Best HUNTER Super? (Damage Testing) | Destiny 2 Revenant Act 2

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Aztecross

Aztecross

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@justpazzingby13
@justpazzingby13 4 күн бұрын
This guy looks like a Hunter, acts like a Titan, but mains a Warlock.. Truly a Destiny player of all time..
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 4 күн бұрын
Plays titan better half of the time anyways lol
@aufaahkam9823
@aufaahkam9823 3 күн бұрын
More like look like a hunter, act like a warlock (his video analysis about destiny) and main a titan.
@moiraine6453
@moiraine6453 3 күн бұрын
when did he become a warlock main?
@uncha1n3dalpha
@uncha1n3dalpha 3 күн бұрын
​@@moiraine6453 He's always been a warlock main. He just denies it like his life depends on it.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 3 күн бұрын
@@atsukana1704 Considering he has to get carried in "difficult" content because he refuses to do anything but clear adds, and only likes PvP when there's a conga line of Thumbless Joes in front of him, that's not saying a whole lot.
@markjordan7412
@markjordan7412 4 күн бұрын
Bungie: Due to hunter supers under performing, we are nerfing stompees.
@4th-horseman
@4th-horseman 3 күн бұрын
@@markjordan7412 seems fair tbh
@Rynobii
@Rynobii 3 күн бұрын
This is so sad, nerf bubble more
@cayde-7745
@cayde-7745 3 күн бұрын
​@Rynobii it's already been nerfed though and we jus5 buffed stompees
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
​@@Rynobii Nah. Nerf getaway artists again
@lanceolot7498
@lanceolot7498 4 күн бұрын
Damage testing videos from you are high key my favorite form of entertainment
@ThePackman627
@ThePackman627 4 күн бұрын
The reason why people were asking for radiant for Golden gun, is the fact that it's the only super that reaches its highest potential with radiant, whereas every other one and done super you can just pop it and it does its max damage, but with Golden gun in order for it to do its max damage it needs to have radiant
@BlakeariousGaming
@BlakeariousGaming 4 күн бұрын
Same with blade barrage, idk why he insisted radiant doesnt help, it literally adds more projectiles
@notzander2685
@notzander2685 4 күн бұрын
It literally says in the description "Benefits from Radiant", I don't know how you could miss it
@kaicrutcher1313
@kaicrutcher1313 4 күн бұрын
Kinda on the same topic (not that its going to be the same caliber of damage) doesn't throwing the smoke on void before shooting mobious buff the damage? (Which cross didn't do) cuz the first shot also applies weaken, buffing the damage of successive shot(s) but if you throw the smoke first it then buffs the damage on all the mobious shots
@dushbig5628
@dushbig5628 4 күн бұрын
@@kaicrutcher1313 All you would have to do to see the correct max damage would be to figure out how much a single volley of tether shot does and increase it's damage by 30% and multiply that number by 3. You could easily achieve this by using Tractor to debuff so the first shot does maximum damage, though in those case you'd be sacrificing your heavy and exotic to do this, so in most cases unless you were raiding, and even then, it just wouldn't be worth it.
@chrishaywood2458
@chrishaywood2458 4 күн бұрын
​@kaicrutcher1313 no that's adding a grenade / melee to the super for weaken. If you wanna weaken everything should everything be tested after tractor cannon? Why not? Cuz that's not the super.
@DaToby98
@DaToby98 4 күн бұрын
So funny how spectral blades have gotten so many buffs yet its still so bad 😂
@CGR1410
@CGR1410 3 күн бұрын
@@DaToby98 just give us katana with a big sword swing hit box fr
@hatchell18
@hatchell18 3 күн бұрын
Dude why can’t they give spectral blades the same tracking and hitbox as arc staff? It would actually be good if it could fucking hit the damn target smh. It’s bad because it misses 90 percent of the time smh.
@macadelic3503
@macadelic3503 3 күн бұрын
Been saying this , like they make it seem hard then it actually is to fix it , just allow more forgiveness while ur swinging it , if u miss then it doesnt drain ur super, or just buff the hell out of the tracking and hit box ​@@CGR1410
@roguedy
@roguedy 3 күн бұрын
@@hatchell18 while I completely agree that the hit reg is awful, it’d still do terrible damage even if they did buff it. It just needs a buff to its tracking as well as it’s damage. If bungie could find their last brain cell, they’d give it a similar damage buff to the one that sentinel shield accidentally got
@hatchell18
@hatchell18 3 күн бұрын
@ they already buffed its damage by 35 percent, then gave it another 20 percent damage buff after that, but yeah I agree the damage is still way too low even for a roaming super. They need to basically just double its damage so it does around 800-850k on top of fixing the tracking/hit registration. That combined with the recent roaming super regen and damage changes would make it super good then. But if they at least just fixed the tracking/hit registration it would at least be decent since you can spam it.
