B-17 Flying Fortress : The Mighty 8th Redux | First Look!

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Taff in Exile

Taff in Exile

4 ай бұрын

Lets have a first look at the new B-17 The Mighty 8th Redux game which is due for early access release. Lets head up for a quick mission and have a look around the game.
Please be aware this footage is from an early development version which is constantly being updated and the release version will be a more advanced version.
The classic game remastered. Feel the power of flying a 10-men crew on a B-17 over occupied Europe in WWII. Plan the mission, choose your men and take action in every post onboard, from pilot to bombardier and machine gunners. Get ready for a high-flying adventure in this all-time classic remake
Steam - store.steampowered.com/app/20...
ABOUT THIS GAME
The missions undertaken by the crews of B-17 bombers during World War II are the stuff of legend. What was it like to fly through relentless anti-aircraft fire over Nazi-occupied Europe? What was it like to have a thin layer of steel between life and death at 15,000 feet? How did it feel to furiously fend off enemy fighters zipping around your plane and then to precisely deliver your payload over enemy targets?
Find out for yourself as you lead a 10-man crew to victory... or defeat... against squadrons of Nazi warplanes in the legendary B-17 Flying Fortress!
Redux
The same experience remastered with the original engine upgraded to support the functionality present in DX 12. Working on the redux will give us the opportunity to look back and learn in order to push forward with future Flying Fortress titles.
Features
Take Control of Different Crew Roles aboard a B-17
Historical Campaigns
Quick Start Missions
Training Missions
Historical Missions
Updated visuals and interface
An Early Access From the Inside Out
During the early access release the game will continue to be updated.
Currently you can look forward to seeing:
Updated B-17 Interiors
New Crew Models
Updated Interfaces, no more comic sans in the interface
Music in menus
Updated Front end menus
Updated Airfield interiors
Aspect Ratio upgrade from 4:3 to 16:9
In progress Terrain enhancements, including being able to see further into the distance making the navigator's job a little easier
Improvements to the original Mighty 8th engine that have resulted in smoother frame rates and better performance on modern machines
We are focused on continuing to improve the game as time goes on. The planned improvements include:
Updated B-17 Exteriors
Updated Fighter Exteriors
Improved player control options
New Missions
Improvements to training missions and tutorials to better onboard new players
A New game manual
Larger Aircraft Formations
And more

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@campbellgalloway1829
@campbellgalloway1829 4 ай бұрын
I purchased this game when it first came out back in the nighties and have at least 4000 hours on it and now at 62 years old I still love playing it out of all the flight Sims I have 😊
@mattjohnson7369
@mattjohnson7369 4 ай бұрын
Its an immersive experience. A lot of modern flight sims lack that despite the higher accuracy and fidelity.
@ARescueToaster
@ARescueToaster 4 ай бұрын
@@mattjohnson7369 Now if we could get a marriage of those two.. Hopefully the Bloody 100th will be a good step in that direction
@Whimpy13
@Whimpy13 4 ай бұрын
You do know you can timeskip? 😋 It took quite some time for me to find that out in the original Elite on the C64. I spent the time reading comics until you ran into pirats. ☺
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 4 ай бұрын
You wont have bought this game in the 1990s as it didnt come out until 2000 ;) I presume you are on about 'B17 Flying Fortress', the original B17 game. 'B17 Flying Fortress The Mighty Eighth', the game this remake is based on, was the sequel to B17.
@Vachalen
@Vachalen 4 ай бұрын
@@Debbiebabe69 Give the man a break he is 62, I'm 50 and I forget stuff that happened 30 yrs ago... sometimes.
@dtimm612
@dtimm612 3 ай бұрын
Just pulled my original copy out of storage, the manual is 152 pages long! Back when games had detailed instructions. And the large colored fold out reference card for each flyable plane was great. Even though it was supper buggy I still have fond memories playing this a lot back in the early 2000s
@josteingravvik2381
@josteingravvik2381 4 ай бұрын
I do like the improvements they have done, but I did honestly expect more... And, I noticed that there were still containerships in the port. Containerships weren't invented yet during WW2. Hopefully they have more improvements in the pipeline. Anyway, thanks for uploading this Taff !! Greets from Norway
@kellyshistory306
@kellyshistory306 4 ай бұрын
With any luck, early access means the other stuff is going to get improved. A road map would be nice, I dunno if they put one out or not however.
