Azur Lane: PvP Meta Guide

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@AzurLaneOfficialYostar
@AzurLaneOfficialYostar 5 жыл бұрын
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@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
IJN fleet normally runs Aurora on front to further boost the kill potential against the enemy front.
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
Good point, I forgot to mention her there. She is imo not a must have, but definitely a solid option.
@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
@@onii-chan6474 Also there is a 3rd option for DD main gun: 76mm AA gun.
@MakiMaki.
@MakiMaki. 5 жыл бұрын
@@RevilloPhoenix I wonder if the 76mm gun would be favourable for Ayanami compared to the Twin 100mm for the uptime on both her Barrage and "Supernatural" skill or whether the difference would be negligible.
@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakiMaki. I use 76mm, it works out just fine.
@TriconPOE
@TriconPOE 5 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for Aurora, blows up usually any Juneau or Eldridge just from the opening torpedo salvo.
@superzero98
@superzero98 5 жыл бұрын
nice guide, keep up the goodwork
@jankowalski9039
@jankowalski9039 5 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention that main thing that carries you in pvp is attackers buff of 20% dmg so (at least with current limited ship choice global has) defence is pretty much impossible and counters nonexistent so using any of those fleet comps can get you to no.1 spot. i did it with akamaga belfast laffey jintsuu. Also i think you shouldve mention that in pvp all ships have doubled hp.
@yummychips_
@yummychips_ 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, that 20% damage buff is the main point of how ship comps work in pvp. As long as you run aggressive comps with high damage output. Synergy can be thrown out of the window. Defense teams that can work, are basically high evasion/smokes/HP. Things to keep them alive long enough, and having BB's with hard hits trying to get 2 or 3 salvos off.
@rianp1300
@rianp1300 5 жыл бұрын
Failed to mention Hiryuu meh. Also it's *torpedo efficiency* which benefits most from rainbow torp, not the base stat Also use HE on CA because enemies are most likely light armor Also *accuracy* or hit stat that's the most important on BB
@adepthigh226
@adepthigh226 5 жыл бұрын
Totally pissed cuzz I spent 8 hours exploring the 3:4 but didnt even got a fox!!Akashi even telling me to rest
@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
Thing to add for HMS. Lusty synergy with Eldridge is a good combo to hard counter an Enterprise team.
@prohlibriindex5731
@prohlibriindex5731 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly, it involve dice roll, which sometime work, sometime not work. And hms is pretty much crushed after wasodak come out... Then vanished aftet amagi akaga
@RevilloPhoenix
@RevilloPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
@@prohlibriindex5731 Not really, my HMS fleet handily crushed WASDEnty fleets by the dozen. The new AmAKaga fleets are an actual problem thou.
@Guthwulf11
@Guthwulf11 5 жыл бұрын
that was very helpful :) thx for the guide
@SooyeonIdle
@SooyeonIdle 5 жыл бұрын
Now that Nagato has appeared and Hiryuu is close to retrofit they both kicked Akaga to the curb again.
@yummychips_
@yummychips_ 5 жыл бұрын
so. Cute video. But you left out the most major and important thing about pvp. The player has bonus 20% damage, therefore running aggressive comps vs defensive ones, when attacking is more beneficial. While running a survival comp vs a counter offense comp for a defense team works better as well. You nuke them a lot faster than they will nuke you when your attacking. So either focus on killing the front line, or a back liner. At the time of release for this video, running CL/DD with high FP/AP damage can be preferable if you are running a carrier heavy comp. BBs need survive/evasion/smoke vanguard to buy time for a 2nd or 3rd salvo, and works far better as a defense team, where your lack of the bonus damage against the player can be circumvented by dealing a hard hitting blow to their major damage dealing back line.
@framereggy113
@framereggy113 5 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for the wasd meta with enty and defensive vanguard. At lvl 100 full equipped and upgraded, I always stay at least rank 50 or below with only 2~3 lose because of RNG every season.
@satoriakihiro1283
@satoriakihiro1283 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha i still in the lusty combo and i can tell i will lose to wasd meta ffs i need to get the SG radar so i can move to wasd combo
@TheBuffon074
@TheBuffon074 5 жыл бұрын
What I like in this game is when it com to PVP you have a little bit of leeway due to the attacker side have 20% damage buff. You can put one or two non-meta ships and still have a chance to win against meta.