@hugomungus7306
@hugomungus7306 4 күн бұрын
Blight ranger doing more than star eater with gathering storm hurts my brain. Edit: spectral needs to apply volatile on light hits, holy hell.
@dushbig5628
@dushbig5628 4 күн бұрын
And to not have ass hit registration/horrible lunge. I don't understand Bungie's obsession with having most, if not all melee based supers have some kind of annoying lunge. The lunge shouldn't apply if something is already THAT close to you. Spectral Blades would be much better if you could actually consistently hit anything with it.
@cayde-6502
@cayde-6502 4 күн бұрын
@@dushbig5628 It would be a little over 500k but thats about it. Cross only lunged once away from the boss in the second attempt which translates to maybe 2-3 possible hits in the time. And 500k is really bad compared to other hunter supers and especially in cimparison to his titan video where the worst super was still almost 700k. Better hitreg would overall make the super feel better, but not actually perform much better
@roguedy
@roguedy 3 күн бұрын
@@cayde-6502 they should just give spectral an overhaul, a rework, or a complete replacement at this point. It has the worst damage and the worst hit reg out of pretty much any ability in the game. Bungie’s been chipping away at the problem with the tiny buffs they been giving it but I don’t think they understand how unusable the super feels
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 3 күн бұрын
Blight Ranger is gated by how quickly a boss deals its damage. Ogre Bosses will always showcase the ceiling of that exotic because of how their eyebeams work.
@ryangower5292
@ryangower5292 4 күн бұрын
They need to add what they did to titan barricade to blight ranger where it forces everything to focus on you then they need to remove the stun effect that staggers them and stops damaging you. It still won't be the best but it would make the concept they're shooting for a lot better.
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 3 күн бұрын
And this is the reason why, if I ever use Silence and Squall, I'll gravitate to pure stasis as its fragment, Durance, increases the duration on field. Prismatic loses out on that, and would only play into prismaric for facet of Ruin to combo in ice breaker for ignitions.
@blackfang0815
@blackfang0815 3 күн бұрын
Ruin buffs the range of Ignitions but not the damage, so I'm pretty sure you can run pure Stasis with Icebreaker and get better damage.
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 3 күн бұрын
@blackfang0815 just goes to show how little I play PvE, lol.
@drakeking6745
@drakeking6745 3 күн бұрын
happy to see the maxed out attempt on Silence and Squall, my favorite of the hunter supers by far, seeing it near the top of one shot supers makes me smile
@desimoto
@desimoto 4 күн бұрын
Blight ranger is the only time id be ok if friendly fire existed. Imagine your teammates dumping their full load into you (pause) and you reflect it towards the boss with the dmg buff from blight ranger....would be dope asf
@thechunkmaster8794
@thechunkmaster8794 3 күн бұрын
There was a brief period of time in Witch Queen where that exact strat was meta.
@johnalbone30192
@johnalbone30192 4 күн бұрын
With radiant flux they should give you max stacks if you pop super while amplified.
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 4 күн бұрын
It doesn’t stack?
@snottytoe6957
@snottytoe6957 3 күн бұрын
@@atsukana1704 it stacks to 3
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 3 күн бұрын
​@atsukana1704 pretty sure he was saying it as getting the x3 synapse (I think that's the name) when amplified. Allowing it to having a much more longer duration than what it has right now due to needing to stack up the first combo rotation.
@slingshotnerd
@slingshotnerd 3 күн бұрын
Or you could just spam attack to get x3 in 1 freaking second
@tenacity25
@tenacity25 3 күн бұрын
@@slingshotnerd The point is to give a greater super extension than normal if you're amplified, thus making it actually have direct subclass verb synergy. Not that its hard to get 3 stacks already.
@KlausBenja
@KlausBenja Күн бұрын
I love this canadian man, who uploads whenever there is a new patch, and does testing with everything they changed in the patch.
@x.Artorius
@x.Artorius 4 күн бұрын
19:01 the mythical dad sneeze
@montagor0117
@montagor0117 4 күн бұрын
I love Cross saying "retiring after this video." He will come back next big change to the sandbox for sure. Give this man a raise for all the work he's doing.
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
You should've cancelled blight ranger super on the end to tack on some extra damage when standing near greg.
@ek5268
@ek5268 4 күн бұрын
Arc staff being viable is wild, what a time to be alive
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 3 күн бұрын
Amen, and I was an arcstrider main during the early D2 days.
@SHANK0819
@SHANK0819 3 күн бұрын
Been waiting for arc staff to make a return love that it's good now
@SogekiHalo
@SogekiHalo 3 күн бұрын
The hunter exotic class item with star eaters and ghalanor is so good with buff to roaming supers ✨️
@bornhunter9137
@bornhunter9137 Күн бұрын
I swear, i am using Prisma with strand super. In GM absolutely crazy! Had 10 supers in one run!