@josteingravvik2381
@josteingravvik2381 4 ай бұрын
@@kellyshistory306 Yeah, I don't know if there's a roadmap neighter. I think it might be too much wishfull thinking of us to expect a whole lot more while they are still working on the brand new game....
@mattjohnson7369
@mattjohnson7369 4 ай бұрын
@@josteingravvik2381 They haven't done much to the externals yet, that's due during EA. I would certainly let them know about container ships though during EA :).
@artao5
@artao5 4 ай бұрын
um .... Gotta ask ... What do you mean by "container ships?" EDIT: AH! I see. Nevermind then. Yeah. Quick eyes eh. :)
@josteingravvik2381
@josteingravvik2381 4 ай бұрын
@@artao5 Yeah, they were in the original game too. It doesn't Really bother me though, it's just a small observation ! :)
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 4 ай бұрын
The graphics are better, but I had expected more.
@oscodains
@oscodains 4 ай бұрын
‘B-17: The Bloody 100th’ may be the game you’re looking for - it’s the next game in the series & photorealistic.
@majorborngusfluunduch8694
@majorborngusfluunduch8694 4 ай бұрын
The game isn't done. Its going to get better during EA.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, so far they've done all the 2D graphics, but very little of the 3D graphics.
@Echo_4609
@Echo_4609 4 ай бұрын
Its early access and a redux, not a remaster or remake. The only goal is to update the textures and basic optimization of the game. Virtually nothing else will be changed
@AnAmericanDodo
@AnAmericanDodo 4 ай бұрын
I hope the 3d models would be improved. The engine cowlings and wheels really show the age of the models. A second hope is an improvement of the terrain textures. Volumetric clouds would also be desired. If those improve I'd expect the game to look good, not DCS good, but good enough to suspend disbelief.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 4 ай бұрын
I've never played this game, but the initial briefing format brought back lots of childhood memories of F117A Stealth Fighter, which used exactly the same format only with slightly more modern furniture.
@AndiKoehn
@AndiKoehn 4 ай бұрын
Good ol times when games came in a card box with full documentation, charts and stuff. 😊 Good memories. This still needs a lot of work to give me some itches again. Those textures man... Holy sh... 😅
@kerry1215
@kerry1215 4 ай бұрын
I am hoping they update the models as well as the terrain/targets prior to release.
@neptunenavalmods4420
@neptunenavalmods4420 4 ай бұрын
They are also working on a 100% new B-17 game with modern graphics; I heard it will also have Lancasters and B-24s
@cowboy10uk
@cowboy10uk 4 ай бұрын
They will be updated after the early release on Friday. ( might be coming out Thurs can’t remember )
@thencrranger5628
@thencrranger5628 4 ай бұрын
​@@cowboy10ukaccording to steam, it's going to come out in 8 hours from now.
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
Loads of things still in development..watch this space :-p
@beedalton9675
@beedalton9675 4 ай бұрын
​@@TaffinExile is this one still avaliable to download?? It was supposed to be released today
@mekowgli
@mekowgli 4 ай бұрын
What I would like more than anything from Microprose is a remake of 1942 "Pacific Air War" with modern graphics. Hands down my favorite sim of all times.
@darrensmith9356
@darrensmith9356 4 ай бұрын
I tried to like that but struggled. Still, I persevered with it far more than 1944 - Across the Rhine. That game was obtusely difficult to get into and dare I say it, too much for the PC hardware of the era to cope with. However, if they are ‘reduxing’ a lot of their back catalogue - I cannot wait for M1 Tank Platoon to make an appearance. One of my all time favourite pseudo-simulations.
@ernest9727
@ernest9727 3 ай бұрын
First thing I thought when I saw this video in my suggestions.
@stevweidlich
@stevweidlich 2 ай бұрын
Or Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe - which was my favorite game around that era.
@armatian
@armatian 4 ай бұрын
This game had a mind blowing damage model, everytime you saw Microprose on the screen you were in for a massive experience. Such times, i dont like seeing how dated it is now frankly, in my memory it was cinematic.
