Baaeed | Racing Immortality Awaits

[@johnnyboy6608]

One thing I took from this, if I ever go to the sales. Look for a horse with a body of a sprinter but the pedigree of a stayer.

[@kourtlandperry1698]

Yesssss

[@mervmervalot2296]

And an arse that could pull a plough

[@TrisWood]

More content like this please

[@burningsagemanmusic7491]

Superstar, there in no liberation in comparison. Admire for the Champions that they are. No comparison needed.

[@neozeusbabba567]

Over hyped useless animal.. I had 90k on to win 20k.. I've lost my house and now I'm homeless 🙃

[@elgransenor1472]

Excellent and enjoyable video Great work

[@adambeauregard1021]

As an American he would have been a bigger story at the BC then Flightline and his chase for immortality IMO. I would have LOVED to see him run at Keeneland

[@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon]

Sadly it’s another scared route. Didn’t take in the ARC which is more important than anything. Now he’s taking in a race i refuse to call the champion stakes because that race was at Newmarket and not a bog ground ascot over the Prince of wales C and D.

[@adambeauregard1021]

@@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon War Like Goddess just beat the boys over here and is most likely going to run in the BC turf at 1.5 miles against the boys. It would have been an incredible story had Baaeed shipped over to run against her. Like I said Flightline is the headline of this year's BC but it wouldn't have been had the connections of Baaeed shipped this great racehorse over. It would have been incredible to see Baaeed run in the Turf and see how he performed then see Flightline run in the Classic bc they were never going to run against each other. To witness the 2 best race horses in the world run on their preferred surfaces on the same card would have been incredible.

[@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon]

@@adambeauregard1021 Adayar for BC turf is the highlight for us euros

[@grizzlybear6053]

Agreed. BC is his perfect distance. It's on dirt which would give him great excuse if run badly. Wrong trainer imo. He's beat nobody however I think the horse has great potential. Trainer even skipped Irish champion stakes where top 3 European horses were running.

[@markhancock7527]

i do like William seems really nice.

[@pjnugent8198]

Superstar for 2023. Will win everything he runs in. Aidan O'Brien's ' Auguste Rodin ' You have been told. 🇮🇪

[@jeangascoigne7490]

Best of luck with baaeed you and he deserve it. You and you staff are some of the best in racing.Gluck Mr Haggis. Gazza.

[@Blr_farms]

What a cool and composed trainer.

[@suemaher5282]

I hope he does what is expected William and Maureen are two of the nicest people in racing. Hard working never any nonsense. Lester and the Sheik would have loved to see Baeed

[@paulbest2203]

Looking forward Sue ,wonderful horse.

[@suemaher5282]

@@paulbest2203 can't wait Paul. Rain has stayed away its up to Baaeed now. I think he will do it

[@johnnyboy6608]

Who was the galileo horse

[@elgransenor1472]

Does anyone else agree that the Champion Stakes was a better race when it was run at Newmarket? Just imagine if Frankels final race had been at the scene of his famous Guineas win. The racing on Champions Day has rarely been great imo. I’d rather go back to the QE II in late September at Ascot on better ground and the Champion at Newmarket where the surface copes better with the late season weather. Then horses could even run in both.

[@rodneymckee8431]

Any proper horse racing fan would agree with you fully even trainers there's just to much racing high and low grade. Sure half of the G1s shouldn't even be that

[@elgransenor1472]

@@rodneymckee8431 Yep The party in the stands and full tv coverage of “multiple G1s on one day” is more important than the racing

[@cmrcz7550]

Great point!!!!!!!

[@tomtheeagle1]

Moving the only 1mile 2 furlong Group One run on a straight course anywhere in the world and then running it round a bend at Ascot was an act of vandalism. Frankel winning it probably saved the BHB's bacon. I remember Jim McGrath promising to boycott Champions Day forever in protest but that did not last.

[@xenophonalexandrou8069]

Baaeed has a golden violet ocean blue sparkling white AURA 😇 Privilege to witness

[@brucesekulic5443]

Can’t help wondering why a last run at the Breeder’s Cup was n’t mooted, given the ground concerns. I know this is after the fact, but, still...

[@johnriordan6342]

Love baeed what a horse. But sea the stars for me was the ultimate racehorse in last 30 years or so any distance it didn't matte. To say frankel the best of all time crazy

[@cmrcz7550]

They took a very,very easy way out to preserve his perfect winning record. All for stud fees Racing forgotten We are witnessing the end of the once great,European racing

[@elgransenor1472]

Mate, I agree If I’d owned him I would have been aiming him at the Arc - but only on the condition that the ground was decent. I wouldn’t run my champion horse on heavy ground at Longchamp as his first try over 12f. So whilst I would have been targeting the Arc I would have withdrawn him in the heavy ground. The problem with Baaeed (and Frankel before him) is that both should have run over 10f at 3. If they’d both won over 10f at 3 there would have been so many opportunities to try 10 and 12f at 4. They both left it too late to step up in distance. If he wins on Saturday the only other race I would consider running him in is the Japan Cup. 12f and you can usually expect a good surface. I would not run him at the Breeders Cup The dirt races there are great, the turf races I don’t rate at all due to the tracks. The only thing about the Japan Cup is that would mean he had been up for a long time. His first race in mid May so by late November he would have been in training for over 8 months and racing for almost 7 months. It’s a lot to ask a horse to travel at the end of that lengthy period on the go.

