[Azur Lane] The MOST IN-DEPTH Dive Bombers & Torpedo Bombers Guide

[@GoDofKiwiS]

11:00 I can't believe I'm lvl 145 and didn't know you could combine them. I'm devastated

[@HiddenRefuge]

Back in the past, there was a certain time window where these upgraded planes were in fact a viable choice despite the cost, not anymore though. I'd say nowadays - particularly in case of new players - you shouldn't even craft planes like the XSB3C, just stick to standard helldivers. Save electronics and do OPSI to obtain plates and craft the rainbow gear and weapons; they're far better long-term investment.

[@theroaringdragon306]

So I never really looked at stats and stuff; as I usually always equipped my ships based on the historical or at least most possible loadout if the ship was completed. But to see that there is not a SINGLE iron blood plane on here meant I really shot myself hard here lmao.

[@SeekGrace]

I switched my Independence's yellow Barracuda for a purple Tenzan Kai and her damage ramped up like crazy. Converging torps no joke.

[@gazztears2140]

Hey its the guy with ADHD so heres recap (equipment only) _(+ good) (- Bad)_ : ' Note : Purple equipment can be good or even better than gold so be aware of this list. *_Dive bombers_* 1. UR | Tenrai = (+ best damage) (- Long loading speed) 2. Purple | SB2C Hell diver = (+ Better than gold planes) (+ Medium and Heavy armor) (- Its purple and can only be upgraded to +11) 3. UR | AD 1 Skydiver = (+ Single target) (+ Light and Medium Armor) (- Only good for enemies who dont move much) 4. Gold | Yokosuka Suisei 12A = (Lower budget Tenrai) 5. Gold | Fairey Firefly 1711= (+Higher dmg than suisei) (- Limited event only) *_Torpedo Bombers_* ____*Parallel*____ For many many enemies (not good against boss fleet) 1. UR | Wyvern = (+ Best torpedo bomber) (+ can shoot planes like fighters) (+ For late game Ch 13+) (-Fucking expensive) 2. Gold | Douglas XTB2D Skypirate = (+Downgraded wyvern) (- Can not shoot down planes) (- a bit slower) 3. Gold | Fairey Barracuda = (+Good overall dmg) (+Easily farmed) (- not usable on higher level content ex. Ch 9 above) 4. Gold | Breguete Br.810 = (+ Can shoot planes like Wyvern) (+ For late game Ch 13+) == Other gold ship is just slightly lower of worse than Barracuda so im not even bother == Converging = For single enemies. (Must make sure the enemies no moving / slowed for full potential) 1. Gold | VIT-2 (PR 7) = (+Highest dmg) (- Slow reload) 2. Gold | Saiun = (+Fast reload for activating barrages) (- Balanced overall dmg) 3. Gold | Ju-87 or Ryuusei = (+Better dmg than saiun) (-Slower reload) (- Weird ahh torpedo pattern) 4. Gold | Spearfish = (+Good for Light armor ) (- Not used in many content)

[@paulpreserves8310]

i've been using barracuda up to ch13 and i dont think its an issue

[@miyano3116]

You should note that it's the PR7 variant of the VIT-2, not the PR5 variant.

[@gazztears2140]

​@@paulpreserves8310Im making this comment with new players in mind where they have lacks of ships to begin with. Ill assume you clear ch13 wiith barracuda with A+ tier ships such as enterprise or maybe retrofitted unicorn which in that case yes you can clear ch 13 with just barracuda.

[@gazztears2140]

@@miyano3116 Oh thank you ill make sure to ediit it

[@oscarfunez3806]

Me using SU-6 dive bomber for consistency because I'm crazy.

[@chrism.8177]

new jimmy upload, nice

[@jvxiv7318]

The Skypirate is worse than the Wyvern for Independence. But here is my opinion. The max number to craft for the Skypirate is 1 but thats just as a temporary replacement for Independence only. Apart from Independence, almost no other carrier would use it other than possibly Enterprise which would still have better damage with Wyvern overall. This might be coping but i only really use Skypirate for Independence as a temporary place holder since i dont have that much Wyverns. In most other cases, i mostly just use Barracudas. With how scarce the amount of electronics are, its only a temperary solution for Independence and maybe Enterprise. Am i saying it is good to craft, no. Only really a bandaid solution for Independence and Enterprise if you cant craft that much Wyverns. Its still higher than basically every other TB but still not close to the Wyvern. Thats just my opinion.

[@oscarfunez3806]

How do you unlock or find the new planes? Ive been looking nonstop and cant find them

[@AzurLaneNoob]

You will randomly collect the blueprints from doing PR7 research.

[@oscarfunez3806]

@AzurLaneNoob Kill me please.

[@Luden0906]

Any recommended ships for boss freeze? I don’t have implacable.