@DenKHK
@DenKHK 4 ай бұрын
I know how you feel! I used to play Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe in the early 90s and clearly remembered being awed by the graphics. So recently I looked up a replay of it and was aghast at what it looks like by today's standards... but one thing I still miss is the level of immersion, the career/campaigns of the older games. Like this one - flying through flak in this game somehow felt more immersive than even modern games like Il2. Good video and narration, very enjoyable especially with the dry humour~ :) Perhaps if TG actually downed an enemy fighter he'd get a Medal of Honor!
@AdrenalineJunky17
@AdrenalineJunky17 4 ай бұрын
I used to play this game when I was a kid. I remember planning so many different bombing missions and letting them play all day long.
@SOLDADITO76
@SOLDADITO76 4 ай бұрын
Decent progress so far, definitely looking forward to updates as the MicroProse team continues to shine up this classic.
@Joe93819
@Joe93819 4 ай бұрын
I remember seeing screenshots 4 years ago for the redux version and finally the wait is over! Only took 4 long years and a lot of doubt
@keithmchugh5403
@keithmchugh5403 4 ай бұрын
I wish they did this for European air war as well. I believe that was a Microprose game as well. I have been playing WW2 flight sims for 20 years and that was the best out of all of them by far.
@Pakal77
@Pakal77 4 ай бұрын
I agree.
@blodiblodmann9207
@blodiblodmann9207 4 ай бұрын
You played the Il 2 series? EAW was good in it's time, but Il 2 was a huge step ahead.
@keithmchugh5403
@keithmchugh5403 4 ай бұрын
@@blodiblodmann9207 yes absolutely and those are definitely great! In my opinion I just think EAW was the best of them all but IL2 is amazing
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever 4 ай бұрын
@@keithmchugh5403 If you ask me i would say Battle of Britain: Their finest hour and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe from LucasArts where the best. Reason: They offered a great campaign mode.
@pxdave7488
@pxdave7488 4 ай бұрын
IL2 was a huge step ahead, but EAW always was my favorite. Something about the massive feel of the air battles never felt as well done after EAW to me
@Nangleator22
@Nangleator22 4 ай бұрын
Exciting to have this old entertainment come back fresh for us!
@ecsdastro8236
@ecsdastro8236 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see Microprose is back in the game again. They were one of the top tier studios back in the day then seemed to just vanish. Would be nice of Janes started producing sims again but really we have DCS for that
@nickjoy8868
@nickjoy8868 4 ай бұрын
Up to the plane shots, graphics looked greatly improved. But then straight back to the hexagonal tyres! Look forward to seeing you play a campaign on this redux version Taff.
@Vipre-
@Vipre- 4 ай бұрын
Yeah they mentioned they haven't gotten to that yet as most of the focus went into the interiors. Doesn't look like they got to the terrain map either which is a big reason I don't play the original much.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video, Taff! Hope you are well! Im excited to see this game continue to develop and make those small adjustments to give it more playability with todays gaming systems. ❤
@TOTAL457
@TOTAL457 4 ай бұрын
I remember this game. 40 years ago I played it on my ATARI STE. It had only 1Mb of RAM. This brings nice memories. I was so hooked to this game.
@AudioJellyfish
@AudioJellyfish 3 ай бұрын
It's a different game. it's the one that came out in 2000.
@KingJamesBibleBeliever227
@KingJamesBibleBeliever227 4 ай бұрын
Calm down airmen, still got 24 missions to go before discharge.
@thatguy7085
@thatguy7085 4 ай бұрын
The 25 missions was not true. My father did 35.
@theradgegadgie6352
@theradgegadgie6352 4 ай бұрын
​@@thatguy7085Depends on what year it was.
@theradgegadgie6352
@theradgegadgie6352 4 ай бұрын
You didn't get discharged, you just got leave and reassignment.
@JonRattlehead
@JonRattlehead 4 ай бұрын
As someone who didn't get to play the original back in the day, I'm very excited about this.
@DrydockDreamsGames
@DrydockDreamsGames 4 ай бұрын
Ouch, losing Memphis Belle on the first mission. Now there's a spot open for eternal glory for ChowHound, so it seems!