@NakedGrif05
@NakedGrif05 3 күн бұрын
I remember when Hunters use to do high damage with their supers
@patrickoakley7890
@patrickoakley7890 4 күн бұрын
Raiden Flux is absolutely amazing now. I used it in the Arms Dealer GM and ended with 235 kills with 88 orbs printed.
@thedeathofaman
@thedeathofaman 4 күн бұрын
Wish prismatic hunter had arc staff lol
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 3 күн бұрын
Same!
@CGormanR35
@CGormanR35 3 күн бұрын
Wish it had Blade Barrage tbh
@SHANK0819
@SHANK0819 3 күн бұрын
Grappling around with arc staff would be so damn fun sadly we got storms edge which is probably the shittiest pve super
@CGormanR35
@CGormanR35 3 күн бұрын
@ Its not the worst certainly like using it with SES but yeah Staff and Barrage would just be utter Chefs kiss in Pris
@Kazuhira2249
@Kazuhira2249 3 күн бұрын
right instead we only get the pvp only super in prismatic for arc which sucks
@mac6860
@mac6860 3 күн бұрын
As far as identity goes Warlocks/Titans have always been utility, while Hunter has always been the selfish damage class. So Hunters suddenly outclassing everyone else with Celestial/Still Hunt made sense to me. Then it was nerfed, and Hunter didn't really have anything to stand out. I get that we all want to feel powerful, but we should also be okay with some classes shining in certain scenarios.
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
Nah. You guys are the roll then punch class now. I as a titan main will be the high damage super class 😂.
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 3 күн бұрын
​@@Voodoo_Occasionswe aren't even the best melee class though. Titans are still better.
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 It's pretty close. Hunters are better at clearing adds, but Titans stomp champions pretty easily.
@Angel_11_legnA
@Angel_11_legnA 2 күн бұрын
I dunono,, it isn't that deep. They all have their shining moments. I play all 3 and classes and find myself jumping back and forth for various reasons.
@BMacanik
@BMacanik 3 күн бұрын
Hinters are meant to be the glass cannons of destiny and the fact their supers are hitting so poorly, even with exotics like star eaters and celestial is pretty piss poor. I knew they had been nerfed but this is ridiculous. Reason why i just refuse to ppay hunter anymore is in part largely to the last round of nerfs it got and this proves it was a good call.
@FlashesSoccer011
@FlashesSoccer011 4 күн бұрын
I will never understand why Bungie keeps nerfing Celestial and golden gun when its already pathetically weak. And once it gets fixed to not have increased regen, there will never be a reason to ever use it over stat eaters ever again. This damage testing just shows how pathteically weak hunters are in PVE compared to Titans. And all i heard from titans was "Bungie hates us. Nerf hubter melee builds they arent the melee class" And now titans are the single best super damage in the game BY A MILE. And they have the best neutral game ability BY A MILE. Titans have been at the top of the foodchain far more often than any delusional titan mains want to pretend.
@snottytoe6957
@snottytoe6957 3 күн бұрын
They need the help, they aren't smart enough to buildcraft properly.
@samuelbeckley1870
@samuelbeckley1870 3 күн бұрын
Dude, I’m a Titan main and I totally agree that we are really powerful right now, but you are talking total crap titans have been the worst class in game by far for a very very long time, that is why they have had so many buffs recently, and even with said buffs warlocks and hunter are still amazing in all content, all you have to do is look at the player analysis, hunters and warlocks are far more popular in terms of number of players and how long they have been meta, all that’s happening now is hunters crying because they are no longer the be all and end all of end game damage
@jayluis7701
@jayluis7701 3 күн бұрын
​@samuelbeckley1870 while i would like to say fair enough my tempest strike was not outdamaging your thundercrash with cuirass of the falling star, something that cannot be said for concecration + synthos against gg with celestial or star eaters
@Delta-u5f
@Delta-u5f 3 күн бұрын
Golden gun will continue to be the meta in dps scenarios, the regen on it now is busted and you don’t use celestial for super regen, you use it as essentially a head start in dps.
@BeruntoBsy
@BeruntoBsy 3 күн бұрын
@@samuelbeckley1870 The recent Buffs have been a result of Titan Players complaining about the Prismatic Kit. Titans have had the best PvE Kit for a long time only suffering when it came to Raid Boss DPS because of the Supers. You can argue that Build variety has been better on other Classes. I can´t remember when Titan was the "worst Class by far" in PvE. Certainly not any time after Hammer Titan became viable years ago and it is still the best Build for Survivability and made Titan the best Class for Solo Content. As I said, Titan only suffered from variety and Boss DPS Supers (except for TCrash era) which doesn´t make it the worst Class when you keep Builds like Hammer Titan. Class Popularity doesn´t tell you anything about how strong the Class is, especially when everyone wanted a Warlock for Well and a Hunter for Golden Gun/Tether. Raid Bosses, where both of these Classes shine, are just a small part of the Game. Yes, all Classes are currently doing well in all Content but that doesn´t excuse overtuning. Your last sentence is just a bs claim.
