Baby Gorilla-Kunda #45 & Family.

It's April 13th, and this is the latest video in a series on the new Baby Gorilla Kunda at The Cleveland Metroparks Zoo. She was born in July to mom, Kebi. Kebi is 33 years old, Kunda is 8-1/2 months. Since Jameela has not been released into the exhibit I'm waiting to feature her soon.
Kayembe was the first "zoo born" gorilla born at the Cleveland Metroparks Zoo.
Kunda is the second baby born in Cleveland in less then 2 years.
Jameela is the first baby gorilla born via cesarean at the Fort Worth Zoo.
All of the gorillas at the Cleveland Metroparks Zoo were born in zoos.
Birthdates: Mokolo 7/10/87, Fredrika 6/5/74, Nneka 9/23/98, Kebi 1/13/91/ Tusa 12/2/89, and Kayembe 10/26/21, and Kunda 7/19/23, Jameela 1/5/24.
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[@wildthunderbird]

I like the way Mokolo shakes the dirt off his kale. They are a busy family this morning. Love all of them so much. Thank you for the update! ❤️❤️❤️💐

[@larrysanimalsafari]

You are welcome 👍😁

[@fayelove4545]

Thanks Larry, I so enjoy watching Kayembe's hunt for a playmate. He will so love his little sister.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@elainebines6803]

He will but he'll have to learn to be gentle, or Freddie will be on his case 🤔

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Right. 👍

[@AlinaWhitfield0510]

Haha Kayembe is very funny hiding behind the family's wooden canoe or container and then baby Kunda with his gestures. I love seeing this family.❤❤❤❤thank you Larry’s 😉♥️♥️♥️

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you Alina! 👋😁

[@dmoore2732]

It usually takes a month or more to integrate a surrogate into the troop. Nneka's brother was the only baby in the troop and was totally healthy. It still took a month to introduce him to Nneka's mother. SF zoo released video of the behind-the-scenes process. There is also video of Toni and Zahra's introduction in Columbus and Bulera and Gandai's introduction in Jacksonville. Kayembe must be staying with Nneka in the night quarters now. That's why she brings him into the habitat. See how happy he was to see Freddie? Freddie could be getting some Jameela time overnight.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Sure, we may learn the Cleveland process after the fact. 👍😁

[@Sirianstar10]

I can't wait for Jameela to finally join the troop. Kayembe is a little rascal. He makes me laugh. I love this family! Thanks, Larry!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@bellaluv1070]

I was thinking the same thing. Jameela and Kunda❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

😁👍

[@elainebines6803]

Kayembe has so much energy. Tbh he needs a twin brother to wear him out a bit 😂

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Yes 🤣

[@tammylarimer-xw3pd]

Thank you for all back info you've been doing with the troop for anyone who is new to your channel. I've been pretty invested into your channel since Kayembe was born. What a journey.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you Tammy for following along! 👋😁

[@pennybrashears9676]

Once again, Larry, another great video. Thanks for pointing out the reaction of the gorillas as they entered the enclosure; how some entered alert/wary and how others entered with only food on their mind. It is great to see your channel grow.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you Penny! 👋😁

[@ramonaschwarzlose5909]

Freddie hat ein so großes Herz ❤ und interessiert sich für Jameela. 🥰😍

[@mortalclown3812]

It's so beautiful to see her wait for the baby! She's the dearest being. My heart gets all squishy when I see her with Kayembe. And she's so old. Just the best SOUL. Blessings to you 😊

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Freddie es una buena mamá. gracias por ver.

[@joycook3093]

Thanks again, Larry, Once again I learned something new about this family of gorillas.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👏👏👏😁 That’s one goal of mine. ✅

[@mortalclown3812]

So excited to see you at almost 5K!!.🎉🎉🎉🎉 🌟💫👌😊 We LOVE your channel!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

ME TOO! 😆

[@IamAdrienne]

Thanks for sharing this troop's story. Gorillas are beautiful and their sense of family and care is very human like. I am so fascinated by them.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👋😁

[@TheSageisBack]

SO agree!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you !

[@sharondunlap9908]

Kayembe comes out riding in Nneka’s back I was laughing 😊

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Mixing it up, I imagine they are encouraging him to bond more with Nneka, Free up Freddie

[@canadafreedom]

enjoy your videos!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you Canada! 👋😁

[@heavenlyclouds1337]

I love your channel and that it’s quiet. Other channels played this loud music and you’re trying to watch their Gorillaz and the music so loud I have to turn it off the music but yours is fantastic and I can’t wait for Jamila to get with the mother gorilla you cover it excellent❤❤❤❤

[@mortalclown3812]

He plays music a lot of the time- stuff I like but we can always turn the volume down. 😊❤❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Well, I do play music in some videos. Please feel free to use your volume control if you prefer silence. It’s very rate that I allow crowd noise, too many inappropriate/private conversations going on nearby. They just think it’s private.