[@johnsonkevin1]

@@elgransenor1472 so you would train him to the minute and aim at Longchamp, then pull out on the day because of the ground. Then hope he was still 100% cherry ripe 2 weeks later for the Champion Stakes? Luckily these horses are not trained by you

[@elgransenor1472]

@@johnsonkevin1 Horses do similar all the time.

[@cmrcz7550]

@@elgransenor1472 yes I think the Arc should have been the aim,on the condition that ground was decent. If not,he like you said,could have been aimed at the JC or a string of races next UK season Frankel was a bit of a different story imho.He racing inspired Sir Henry to a bit more time on this planet (RIP) I do think if Sir Henry wasn't sick,Prince Khalid would have raced him as a 5yr old and would have stepped up the distance. There was NO way his beloved horse would race on without his great trainer.

[@cmrcz7550]

@@elgransenor1472 it was the attitude too mate Could see Mr Haggas was up for it,but damn Godolphin and even that jockey: all about preserving records for stud The UK and IRE will soon just be a nursery

[@elgransenor1472]

Just echoing some earlier comments If he wins comfortably on Saturday he goes down as a very good racehorse but hardly into immortality. Immortality would have been winning the Arc Unfortunately the Arc has been run on dreadful ground 5 out of the last 6 years so I don’t blame them for not going there If there was a decent chance of decent ground at Longchamp they should have gone there but in the end they made the right decision because of the ground and weather. I wouldn’t run my champion horse at Longchamp in the mud as his first attempt at 12f. I wouldn’t run him in the Breeders Cup races either The turf tracks in the US aren’t good enough for world championship races. Too tight and the straights are too short. The problem with Baaeed (and Frankel before him) is that both should have run over 10f at 3. If they’d both won over 10f at 3 there would have been so many opportunities to try 10 and 12f at 4. They both left it too late to step up in distance. If he wins on Saturday the only other race I would consider running him in is the Japan Cup. 12f and you can usually expect a good surface. I would not run him at the Breeders Cup The dirt races there are great, the turf races I don’t rate at all due to the tracks. The only thing about the Japan Cup is that would mean he had been up for a long time. His first race in mid May so by late November he would have been in training for over 8 months and racing for almost 7 months. It’s a lot to ask a horse to travel at the end of that lengthy period on the go

[@johnsonkevin1]

I take it you were not watching racing when Frankel was about? Because I'd you were you would know why they didn't run him over 10f as a 3 year old.

[@JD-767]

Should be running in the Cox Plate. Shame really.

[@charlescarter9600]

would have been more impressed if it had gone for the arc or breeders cup but a champion ,too me champions dont dodge good horses they beat them

[@Shadai929]

Breeders cup would prove nothing no top horses going to it

[@rodneyayew6858]

@@Shadai929 speaking as an unbiased American, I think the BC Mile had claimed many superstar European scalps (Sonic Lady, Zilzal, And Rock of Gibraltar). It is easy to dodge it by saying it won't do anything. Maybe they need to raise the prize money but I don't like the recent trend of top Euros skipping this great race

[@MarkHewitt]

Talking about Frankel, what would have been the hardest task - Winning the Arc or beating Cirrhus Des Aigles in the Champion?

[@barbaradyson6951]

@@rodneyayew6858 trouble is american racing is bent. Plus you allow the use of lasix which is banned in Europe on race days but not in america

[@Shadai929]

@@rodneyayew6858 the problem is it’s an afterthought for our top horses.but the main target for the ones the level below that so they end up getting beaten by horses who wouldn’t beat them back home

[@1stdown407]

A monster in Europe in Baaeed, a monster in the making in NA in Flightline……it’s to bad the sporting is no longer in racing….that’s the race I want to see

[@robertdelacy3434]

They would never race against each other turf an dirt racing is totally different

[@robwightman6357]

It's raining for champions day too he will still win though

[@barbaradyson6951]

Exception Persian Punch, massive horse built like a brick house and an out and out stayer. Just noticed Baeed has a long stride. Horse racing is the only horse sport that doesn't use AI.

[@youthearth2653]

yes it does there are quite a few companies out there using it now.

