Did We Just Get a NEW Subclass!? (Final Shape Stream Reaction) | Destiny 2

[@lucienmoolman8017]

Bungie done and made us the Lore-Accurate Guardians

[@booshninja431]

Facts 💯

[@Grayves_X]

We are more than lore-accurate. Most guardians can't do more than one damage type and most that can still can only use 2

[@trainedorphan9640]

@@pandaell1029idk you might get it in that exotic class item

[@colby8104]

Bungie tricked all you sheep with a trailer just like they always do. Happens every time 😂 Poor fools

[@pandaell1029]

@@trainedorphan9640 yea lol

[@bohba13]

PVP: haha, I'm in danger.

[@shanemcgee5863]

Shatterdive combined with hunter strand dodge.......well I'm dead

[@KuraVixen]

i wonder if they'll disable the subclass and exotic class item for pvp , that'd atleast fix balancing anyways!

[@samwhitehurst2465]

We thought stasis alone was bad

[@tyjames3339]

@@shanemcgee5863 that is one of the least helpful combinations? I'm far more concerned about the triple warlock lightning melee

[@SylasSilverfang]

​@@KuraVixenI would absolutely give the satisfactory to the developers, if they disable the subclass for PvP, but if they don't....I'm retiring from playing PvP in destiny 2 and just do PvE forever, since that's what they made this new subclass for, anyway.

[@LordRaine]

Also, I haven't seen anyone else say this, so I will: the Tessellation fusion rifle now makes a lot more sense in the context of Prismatic. Not only it's appearance, but the way it's perks and abilities work, it was clearly designed with Prismatic in mind.

[@voltus20]

Hell, the very name of the gun makes a lot more sense now.

[@redfinale]

That was my thought as soon as I saw this stream. I was thinking "god damn, they really were teasing Prismatic from the start."

[@HogardHooga]

I wonder what happens if you put a prismatic grenade into it?

[@Zack.G23]

Gunna be busted af. It already is lol

[@EepyGirlLava]

@@HogardHooga Thats what ive been wondering

[@thrice1084]

I think the biggest thing most people missed, is that the exotic rolls for your class item can be from any exotic armor in the game. Not just your own class. So you can do things other classes could now as well and create even more crazy combos.

[@justin-iq2od]

Just imagine putting celestial nighthawk and stareater scales on the class item

[@tazzarelli82]

I noticed that. I think the warlock bond they had shown us had synthoceps and assassins cowl merged. That's nutty.

[@MithrilSqueegee]

However, if you are a hunter and have something like Briarbinds, which is specific to void souls which hunters can't summon, then that perk would be a useless roll... I'm curious how they'll handle that

[@ncrranger8449]

@@MithrilSqueegeeit seems like certain parts are taken not the whole effect

[@mr.mutiny]

Necrotic grips and lairs handshake??

[@gbrassa]

This was one of those “fuck the engineers, slam the code” kind of moments. This is gonna be nuts.

[@beeman4266]

The Permeability trait kinda proved they already coded changing sub class types on the fly. Plus the craftening and everything. It's already in the game, might as well unlock it.

[@vincethebanana]

Jason Jones would be proud

[@Trunks_esp__]

Osmosis ​@@beeman4266

[@The-difference-exterminator]

what if you dont have stasis

[@Tlk2Rbts]

@@The-difference-exterminator yeah that's kinda my thinking

[@DestinyCool202]

As you’ve said before man, “F*ck the balance.” Bungie really went whole hog with this and I’m all in for it. I honestly wish I could just scream at the upper management to stop avoiding overdelivery and just let their devs cook

[@z1tterbewegung]

Destiny sunsetted balance.

[@Takkarro]

Yea, this is the most screw balance interview ive ever seen, and its gonna bring me back to the game XD

[@theawesomesausage]

Imbalance everything until everything is balanced.

[@sonnyankau9239]

the thing is, this doesn't just fuck the balance. they basically have to get rid of "subclasses" now and just make prismatic be the default. whether or not that's healthier for the game overall remains to be seen.

[@thecasualsperspective]

​@@sonnyankau9239 I think their goal is to erode "subclasses" anyway so that the only choice your subclass decides is the "matching your subclass" stuff. They want you to feel like a god whos truly mastered every element. We literally get to place a space wizard version of Avatar: The Last Airbender.... but like... Guardian: The Lightbender type shit.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

New subclass, new faction. Bungie when they're about to die is the best

[@JAK_Manufacuring]

They finna come back

[@gen8901]

Lmao. That sounds so wrong, yet so right.

[@Alckee]

not new. If you serve a dish made from leftovers is it really a 'new' dish? No.

[@hoxyheart5479]

Because they have to.

[@Know3ody]

​@@Alckee you are the most sensible person I've seen in 2 videos. What aload of shite! Bungo really screwing their fans on this one.

[@TBL_Miller]

This legit makes me emotionally happy for the bungie devs that were yanked around by execs, watching their friends be laid off, and wanting to just make good content for the players. This looks so incredible.

[@Awakeonuwu]

Do you really think the devs have more freedom now? I hope they really do, and will retain their creative freedom and control over the game without the execs interfering like they have been.

