B&W Film w/ Red Filter Comparison

[@SilntObsvr]

I'll disagree on one thing: red filters are *often* used in portraiture (with suitable makeup), because they *de-emphasize* the red color of skin imperfections like rash, freckles (red-brown) and pimples. Some subjects object to green lipstick, however, and the red filter will make lips very pale... Otherwise, most of what you saw as "not needing a full three stops" was due to the color of the light that late in the day. If you'd been using orthocrhomatic film (not with a red filter, obviously) you'd have had to give it a full stop, perhaps even more, beyond "normal" exposure due to the color of the light. I've only recently started using filters -- I now use a yellow filter quite a bit on my Kiev 4 (conveniently, all three lenses I have for it use the same diameter) and I recently used a red on my RB67 (which also uses the same filter diameter for both lenses) with an effect I liked.

[@KodakBoy]

Came here for my daily dose of Baxter but instead I got a very informative and detailed video about red filters. Thanks!

[@fgsz291]

Oh you like Solo: *A Star Wars Story* ? That explains a lot

[@arvinchau1030]

I recommend using red filters with bw films which can record near infrared wavelength, including foma 100, agfa apx 100, rollei 80s & super pan 200, definitely Ilford spx 200 and rollei infrared film (I even use 720nm infrared filter for these two). Hp5 is just not so sensitive to red wavelength.

[@matsukotokainn]

AE1 meter the light through the lens (TTL) so when you put the filter on i think you don't need to add extra 3 stops to adjust the exposure? i'm not professional but you red filter pics looks all over exposed a bit.

[@RickMahoney2013]

At 66 years old I watch way too much UTube but one comment I seem to make a lot is don’t lose your sense of humor and I truly mean it in your case. You humor to you video keep me intrigued and I even learned something since I am starting to shoot B& W film. Keep up the great work.

[@andrewthecool1]

5:39 more like you're revolving as a photographer, because, you know, you walked around the pool for this shot

[@grainydaysss]

Damn thats good

[@andrewthecool1]

@@grainydaysss lmao thanks man

[@nostalgiccameralife]

If you have TTL metering, it will automatically compensate for exposure. You don't need to change any settings.

[@Olafurkiljan]

I really like the shot of the pool 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@KodakBoy]

Awesome editing with the sliding comparison of the shots, very smooth with the text moving along with the slide Can’t wrap my head on how you did that My mind is blown

[@kleanish]

Yeah noticed that as well. Great editing. Jason will you edit my pubes?

[@pushingfilm]

Your part of the world looks nice, it reminds me of the adventures of T800 and John Connor

[@Voltarion_WWa]

I am amazed how little difference the red filter does. When I was shooting with red or orange filter, I got almost black sky, bit overdramatic. It may have somthing to do with shooting close to noon, when sky was much moire staurated.

[@AsteroidsFlight]

What lens and lenshood are you using in this one? :)

[@wb3ck805]

I think I like the shots without the filter more.

[@labradorhund7769]

me too

[@mikejankowski6321]

As for the red brick buildings, I agree. Darker is better there.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

Way more shadow and highlight detail in the red one. The normal one looks like you have the wrong ISO.

[@painovoimaton]

Many of the shots weren't good ones to use a red filter on to begin with. Filters are situational. Sometimes you use a red, sometimes an orange, sometimes a green. The only universal one which you could have on all the time is a yellow filter.

[@jimmason8502]

Generally the darker the filter the more contrast. A yellow filter is pretty much on my camera all the time when shooting B&W and on really sunny days I switch to red filter. I never use orange, basically it's in between a yellow and a red (duh) so you might as well use yellow or red. Yellow = 1 stop, orange 2 stops and red 3 stops.

[@AManWhoWasntThere]

Actually, I think the red filter will work well with rashes and other blemishes because it will make the usually dark red spots brighter and closer to the skin tone. Therefore they will be less visible. I always use a yellow/orange or red filter in lightroom on portraits when converting to black and white. Makes the skin look smoother while still leaving the natural texture.

[@SuperiFox]

Blue filters/orthochromatic film brings out blemishes

[@SHREYASNIRANJAN]

A great video as usual. I think the image comparison was done first and then the B roll added to make this video. Can we expect another video on yellow filter?