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 4 ай бұрын
For those wondering, this was NOT 'the first B17 game'. 'B17 Flying Fortress', released in the 90s, was the first one. 'B17 Flying Fortress The Mighty Eighth'', the game this remake is based on, was the sequel to B17. The game was notorious because it was VERY hard to run, you had to have a really high spec for the time PC, in an era when graphics cars were just starting to come mainstream and CD drives and sound cards were still optional extras
@damos8406
@damos8406 3 ай бұрын
I had B-17 Flying fortress on my Intellivision (with the Intellivoice module) in the mid 80's, pretty sure it released in '82.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 ай бұрын
@@damos8406 no, that was B17 Bomber, a completely different game to the Microprose series.
@3mate1
@3mate1 4 ай бұрын
I remember playing that on the 486, I loved the cut away view of the B-17
@vrdrivesolutions3695
@vrdrivesolutions3695 4 ай бұрын
Looks great, looking forward to see how the development goes!
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A 4 ай бұрын
This looks so promising, it obviously needs a bit of work but it's looking great so far.
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
Yeah its a good first step and there are some big improvements planned for future deveopement steps
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A 4 ай бұрын
@@TaffinExile can't wait.....
@michaelbourgeault9409
@michaelbourgeault9409 4 ай бұрын
Modernized graphics and resolution - check; mouse compatibility - check. Expectations met, everything delivered after this is bonus :)
@cyberfutur5000
@cyberfutur5000 4 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Last thing I hope for is that the controller bindings work better. (maybe it was just a problem with my set up, but I just couldn't bind some functions to anything but a key board.) But yes, if it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, I couldn't be more happy.
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
And there is alot more to come :-)
@namedropper9237
@namedropper9237 4 ай бұрын
I would like people to note today a dev log just came out that includes the updated exterior bomber model, the roadmap, and the pricing model.
@prichardgs
@prichardgs 4 ай бұрын
WHAT!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!! Thanks for posting this!
@MrLimboTime
@MrLimboTime 4 ай бұрын
The fact that ill be able to finish "limping home" now that im old enough to grasp the mechanics of this game is enough for me to enjoy this game to its peak. Bomber crew eat your heart out.
@wavehopper4183
@wavehopper4183 4 ай бұрын
Oooo, perfect person to play it first. Cheers Taff.
@ironicallyeuropeanunironic2952
@ironicallyeuropeanunironic2952 4 ай бұрын
Let's hope this is really "early access", and they don't intend to present this as a real redux
@beaverdam1199
@beaverdam1199 4 ай бұрын
Hooray love this! Amazing to see the redux is almost here! and hopefully will be an awesom rebot of the game!
@user-ny3gs6wt5p
@user-ny3gs6wt5p 3 ай бұрын
This is a game I remember playing a really long time ago. I played this game for a while and then stopped because the gunners on the other bombers didn't fire back at all.
@fixfalcon2628
@fixfalcon2628 3 ай бұрын
I played this game when I was a teenager in the 90s. I used to do dumb things like force the tail-gunner to be the pilot, or the ball-turret gunner to be the navigator. It was fun watching them struggle, lol.
@cheemy1000
@cheemy1000 4 ай бұрын
This a game that is screaming out for a complete modern overhaul. I loved this game in the 90's. A rewrite from the ground up with updated GFX to rival the visuals of DCS or MS Flight Sim. Yes please
@ebhayhurst
@ebhayhurst 4 ай бұрын
Mouse control turret was exactly what i was hoping for.
@brettpeacock9116
@brettpeacock9116 4 ай бұрын
Gonna have to try this one.... One Sim I would love to see a Redux of is a old (mid to late 90s) Sim called "Overlord", which was a campaign from Feb of 44 thru to July 44, concentrating on Gaining Air Dominance over Northern France You could fly a Spitfire IX, a P-51B, A Hawker Typhoon or a Mosquito in a wide variety of Missions, Train intercepts, Anti V1 missions, CAP and bomber escort, anti- ship and anti-armour as well as others.... One great feature was a single press vision lock on a Flying enemy (Bf 109G, Fw 190A or D, Junkers 88.) Basically your pov locked onto the enemy plane and you had to drag your gunfight into FOV to shoot it diwn. Worked a treat once you understood the physics and purpose....