@widchaponjearaphunt5452
@widchaponjearaphunt5452 5 жыл бұрын
Some time I wonder, are we really get 20% buff, I know we get it, but some match I just lose too easy even my fleet power above my opponent about 2000+
@TheBuffon074
@TheBuffon074 5 жыл бұрын
​@@widchaponjearaphunt5452 That buff gave your a bit more freedom for your fleet but that doesn't mean it'll guaranteed your victory. It's still depending on ships + gears both you and your opponent use, and of course luck as well.
@Type03xx
@Type03xx 5 жыл бұрын
Favorite atk comp Backline: Akaga+Amagi Frontline: Junaeu, Bel, and Clevebro (anti-air against Akaga+Amagi, worked 9/10 times unless procs is bad) If they use Jintsu, Aurora, as frontline, then change Bel and Cleve to Ayanami and Laffy and trade blow to blow. This required bits of luck and hope AI won't move your team to their torpedo. That said, when come to def comp... MEME team all the way! My favorite are like Arc and the lolis, Tsundere team, tanned skin team, or or the team with same hair color.
@TheRicanNinja777
@TheRicanNinja777 5 жыл бұрын
I just run a bunch of Quick Takeoff with Benson/Fortune/Hammann on main to see if i can crash their game with too many planes.
@beelzeduard
@beelzeduard 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guide. However in EN, i still think that akaga amagi + torp vang is the best attacking fleet because of fast cooldown and sheer burst damage. To make things easier, you can place amagi in line with enemy's strongest backline ship (Enty, hood, depends) to kill it quickly.
@victortran2962
@victortran2962 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Eduard remember this is PvP, and you know AI is fucking stupid when it come to torp
@potatochobit
@potatochobit 5 жыл бұрын
you dont use torpedo bulge on battleships? and why don't you use fire extinguishers?
@mikagami82
@mikagami82 5 жыл бұрын
With Amagi available to all version, Nagato + Akaga has since been usurped by Tenryuumon or Amagi, Hiryuu retro(retro or not matters very little actually), Nagato with Belfast, Yukikaze, Juneau vanguard. Prior to that was double tech HMS domination I believe
@mikunakano8181
@mikunakano8181 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative guide you earn a new sub
@AlessioFullone
@AlessioFullone 5 жыл бұрын
Nagato indeed is dominating, no matter who's the vanguard if my level 120 Nagato (oathed affinity 200) proccs whole enemy vanguard goes boom.
@purrfekt
@purrfekt 5 жыл бұрын
That chibi art is ridiculously cute. Thank goodness they're not official skin or my wallet is done for.
@fajaradinugroho4247
@fajaradinugroho4247 5 жыл бұрын
How about switching Kaga CV with Kaga BB?
@widchaponjearaphunt5452
@widchaponjearaphunt5452 5 жыл бұрын
I had currently use that pro: - Really good again Enterprise team since Kaga BB and Amagi can shot her before Luck E - Good with HMS and Washington team Con: can easily lose against Kaga CV + Akagi CV since these two are to fast and Amagi, Kaga (bb) have really low Anti air...and right now there so many Kaga+Akagi (CV) + Amagi, so it a bit hard to use Note: Against Enterprise I alway move Kaga BB or Amagi on same line with her to shot Enterprise, most time Enterprise can only use 1 Luck E before she sunk
@widchaponjearaphunt5452
@widchaponjearaphunt5452 5 жыл бұрын
HMS team why didn't use Javelin/Fortune with Belfest and Aurora? Anyway right now I run Amagi Kaga(BB) and Akagi this surprise good against BB+Enterprise team like Washington and HMS, however they sink so fast when battle Akagi+Kaga CV
@drelouder
@drelouder 5 жыл бұрын
akaga + enterprise is the worst nightmare
@mikagami82
@mikagami82 5 жыл бұрын
I would think Aurora makes a better fit in HMS fleet too, and the third is probably should be Juneau
@widchaponjearaphunt5452
@widchaponjearaphunt5452 5 жыл бұрын
@@drelouder So far with Akagi +Kaga (BB) + Amagi I hardly lose to enterprise now cause Kaga BB with 'High control rader', Amagi, Akagi their skill proc before enterprise every time, so even Akaga+Enterprise it not that hard However I have really hard time with Akagi + Kaga (CV) and they're every where now (LOL)
@TheRicanNinja777
@TheRicanNinja777 5 жыл бұрын
Theyre all options tbh. Bel cant be replaced cause shes a value engine that counters Akaga. Leander staggers smokes with Bel and buffs Cruisers, so shes great. Edin is the flex spot tbh. But Edin is legit the tankiest CL in game. A perfect front ship for soaking up damage, especially with smoke and QE support along with Torp Bulge and Repair Toolkit, she's very hard to take down. Combo that with her AP buff on the Twin 150 (one of the best CL guns) with Leander's and QE's buff and pretty decent Torps (not the best, but not bad either) and she can still pack a solid punch too, especially given her survivability. But yeah, Aurora, Cygnet, Javelin, Fortune. They're all great options as well.