[@darkhollow2701]

I'm sure the devs really appreciate you saying that. I agree!

[@noseriouslyimserious4073]

Nah. They got what they deserved.

[@davidstirk164]

bro you litereally typed this comment make your mind up cretin @TBL_Miller 9 months ago I'll give Marathon a chance, but it's a shame that Bungie took their Sony money and turned their back on D2...hard to think how amazing

[@lorddcheddar]

​@@noseriouslyimserious4073yeah?

[@Doktoryuu]

i remember learning about extremophiles in college. They really do only thrive in extreme( the literal worst conditions), but under normal abundant conditions can sometimes even become dormant. Bungie is and extremophile and the threat of utter complete failure is the stressor they need to thrive .

[@michaela8426]

Spit yo shit brotha 🗣

[@cortspadet]

That’s me fr fr

[@mkloven101]

Bro talking about me fr fr

[@FATAL269]

lemme guess micro major >.>

[@Jbc1998]

Well said 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@DUKEzors]

Now we know how Ikora was able to cast Nova and Choas Reach back to back. She got that pre-order exotic bond.

[@GCPlugs]

😂

[@crazytalk8120]

I remember seeing that in Witch Queen and being like "Ayo? Uh...can I have some of what your smoking?"

[@Crimson_Samurai-h8q]

@@crazytalk8120 to be fair both ikora and zavala specialize in two subclasses, its not unusual for guardians to do that.

[@Uziqzx]

It was do or die for this expansion and they honestly might've nailed the presentation. The player count has almost tripled since this livestream (looking at Steam charts), the bungie stream topped out at 153k, cross had 40k. This was massive.

[@celphalonred1999]

Nightshift life so I slept. But maaan this looks gooood

[@ValiantNomad]

Ontop of Into The Light bringing people back as well, so they are on a roll

[@talizorahnarrayya5916]

​@@celphalonred1999same, woke up with great news

[@Mrpizzas664]

153k not bad .

[@maolcogi]

Those first 2 minutes have me giddy. I don't know if my mind can take this. :O

[@ShadowReaperX07]

Underrated point to note: ~7:15 - 8:30 Check the new Buff UI on the left/right side. Buffs are categorised by Timer duration: Shortest duration is a the top, longest duration is at the bottom. They shift dynamically when they're refreshed based on the above criteria. Appears you can have up to 8 buffs/debuffs (4 left, 4 right) - At 7:15 you can see: Facet of Protection Knockout Radiant Amplified Tangle Cooldown Heavy Handed Cooldown It's interesting that it's possible that it may get seperated into positive (buffs) on the left, and negative (debuffs) on the right. Though there is the occassional conflict, but this could be at different points of development resulting in Tangle cooldowns appearing on the left in earlier footage, before appearing on the right for later footage. Weapon ready buffs appear above the super bar as a completely seperate point. (Voltshot / Reconstruction / Lightning rod [Trinity ghoul]) The UI is exceptionally clean. Very well done.

[@TheDummyUnicorn]

Good pick, hadn't thought about it. It's gonna be really helpful and it do be looking crispy clean

[@jakeweyant3309]

The fact that they’re saying screw balancing and making us more powerful than we’ve seen in 10 years is really cool and even makes sense with the story. Theoretically being inside the travel would make guardians the strongest they could possibly be

[@rpemulis]

you guys like this? that hunter literally fired 3 autorifle bullets in that entire opening clip.

[@gavo7911]

@@rpemulis Mfw the sci-fi RPG puts emphasis on its cool sci-fi abilities

[@grizzlybehr1902]

​@@rpemulis.....ummm..... YEAH WE LOVE IT!!! This IS Destiny!!! It's literally what the game is known for, awesome abilities, amazing gunplay and an uncontested, top tier PVE player experience

[@omensoffate]

@@grizzlybehr1902no it’s not lol.

[@yerfriendlyneighborhoodsco3337]

@@rpemulis yes. because this is not halo, this is not shoot enemy to death. THIS IS SPACE MAGIC BIIIITCHESSSSS

[@dylanmumme6964]

20 bucks says “the craftening” had a huge roll considering how much the community liked it

[@JJMomoida]

That was my first thought when I saw the merging of different exotic perks. Devs must've looked at the craftening like hmmmmmmm....

[@Suckko]

I feel like it was already planned but the craftening reinforced their ideas so they let us have a few days of playtesting.

[@Suckko]

Everyone was stunned that they literally told us to go have fun for the weekend lol I feel like they were testing the water.

[@Redavv]

οr the craftening wasnt that random as we thought :D it was planned

[@metalfingers2129]

First flying character with actual wings. Savathun: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

While technically a flying character, Savathun is a boss, not a common enemy. I think that was what they were implying.

[@metalfingers2129]

@@lordpumpkinhead265 Absolutely. Jus playin around.

[@Scooterdrew1]

You mean Savathicc?

[@ezshadow3129]

*Oryx

[@metalfingers2129]

@@ezshadow3129 Fair enough, not sure why I forgot about that.

[@Cerberusuu]

The ending of the trailer, instead of "Make your own fate," really should have been. "Make your own destiny." What a missed opportunity😭

[@raven-0621]

IKR????