@noahbredeweg9037
@noahbredeweg9037 4 күн бұрын
The editors should separate the roaming supers from the one-offs, blueberries are gonna have a field day with this in LFG
@topherthegopher3115
@topherthegopher3115 3 күн бұрын
6-shooter needed the damage buffs the other supers got, it’s just terrible. I ran it in a GM the other day, you can’t kill an orange bar with it, and the ads it’s designed to kill get wiped out by a teammates grenade. For a super that is thematically my favorite and visually fun, it’s so disappointing when you pop it on Heist: Moon and you can’t even kill a wizard with 2 shots
@lanjagg
@lanjagg 3 күн бұрын
I can’t tell you how much I love you giving your chat sh1t when they start acting up. It’s THE best entertainment.
@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z
@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z 4 күн бұрын
Not 1 biotic enhancement consecration doing more than golden gun….. god I love being a titan
@nottyler6776
@nottyler6776 4 күн бұрын
Spectral Blades needs to either be overhauled with its hit registration or taken away entirely 😂
@GisselleTheZombie
@GisselleTheZombie 3 күн бұрын
@@nottyler6776 why do i see u on every cross video
@nottyler6776
@nottyler6776 3 күн бұрын
@ lol I am a channel member. And I keep up with Destiny 2 through his videos so. 😂
@randomguy1706
@randomguy1706 3 күн бұрын
Silence and squall needs at the LEAST a 50% dmg buff. NO super should be stuck at numbers that low
@damsdee2214
@damsdee2214 4 күн бұрын
I mean, objectively hunter supers are depressing compared to the other 2 lol.
@fettuccine9896
@fettuccine9896 4 күн бұрын
Gotta love it when the dps class is pathetic
@thesonofcosmos
@thesonofcosmos 3 күн бұрын
@@fettuccine9896 THIS! I just don't understand in a game where most play all classes and constantly complain about the actual DPS class being too strong in DPS scenarios is mental with the actual DPS class being weak in almost every other aspect it just never made any sense to me
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
​@thesonofcosmos Still hunt/ Celestial is still the highest dps. He is testing total damage which has nothing to do with dps. No one had issues with Hunter dps except for bungie. People had an issue with hunters having better ability uptime than warlocks and more survivability than titans.
@Joker_Venom
@Joker_Venom Күн бұрын
More survivability than titan ? Bro...
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions Күн бұрын
@Joker_Venom I am talking pre combination blow nerfs, liars, devour, and ivis, rifts, song of flame's dr, and phoenix dive. In early TFS knockout barely gave back any health and that was titan's only way of survivability on prism unless you had spirit of the assasin.
@renedesmarais4756
@renedesmarais4756 3 күн бұрын
Based on your numbers, Bungie has successfully made the Hunter useless...
@Rynobii
@Rynobii 3 күн бұрын
Still gonna use it anyways
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
Still Hunt/Celestial and Calibans/Liars joined the chat.
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 3 күн бұрын
​@@Voodoo_Occasionswhy use Caliban's liars when prismatic titan exists?
@Voodoo_Occasions
@Voodoo_Occasions 3 күн бұрын
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 Consistent health chunks that aren't based on killing ads, access to navigator grapple spamming if you substitute liars with spirit of synthos, invis that isnt kill based, and a better prismatic grenade for dps cenarios.
@KYPspikes
@KYPspikes 3 күн бұрын
Hunters had Celestial and Stillhunt and it got nerfed due to complaints. Now look at them.
@XxDeathxX509
@XxDeathxX509 3 күн бұрын
Celestial/still hunt is still incredibly powerful lol wym
@daycejohnson
@daycejohnson 3 күн бұрын
@@XxDeathxX509it’s really not that great and requires perfection to be competitive.
@Phyzzl
@Phyzzl 4 күн бұрын
5:25 Cross I think what they were saying about raijus harness was that the extra damage was jolt damage. So if you just threw a nade that jolts it would be the same damage, so you could put on a different exotic (like star eaters) for a higher total damage.
@arjunbaweja7755
@arjunbaweja7755 4 күн бұрын
Not quite. They were talking about the jolting shockwave that comes out from you. It does a bit (like 50,000 if I recall)
@tenacity25
@tenacity25 3 күн бұрын
Once they've got it in a good spot balance-wise in pvp I'd frankly love to see Storm's Edge get a pve buff. I personally feel its already there after the nerf, but, that might be biased for my love of using it. I feel like if they can make it actually good at fitting the weird middle-ground between a roaming super and a one-off super it'd be pretty fun. Like they could absolutely make its cooldown way faster in pve without affecting pvp and get it to a point thats like, slower than a roaming super like arc staff but faster than most one-offs like gathering storm or something. Then make a good exotic to pair with it, a raiju / shards of galanor / etc equivalent, maybe make it apply jolt as part of the exotic (could be cool/flashy if it applied a jolt aoe after the teleport but before the attack) and get some on-kill regen looping or something.
