran is the 3rd dragon head. This way, the 3 heads of the dragon will be equally balanced with components of fire and ice: Dany is all fire, Bran is all ice, and Jon is both. Just my theory :)

[@branphillips9546]

"Crows are all liars." -Old Nan

[@brandonlambert9768]

I hope George gives this saga an ending it deserves and ignores the ending of Game of Thrones altogether.

[@tulkas42o22]

This is what I get for oversleeping. It makes me so happy to see a video from you😁 Much respected never neglected. Its not the quantity of videos you drop but the quality that you give us mere mortals that excitement. You are a treasure among us. Thank you!! Crowfoods daughter....you are our Mhysa.....Man that cute kid at the end never gets old😇. I know its not a popular theory but this is why I believe Egg went to the other side of the coin and led to Dunk killing.him. Dunk was a true knight ala his last acts in each of the dunk and egg series'. Dunks acts are always noble. King slayer! What does that say about Jaime. Knights who question their knighthood!?....hmmm. It wasn't til Mel came along that we see Aemon come clean about what he knows the monologue with Jon aside though they are both relevant. What does this have to do with AH. Exactly tnree candidates none which are certain. Well done Crowfoods daughter(Amanda)😍 soo happy to see new vids from you. I think there will be a surprise character, one that we know already that's going to flip this story in its head. Crowfoods daughter!!!!🙆

[@SakiBlablabla]

They are probably all Azor Ahai, or at least I don’t think we ever get a concrete answer of who it is !

[@mattfoulgerBC]

Great video. I've always been fascinated by the two Sphinx/riddle references in Feast, and what the author might be suggesting. This is the best discussion of that topic I've heard yet.

[@kelestra1]

Who is the third dragon? Do you think it's Tyrion?

[@claudiarice9008]

I've heard the name pronounced Eedipus and Edipus, but definitely not Oh-edipus.

[@ShadeoftheEvening]

😂

[@joelaverack]

Yes, yes. How it's pronounced shouldn't matter. The pronunciation has likely shifted over time and in different cultures. But oh-edipus was the one jarring thing in a great video.

[@edwardhunga4488]

The dragon has three heads may refer to creatures with human, wyvern, and fireworm DNA.

[@Ilargizuri]

Great Video, thank you for your Work. If Alleras is the Sphinx a Person with two inheritances, why does the Sphinx have 3 Symbols? Metaphors and Tropes also play a role in this Story. And in the Metaphoric Language, a Falcon is a bird of Light, Bravery and Wisdom. Besides many other Religions in our history we have also Mythology in this Story, Ancient Egyptian Mythology and Norse Mythology most of all. The Ancient Egyptian Mythology has Flacons as Gods, Lions and Humans. Horus is the sun god who has the Head of a Falcon or is a Falcon himself, Ruti (the so-called "Double Lion") is a minor Deiti in the Judgement of the Dead and Sachmet and Bastet one is the Goddess of fertility and the other is the Goddess of War, both have the Head of either a Cat or a female Lion and lastly the Head of a Human, if I start with that List I will sit here forever. So why should the Sphinx be the Riddle and Alleras be the one who hints at our Answer? I think the Sphinx and her Parts are the Hint because in Egyptian Mythology the Sphinx is just like the Sphinx in Greek Mythology (Oedipus is a Drama from Ancient Greek) they are Guardians, one Guard the Tomb of the Pharao and the other Guards a City. What does the Sphinx guard in our Story? So far nothing. The Sphinx is the Riddle and the Hint, but not Alleras gives us the Hint, the hint is in the Story itself. The Leading Falcon who feeds the Humans (without the sun nothing Grows and People starve to death) the Lion of Death (even in the Story we have the Lion of the Night and in our World, we have Ruti who judges Souls, Sachmet [Death on Battlefield] and Bastet [death during Childbirth]) and the Head of Wisdom (the Norse God of wisdom is literally just a Head, Mimir)

[@jonathanmullins7043]

Comment and like for the Lady peasants!

[@marcmarc4776]

I thought the point was for the readers to figure out that prophecies are BS? They only come true if you believe in them, like Cersei's prophecies.

[@joncrane7661]

Maybe you thought wrong! I did too. This is entertaining though. Hope we find out!