[@thebuttaman3993]

Guardians make their own fate is a staple tag line since VoG

[@raven-0621]

@@thebuttaman3993 yeah but that's the last expansion and the game is called destiny

[@josephbeerer7779]

Ya but it is a callback to the damage phase announcement in Valt of Glass.

[@docdamien7309]

"Guardians make their own fate."

[@PopularNobody]

At 8:03 you see that childlike happiness we all seek. Look at how in awe Cross was there. You really love to see it. Bungo definitely fighting back.

[@robbier3785]

Bungie fighting back but it’s too late. They’re toast.

[@sinnlos-erfolg5869]

​@@robbier3785so are you lmao 😂❤

[@robbier3785]

@@sinnlos-erfolg5869 makes no sense. Try again

[@Tlk2Rbts]

@@robbier3785 That's exactly what toast would say

[@Craig69er]

​@@robbier3785 oh crumbs.

[@zanzibear23]

New UI too! Buffs on the left, cooldowns and debuffs on the right!

[@madmanawesome]

Separated so well. Even weapon perks are in their section. Uix team never fails at going above and beyond with their designs

[@Ayeo998]

@@madmanawesome aren’t they the reason there was such a shitty design for so long or am I missing something?

[@unbeatablegamer1403]

They might not have been allowed to change/improve the UI.

[@seb5542]

​@@Ayeo998It was just outdated really. It was perfectly fine when it was initially released. It's just we have so many abilities and timers on screen now lol.

[@lpawowp]

@@Ayeo998bungie turnover has been so high since BL that those aren’t the same people at all who made the OG design

[@Lamp37820]

I dont think some people are fully understanding the class exotic. Its not just 2 exotic traits at once. The traits can be a hunter exotic armor trait in slot 1 and a warlock exotic armor trait in slot 2 on a titan mark.

[@Afrognamedglen]

This right here! It's the thing I feel could really make everyone's builds feel different. Even if you ran someone else's class perk/aspect combo, your Exotic perk set could change the build entirely.

[@sirmcdust5572]

Yeah this is gonna be crazy, at the same time good luck getting the right combination, the grind is gonna be real.

[@DB_________]

And the fact its random rolls

[@joshuawestlake8553]

​@@sirmcdust5572that's what's has been missing. Chasing the perfect item.

[@A40El1teAssass1n]

100% this. Give me Liars Handshake with Synthoceps and I'd be so happy, lol.

[@Shyn-Emberblossom]

Best thing I noticed in the stream... The dev's laughing and having fun playing the new stuff.

[@CaydeElric]

This was planned before the last minute delay. The exotic from the pre-order plays right into this.

[@Sypitz]

How so

[@sirmcdust5572]

@@Sypitz You can feed it your grenade to trigger different effects, since prismatic allows you to equip any grenade the exotic fits quite well with the subclass. I do however wonder, what happens if you activate transcendence and then feed your nade to the gun?

[@voltus20]

​@@sirmcdust5572double effect? Kind of like the grenade itself.

[@mistavoid]

@@sirmcdust5572 the catalyst probably gives you subclass effects applied to the enemy when prismatic or something

[@thiagogoncalves2795]

you guys are so stupid Stockholm syndrome is hitting you hard playing simp bungie

[@mohammedmijan8270]

I’m happy bungo finally understands that “if everything is broken, nothing will be”

[@hugomolinaOG]

This comment 👏👏👏

[@Telesto_Timelost]

lmao fr

[@apeksblue]

you must not have played during Forsaken

[@Hopkins8564]

A BAR!

[@MarvinAman]

Yesssirrrrrrrr

[@ashumon23]

For anyone that's curious! The song from the new Final Shape trailer (shown at the end) is "Kill the Crown - 2WEI"

[@MrAnonymozz]

I was so hyped up by the trailer that i didnt Even think about asking people for the soundtrack haha, Thanks my Dude❤️

[@gokkiyoutube]

So will Crow die in some sort of sacrifice where Witness takes him or something?

[@SanityPotion776]

2WEI always produces some killer stuff.

[@shanaedyu]

I loved playing strand Warlock for the feeling of being a summoner, now I can add ice turrets, arc buddies and play tower defense!

[@danny_dinthead8858]

3 Warlocks with the Threadling/Bleak Watcher combo, running thru dungeons with the Bloons TD 6 OST playing in the background.

[@dexxx25]

“I’m just the art director” give that man a raise

[@koo-hip9406]

Hot Take: They're introducing the new "subclass" as a way to introduce us to the next iteration of Guardian: No subclasses. You pick a class, you get to mix and match everything under that class.

[@thewatcher3429]

IIRC thats how lightbarers were before the vanguard invented sub classes.

[@ZionFlash]

How is this a hot take? They won’t give us this style of play for just one expansion and then make it disappear. Obviously this will be the new way moving forward, it’s not that deep and you don’t need to point it out because it’s literally what is being shown smh.