@crazytalk8120
@crazytalk8120 4 күн бұрын
After seeing the Titan video, its very obvious Hunter damage needs a buff. Behemoth is wildly out of band damage wise, and prismatic warlock can do some nutty shit
@ThePackman627
@ThePackman627 4 күн бұрын
Behemoth is completely fine, because you can't use it for any ranged bosses and it's solely reliant on a big boss breaking all the crystals. And honestly all classes with their roaming supers need to be doing close to behemoth level damage. Roman supers need to be the highest damaging abilities in the game, because you have to stay in them for the 15 seconds you have the super.
@crazytalk8120
@crazytalk8120 4 күн бұрын
@ThePackman627 I agree there. My point is behemoth is, all things being equal, wildly more powerful than other roaming supers, especially supers that are only useful for grounded enemies.
@houseflygames
@houseflygames 3 күн бұрын
I'll say this, no super should be doing less than damn 600k damage. Its depressing to seem some hit so low, when back then it was peak
@matthewdemers7600
@matthewdemers7600 4 күн бұрын
I said it on the Titan video and I'll say it again here: Bungie needs to make supers feel super.
@ekkaar
@ekkaar 4 күн бұрын
The fuck does that even mean tho? Half of the supers in the game are broken rn
@lbozo9580
@lbozo9580 4 күн бұрын
​@@ekkaar he means pretty easily that supers should feel more powerful, when I use a super it should do alot more than a measly like 600k damage
@ekkaar
@ekkaar 4 күн бұрын
@@lbozo9580 most supers that do 600k are one off supers used in a dps rotation. Nice try tho (ignore spectral blades)
@ThePackman627
@ThePackman627 4 күн бұрын
​@@lbozo9580I completely agree. I think that most roaming supers at base, need to be doing at least 1.2 million damage. You think that's a lot of damage but it's over a 15 second long super. No one uses roaming supers because even if they do a little bit more damage than one-off supers, you are stuck in them for 15 seconds. Plus most roaming supers you have to be at the feet of the boss in order to use it. And any one-off supers like storms edge, needs to do way more damage than one-off supers that you can use from a distance
@nottyler6776
@nottyler6776 4 күн бұрын
It’s just bad when I can use all three of my weapons and get a dramatically higher dmg output than one of my supers lmao.
@JTrannVA
@JTrannVA 3 күн бұрын
I'd love to see a video on best combinations for overall damage rotation. Like what super and weapon combinations are absolute peak damage per class.
@milkman1816
@milkman1816 4 күн бұрын
It's funny how titan mains complain about needing their "personality" since hunters r taking their "melee class" thing but I've never heard anyone talking about hunters class thing, "assassins?" Like in destiny what is that? How the only sneaky like assassin is probably void and stasis for shuriken and maybe solar with the knives but other than that it's more of a ability instead of class thing other than that warlocks and titans r now doing more dmg than hunters which is crazy I thought high super dps was a "hunter" class thing but ig not
@HatTrickzTV
@HatTrickzTV 4 күн бұрын
Been saying this for a min lol
@reggielacey2235
@reggielacey2235 4 күн бұрын
Ninjas and cowboys
@dushbig5628
@dushbig5628 4 күн бұрын
A Hunter's identity is dying and being a massive edgelord for the sake of dying and being a massive edgelord.
@VCXZ883
@VCXZ883 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I felt that way with previous damage testing that put Golden Gun below a lot of the oneshot supers from the other classes. "Well, it's ranged, so it should do less damage!" Sure, but you also have to land the hit to do any damage. There have been so many times I miss the crit spot, or even just miss entirely, with Golden Gun and it feels awful. Especially when you're using Nighthawk. And as for flavor, I wish Bungie would give some sort of backstab powered melee to the Nightstalker. The smoke bomb that weakens just doesn't cut it for me.
@sonny3602
@sonny3602 4 күн бұрын
The whole point is titans only have one identity in the game. Hunters and warlocks can express it through many different ways.
@PixelleHearts
@PixelleHearts 3 күн бұрын
Blight Ranger during the Corrupted Puppeteer boss might actually go nuts because of how add dense it is with all the clones shooting the shit out of you AND you can move out of the lighting while in it.