[@ramonaschwarzlose5909]

🤣 Das Familienleben der Gorillas ist lustig. 🥰❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Ja, tatsächlich.

[@sharondunlap9908]

Freddie waiting for her, I feel bad, Freddie wants Jameela.❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

🤗

[@rosiepena8917]

Omg Kunda is sooo cute 😍❤😍

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👏👏👏👍. Yes!

[@sharondunlap9908]

Thank you Larry so much😊 for

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@bepje18158]

There comes a time soon that our little boy won't be so "little" anymore..gosh he's growing so fast our dashing dude..making a snipers nest to camouflage him😄🤭😍heart warming to see Freddie check up on Jameela..it's become a routine now👏👍🥰the whole family is looking good!👍👏Thanx Larry!👍👏🫶🌞🌻

[@larrysanimalsafari]

You are welcome.

[@vjc2270]

Kunda is looking very lively this morning❣️ And of course, Kayembe is always lively - it was so cute when he was hiding from Mokolo behind the barrel. 😂 I love Nneka’s ‘pick n mix’ approach to breakfast - she gathered up a great selection of goodies. 😋 It was so sweet to see Freddie waiting for Jameela. I hope Kayembe’s ‘etiquette’ training progresses quickly so baby girl can join the troupe full-time❣️🙏 Thanks so much Larry. 🤩

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁. You are welcome

[@ramonaschwarzlose5909]

😂 Kayembe ist clever! 🥰❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@fayelove4545]

Thanks!

[@mortalclown3812]

❤🎉👌

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you Faye. I really appreciate the extra support. 👋😁

[@woroodalRose]

Jameela is an Arabic female name means Beautiful.. Adorable suits the lil one.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@irenekopec9892]

What was baby girl kunda responding to? Will have to wait until Tuesday? Lol😉 terrific video . Thank you Larry ❤🦍

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Ha, that was just a lucky catch with my camera. Maybe as she gets out more, i can observe more. 👋😁

[@inezandrade106]

Nneka é esperta, pegou muita comida, brócolis e folhagens....😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Yes, smart and has lots of energy.

[@marykelly2409]

Morning 😊 Troops 🖐🏼 4-13-24

[@larrysanimalsafari]

😁👋

[@inezandrade106]

Que bonito, acho que foi o kayembe que correu para ver Jameela....😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Yes

[@inezandrade106]

Adoroooooo esses nomes deles.... Sou louca por momes estranhos, e eles têm nomes lindossss...😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@claudiadossantosfernandes1094]

Bom dia! Essa família tem uma dinâmica muito interessante, Kebi se concentra em cuidar de Tunda, Fred fica perto de Kayembe, eu acho que ela olha Jameela e sente que precisa ajudar, que ali perto das grades com a Tratadora não é o lugar da Jameela, é o instinto maternal. Não sabia que Mokolo tem problemas cardíacos, fico triste, eu gosto do Mokolo, ele é bom para a tropa. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Gracias por compartir tus pensamientos. Creo que los gorilas machos simplemente tienen una cara que los humanos consideramos mala. Tal vez lo aprendieron al arrugar sus rostros durante siglos moviéndose entre las espesas plantas de la jungla. JAJAJA

[@MouthyMiriam]

I know this video is a month old, but can you tell me…. Does Mokolo interact with Jameela in a paternal kind of way. Is that something that he would do? Thank you for the videos that you do Larry. I really enjoy them.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

I have seen Mokolo observe Jameela, kind of look her over, but he has not held her (or any of the little ones). I would not expect him to hold one of them. His role is protector, not caretaker.

[@bellaluv1070]

I am worried about Tusa..Im far from an expert but she seems so sad. Is that normal when joining a newer troop?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

I don’t have info on that. I’m sure some other viewers can share thoughts & experiences from other zoos.

[@consuelopando9414]

Gracias Larry por tus actualizaciones Tuza con 34 años criada por umanos los dañamos pobre sin descendencia gracias al zoologici y a ustedes amadores de los animalitos han aceptado.muy bien a Jameela

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Gracias por mirar y compartir un comentario hoy.

[@inezandrade106]

Os gorilas têm que comer bastante, devido a sua composição física e tamanho. São fortes e altos....