@Chironseth1970
@Chironseth1970 2 ай бұрын
Loved this game back in the day but my two faves from Microprose were Gunship and M1A1 they were both fantastic to play
@Batalia122
@Batalia122 2 ай бұрын
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe was also an excellent game for the time. Released in 1991, I still remember owning the mouse pad along with Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis.
@timjerrom7173
@timjerrom7173 4 ай бұрын
Am super excited for this! Hopefully crews don't get injured so much like they did in the last one, as my B-17 made it through 25 missions but with not a single original crew member as they were all were off recovering in hospital. Now the original "first B-17 game" was fantastic and hopefully this one will be too.
@scott1711
@scott1711 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Game bring backs some good memories. Glad to see it still popular. I'm hopeful they eventually add support for the ultra wide monitors too.
@Zatracenec
@Zatracenec 4 ай бұрын
Man, I miss this more adventure like menus from flight simulators. I loved it. Nice video.
@wowdanalise
@wowdanalise 4 ай бұрын
I played this game back in 2000. I was 7!
@HarmanMotorWorks
@HarmanMotorWorks 4 ай бұрын
This brings back memories big time. Looks like the biggest improvements so far are inside the aircraft with the interior modelling. I wonder if they will finally let us look left and right from the waist gun positions...lol. Hopefully the updated exterior will mean the terrible pilot cabin windows LOD change when zooming out slightly will be a thing of the past. Looking forward to this one
@twoHRdrive
@twoHRdrive 4 ай бұрын
I can't wait to play this. I loved the original, but lost the disc sooo many years ago.
@modelrailwaynoob
@modelrailwaynoob 4 ай бұрын
I played all the Microprose titles. I ran a flight sim BBS (before the internet existed) and a magazine. I went to their offices and they gave me all the demos for my BBS and early images for the mag.
@marcuspearson87
@marcuspearson87 2 күн бұрын
I bought this game when it first came out years ago, I loved it then. I am really looking forward to an up-to-date version of this game.
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK 4 ай бұрын
I loved this game on the Amiga. I grew up and spent most of my life only a few Miles from Ridgewell. They have a pretty good museum between Ridgewell and Great Yeldham dedicated to the USAF base.
@MrJC1
@MrJC1 2 ай бұрын
think you are talking about the 90s game. not this one.
@baileys_battles
@baileys_battles 4 ай бұрын
Wish it was on Mac as well, looks great!
@05Hogsrule
@05Hogsrule 4 ай бұрын
I AM SO (!!!) Glad they are re-building this game!!! I would like to also see the strategic and historical strategy game called USAAF. Remember that???
@sais9221
@sais9221 4 ай бұрын
Omg! I still have the disc for this game and its manual. I played it once and never went back because I didn't feel like learning how to play it. I liked the gunner action btw.
@LeeJPryer
@LeeJPryer Ай бұрын
Used to play the Amiga version back in the early 80's it was one of my favorite games
@thejetfighter
@thejetfighter 4 ай бұрын
I remember this game from years ago. It looks good, obviously I could be improved in development. Nice video 😀
@TheNovum
@TheNovum 4 ай бұрын
Need to get this. So exciting.
@pakrej
@pakrej 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I remember playing this game more than 20 years ago. But then came Il-2 Stumovick.
@AirForceAnecdotes
@AirForceAnecdotes 4 ай бұрын
Coooool! This was such a great game back in the 90s!
@JGE_DK
@JGE_DK 4 ай бұрын
I have MANY fond childhood memories, playing pretty much every one of the great MicroProse simulators / games : B-17 Flying Fortress (ofcourse ;) ), F--19 Stealth Fighter, F-15 Strike Eagle, Gunship, Project Stealth Fighter, Red Storm Rising, Silent Service, M1 Tank Platoon... I could go ON!!! And thinking back, those were actually some of the most "advanced" simulations / games that were available, back in the late 1980's. By todays standards, they may seem pretty "primitive", yes. But DAMN, MicroProse made some pretty immersive games, for the time!! ;) No doubt, that this will be a DAY 1 purchase for me (for nostalgias sake).
@pollock56th
@pollock56th 4 ай бұрын
Masters of the Air is going to springboard interest in this genre again! I bet all the R&D is on the VR version.😅
@user-ec8zd8zp4x
@user-ec8zd8zp4x 2 ай бұрын
Man, I played this a lot on my Amiga back in the day! Lovely seeing it again. Would love to see a Knights of the Sky redux. It's my favourite Microprose sim game! Fun fact: it was the first game I ever installed on a HDD, the HDD of my Amiga 600.