@Kazuhira2249
@Kazuhira2249 3 күн бұрын
well damage wise still kinda meh but that bossfight is so tough solo that it becomes a pretty safe option if you wanna do hunter solo and like not be invisible
@kyledea187mdkjr5
@kyledea187mdkjr5 3 күн бұрын
aztecross when you're doing these tests set your frames at 60FPS, the lower frames you have the less Desyncing happens on the bosses
@griqs
@griqs 2 күн бұрын
That ain't realistic for anyone above it tho, why would they cap frames to play at cap
@theguywhoasked2520
@theguywhoasked2520 23 сағат бұрын
you can replicate that Star eater golden gun spam with six hunters now, seeing that the super is doesn't loose that super regen buff from having Star Eaters on- whereas with Nighthawk it isn't supposed to be able to get that super back super fast
@josetrinidad2787
@josetrinidad2787 2 күн бұрын
hahaha the zoom when Cross was pissed 😂
@blackfang0815
@blackfang0815 3 күн бұрын
Raiju's technically doesnt buff the actual super damage itself, but it does cause an explosion on cast that added a little bit.
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
Exactly, just a bit of extra damage on cast, provided you're nearby enough
@marcktop
@marcktop 4 күн бұрын
Raijjus harness was wrongly tested, it makes an explosion around YOURSELF so in order to buff the total damage you need to use it CQQ with the boss
@landongibson
@landongibson Күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure for Raiju’s Harness it’s better when there’s multiple enemies around to keep jolting and calling lightning down so for the vesper host boss it’s chunks him but for Greg it wouldn’t do too much
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
I heard you can stack Stareater and Raiden flux, was hoping aztecross would test this.
@thatr0ryt133
@thatr0ryt133 3 күн бұрын
To make this an even more top tier list if you assumed a standard dps then add that to figures you could get a decent total damage figure.
@matthewlamour8455
@matthewlamour8455 4 күн бұрын
They need to make an exotic for storms edge that gives it an extra charge ( like Orpheus for void tether
@lucasrouille3794
@lucasrouille3794 4 күн бұрын
I kinda had an idea for this. What if they brought back mask of the third man, adds 1 more charge + refunds a charge when you kill 3 or more enemies. Melee kills fund storm's edge. Would be cool but bungie is completely out of creativity
@cypher6313
@cypher6313 4 күн бұрын
Blight ranger needs to agro ads like bubble and shield do now for it to be of any use in general play tbh
@daycejohnson
@daycejohnson 4 күн бұрын
Still won’t see use lol, nobody is using their super for something like that ESPECIALLY when something like unbreakable exists. Just purely useless.
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, great suggestion! Also throw in free amplified.
@SilverSpectre90
@SilverSpectre90 4 күн бұрын
I don't understand why Bungie game devs doesn't buff the damage for Stasis in a season dedicated specifically for it. And that goes for the 3 classes
@cayde-6502
@cayde-6502 4 күн бұрын
Behemoth does NOT need a damage buff lmao
@Dynasty1818
@Dynasty1818 3 күн бұрын
Crazy that Raiden Flux is now the 2nd best damage super
@derikc24
@derikc24 4 күн бұрын
That Raiju Garhering Storm doing such low damage surprised me.
@iiRooB
@iiRooB 3 күн бұрын
Apparently capping your frame rate to 60 or below helps a lot with the hit registration of melee lunge based attacks, such as Spectral Blades. You should try it when you next have hit registration issues.
@reyth9887
@reyth9887 2 күн бұрын
As a titan main, I gotta say; Arc Hunter needs some serious love, alongside Arc Titan Literally both of our designated punch it class for the light subclasses, and its absolute ASS. The only saving grace between the two of them is the yeet missile, and pre-nerf combination blow. Arc warlock is also a joke. You wanna talk about class identity, what about subclass identity? Nobody's coping harder for an identity rework than the entirety of base Arc, and it makes me sad
@therevenge7
@therevenge7 4 күн бұрын
I think for Blight Ranger, you need to cancel the super at the end to get the extra burst damage explosion as described.
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
Yep!
@irfanrazlizam6770
@irfanrazlizam6770 4 күн бұрын
Arcstrider main since 2018, what a fun super
@Slimeblob.square
@Slimeblob.square 4 күн бұрын
If golden gun marksman is a roaming super, I feel like storms edge should be as well(need that super regen bungo)
@austindelacruz5872
@austindelacruz5872 2 күн бұрын
14:42 Cross saying he needs orbs when hes already at max stacks😂
@1LTXF
@1LTXF 4 күн бұрын
14:44 oh hell naw editors you're evil for including this ☠️
@MinoanHunter
@MinoanHunter 4 күн бұрын
Imo Hunter supers suck in comparison to titans(damage wise)... Let's wait for warlocks now
@taylormorgan3669
@taylormorgan3669 4 күн бұрын
I’m just hoping he doesn’t add apotheosis veil ability spam into the damage and act as if it’s part of the damage of the super which defo shouldn’t count. also from what I know rn titans have the highest one and done (thunder crash) and highest roaming (glacial quake and even the shield one rn due to the accidental buff). I know those roaming supers are very specific for the encounters they work in and even thunder crash has encounters it doesn’t work in although axes are basically the same damage as nova so they are doing insanely well with super dps
@223ndog
@223ndog 4 күн бұрын
What do you expect from hunters, all they do is roll around on the ground.