[@michaelmathern.303]

I think it might even be a step further. Likely there won’t even be classes going forward and you just pick what abilities you want to use and go

[@koo-hip9406]

@@ZionFlash I know you're the type who likes to feel superior to others by being a dick about someone else's excitement, but you're not gonna get that validation in the comment section of a youtube video. Go touch grass, my dude.

[@fenrisfafnir6490]

No next it will be mixing anything from any class or subclass

[@shanemcgee5863]

-Citans ramparts combined with Hoil -Path of burning steps combined with pyrogale - point contact combined with skullfort - ursa combined with doomfang

[@bitingwinds9208]

Holy shit that last idea

[@shanemcgee5863]

@@bitingwinds9208 SHAZAM!!!!

[@grimloc211]

I hope there is a way to focus perks for the sake of time

[@Lamp37820]

Kepris horn with barrinade

[@thesonicfanboi]

- Consecration + Howl of the storm + Pyrogale + Severance Enclosure Holy sh-

[@terrarians707]

I can’t be the only one coming back to watch this monumental moment of hype…😅

[@ih197]

The realization Cross had after that snap at 17:59 is priceless

[@aVenomousSnake]

That snap was pretty badass. I "grinned from ear to ear" as they say

[@wasiakrim4202]

Duuuuuuddddeeee! 😆

[@tylercamp6244]

The exotic class item they showcased for the Titan had aspects from star-eater scales and ophidian aspect. Both perks from warlocks and hunters.

[@josegaldamez6504]

What does this mean 👀

[@strifenineteen]

It means any class can do anything if they got the roll for it

[@ISAFMobius18]

Just imagining Byf and Evaze scrabbling thru the lore seeing if any of this is possible lol

[@adarkwind4712]

Zavala uses both void and arc.

[@ISAFMobius18]

@@adarkwind4712 simultaneously?

[@Thrasher424]

Osiris literally combined all of his supers and used them back to back so it’s definitely possible

[@wolfmcsnipes4192]

Didn't Ikora use Arc and Void while fighting an Abomination in TWQ?

[@adarkwind4712]

@@ISAFMobius18 he has access to either at any given moment just like here.

[@leemonarque4907]

I preordered today. Beyond light got me with the icewall grenade. Stand got me with the Spider-Man grenade. Any one reveal on that list would have been enough today, but we're getting so much more.

[@Matthew-qw6bi]

You're so right about the red subclass. This is way beyond most of our imaginations.

[@blakeeggleston1762]

I can confidently say this has been the most insane 20 min in destiny history

[@nickmitchell1863]

Seeing Cross this happy gets me so hyped. It can’t be easy being a Destiny content creator, Bungie pushing the boundaries for the players and seeing cross see that and be excited for TFS makes me excited man!

[@tonibasic7611]

its fake. he is so obviously faking each of his reactions I cant belive you people are buying this..wow

[@hugomolinaOG]

They still gonna cry while not being able to stop playing or watching content... Like this guy here☝️

[@madeindade4168]

Cross came in his pants from the euphoria and jubilation at 7:43 lmao 🤣 😂

[@double_o1746]

I've literally always wanted that instead of set subclasses you would be able to mix and match things instead and create your own unique build i never thought id actually see it in the game but im really happy its actually happened a great step in really using the great potential destiny always has had

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

Just as a reminder, that any single new elements (like the red element we THOUGHT we were going to get, and a potential Kinetic 2.0) would ALSO have to be worked into Prismatic going forwards.

[@SentinelStudios1]

I doubt they'd design Prismatic without factoring that in

[@slade6959]

The red subclass needs to happen to complete the prismatic rainbow and have even light + dark, then the prismatic subclass is number 7 which has always been a mystical number but especially with Bungie and Destiny with tons of connections and Easter eggs

[@tomasdi.stefano6827]

Resonance soon? 👀

[@zackbstylin4262]

I got emotional watching this. Crazy how much this game means to me after a decade and how much I missed the Ws. Feels so freaking good to be this excited.

[@mrfreakmaster2256]

What a journey

[@DivineHybridd]

It's been one hell of a rollercoaster. From the peaks of the taken king, to whatever the hell Shadowkeep and it's seasonal model was (my personal opinion on destiny's lowest point, lower than curse of Osiris) to the witch queen being the best thing since the taken king... Only to be let down by LightFall. I've been a guardian since day 1, Ive quit and came back. I've watched thousands of hours of lore videos. We never quit, we just take long breaks. And no one hates destiny more than it's most devout fans... But it comes from a place of love. We want it to be great. So far TFS looks absolutely incredible. I hope it lives up to the hype. I talk shit about destiny all the time but here I am. Eager to see what's next. I know this comment is kinda sappy but damn it feels refreshing to be somewhat excited for an expansion again

[@mrfreakmaster2256]

Me too, i play since the D1 beta and maybe in Osiris i take the only break from the Game., and of course it have its high and lows like every relantionship but like you said, we love the Game. I glad to see people not complaying for everything, just enjoy the Game . See you star side guardian. Sorry shity inglish

[@Trabreno30]

3:42 I love how the warlock pose looks like something Doctor Strange would do.