@brianscheil3075
@brianscheil3075 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video ;-)
@andrewmontgomery5621
@andrewmontgomery5621 4 ай бұрын
Right on time for Masters of the Air.
@larrydee8859
@larrydee8859 4 ай бұрын
That was a great original game! I'm glad they are re releasing it, however I would love to be able to be a German fighter pilot as well, opposing the B-17s. It would really be great if they upgraded and brought back, "European air War". The radio traffic in that game was very realistic also.
@jindetwizol1399
@jindetwizol1399 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they didn't improve the exterior textures... Inside looks really great, outside looks really shitty, I know the game have many textures for damage but that's the point of a remaster. Thanks for the video. Edit: it's early access I forgot about that but they making The Bloody 100th too, if it's the same gameplay Microprose is f*cking with their fans...
@cowboy10uk
@cowboy10uk 4 ай бұрын
Well for one graphics isn’t everything, the gameplay and crew management is the important part here as well as aircraft internals. That said, they ARE updating the external textures later on in the early access progress, that was already confirmed. I guess they knew this was highly anticipated and Microprose felt as it was in a playable condition it was worth allowing us access now. Personally I think it’s a great shout and is everything I was wanting for the redux. I just hope we can still mod the nose art.
@cyberfutur5000
@cyberfutur5000 4 ай бұрын
@@cowboy10uk I am pretty sure they said it'll have proper mod support, later on. Probably more than just nose art.
@jindetwizol1399
@jindetwizol1399 4 ай бұрын
@@cowboy10uk Graphics isn't everything but this is the point of this remaster : modern graphics and controls. Okay I hope your right, thanks for the infos.
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
The exterier models will be updated in the future, the EA will be constantly developed 🙂
@Autofire-nw5ty
@Autofire-nw5ty 4 ай бұрын
It’s very early work, just my opinion but if they focused on the interior and it looks pretty good then they will do the same with the exterior before release. I’m happy Taff has access to this and I’m excited to see the end product (and plenty of videos)
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
Yes for the Full release 🙂
@LeShark75
@LeShark75 4 ай бұрын
Used to play the original game on the Amiga 500 with my Father. Good times.
@ChoppyChof
@ChoppyChof 2 ай бұрын
I had my first driving lesson on part of Ridgewell airfield. Wish it was in a B17!
@johntowle
@johntowle 3 ай бұрын
The sound of the turret motor whirring when they turn is this realistic as I don't hear this in the Masters of The Air mini series
@kellyshistory306
@kellyshistory306 4 ай бұрын
The rear gun-sight being off centre is kind accurate in a round about way. The sight was linked to the two guns through a series of wires and pullies, and this system would develop slack over time so eventually the sights and gun didn't line up. It probably didn't get this bad, but the Operational Research Reports by the 8th Air Force found the tail position to be by far the worst gun position on the B-17 in terms of accuracy, to the point it was probably useless except at point blank range. That was however more the fault of the twin .50 cals rarely firing in unison, so each gun going off individually caused the guns to swing left and right constantly, with only the gunner sitting in an awkward position trying to hold the guns on target.
@cyberfutur5000
@cyberfutur5000 4 ай бұрын
Well isn`t that just what you want to hear before going of on a mission? I can't stress enough how much I respect those lads.
@kellyshistory306
@kellyshistory306 4 ай бұрын
@@cyberfutur5000 To be honest the entirety of the US equipment set for shooting down German fighter was pretty much useless for purpose, that is why the self-defending bomber concept went down in flames in 1943. The tail position was horrible, but on all gun positions (other than the Ball and Top turret) the gun sights were totally unsuited for air combat. A waist gunner for example could not actually use his sights to defend another US bomber under attack, so the whole idea of bombers mutually supporting each-other with their guns was almost impossible. The gun sights were only useful for self defense against a fighter attacking the aircraft the gunner was on. Only the compensating sights on the Top and Ball turret, which automatically calculated deflection so long as the gunner inputted the wingspan and distance of the German fighter correctly, had any chance. IMO the top and ball turret was probably responsible for the majority of German fighters shot down by US gunners during WWII, as they were the only ones that had the sights that really gave them a chance. Yeah brave guys in the US bombers, but unfortunately they never really had a chance until fighter escorts arrived. Too much of the American gunnery side of things was flawed (equipment) or not well thought out until later in the war (gunner training). It just wasn't really well appreciated during the war because the gunners submitted wildly inflated claims for how many fighters they were shooting down, and the USAAF leadership believed them for the most part. Eaker writes to Spaatz or Happ Arnold about US bombers shooting down 6 German fighters for every loss, which is what the claims were telling him, but the reality was 1-2 US bombers were falling for every German fighter until Escorts showed up.