[@joncaradies3155]

In looking at the A/B comparisons , it seemed like all of the shots with a red filter had no true blacks . This isn't a function of the red filter but of exposure . Anyway , pretty much all a red filter is used for is to make the sky more dramatic ....

[@onemorechris]

i once claimed my cv/resume (with no extra detail) that i was, in fact, a wizard. No one ever asked about it 🤷‍♂️. enjoying the videos ☺️

[@RickMahoney2013]

I like your style and sense of humor. I would like to see more like this using other colored filters.

[@technol-bismol3778]

“Pure air, water, cocaine”😂 Excellent video Jason❤️

[@Redfox_UK]

Just invested in a red filter for my film camera (Minolta X-300), along with some HP5+ I’ll be testing it out after watching your video. After seeing the results, I think I preferred the darker original shots as that’s the look I’m going for. Great video btw and I’ve now subscribed. 👌🏻

[@riooooooooooooooooooo]

wow this has been the most informative video I've seen in awhile lakdjsf and GOSH YOUR COMMENTARY IS SO FUNNY pls don't stop

[@iChoc3000]

Which tripod do you use? (at 4:51 )

[@anomalousresult]

It's an Arca Swiss C1 head. The legs look like gitzo.

[@aldenjames5611]

The most expensive setup possible

[@iChoc3000]

@@aldenjames5611 I know 😂😭

[@mjcaparbi]

should do a video on what starter filters to get and what types are best.. or just clone baxter. either is acceptable

[@buskman3286]

The best use of a red filter, IMO, is to make skies with clouds more dramatic. I use it extensively for that purpose but don't use it for anything else. If there is no sky WITH clouds in the shot, I don't use a red filter.

[@infernalcapricorn]

I am going to watch this after I watch this documentary on John Wayne Gacy.

[@KptnHaddock_]

Let us know how it went. I‘m planning something similar with „I‘ll be gone in the dark“ and a Willem Verbeeck Video tomorrow...

[@distagon6052]

So glad to see you mention three stops. To me that is max contrast when two stops is more subtle. Fun vid.

[@bigshooter461]

I think adding 3 stops compensates a lot for the areas that are darkend by the filter allowing those that aren't, to actually get closer to over exposing, like the lemons, the flowers,etc, a few of these shots seem to maintain overall exposure which realistically is what most would aim for, I tend to like colour filters for added contrast or more controll of possitive and negative space. I feel like adding exposure still maintains the shift in tones tones but it seems to reduce the darkening effect if you completely compensate. I think bracketing these exposures to see if somewhere midway might be nice and if just toning it down by metering without the filter then adding it might be interesting. I'm curious if the filter requires 3 stops compensation if you couldn't just push it is developing to see what kind of dramatic effect it would have, I respect subject and compensation have more to do with consideration for use of processes that jave drastic influences on contrast and grain but it just makes me curious what the effect would look like. Great video by the way, sorry to see it so late.

[@Jane-ru6np]

Not only educational but delightfully dry delivery - love it. Thank you.

[@mooninc.185]

Dont use cyan filters or othochromatic film for female portraits They will slap you Great for male portraits though👍 Orthochromatic film darkens caucasian skin and makes scars, blemishes, acne appear as dark marks on the face Great if you wanna look weathered and rugged Not so good for beauty shots😅

[@Svynya_dzhakuzi]

hey, can you send an example of this?

[@mooninc.185]

Гусь : look up Ortho plus portraits on images Ortho plus is an ilford orthochromatic film

[@jamiehoy3616]

this is a big assumption to make about women....misogynistic much?

[@mooninc.185]

Jamie Hoy its not a hard rule. Of course you can use it. In fact I like the look orthochromatic film on female portraiture. Its just most modern women prefer to look smooth and light over scarred and rough. Misogyny is a profound hatred of women I don’t see how a this meets that definition. Nor is it that big an assumption. Its the same as assuming men want to look muscular and strong. Or course some men don’t.

[@dovydasgrigas441]

@@jamiehoy3616 In general men want to look more tough and rugged while women dont. Obviously differs from person to person but those are the societal norms most of us are taught growing up.