[@havvagokce1441]

I personally am team ser pounce the sharp paw.

[@TheInvisibleShadow95]

Weird idea, but I just thought of something. I think it is important to note that while Azhor Ahai is one person, one body, in actuality it discusses 2 souls, his, and Lightbringer's (formerly Nissa Nissa's). It takes 2 to be the Prince that was Promised, the sword and the sword hand, so it makes sense that we need 2 contenders in a way

[@Hatypus]

It's clearly unnamed peasant No. 35467

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

I think it's 43670

[@Thaistickthai]

Unnamed peasant No. 35467 is a secret targaryean as his mother snuck into Maegor's hold fast one night when the moon was the blade of an axe. She brought with her a capon baster, some salve that was slick as ice and a drop of sweetsleep. Her goodfather and husband were masons who built the castle and its many secret passageways. Before Maegor feasted the workers upon completion of their work her husband had shared those secrets with her. Before she returned to her unnamed village in the Crownlands she had the seed of the dragon quickening inside her womb and her plan for vengeance in motion...

[@murrayd3152]

Can’t wait for the subsequent videos!

[@Qu_chan]

I know this is a 2 year old video. but, something about how they refer to Alleras to a "Sphinx" could be due to his racial background in this context? Maybe, they call it to those of mixed heritage. Like Body of a lion could refer to someone Essos due to its mixture of Black and South Asian identity, wings of a hawk could simply be translated as wings of a Dragon, and face of a human could also be interpreted as someone who is normal and non-Targaryen aka a northman or a dornishman. That's how I interpreted it. Well that's what the book's dialog basically said in the small piece you gave. Also, Maybe Jon would probably or most likely have a son birth from the Dothraki tribe since their weapons were able to light up in flames. Hence the same thing the Azor Ahai can do. I would say that this would make the child of Jon have Targaryen blood. Due to Jon being a Targaryen in secret this would make the child be from said 3 mixtures. Thinking about ...this kinda makes the Targaryen rule even be more powerful than ever.

[@vurtigoneiii275]

Oedipas: "iːdɪpəs" not "O-eedipus" Sorry that was just annoying me. Good video though.

[@TheDisputedLands]

Hey thanks. Im sorry if my pronunciation was bothering, it wasnt my intention and i do appreciate the correction.

[@vurtigoneiii275]

@@TheDisputedLands now I feel guilty :( it wasn't bothering me that much. Just sounded like you were permanently disappointed with the guy, like "oh Oedipus, what have you done now". :)

[@TheDisputedLands]

@@vurtigoneiii275 lol, no please dont feel guilty. I wasnt disappointed in this hero, he is a circumstance of his fate. A good rule of thumb for mispronunciation is a peron had learned the word through reading rather than hearing it spoken. I just dont have many opportunities to discuss heroes and monsters aloud... its always been O-edipus in my head whenever i read it. I do appreciate the correction, and thank you so much for watching and commenting!

[@vurtigoneiii275]

@@TheDisputedLands it's all ok. I was only joking about the disappointment part and I totally understand with the mispronunciation. Keep up the good work :)

[@SakiBlablabla]

The Disputed Lands ... if we actually want to really talk about the pronunciation, Œ is a diphthong, it is pronounced as a closed E in greek , it sounds like a E and an U ( and even an I sometimes) all at the same time ...which is pretty hard to pronounce for anglophones ! Here is the greek prononciation kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWLGcqagfs2hh7M And here is the anglophonic prononciation : kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJO5oHyGl7qiprs Mispronunciations with Greek words are very understandable, especially when you only read them indeed ! Greeks literally have like the opposite vowels prononciation from Germanic languages and English might be the softest Germanic language , it is still a Germanic language ! So don’t worry as much as you annoyed some people...we still all understood what you said !

[@girlnettles]

Alleras (the sphinx) is a woman pretending to be a man. Isn't that part of the clue for Azor Ahai being a woman? The riddle is the sphinx.

[@Kceam]

I just realised a lot of this theory got confirmed or supported by the "Aegons Dream" stuff in HOTD

[@heliopolitan444]

PLZ PLZ PLZ WHO'S THE 3RD HEAD 😭😭😭

[@chickenusgoddus464]

Could aegon vi be the third head of the dragon?