[@LornFortheForlorn]

i hate it now

[@wolrereaper]

@@LornFortheForlornL

[@monkeyjamzter]

" You're facing the first enemy that actually flies with wings " Savathic "Am i a Joke to you"

[@Geohea]

Oryx*

[@monkeyjamzter]

@@Geohea o shit he does have wings I forgot

[@grizzlybehr1902]

😂 more like, "not Xivu" 😂

[@scrawnyclownsnatch9656]

Combine subclasses, Double exotics, New UI, New Enemy Race, and probably more. Bungie really pressed the panic button and said F*CK the balance! Throw everything at them and lets balance it later like we did in Forsaken (for better or worse). Also, I fond it ironic Shaxx said "Getting Creative" to an all black Shader.

[@strifenineteen]

Not double exotics, 1 exotic which has random rolls from other exotics, even those outside of your choosen class

[@cehaem2]

@@strifenineteen Now we know why we'll be getting these 100 extra slots.

[@Aura1342]

THEY COOKED!! New combining subclasses, multiple exotics on at once!? Oh it’s time baby

[@Know3ody]

Perfect way to get away with adding f all new and the fans are going crazy ☠️🤣

[@daniellehoe2360]

Yep let’s hope they are not block by a dlc paywall

[@csnation]

@@daniellehoe2360 They will be. The whole combination thing is probably integral to the story... Kinda like how Stasis and Strand are tied to specific DLCs. Also I wonder if you are say lacking Beyond light or Lightfall, would you just be stuck with 3 elements only.

[@Tzoppo11]

@@Know3ody Keep saying this while completely ignoring the massive amount of work and insane combinations we can play with now. You really make yourself look like an idiot more so than anyone else could hope to, so great work!

[@KoruKinshi]

​@@daniellehoe2360 I hope they ARE. Poor.

[@ArtIsLifeninty]

they truly looked like they had fun designing this part of the upcoming expansion and it shows in the end product!!

[@l.grapperhaus4466]

Couldn't help but rewatch the beginning here just to see Aztecross' reaction, love it brother!

[@tronicalli7587]

This means hunters can have 7 grenades. Use the exotic class item with armamentarium perk and combine that with the strand aspect that gives you a 2ns grenade and youve got 3 grenades. Then all you need to do is throw the grenades, cast transcendence to restore all your ability energy, anf get those 3 grenades back plus the special combonade.

[@williameldridge9382]

Armamentarium doesn't allow you to exceed two grenades. This has been a limitation since it was implemented. Even on the grenade type that allowed Titans to have two grenades, even with the Armamentarium we couldn't get three. So unless they are making a major change in Final Shape, it will likely remain that way even then. It's possible they could be, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

[@ecfeclipse]

We are finally the lore accurate guardian

[@too_official6194]

Nun of the enemies are actually lore accurate tho especially the hive

[@amirmoneyplayz8757]

@@too_official6194🤓☝️

[@thunderchief7256]

@@too_official6194I’d say they are for the most part

[@too_official6194]

@@thunderchief7256 nah hell nah especially not the hive oryx could have eaisly destroyed are galaxy if he wanted to could have easily blew up earth so much lore we aren’t lore accurate and the hive aren’t ether nether are psions they can literally lift up planets and toss them ikora destroyed a star eaisly it goes on 3 death singers killed trillions with the death song in a few hours and they are way weaker then even oryx twin daughters who invented the song

[@thunderchief7256]

@@too_official6194 Those are all only specific individuals though

[@chuubird1171]

great touch on the psion dreads. the psions are a race that were conquered by the cabal because they had this connection of the mind, now the witness i assume saw potential in the psions and can now use the darkness and also harness strand like the guardians did just a theory tho love the psions

[@ammuhautaavaikene123]

I legit teared up and laughed out loud by myself watching this stream. PHENOMENAL JOB BUNGIE!

[@Red-Viper-Red]

Same dude soooooo hyped

[@Valskyr]

literal soy

[@KevlarCurt]

@@Valskyr😂

[@Indeficiency]

You haven’t even played it and you’re praising. Weird.

[@blazerunner5666]

@@Indeficiency I feel bad that you've never felt this "excitement" emotion, *that* is weird.

[@austinhess4967]

This is the most excited ive been for destiny content in many many years. Kinda gave me that feeling i had when the taken king was revealed back in the day.

[@kevinfrye1269]

I don't think I've ever seen the Bungie staff members so full of pride an excitement. This is gonna be a wild ride... n long time coming. Well done

[@Indeficiency]

“Well done” Hasn’t even played it…

[@kevinmlfc]

I saw the exact same excitement in the strand expansion vod

[@GageMason]

you havent even played it yet you goober. im willing to bet money it is significantly less out there than they are advertising. always take bungies words with a huge grain of salt.

[@Sen-FiredBullet]

I’m ready for one hell of a complicated learning session with the builds

[@riquieri2577]

I'm genuinely afraid of a Star Eater + Nighthawk combo

[@robingray5168]

The only combo I want right now

[@denilsonthomas]

you cooked!!

[@Jacob-fl1wm]

I hope we can get mask of bakris with Radiant dance machines

[@arjunbaweja7755]

I do not think it is possible. Isn’t only where 1 exotic from your class and one exotic from another

[@Senuna-Asiyn]

Orpheus + Nezarec's Sin or Nezarec's Sin + Doomfang Pauldrin sounds busted af

[@bumponalog5001]

I am genuinely shocked at an entirely new enemy race, not just a reskin. That has me the most excited.