[@matthewthomas954]

Rocking the portra400 box tab in the cam while shooting black and white... Mood

[@Rielcool]

Throwing off film photographers everywhere with the red filter and "Portra 400" label in the slot on the back. Gonna get some sick red tonezz

[@iNerdier]

More accurate way to judge your filter compensation is to use your light meter through it and see what the actual change is in sunlight, which is a pretty broad spectrum illuminance.

[@joeltunnah]

Or you could look at it as the filter’s job is to *darken* parts of your image... so why would we try to compensate for that? You’ll end up with exactly what he got: overexposed reds oranges and yellows.

[@EvilClapTrap]

@@joeltunnah Lmao these people are so funny. Its like they assume overexposing is what makes a film photo, I can't watch this shit.

[@RogerBarraud]

Wondering why you didn't take the first shots with the filter *on*, then take it off for the second... ..it's easier and quicker to take it off, as you don't have to align it... ...and it takes the time-to-take-the-filter-outta-the-packet out of the time difference.

[@martinhamburger7509]

I was going to ask if you could do a video on lens hoods and tripods?

[@MikePanic]

I’ve almost only ever used red filters with b&w film on landscape photos during those delightful Simpson’s puffy cloud days

[@nick4506]

white leds are just 2 colors that averige out to white. witch 2 depends on the led. could have one with no red or half of all the light comeing out be red, to your eye it dosent matter but to the camera it does.

[@LukasGevaert]

How did you make your 2D picture 3D, like a dolly in? at 10:19

[@haakon.borgen]

Great video! Please do a video on yellow filter to!

[@HaakonOdinsson]

Yes! I use a yellow 12 and does a great job on most things. I also use a red 25 and a red 29 filters and they are great also😊

[@joeltunnah]

I agree about the “filter compensation” issue. To me it looks like all the red/orange/yellow things in your photos are 2-3 stops overexposed. It’s not a good look to my eyes. I shoot b&w with a yellow filter which Hoya recommend 1 stop adjustment. Sure enough, all my shots looked 1 stop overexposed. I now ignore all filter compensation suggestions.

[@mikejankowski6321]

I did a little comparison on filters years ago, don’t remember a lot of specifics except that how I liked the effect was dependent on the subject. Perhaps you could compensate .5, 1.0, 1.5 stops for Y/O/R.

[@richardsilva-spokane3436]

NEW SUB I had to pause at a few minutes in, and immediately like and subscribe. Your humor coupled with technical had me thinking AND chuckling. Excellent video in both content and editing 👍

[@abraxamovic]

Any idea what lens hood is that?

[@Daniel.Anugerah]

Last time I was this early the T2 was a cheap point and shoot

[@thenegotiator9701]

You can dim the effect by going with an orange or yellow filter.

[@bennmurhaaya8518]

Red filter for portraits - I would have to advise against it. It will smooth out the skin somewhat but will also make lips blend in with the skin giving somewhat bland, flat look. A yellow or green filter for portrait is much better choice. Blue filter can create a very dramatic portrait that highlights all imperpections (sort of reminiscent of tintype which is sensitive to UV and Blue only). Also any scene with a foliage will, in my opinion, not benefit from the red filter since the green foliage will be just a dark dull grey. It might be a great choice for deserts and mountains, where the actual palette is muted in the first place and it's more about tones than colors. Orange filter is much better choice for enhanced contrast, darkened sky but without sacrificing the foliage tonal range.

[@thorstenjaspert9394]

A red filter is good to dark clear, deep blue sky on B/W films. Blue sky looks to bright on on black-and-white photos. Does someone combine it with a pol filter?

[@Tomstar18]

Nice Video, you are the God of Animations! I think the huge lighting and contrast differences in some shots are partly due to how you metered the exposure, as you said you metered for the scene without a filter and then added 3 Stops for the red filter as if it was an ND filter. But red filters opposed to ND filters dim different wavelengths at different rates like you said at the beginning, so if the scene consists of mostly reds and yellows the overall exposure will be greater so 3 stops will be too much and the opposite is the case with blues and greens where you might need more stops. So the best way to meter would be with a red filter on the lens and TTL metering.

[@vasyapupken]

red filter is not highlighting rush and other skin defects. it makes them less visible instead ) any red-colored defects will be less visible with a red filter on (so as lips. ha-ha). red filter - hides acne and shows veins. blue filter - shows acne and hides veins. so the best filter for B&W portrait is dark yellow/orange. (and use a dark lipstick to define lips contour)

[@eddiecarrasco878]

I wonder how many yes we see you place the red filter on the lens.