@RandomGuy-ci9nt
@RandomGuy-ci9nt 4 күн бұрын
​@223ndog That's pvp tho?
@taylormorgan3669
@taylormorgan3669 4 күн бұрын
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt hunters rule PvP and are cry babies in pve although the guy who commented on the video is correct about the super thing cus titans are just op rn so I’m not insulting him
@patriot459
@patriot459 3 күн бұрын
I’m definitely more a fan of kne and done supers for boss phases just because you throw whatever you’re super is and essentially add about 500k damage from that with whatever dps your weapons and abilities can do. So raider might be meta now but I do not want to spend a whole damage phase wracking at a boss and that’s if they even can be melee damaged. I don’t see how the servitor for war lords ruin could be attacked by raiden so it’s nice there’s still good viable options outside of just raiden.
@zombie4stomper394
@zombie4stomper394 2 күн бұрын
These hinter mains be some kinda special 🤣
@damsdee2214
@damsdee2214 4 күн бұрын
New dps strat. Well + blight ranger to block damage and reflect while everyones behind your doing actual dps lol
@fridaysatjons1097
@fridaysatjons1097 3 күн бұрын
Hear me out: hunters get 10% less resistance than other classes and cause a “bleeding,” effect to their supers, bleeding targets will take damage over time the higher the mobility the more bleeding a target will have, stacking up to 5x. This will only apply to pve, all class abilities will cause bleeding, excluding uncharged melee. Other classes will get their own effects that only apply to their class, titans will apply a stunning blow, allowing other classes to deal 15% more damage to their punches, warlocks will have a lesser version of the grenade boosting exotic going up to 15%
@heyitshammet
@heyitshammet Күн бұрын
i’ve never heard of this rodger’s harness exotic before🤭
@MrAsiapride
@MrAsiapride 3 күн бұрын
How weak do you want hunters to be? Budgie: yes. Titan one and done super: 1000000dmg..hunters: 400k yay
@kappa_k1337
@kappa_k1337 3 күн бұрын
I am using spectral blades on my invis omnioculus hunter right now.... its working rly well to clean up waves of strong ads and as a bonus oh shit button. Rly like it now with the cooldown.
@ruddredding
@ruddredding 4 күн бұрын
Appreciate your testing Cross!!
@1LTXF
@1LTXF 4 күн бұрын
8:02 Got me speechless here
@GloverGaming3
@GloverGaming3 3 күн бұрын
When you're testing something like Blight Ranger that reflects damage and you don't want your enemy to flinch, stop reflecting the damage at his face if you're not getting any sort of precision damage
@Barbariandisks
@Barbariandisks 3 күн бұрын
Bungie needs to improve the hit registration for spectral blades as well as the titan strand super
@Justhatguy2002
@Justhatguy2002 2 күн бұрын
The raiju saga was hilarious
@adamrowley3829
@adamrowley3829 4 күн бұрын
case and point why i stopped playing the game. Hunters suck right now so bad to the point I have only played titan for contest dungeon day and haven't touched it since then. I think I'm done until the next raid drops/D3
@DoubleGreenTea
@DoubleGreenTea 4 күн бұрын
I’m betting on spectral blade 🤞
@cosmicquazar88
@cosmicquazar88 3 күн бұрын
Classic meme when the WORST titan super was still better than the halfway point of the hunter supers lmao. Good thing we nerfed hunters though. Titans NEEDED to be the meta in EVERY activity.
@MeanAndPristine
@MeanAndPristine 7 сағат бұрын
Practically all Hunter exotics that buff Supers are straight up useless, little to no effect on the actual DPS. Star-Eater’s outperforms like half the exotic arsenal. Raiju’s is a perfect example, you can get the damage boost from Jolt from friggin anywhere and the Super bar refund is too inconsistent to matter. Star-Eater’s also gives you your Super bar faster (and more consistently), has its own unique damage buff, AND can still benefit from the same Jolt that Raiju’s can, simply by sourcing it from a grenade instead of wasting an exotic slot to get it. Even more damning is that Raiju’s is tied down to Gathering Storm, while you can slap Star-Eater’s on any three of the Arcstrider variants. If you’re going to make Raiju’s niche, then at least make Raiju’s the dominant option within that niche. Raiden Flux beats out Star-Eater’s on Arc Staff, so why can’t Raiju’s beat out Star-Eater’s on Gathering Storm? Getting beat by a jack-of-all-trades exotic inside your own niche is pathetic. Almost none of the Super exotic options significantly alter the Hunter playstyle and it makes them feel very boring in comparison to the stuff other classes get. Their neutral-game abilities make up for it, but the Hunter Supers haven’t been remotely exciting in years.
@LI_MIGI
@LI_MIGI 4 күн бұрын
Damn now I see why hunters want a titan nerf 🤣🤣
@YitbosSwede
@YitbosSwede 4 күн бұрын
Well yeah. If we ask for a buff, it will be nerfed within a month.