[@kratos3500]

Travelers chosen is about to eat really good

[@sirmcdust5572]

We truly are the Traveler's chosen

[@voltus20]

Now the nerf they gave it to the amount of ability energy it gives back makes sense.

[@coletrain8494]

This really is our Destiny

[@kevinstrother9925]

What I’m really enjoying about this is how much they are smiling…like they know they hit it big on this one and they seem comfortable in the whole process..which I believe is going to make for something great

[@blacksongoku312]

Cross in the beginning, "Ayo Luke wasn't sunset!"

[@kineticstar]

I have become Prismatic Death, Destroyer of Worlds.

[@nozyricgaming2019]

We didn’t get a subclass, we got subCLASSES

[@dmajorray6154]

Ngl the combination makes sense as masters of dark and light. But I still would have liked a 3rd darkness subclass. Maybe it still comes with the episode after tfs but it's still intriguing

[@PyraJord]

We didnt get a 'New' subclass at all. All we got was another subclass slot in our menu but this one just lets you pick and choose between all aspects and fragments without limitation. Its literally the easiest and fastest thing they could have done to cobble together a 'New' subclass in a few months because people were outcrying about no new subclass in TFS... Now what that has lead to is a kneejerk reaction from Bungie with a seeminly 'Generate hype in the quickest and easiest way possible and worry about the health and balance of the game later' mentality

[@nozyricgaming2019]

You get plenty of combinations to play however you want and people still wanna put it in negative light Jesus Christ

[@dmajorray6154]

@PyraJord agreed. This was the easiest option while providing maximum benefit. The system is good and makes sense narratively I believe. But it most certainly was the only option they had. In the long term it may prove better. But as of right now? It was most certainly the only way bungie could bring back players

[@Sam-vw4ks]

@@nozyricgaming2019And the worst part is that even if they do make a new darkness subclass it’ll be brought in a negative light lmao 😂 thank god these players don’t come back (but we know they will 😒)

[@BLXCKM4N]

I like how the Hunter is just a normal knife spin, the titan is just cracking his knuckles, and then the warlock just causally puts up a gang sign like he boutta pull up.

[@ninthfriend3347]

This prismatic subclass is soooo sick. Lightning surge with strand melee, with Blink jump and astrocyte verse, with devour and grapple? Grapple with bakris and coyote dodge and new arc super? Titan with Grapple, strand melee, with thruster? With these, I'm gonna be everywhere with these movement options.

[@abshirmohammed5985]

Calling the titan god-roll to be HOIL+Sythos with thrusters, gonna be so sick

[@EliteBlackSash]

Bungie, as a dev, is OG Undertaker at Wrestlemania. They literally wait until the lid on the casket is almost closed… before they rise up and start handing out chokeslams 🧛‍♂️… Also, I really feel like somehow Epic Beardman Jr single handedly saved Destiny BTS. Lol. It had to be him.

[@drumm394]

Cap

[@urazz7739]

In this case, I think Sony is what saved Bungie and put the smack down on the executives. The execs at Bungie pretty much killed the game.

[@grizzlybehr1902]

Honestly, I don't think well ever know "for sure". But I think that the best/most appropriate answer would be THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM SAVED DESTINY!!!!😊

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Cross had the best reactions out of anyone today, like legit happiness and shock here.

[@tecfrost4495]

Never forget that Bungie pulled Prismatic out of no where seemingly within a 3-month development window.

[@mrmarshy]

Can I just say, the callback / foreshadow to the most badass line was awesome. The end of the Destiny saga - Make your own fate. The message in D1's first raid, Atheon fight when you pop back in from Mars / Venus - Guardian's make their own fate.

[@oksobasically3278]

FR, always thought of that as an iconic line and actually hoping it would get used somewhere in the conclusion of this saga. Super happy they put that in

[@Viviana088]

I live and die by this line, so iconic!

[@ISAFMobius18]

My guess is Prismatic will have limitations. Like yea you can combine a bunch of stuff, but it'll come at a cost somehow. So if you want the full effect of a build, you gotta run a Pure Build Subclass. While Prismatic offers versatility while sacrificing power

[@Gemstonehits]

I hope it's like this, it would be a shame for it to not have downsides.

[@thesonicfanboi]

Exactly, if you want to combine stuff, use prismatic, but if all you want is arc with resto, you're better off just using arclock

[@kerch6071]

I thought it would have downsides similar to warfarer in dd2

[@Tygrave]

That'll be months if not years after launch though! They will let it cook HOT when it launches

[@subzero308]

Yeah bungie always knows how to water down and restrict they fun stuff.

[@eyecu-tt2oh]

RARE Bungie W, holy sht this looks amazing

[@arjunbaweja7755]

Rare? They have been doing a lot good lmao

[@BigBoss549]

@@arjunbaweja7755LMAO, you're quite the jokester 😂 thanks for the laugh

[@Giliver]

​@@arjunbaweja7755man what year are you in because that's not the case in 2024.