[@robertdelacy3434]

@@youthearth2653 no they don't it's banned in thoroughbred racing

[@youthearth2653]

@@robertdelacy3434 Not sure I agree it can be used as a "Moneyball" methodology is used in the sales process for example, yearlings, breeze ups and companies are doing it. For example biomechanics, pedigree, heart scan, stride length...the guys who discovered American Pharoah were the first to do it in the USA, and now some companies are doing it in the UK to a greater or lesser degree.

[@robertdelacy3434]

@@youthearth2653 it's not allowed it will never be allowed

[@daleviker5884]

@@robertdelacy3434 Yes, artificial insemination is not allowed in horse racing. But I wonder if the Youth and Earth guy is talking about artificial Intelligence in training?

[@kourtlandperry1698]

Baaeed has a full brother named Hukum....who won the 2022 coronation cup

[@jasoncanavan5237]

Great horse but I wish he was tested more like going overseas. Frankel was exceptional as well but enable tested herself in France and America that for me buts up with the greatest there ever was!

[@allancurrie9472]

Frankel was the real McCoy

[@barbaradyson6951]

Never heard of Ribot?

[@Acloserlook735]

Baaeed will attempt to win his 11 and final start in the Qipco Champion Stakes over 10F. I am of the opinion he is a bet against with the presence of the 2021 Epsom Derby winner Adayar in the field. No! I haven't lost my mind but rather, I am viewing the race from a perspective that I think make sense. As usual I could be totally wrong, and the cold facts below could prove to be meaningless. ADAYAR - 6/05/2021 - Won 12F Epsom.(G1) BAAEED - 6/05/2021 - Won 8F MSW ADAYAR - 7/24/2021 - Won 12F King George against older. First to achieve the Epsom Derby/King George double since Gallello (20Y) BAAEED - 7/30/2021 - Won 8F; G3 (57K) ADAYAR - 10/3/2021 - Finished 4th 12F Arc. Led in final furlong; Track -heavy BAA EED - 10/16/2021-Won 8F G1-$624K What does the above three 3YO races for the top 2 entrants in the Champion Stakes reflect? Adayar was the more accomplished 3YO by a wide margin. One colt was winning a MSW when the other was winning the Epsom Derby. One colt was winning the King George against older when the other was winning a G3 against his peers Due to injury Adyar was away from the races for 327 days. He made his only start as a 4YO in September. It was not much of a field (2 opponents) and he cantered the entire10F without being let off the bridle. Baaeed has made 4 starts as a 4YO winning all impressively. The big question has to be. Is Baaeed a better horse than Adayar? And if so. By how much? A review of Baaeed RR reflects he has never met a 4YO like Adayar. Charlie Appleby was reluctant to run Adayar in the Epsom Derby because he viewed him as a big unfinished sort, whom he believed would be much better as 4YO. Adayar performed way beyond his trainer's expectation as a 3YO. Another big question has to be. How much has Adayar improved in the 327 days he has been away? Is he now the finished product Appleby and ready to supersede what he accomplished as a 3YO. If he has returned a better colt at 4, it is likely he will be more than a formidable opponent for Baaeed. Will Baaeed be able to run by Adayar who a resolute galloper as a 3YO and who should be much stronger as a 4YO.? It's not an ordinary 3YO that wins the Epsom Derby and the King George in the same year. There is really nothing on Baaeed's resume to compare to same. I'm therefore of the opinion that Adayar should prove too tough for Baaeed and will send him to the breeding shed with his sole career loss.

[@elgransenor1472]

Interesting but I think Adayar needs 12f The 10f might just be too short for him.

[@elgransenor1472]

@Tszyu Nah mate I just left He kept getting everything wrong so I couldn’t stick around and watch that.

[@DwayndibbVids]

Nobody thinking Adayar is by Frankel 😂. Imagine if he pulled off the miracle. You know it would be abit sad. Just the big layoff is more of a concern against a prime Baaeed. I would prefer if Alpinista and Vadeni were here. Flightline obviously. Bayeed could take on Jack Christopher at 7F for another challenge. Just kidding here.

[@DwayndibbVids]

@Tszyu If the ground was soft you never know.

[@RustyPeng]

You weren't wrong, but Bay Bridge is a fighter aye

[@nightowl7459]

Baaeed has got another pretty weak field on Saturday, the ground must be more of a worry than the opposition, I would have thought Adayar would have been capable of giving him a race if Godolphin had shelled out and supplemented a pacemaker, but unfortunately they haven't.

[@robertdelacy3434]

Hardly anyone runs pacemakers anymore it's a shame

[@nightowl7459]

@@robertdelacy3434 Very true, and with smaller and smaller fields they should be doing, we will get a softly run race just like we did in the International, it was hardly a stamina test for Baaeed, I bet the old school trainers wouldn't have used a pacemaker.