@RandomStuff-he7lu
@RandomStuff-he7lu 4 ай бұрын
@@cyberfutur5000 To be fair tail gunners didn't have to put up with it for long.
@goldleader6074
@goldleader6074 4 ай бұрын
@@kellyshistory306 The tail gunner had the best opportunities to shoot down enemy fighters compared to all the other gunner positions, regardless of what gun sights were used. The other positions had to deal with firing into the slipstream and a constantly changing target aspect whereas the tail gunner position usually had a fighter approaching from a more predictable attack angle with minimal aspect changes that required less adjustments for leading the target. The top scoring USAAF gunner was a B-17 tail gunner, Michael Arooth, credited with aircraft 19 kills.
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
I didnt know this, I'm not sure that level of accuracy is what the dev team were going for with this 🙂
@geminicricket4975
@geminicricket4975 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this. Some years ago, I was able to update the planes to look like 401st 17s. I have a bias for that group. ;) I'm hoping I can still do that with this version.
@joeaustin4472
@joeaustin4472 4 ай бұрын
Great episode taff, can certainly see a difference in the remastered version.. and the principles are the very same, plan out and combat is as gripping as the original, there is some very good differences but there's not really that much difference external wise, gunshots, AAA, aircraft model set outs, tracers and even explosions. Maybe there's more updates to come as we go along.. probably not the case but it's nice to think that way.. if so then I was proven wrong. Very nostalgic to the original, nice operational flight. Thanks taff, very entertaining 👍
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
The main focus I beleive has been on internals and moderising the code for current hardware, the externals will be coming 🙂
@joeaustin4472
@joeaustin4472 4 ай бұрын
@@TaffinExile Oh is it? Oh right.. Well that's something I just learned, well best look forward to the rest of the updates. Early days indeed, but all the same THANKS so much for posting B17 on the channel, your B17 content is magnificent, the original series or.. TOS 😉, was utterly fantastic, so the new stuff will make a truly incredible series when all is released, thanks so much for that wonderful reply also. Really.. thanks a lot 👍
@alstalbs2265
@alstalbs2265 2 ай бұрын
Very much looking forward to seeing B-17 Flying Fortress The Bloody 100th. I'm far too old to play games now, my brain can't cope with all the controls :)) but still can't wait to see youtube/twitch gameplay
@Daimo83
@Daimo83 2 ай бұрын
"We got a substantial bit of residential housing" 10/10 realism
@WilcoGroothand
@WilcoGroothand 4 ай бұрын
Very nice looking. Crisp.
@rzr2ffe325
@rzr2ffe325 4 ай бұрын
Perfectly timed with Masters of The Air Lol
@graemepennell
@graemepennell 2 ай бұрын
Was awesome when it first appeared.
@cyberfutur5000
@cyberfutur5000 4 ай бұрын
Not bad. Especially for a pre release build to an early access title. I'm just happy that in a few days I can play this game with less crashes and frustrating bugs (or at least in a few months, when it's fully finished) As long it runs stable and the controller bindings are working better, than in the old game (sometimes bindings just didn't work, like switching from manual to auto mode), every thing else is a bonus and the fancy graphics and new features will come with the full sequel, so chill people :) For the off chance the devs (or modders) read this, one QOL thing I'd love to see, would be a small indicator in the recon film, showing where north is, I'm pretty sure this info wouldn't be unrealistic to have, it's simple to implement (I would guess) and would help tremendously when planning the run or finding the target.