[@stuffandthings617]

Cross face when they explained the exotic class items was great XD Watched the video about everything yesterday and just now Cross video.

[@atsukana1704]

Guys. I was today years old when I learned I could combine strand gapples with shatterskating. I can now blink on any subclass of hunter. I can now use ivis plus a strand clone to get out of danger without endangering allies even better. Healing grenade on every subclass. You can run well and a bunch of your favorite stuff at the same time. The possibilities are nearly endless. The class items thing is something I have had an idea for for the longest time. My thought was to wear one and it would allow two exotic weapons but this is even crazier If bungie wanted to hype me up as a buildcrafter. This was the way to do it. My life is complete.

[@bardol359]

Bungie literally said "fuck it we ball" and I LOVE IT

[@thedardyboyy]

You know bungie is cooking when aztecross is smiling the whole time

[@tylerward7068]

I take so much joy from his reactions, he looked like a little kid

[@xDragvn]

WOW! i just noticed this but in the opening part if you look at the debris thats spinning it makes the face of the witness. Once you see it you cant unsee it.

[@paintwhisperer]

I remember similar energy for light fall I’ll stay optimistic at a distance and see how this plays out still lol

[@Fir7shadow]

This new subclass is what I've wanted since I started playing Destiny back during the Taken King. I was so cautious about getting The Final Shape, but my hype just went through the damn roof.

[@kennycarver1774]

Cross! I went back and watched your reaction after I watched the stream and it was cracking me up how your reactions perfectly mirrored exactly what I was feeling. This is the most insane stuff I've ever seen Bungie do and I am here for it! Never been more hyped!!

[@Yuliviee]

1:38 I SEE THREE DIFFRENT SUBCLASSES NOW GUYS cracks me the f up man hahah

[@notahanzomain5282]

My dad and I have played destiny since its release. From the very beginning, I’d always felt 2 things - one) why can’t we mix and match parts of different subclasses, and two) why can we wear more than one exotic? And here we are, in the brink of everything I had asked for at the start 😂😭

[@randyholcomb-3209]

I have played with my dad since day 2 of destiny 1 and now my 2 boys are getting into it.i always thought it would be cool if we could just have 2 exotics either weapons or armor.

[@too_official6194]

U quit playing bc u couldn’t do those lol fake fan 😂😂

[@JDxxxxxx]

You can’t wear an exotic armor piece with the class item but still yea it’s like using two exotics.

[@too_official6194]

@@JDxxxxxx yes u can

[@JDxxxxxx]

@@too_official6194 no you cannot confirmed by dev on twitter. You can’t use 3 exotic perks lmao. Only 2 from the class item. The class item is basically letting you use two exotics combined into one.

[@ChuckFinnley944]

Void and Stasis are literally my favorite subclasses for Warlock. I WANT IT NOW!!!

[@jule.snerns]

honestly, i’m a smidge bummed about the new subclass not being its own thing, but i’ve always wanted to be able to combine things so SUPER ready for this

[@craigcrissman4651]

Ideally, I think we would have gotten 3 darkness subclasses in Beyond Light, Witch Queen and Lightfall and then gotten this one in Final Shape and I think Bungie wanted that too but they just ended up not being able to pull it off.

[@Decoy303]

It's okay Bug. You'll enjoy what's coming.

[@x101xghost]

combining everything we have is way more content than a new subclass could ever give

[@willbennett7993]

@@craigcrissman4651exactly what i was thinking. wonder what the third would’ve been, maybe a red siva inspired one?

[@kennethswann6458]

I'm going to have to get a PhD just to figure this stuff out I can't wait I'm so ecstatic I have not been this happy about this game in a long time I'm having a blast with the new Onslaught stuff actually going to try and come out of my shell and find some people to play with

[@TechMaestro01]

The combined subclasses sound pretty dope, but I’m REALLY looking forward to the exotic class items! Here are a couple exotic combinations that could be fun/nuts: 1) Celestial + Star-Eater = BIG DAMAGE 2) Bombardiers + Radiant Dance Machines (could be interesting) 3) Athrys’s embrace + Synthoceps = High damage knives 4) Verity’s Brow + Contraverse hold = Constant high damage grenades 5) Contraverse hold + Nezarec’s Sin = Same as #4 but more consistent 6) Verty’s Brow + Ashen Wake = similar concept to 4 and 5 7) Pyrogale + Synthoceps = high damaging titan super. 8) Pytogale + Star Eaters. 9) Falling Star + Star Eaters 10) Sanguine Alchemy + Promethuim Spur = Long lasting double rifts (aka mini wells). 11) The stag + Sanguine Alchemy = Ultimate Camper build for Trials. 1 tap sniper + insane damage resistance. 12) Phoenix Protocol + Lunafaction boots 13) Starfire Protocol + Ashen Wake 14) Verity’s Brow + Sunbracers 15) Knucklehead Radar + One-Eyed Mask = Nightmare in crucible 16) Armamentarium + Osmiomancy Gloves 17) Armamentarium + Ashen Wake 18) Aramentarium + literally any other grenade exotic (I.e., Crontroverse, Mothkeepers, etc). 19) Point-Contact Cannon Brace + Synthoceps 20) Doom Fangs + Secong Chance 21) Doom Fangs + Claws of Ahamkara 22) Peregrine Greaves + Synthoceps 23) Wormgod Caress + Peregrine Greaves = Probably OP AF 24) Liar’s Handshake + Assassin’s Cowl 25) Liar’s Handshake + Synthoceps 26) Doom Fangs + Severance Enclosure 27) Sixth Coyote + Citan’s Ramparts = Barricade Spam in trials. 28) Dunemarchers + Synthoceps 29) Felwinter’s Helm + Synthoceps/Wormgod caress = OP Bonk build Etc… Edit: Okay, one more: Bakris + Star eaters. With the combined subclasses, you can have a stasis dodge to proc Bakris, and you can have the arc spear super with Star eaters to deal more damage.