[@robertdelacy3434]

@@nightowl7459 no think they did in some races dick hern used two pacemakers for busttino against grundy in the king George

[@DwayndibbVids]

Yes everyone just avoids him unfortunately. It's like in boxing.

[@Mr_Nigeria100]

Baaeed’s style of racing is like his dad (Sea The Stars) in that he doesn't destroy his opposition but wins like he's not all out. So that makes him hard to gauge how good he is. I mean obviously he's very good. but with Frankel it was easier because of the distance he used to put dehind him. Also Baeed never won a classic and never raced at two. Also the best horse middle distance of last year (St Marks Basillica) was retired to stud. The unbeaten English Derby winner (Desert Crown) got injured and this years Arc winner (Alphinsta) is not here. Maybe Baeed would have beaten them all ? Maybe. I've got a feeling he'll lose tomorrow. Think Adayar might pip him in a big struggle to the line

[@grizzlybear6053]

Why not bring him to breeders cup classic. Nothing too lose. If he wins it, horse becomes a legend 👏 Otherwise he's just a another UK champion horse. What has he beaten? Yes, we can say, hes a better horse than misriff who hasn't won a race in 2 years. Baeed can never be compared with the recent greats like a Giants Causeway, Rock of Gibraltar or Sea the Stars etc Its a shame we will not see the horses real potential 😕

[@Mark-xp6fz]

Exactly dodged The Arc because of a wet surface

[@DwayndibbVids]

@@Mark-xp6fz I cant blame them there in Paris as Corebus at 3 broke a leg a few weeks ago there. Also there was atleast 1 other 2 year old the same.

[@jasonbutler5064]

should of gone for the arc with his family tree

[@jacob4690]

He’ll win and become immortal but he’ll never be a Frankel or Sea The Stars

[@JonJonJonJonJonJonJonJon]

Is correct Jacob. Nice to see a racing fan talk sense. 👍

[@pauldonohoe3646]

Or Dancing Brave

[@jacob4690]

@@pauldonohoe3646 bit before my time that but yes!

[@pauldonohoe3646]

Or Galileo

[@nightowl7459]

@@pauldonohoe3646 I'm not sure about Galileo, as good as he was, he's remembered more for what he's achieved at stud than anything he achieved on the racecourse.

[@johnobrien8398]

This could be rofe on it’s a bad bet lay it heavy man.

[@volkersteinbrecht3564]

sic transit gloria mundi

[@harric9864]

He’s a nice horse but not in the same realm as Frankel

[@rodneymckee8431]

Baaeed will go down as 1 of the geats but not the greatest they took the easy option like many of the big owners take when having a unbeaten horse.

[@DwayndibbVids]

Some of the smaller owners dont take risks where Godolphin, Coolmore and Judmonte sometimes will send them Worldwide. To be fair these owners need Baaeed to be their stallion for next 20 years. The other 3 could buy one.

[@rodneymckee8431]

@@DwayndibbVids sure Godolphin effectively own shadwell after the passing of the owner. Godolphin are the 1s who really need a stallion bar Dubawi who have they got. That's why minzaal was retired straight after winning his G1

[@TribalThief]

Sorry but beating the same horses over and over means nothing, owners ducked the arc and the breeders cup

[@barbaradyson6951]

So did winx.

[@MarkHewitt]

What would have you gone for on Champions Day - Champions Stakes against Adajar or the QEII against Inspiral?

[@1stdown407]

Agreed, it’s what made Enables campaign so much more impressive

[@lockoshocko]

Are you talking about Frankel or Baaeed?

[@MarkHewitt]

@@1stdown407 But the John Gosden ensured that Enable did not meet her biggest competitor in those two Arc wins - Cracksman!

[@3meeds275]

These Clowns really comparing the Great Baaeed to Sea the Stars…🤣 absolute wastemen. Stop hating and Enjoy the best horse of our generation!! 🏆

[@Alba-alnile]

Big fan of Baaeed and he’s a great champion .. but his Sire is at a different level

[@cmrcz7550]

@@Alba-alnile um,no

[@silenusut]

This reporter can sometimes appear rather trying

[@bigcee3338]

immortality my arse hes beat nothing and only one to beat tomortow

[@DwayndibbVids]

It is harsh but people saying obviously this is English Champions Stakes but Alpinista is going to be European Horse of the year. But really in 3-4 years time it wont matter if Baaeed juniors are winners too!

[@tbseow344]

It would be better if he wins Breeders Cup, Japan Cup, L'Arc de Triomph or Hong Kong Cup. Frankel has won in HK

[@tomtheeagle1]

No he didn't!

[@thexxgamerproxx1010]

Immediately loses

[@mohamadsaab3659]

Adayar might get him

[@rodneymckee8431]

There's more chance me bting Baaeed than Adayar bting him

[@Mark-xp6fz]

overrated

[@darkoscur6628]

Baeed will win easy