[@WadeWontson]

Ark Royal slows, AvP slows then freezes. If you have Bismarck Zwei then you may not need a freeze since she generates that black hole when she fires. Soyuz' barrage has a slow, and Agir's torps will slow enemies they hit. Worst case scenario, you can get Ark Royal's Swordfish from the shop but it's usually better to just use one of the options above.

[@persownage]

Can the swordfish Prok Admiral Nakhimov ability on her own? then put the snare solo?

[@drakron]

No because it says "other Northern Parliament Ship skill", they did this deliberate to prevent her to simply replace Hakk and Implacable at the same time. And her special airstrike and skill already inflicts a slow anyway. Besides its not as if Soyuz is bad and you want to run then together anyway due to Soyuz buffs to CVs and Northern Parliament ships, alternatively there is Chkalov FS5 that gives one of her skills a slow and Trashkent that despite her name is not a worst version of Kent that still is a very good DD gunboat and last ... Voroshilov, just listing her here. Swordfish would also be a bad choice simply you are using a poor plane to inflict a debuff when Nakhimov is already a very powerful carrier? Using bad stats equipment to trigger a effect should be when its a slot with poor efficiency so its not much of a tradeoff or the ship is just there to trigger the effect and no other reason, Enfeebled debuff only applies to Nakhimov own damage against it so you should see why sacrificing half of your torpedo planes damage potential for it wouldnt be a good idea. Nakhimov problem is the reliability of another Northern Parliament ship slow and their duration, even Trashkent fairy only lasts for 50 seconds and still need to hit enemies but that also pretty much how most slows are and why they made Enfeebled require so many conditions and not just give her a 40% extra critical damage.

[@persownage]

@@drakron was just thinking if its was possible to cheese the requirement [AND prok the snare + slow ALONE], I don't have a swordfish in my inventory so its was impossible to me to test in person ^^. But thank you for testing for me. would have been acceptable or at least interesting to prok a 2.5 sec immobilization by herself and no help at all.

[@drakron]

@@persownage That one isnt hard to get, its the Monthly Core ship costing 800, its the 818 Squadron, regular Swordfish squadrons dont have that ability. Also I typed all that because even if it worked you would be using a not very good plane to not really do anything since it would give the effect only lasts 8 seconds and the extra damage is only in relation to Nakhimov so unless you can somehow get her to airstrike under 8 seconds ... its simply not going to work. The question ends up if equipping then in Volga would work but now you trading a CV for another CV and is Volga better that Chkalov?They end up in different niches due to Chkalov being very much anti-ship (no fighters) and Volga being a healer ship ... I think due to everything Nakhimov best composition is her, Soyuz and Chkalov since Soyuz conditional buff is either 2 CVs or 2 BBs so you cannot say use Kearsarge that you also have no reason to since her Air Assistance requires another Eagle Union ship in the Main Fleet , Manjuu makes stuff that is either conditional to the point you are extremely limited or not such as Implacable slow doesnt have any conditions because when launch airstrike or Avora vanguard damage boost that have no conditions. If you want to say swap Chkalov for Volga that will still work since Soyuz is there for the slow and if you want to swap Soyuz for a full CV backline then Chkalov FS5 added a slow so still works, its only when you moving outside a Northern Parliament Main Fleet she loses her full potential but this is true for Kearsarge and many ships due to their conditional bonus and fleet compositions, the only question I have is if Nakhinov combo can really beat Shinano+Hakk combo, this is why I dont think we going to get Amagi II as a UR ship since a 3rd UR carrier for SE.fleet would either have to replace Hakk, Shinano or provide support skills on the same level as Nagato that would simply make it the best carrier fleet due to all the conditional buffs from Shinano.

[@Cinbri]

​@@drakronin before, in year or two when we get nakhimov FS, she won't need another NP snare 😅

[@MauveGun]

Waog

[@tamaglibatos565]

Do Anti Air Guns Next

[@samheart564]

why combine

[@JimmyAL]

thought it would only be as long as the fighter one

[@ltraltier6009]

I swear to god most of you level 120+ guys have to be bot farming. There's no way you just have over 500-1500 of each material just lying around at all times. The game is just that stingy around yellow rarity electronics and the yellow/rainbow ordinance papers are even moreso.

[@ProphetoftheMachines]

I wish there was less extreme powercreep of gear in this game. They make hundreds of items and then make them all worthless with a single broken overpowered braindead rainbow option that makes everything else borderline worthless. I'm dreading the day we get a rainbow converging torp bomber, it'll probably be as broken as the Tenrai or Wyvern. Oh well. I'm still going to "waste" plates upgrading faction gear for my faction fleets, because that's how I have fun in endgame.

[@lotharschramm5000]

They're not worthless because rainbow gear is expensive and rare you won't have it on every ship

[@MrSeanfish]

Waog