[@thesonicfanboi]

The trailer showed that you can combine aspects from different subclasses, therefore.... - Consecration + Howl of the storm + Pyrogale + Severance Enclosure

[@lordsucuk9316]

Synthos + Wormgods 💀

[@doingboing4608]

Sunbracers + Bonk hammer might go crazy bro i can FEEL IT

[@perpetrator.]

Titans can use hunter and warlock items?

[@TechMaestro01]

@@perpetrator. yes sir! The titan class item featured in the video had assassin’s cowl and Synthoceps.

[@eliseorenesalazar9764]

Dude! You see Cross get his serious face on!?! I could hear the inner monologue, “it’s on now.”

[@patrickdietrich267]

I think the best part of this video is seeing the bungee employees laugh and have fun to me that speaks volumes

[@saber-cv4oi]

I know everyone’s excited about subclass and all but the animations in the cutscenes for final shape looks amazing

[@bigkduo5415]

As I was watching, my first thought was "I cannot WAIT to hear Cross's reaction"... did not disappoint

[@theguywhoasked2520]

AZTECROSS HEAR ME OUT: PYROGALE + SYNTHOS PERKS ON EXOTIC CLASS ITEM ROARING FLAMES + WAR BANNER + WEAKENING NADES = MEGA FAT DAMAGE

[@pch1370]

Pyrogale and Synthos used to work with an exploit and it did insane damage. It was good while it lasted and now it's coming back, love to see it.

[@pearson674]

I actually think it's going to be split up more than that, especially judging by the perks they show. for instance, pyrogale would be split into two, the one that changes the slide melee, and one that changes the super to a one slam.

[@rdraken]

Solar Regen + War Banner + Regenerating Void Overshield = "I'm Fucking Invincible" - Sundowner

[@ValiantNomad]

@@pch1370 Coming back without needing to hotswap too.

[@Afrognamedglen]

The fact that you can get Exotic perks from other classes (That Warlock had Synthoceps! etc...) has me really excited. The amount of unique Combo Class builds + Exotic perk combos, man my build crafting side is hyped!

[@Ninja__killer543-er7nf]

When I saw all those different abilities my mind went crazy with all the amount of awesome builds we can make

[@Brandon48G]

Bros face the entire time was that of the 12 year old version of our selves watching the xbox 720 concept KZbin videos during the rise of dinosaurs. It made me smile just watching ❤

[@victoralcasas]

Aztecross you called it. They had to do something game breakingly awesome to make Final Shape shine. For the first time I'm excited to try the Final Shape. If this is the end it will at least be fun and creative.

[@kingcultured3861]

This raid is gonna kick our asses

[@grizzlybehr1902]

Ooooh boy I hope so 😂

[@waffleandsocks]

😭😭 where was this energy for the whole game😭😭 they waited to give us this amazingly awesome content

[@Reksrat]

Dude it makes me so fucking excited seeing how hyped the community is for this. A desperate bungie always makes the coolest stuff

[@jamesdiaz8439]

Aztecross's build battles are about to become insane.

[@azurviper513]

Absolutely nuts!!

[@pch1370]

And probably extremely hard to do because he will have to get exotic class item godrolls for each build.

[@KodexKat]

This is gonna flip pvp on its head. So many powers to combine it’s like each guardian is different and special. This is my favorite game again💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@austinmyers1568]

11:05 did that guy just use the bayonet on Monte Carlo?

[@justivan6]

Bungie has the plot armor of a shonen protagonist. Like every time things look their darkest for our hero, every time they’re beaten and bruised and dragged through the dirt by the suits at the top and the community, they somehow are able to clutch up and suddenly they are more powerful then when the fight started. That’s bungie, they had no choice but to do this, they either blew us out of the water or they’d get dispersed throughout Sony, dissolving bungie entirely.

[@2400king]

The combinations are going to be crazy, i cant wait .

[@jessedevries6650]

Bungie really said yall hold my beer.

[@knightowl4844]

The one reason I think this was already kind of planned is the pre-order weapon tessalation. It's exotic trait kinda already has the vibe of mixing subclasses since it just takes on whichever subclass you use it on

[@Yuuhenshin]

But what would it adapt to for this sub class? Like, is it gonna be A kinetic or a whole new thing of its own? That has been on my mind for alot of time