[@onigrapher]

Where did you get that square lens hood?

[@wv_]

Having just watched a video on trichrome and coming here I wonder if you can achieve the mythical aerochrome look you’re going for by combining IR sensitive film with four filters: RGB and then a filter that only lets in IR.

[@adamhymel2386]

This is an interesting concept!!

[@c1m1w]

Gotta say, proving the adage that gear does not make for great photos with the $1500 tripod head getting its time to shine! (God I want a arca cube)

[@kyleglasgow007]

I can safely say after watching this I will never shoot with a red filter haha. Not sure if that was your intent but I think that it makes the contrast weaker. That could also be due to the exposure difference (3 stop reduction etc).

[@danielfionte3399]

Shoot with film that is more sensitive to red light, like Ilford SPX200, Panchromatic or Super-Panchromatic or IR films. Avoid Ilford Ortho as it is sensitive only to blue and green light, and while I love Fuji Acros II for street shooting it is "Orthopan" meaning it is mostly blue and green with yellow and a touch of red sensitivity but not enough to bother using a red filter. I would also suggest 2 - 2.5 stops of over exposure rather than 3 after tests if you're wanting higher contrast.

[@pierre-alixfavillier4988]

can you please explain why you have a portra label on the back of your camera when you are shooting B&W?!? My conspiracy theory: Matt Day shot all the photos...

[@BackFocus11]

You and Caleb make the best f*cking youtube videos!! great work

[@jakeoppy3442]

try is with infrared film, some ilford SFX or rollei?

[@rockhills]

Orange filter next?

[@vintagephotographer]

You can use red filters with colour film to REALLY drastically alter the shot. Bloodshot, in fact!

[@JamieMPhoto]

I really need to use red filters more ... I have used yellow filters a bit more later. I'm a sucker for dark, dark, skies.

[@avinashpothu2481]

Great video but I can't help but wonder, is this the right filter for street photography? The greens looked muted and less contrasty with this.

[@JamieTheEnby]

Have you tried doing the red, blue, green, filter inorder to create color photos from black and white? Ive never seen someone do this with film before

[@bjmarchives]

I’ve done this. It worked.

[@mgscheue]

@@bjmarchivesSo cool!

[@preshmtz]

Are you doing a video on yellow filter anytime soon?

[@wkhuai]

i lost it when he say “similar to your body when it converts spaghetti to shit” HAHHA

[@jayrdee8929]

I have expired ilford 400 film and a red filter. I set the iso dial to 100 because the film is about 20years old. This is without the red filter. If I place the red filter what should my iso setting be?

[@mikejankowski6321]

Nice technical comparison video and VERY funny.

[@trsc32]

What lens hood and tripod head is that??? Great video like always

[@kismat_rana]

Which lens or hood is that rectangular riding over FD mount ?

[@andrianharilukito9742]

if without filter shoot at 200, and with filter shoot at 30 right? +3 stop?

[@adrienbeaucheix5667]

He nice & fun video can we have the reference of the tripod head ? greetings from France ;)

[@Francisco-ri3mg]

Cool video. which tripod head is that?

[@twonapsaday]

I bought a red filter and have been confused ever since. like what... so thank you!

[@AshtewanPhotoVideo]

Does the in-camera light meter adjust correctly when you have the filter on?

[@kayvondon4030]

From what I’ve read, anything over 3/4ths of a stop is iffy.

[@sontiyo7113]

yes it does with SLRS

[@jp2503]

You should try a polarizer with the red filters.

[@frankfox13]

Love your Channel,thumbs up! Can you make a review with a analog Film like Cinestill 800 and a Tiffen Black Pro Mist Filter on it? I think that could be a good match!? What do you think?

[@Gabriel-wv1uz]

1:23 Me too bro, thinking about it now I'm sad

[@eksauto]

Maybe try an Infrared FIlter?

[@aidandavis4243]

is 50 shades of jason (your instagram handle) a clever 'play on' words of fifty shades of graey?