@sternendrache
@sternendrache 5 жыл бұрын
2:15 couldn't you replace Aircraft Carrier Kaga with Battleship Kaga for Akaga?
@anniedarkheart5224
@anniedarkheart5224 5 жыл бұрын
The strategy is to blow up the enemy frontline as fast as possible. Akaga is ideal for this strategy since double planes makes them more overwhelming. AkagaBB would be more of a PvE thing if you dont have a BB/BC in the 3rd position, so you arent bound to overkill and overlapping CV bombs and KagaBB has CL secondaries so you can run something like Enterprise or a HealerCVL. If you dont have Kaga, Im sure AkagaBB would be decent enough to get PvP wins, even if its not ideal.
@sang7873
@sang7873 5 жыл бұрын
I barely see HMS fleet at top rank(30-100) since Amagi come .
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
True, the popularity of HMS has gone back since WASD and now Amagi became popular. Nonetheless it's still a strong fleet which probably will rise in popularity again when new HMS ships are released in the future (like the Warspite retrofit
@MakiMaki.
@MakiMaki. 5 жыл бұрын
You wrote that Triple 155mm is the best CL gun with the exception of CLs that can equip DD guns. Does that mean I should put DD guns over CL guns if both are available?
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly! DD guns have much higher DPS than CL guns. Only advantage of CL guns over DD guns is on backline ships to take out suicide boats (which does not apply to PvP). Otherwise if the ship is able to equip both types always use a DD gun.
@MakiMaki.
@MakiMaki. 5 жыл бұрын
@@onii-chan6474 Hmm, so would I rather want a Twin 127mm than a Triple 155mm on my Amagi too? I'm kind of trying to juggle my gold equipment, so I can have the best possible loadout for my IJN fleet.
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
@@MakiMaki. Yes, even though I would say it does not matter much. If the enemy frontline reaches your backline it's often lost anyway. The Triple 155mm grants more firepower (+45 instead of +20) and therefore buffs your main gun damage, so it can also be used. If I think about it that might actually be better in that specific case. So yeah, for vanguard ships always DD > CL guns. For backline ships the Triple 155mm can actually be better just because of the extra firepower.
@jankowalski9039
@jankowalski9039 5 жыл бұрын
@@onii-chan6474 amagi at lv100 with 200 affinity has exactly 400fp and purp twin 410, gold belgun and hsfc radar give +100fp total so thats pretty satisfying view imo
@faraday2286
@faraday2286 5 жыл бұрын
It will be good if I change ayami with yudachi? In akaga feelt
@misot90
@misot90 5 жыл бұрын
Yuudachi's decent, but never as good as a Retrofit Ayanami.
@kdodoqpqldbfjgklw
@kdodoqpqldbfjgklw 5 жыл бұрын
Noooooo don't you dare change the torpedo demon for yuudachi Ayanami is soooo much better trust me
@forestllwong4789
@forestllwong4789 5 жыл бұрын
good bg you have there :)
@prohlibriindex5731
@prohlibriindex5731 5 жыл бұрын
My best amagi build is with juneau, jintsuu, bell. Bel amd juneau is best coumter to enemy akaga amagi combo, esspecially with hyper aggressive ayaya too. Jint for only reason to proc amagi boost... Jint> ayaya simply because ayanami dont do much other than first torp imo. She dont survive long to give enough value.
@rifqieauliya
@rifqieauliya 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one, but ive better fleet sync in pvp
@adepthigh226
@adepthigh226 5 жыл бұрын
What aboit zuikaku and shoukaku, are they good??
@xenvj
@xenvj 5 жыл бұрын
Decent in a way, akaga is def better
@ryzkyjaeger07
@ryzkyjaeger07 5 жыл бұрын
They are good for long game strategies and boss battles due to stacking permanent DMG OVER TIME so unfortunately they're overshadowed by blitzkrieg meta in PvP.