@yadeel8281
@yadeel8281 4 күн бұрын
@@LI_MIGI Tbf hunters want everything nerfed but themselves, especially those of the PvP variety
@-TunaS-
@-TunaS- 3 күн бұрын
@@yadeel8281 I don’t want to nerf anything, I just want my class to feel good 😭
@BeruntoBsy
@BeruntoBsy 3 күн бұрын
@@yadeel8281 How is that being fair? You are acting like people that play Hunter have a distinct personality. It is either everyone that prioritizes their own Class or people just want to have balanced Classes, especially when many of us play all Classes and that is why we really notice the difference. I am sick of these BS claims.
@DavidTorres-se8zd
@DavidTorres-se8zd 3 күн бұрын
@@yadeel8281PvP in destiny 2 isn’t real PvP that’s a joke of a mode, nothings balanced correctly
@scalf_
@scalf_ 3 күн бұрын
Blight Ranger needs to pull aggro like Titan barricades/Bannershield/Unbreakable
@therussbuss5314
@therussbuss5314 4 күн бұрын
9:55 Did... Did he forget that he has to cancel the super with Blight Ranger for the extra damage at the end?
@NrdDy
@NrdDy 4 күн бұрын
Y’all gotta relax. Dude is not a Hunter main. Hop in chat when he does these
@dah_1trumorty917
@dah_1trumorty917 3 күн бұрын
Aztecross having some choice fashion with hunters
@gutpunchYT
@gutpunchYT 2 күн бұрын
editors i swear to god if i see another damage testing video and he doesn't cover the explosion damage of blight ranger im gonna go insane
@mediocremouse405
@mediocremouse405 4 күн бұрын
I had around the same celestial super regen with my revision zero with vorpal on light burst
@Hoons24
@Hoons24 3 күн бұрын
How many times we gotta say that with raiju you need to call the super down on top of them. The lightning strikes are called down on YOUR character
@jaharifaulkner4011
@jaharifaulkner4011 4 күн бұрын
I think arc compounding works with the moth build as well so it's just doing crazy damage rn.
@toonwald9368
@toonwald9368 3 күн бұрын
Really wish you would take full advantage of blight ranger and cancel at the boss' feet when the super is about to end.
@soulshifter9035
@soulshifter9035 3 күн бұрын
The problem is he wasn't close enough to consistently proc raijus harness honestly is only good for the constant super regen and niche-ly enough for the first vespers boss
@redrumresistance8864
@redrumresistance8864 3 күн бұрын
While i doubt it would move the needle much, golden gun deadshot should be able to apply at least 50 scorch on hit so you can get an ignition (and therefore an extra shot) every 2 shots on beefy targets. Just over 300k damage for a super with star-eater is pitiful. I know it's meant for ad clear, but still.
@MoldySquidFish
@MoldySquidFish 2 күн бұрын
Just returned after 2 month break… WTF DID BUNGIE DO TO SOLAR HUNTER??? ARE WE COOKED???
@DrGaryOak
@DrGaryOak 4 күн бұрын
Odd that Radiant buffs reflect damage on Blight Ranger. What a strange exotic
@Revadike
@Revadike 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, makes me wonder if weapon surges work too.
@nikk7481
@nikk7481 3 күн бұрын
I think if Bungie wants more people to use 6 shot Goldie in pve, lucky pants should work with the super
@TempleGaming777
@TempleGaming777 3 күн бұрын
DPS is damage per second, Hate to be that grammar police, Gathering adds to total damage with weapons for damage rotation while Blight ranger dosn't
@JoshuaRAWRR
@JoshuaRAWRR 4 күн бұрын
Silently anticipating the warlock testing.
@spacecowboy4386
@spacecowboy4386 3 күн бұрын
ive hit upward of 8m dmg during vesper with storm edge, its so good. I've been saying this since the new season started, idk how yall r figuring this out now.
@atsukana1704
@atsukana1704 4 күн бұрын
Cross still refusing to test the detonation damage for blight ranger irks me. But benefitting from buffs is news to me lol
@zanesmith666
@zanesmith666 3 күн бұрын
storms edge with stasis debuff on enemy, and the enemy is blinded and weakened
@tecfrost4495
@tecfrost4495 4 күн бұрын
Still can't beat Blade Barrage's activation sound. One of my favorites
@jesuslikedpie
@jesuslikedpie 3 күн бұрын
They should leave celestial alone. It requires a decent amount of damage to regenerate. Seems fine.
@xlightlessx7778
@xlightlessx7778 4 күн бұрын
Idk if im more disappointed in how Golden Gun performed or should be happy Arc Hunter is doing good damage
@Muppet-kz2nc
@Muppet-kz2nc 4 күн бұрын
golden gun regen isnt the W people think it is compared to Titans overhaul chonk
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