[@MrNamaikisaru]

I shot some Hp5 through through my weight lifting equipment/67 camera. Pushed to 1600. Spot metered for the sky with a handheld meter but with no compensation on a bright blue sky day. The subject was an old pachinko place. This is what I want to see from a red filter, black skies! flic.kr/p/2iuWT7g Glad to see you are still out there. The new angle pool was my favorite.

[@ChristianElia]

really enjoyed this one. can you/anyone let me know what tripod head is used? I need one! lol

[@aidanbarbar5243]

its always a good day when theres a new grainydays upload

[@zacsuxatgaming4982]

I just wanted to let you know that I did in fact buy a red filter and wonder "what the hell do I do with this thing?" because I bought a Pentax K1000 and it came with the camera as well as a couple of lenses and I have no idea what I'm doing with any of it

[@hmombius2717]

how did you got the pictures so grainy? how did you developed it? nice picture btw :)

[@braytonlife]

This was my first time here... OMFG's... hilarious and informative... I have only ever used the Red 25 to shoot infrared... I still shoot film too... I am only days away from having a fully functional darkroom... I have shot mostly with Pentax cameras, the MX is my fav... someone gave me an AE-1... which I think you just inspired me to go out and shoot with... very excited... what is Street Candy? Is that a Lomo thing? Anyway, cool channel...

[@7000DASH]

What about orange filters

[@sputumtube]

I like monochrome images with plenty of contrast (like the newspaper images from 50 years ago e.g.) - what would be the best filter for this? Or are there other factors like film speed and so on?

[@painovoimaton]

The filter you need depends on the scene. You want darker blues, violets and greens? Use a red. You want the opposite, use a green. It also depends on the film stock. Something like Ilford Delta 100 will have more contrast than HP5+. Some films like filters more, some less. Experiment and get a set of filters: Yellow, orange, red and green.

[@stevenscottcoleman]

Came for the title, stayed for the commentary.

[@SabbaLinga]

these are all beautiful, it gives you that noir feel to it and its kinda inspiring to me. amazing video man +1

[@미쿠오]

5:40 evolving as a photographer, or revolving as a photohrapher?

[@BIbiVstf3sx]

I like it, but i tend to keep my lens more stopped down becausei feel it soften the images... cool effect tuought

[@ac_santana]

Jason , don't you dare stop making the Solo refs

[@neilfulcher9298]

Hi, You know back in the day, when there was only film photography, using coloured filters with B&W film was photography 101. Red was considered quite extreme, and used mainly for dramatic effect in landscape photography. Yellow and orange were milder. Green was good when photographing foliage. When using a camera with a TTL meter, as you 're metering through the lens, and therefore the filter, exposure compensation will take care of itself. Of course if you're going to digitise your negatives, similar effects can be created with photo editing software without the inconvenience of screwing filters to your camera lens. However the filters will save you some serious and skilled work in the darkroom if you're continuing down the traditional route to produce your image.

[@jarman1970]

First time checking out your channel. It was the Clifford’s big red ass that convinced me to subscribe.😅😅

[@RodrigoWBlum]

The video is so very nice, but the red filter, tho... I think it may work better for nature and landscape photos...

[@ebalsdon5870]

Thanks for a very helpful video, this is the first time I've come across your channel. What is that clicky thing called that you're using to take the photo?

[@grainydaysss]

It's called a shutter release cable. Hope that helps!

[@ebalsdon5870]

@@grainydaysss thanks!

[@owenhaupt]

Hey Jason, question about your scans. When you scan, do you put film straight onto the scanner bed? Do you ever experience the scans in that setup to be not in focus? Or film holders not in focus? etc.

[@stevegilliver5104]

Back in the old days.... The red filter was used for landscapes when the sun was high and there was plenty of clouds in the sky That's were you will see a pleasing effect. Clouds look dramatic with more contrast and tonal range And the sky with wide angle lens 24mm or wider can make the shot. Not for any other real use. You should try green for cityscapes or yellow for more subtle changes. No need to use any of these filters for portraiture...

[@happyginge]

love the episode, watched this while quite a few stella's deep in the Uk. What lens hood do you use on the cannon? ned one to make me look hipster too!!

[@Oh_snap_jane]

Your videos are inspiring to my therapist! Love your work

[@skateboarding4life]

I'm always looking forward to watching your credits. Love that parallax-thing you do!

[@circleofattention6021]

Best intro ever 😷