@shadow30100
@shadow30100 5 жыл бұрын
hms now maybe with duke of york?
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Duke of York is great in HMS
@raindeca111
@raindeca111 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guide (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ I'm always stick into wasd (exactly as your set) but wanna change my pace by combining it with IJN synergy (like wasd + akaga based on your video) Also Note: I think you can step up your enty game by putting one more golden steam catapult ? So why aviation oils?
@TheRicanNinja777
@TheRicanNinja777 5 жыл бұрын
Planes do more damage on reaching the end of the screen and that damage is based on the plane's leftover HP. So Oil Tank buffs that while helping em not get shot down too i guess.
@joseb2780
@joseb2780 5 жыл бұрын
Why is Mikasa not viable for a pvp fleet? We already have Amagi and Kaga BB so Mikasa buffs them a lot. I say this because I am afraid of future sandy retrofit and belfast counters akaga already. So why can't Mikasa be meta?
@minhvu3116
@minhvu3116 5 жыл бұрын
Mikasa needs to be flagship to utilize her first skill, which push Amagi to the side and waste her barrage damage
@joseb2780
@joseb2780 5 жыл бұрын
@@DaMiK83 Yeah I can really picture now Mikasa dying too early in the pvp fight, her other skill to reduce damage is really rng, so I can kinda see it hard for her.
@joseb2780
@joseb2780 5 жыл бұрын
@@minhvu3116 Not necessarily true, you could use Amagi to snipe other important shipgirls like Enterprise, another Amagi, etc, although I do admit her barrage when she is in the middle is good for hitting enemy escort ships so there's that. But Mikasa buffing Amagi to be stronger is another good thing, that's why I thought of Mikasa being strong now since Amagi and Kaga BB are new strong IJN BC and BB, making Mikasa buffing their firepower more than Nagato can.
@chenluming885
@chenluming885 5 жыл бұрын
the timing of each slide could be better... Don't tell me to pause when i am watching a video.
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. I will keep it in mind for the next video.
@alexandergautama2216
@alexandergautama2216 5 жыл бұрын
Shoukaku Zukiaku? no in meta?
@onii-chan6474
@onii-chan6474 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen anyone use them, so nope. I don't even have them myself, that's why I can't even tell you if they are viable at all. You can still try them yourself though, maybe you find a cool setup that works and redefine the meta :)
@akinommonika472
@akinommonika472 5 жыл бұрын
I ran them tho ..zui/shou/hood. Belfast/Eugen/Fortune . Since most of the equally powered battles are usually long and those CV does it best (cold and long battles) complete opposite of kaga/akagi which is to kill fast. . The more air strike they use the stronger the next airstrike thus pairing them with most tanky/stalling vanguard ships is the meta for it (hood to snipe core backline and reduce reload time of airstrikes.)
@ryzkyjaeger07
@ryzkyjaeger07 5 жыл бұрын
Only good for long game tactics, in a blitzkrieg battle they'll be obliterated before Zuikaku can even stack DMG to her strikes
@Sweetguy1821
@Sweetguy1821 5 жыл бұрын
I've just givin up on pvp, I'm not whaling and or playing 12 hours a day to get all the best gear
@NearNihil
@NearNihil 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you have a halfway coherent team and use up your charges every now and then you should be fine. There aren't that many people at actually care about leaderboards I think, but the resources, XP and affection you get from pvp are really welcome.
@shibazeki9858
@shibazeki9858 5 жыл бұрын
i'm using Amagi+Akaga as Main Fleet and Aurora, Jintsuu, Ayanami with all maxed skill. they are just absolute cancer on EN right now beside Enterprise
@kdodoqpqldbfjgklw
@kdodoqpqldbfjgklw 5 жыл бұрын
I would replace aurora w belfast sense she makes a good teamate w ayanami
@hsd6716
@hsd6716 5 жыл бұрын
I lack the iq to comprehend this Welp, gotta watch some rick and morty to boost my smartness
@LiveGoDaYDaYs
@LiveGoDaYDaYs 5 жыл бұрын
Go to jail with you Meta Ark Royal+Unicorn +Shouhou+ Mutsuki+Kisaragi+Uzuki
@gendalfgray7889
@gendalfgray7889 5 жыл бұрын
akaga is canser
@backpackpepelon3867
@backpackpepelon3867 5 жыл бұрын
AL got serious meta too? You cant make this shit up 😅. I prefer waifu meta, simple and fun.
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