@iandobbins3775
@iandobbins3775 4 ай бұрын
Micro Prose was a company always ahead of its time, I played the original back in the day, and the other one they made "European Air War," which was the best flight sim back then. Hope they do a redux of EAW too, I still play both of these originals, and they're as fun now as they were back then .
@845SiM
@845SiM 4 ай бұрын
So, guess i am waiting for bloody 100th. Lord knows whats happening with that!
@FarmerFred84
@FarmerFred84 2 ай бұрын
Still got my original flight manual on the shelf here. When I first got the original my pc couldnt play it, so laggy, needed to upgrade!
@BrownEyePinch
@BrownEyePinch 4 ай бұрын
Loved this game
@PCPAyLOAD
@PCPAyLOAD 4 ай бұрын
I remember buying this game way back in the day! It's really cool that it's getting a second life. Great vid. Are they going to update the environments with current gen graphics too?
@barrywalker8790
@barrywalker8790 4 ай бұрын
Great game and it's nice to see it being brought up to date it would be nice if they could put an option for an Olive Drab scheme loved this game when it came out now at 66 years old l get to buy and play it again thanks for the update 👌
@Shifty008
@Shifty008 4 ай бұрын
OMG the graphics remember me Brother in Arms in 2005 lol...
@verdaderamentecontundenteh2917
@verdaderamentecontundenteh2917 2 ай бұрын
Uno de los mejores juegos de mi infancia!
@Whimpy13
@Whimpy13 4 ай бұрын
You can move the map markers once you're airborne so you can line up better on the target, and avoid dangerzones.
@cmsxcb
@cmsxcb 4 ай бұрын
The old crew pics just made the USAAF look deranged. It was like they shook the nearest tree and made whatever fell out a Sergeant.
@hans_pixel-me5mx
@hans_pixel-me5mx 4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!
@karlschultz4138
@karlschultz4138 4 ай бұрын
Would you be able to do a video on how you set your controls up?
@Rhinozherous
@Rhinozherous 4 ай бұрын
Wow, the externals are not finished yet I hope xD I will wait for the new part - The Bloody 100th
@chris101gray3
@chris101gray3 4 ай бұрын
Honestly IL-2 1946 is the definitive game representing this era, and that can be had for as little as $1 at goodwill stores
@thecluckingassassin
@thecluckingassassin 3 ай бұрын
IL-2 is a flight simulator though this is different
@stratcat3216
@stratcat3216 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward the VR version. No date yet announced tho.
@lozinja
@lozinja 4 ай бұрын
I have a hazy memory of reading a review of this game back when I had my Amiga in a magazine like Zero. I think it was a reader submitted review and they detailed how you could cross bodies of water at 0 altitude like a lame big duck and it made me laugh.
@jonhayes9223
@jonhayes9223 3 ай бұрын
This would be great in VR
@fenthedog
@fenthedog 4 ай бұрын
The updated graphics are wonderful! I know the devs are focused on the internals and player screens, but they are going to update the plane exteriors at some point. Hopefully the ground textures too? Could you imagine this with a Google Maps import, LOL Personally I'd prefer a Lancaster to fly. Around the time this was originally out, there was a team working on a design along similar lines for Lancaster's called Target for Tonight, but it kinda faded into oblivion.
@normannobrot
@normannobrot 4 ай бұрын
how are you moving the bomb sight? it seems like its locked via a joystick... thought it was going to be mouose?
@alexandrelamarche42
@alexandrelamarche42 4 ай бұрын
Mouse control Gun!? SOLD
@jakeporter6523
@jakeporter6523 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I loved this game when I was a kid, it would be amazing if they could integrate some sort of multiplayer, can you imagine, running missions with your friends. Kind of like Star Trek Bridge Crew.
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A 4 ай бұрын
Hi Taff, can you change the angle of approach so you run along the line of the target instead of across the target??
@TaffinExile
@TaffinExile 4 ай бұрын
Yes I could have in the Navigator screen enroute, but hindsight is a wonderful thing
@RBCharger
@RBCharger 4 ай бұрын
Did you turn the music down? I always enjoyed when you came to the debriefing room and you got a sense of how the mission went by the tone of the music.
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 3 ай бұрын
Graphics are abysmal and that’s why I love it ……..enjoying the series on Apple TV. Brave men
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