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Yes, you are correct

[@donataj2213]

Kayembe is still a young child who needs his mum's attention and upbringing, so I don't know if it will be possible for Freddie to raise Jameele, Kayembe will try to take all the attention for himself. I hope I am wrong, but it is known how much in nature a mother raises a child, and here such a small age difference, between a potential new baby.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

🤷‍♂️

[@TheSageisBack]

It's interesting that, during the separation times, they didn't opt to isolate Freddie so that she could be alone with Jameela for closer physical bonding. Maybe even put them with Kebi and Kunda, so that Kunda can also have some Kayembe-free time to move about without her mother being so guarded. Then Tusa alone or with Mokolo, Nneka, and Kayembe. Also, I wish they'd resolve the research issue of gorilla heart disease... It's got to be something staring them right in the eyes. No way all these 'broken hearts' is a coincidence.

[@shawna6683]

That’s my question too. Is Jameela getting a private introduction to the troop members during the day? The way you laid it out makes sense. Jameela has been in Cleveland for 2 weeks! I’m frustrated that the zoo doesn’t put out a more detailed, daily update. There are a lot of gorilla and primate aficionados who would love to see what is happening in real life. Maybe I’m impatient but I don’t think i’m alone.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

What the zoo decides to publish is up to them. Sorry, I’m just a guest entering the zoo. The heart disease issue is a complex one. Cleveland has started (with 2 other zoos) feeding the gorillas a biscuit free diet. It will take 20-25 years to see how it works - they need a gorillas to grow up in that diet to see if it works.

[@TheSageisBack]

@@larrysanimalsafari Never mind my "thinking out loud" moments... I'm not generally making complaints... just pondering the whys/hows/whats/etc. of matters as I learn more. Thanks for the continued updates!

[@TheSageisBack]

@@shawna6683 You are definitely not alone. I think a lot of us are excited with anticipation. While I get that they have to let the troop guide matters for the safety and well-being of all, I wish they had a staff member who could regularly film the behind the scenes moments for the educational interests of those of us who do want to know more about the daily work of primate keepers. Larry's updates are awesome, but, even by his own admission, he can only cover so much.

[@shawna6683]

@@TheSageisBack I’m with you 100%. The daily work of primate keepers is a wealth stories that a lot of people want to know about. It’s not something that emphasizes the conservation story that zoos have to push but come on! There are @ 400 captive gorillas in the US. I want to know what their lives are like. Zoos could have a subscription model that would allow them to raise money for conservation and enrichment projects. Larry must get frustrated that he can’t tell more; or that he isn’t provided with more information. I’m sorry that my frustration with the portrayal of gorilla captivity is on full display. It’s hard to write comments. 🤷‍♀️I hope that no one is offended.

[@hoptoit5910]

That outdoor area they’re in looks really small. I’m hoping it’s just a small part of their enclosure??

[@mortalclown3812]

Fwiw, it's a lot more spacious than it looks. But still wish they had more room.❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Outdoor area is just that, then they have indoor area. 3 interconnected rooms, 15 windows if you notice in videos. I don’t always show all 3 rooms if gorillas are not moving about.

[@kimberlylegacy4190]

Oh wow! Didn’t realize she had two offspring that she didn’t take too! Larry, does this mean she will continue that pattern with other future babies?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Which mom are you referring to?

[@peggyblack1739]

I like the gorillas 🦍 would rather have a voice to follow instead of reading my eyes are going bad and some days are harder to make words out

[@larrysanimalsafari]

I plan on adding that in the future.

[@KJ-jq9pq]

When do they go out?

[@IamAdrienne]

I have the same question. I wonder when they get fresh air.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

They go outside generally when it is 60 degrees and is dry.

[@bonnieferrell8571]

Thank you Larry. Looks like Freddie was excited to see Kayembe. I'm wondering why he's coming out on Nneka's back that's very unusual are they having him sleep with her instead of Freddie??

[@shawna6683]

Kayembe has been more involved with Nneka than the videos have been able to show. He nursed with Nneka when he was younger but I don’t think that even Larry knew it until Kunda was born. Kayembe probably sleeps with whom ever he wants to.

[@mortalclown3812]

Nneke and Freddie have both spontaneously lactated to feed Kayembe. (Nneke's milk dried up when he was being treated for pneumonia, etc.) Larry definitely knew: he posted all the info in close to real time.❤😊 He's the most awesome advocate for Cleveland Metropark Zoo!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thank you. Nneka had limited nursing of Kayembe, Freddie became the “go to”gorilla for nursing. Kayembe , even now, still received a bottle from keepers, he was weaned down from about 12 per day to now just one. I imagine that’s how it will work for Jameela. My knowledge of the troop is gathered from 2 or 3 visits of the gorillas each week since February of 2021. Do I catch everything, nope , but I believe I provide the most complete recap that you will find of this troop anywhere!!

[@larrysanimalsafari]

More details later in this thread. But, from what I’ve learned from 2 years following this troop, the baby- Kayembe will sleep with his mom for roughly two years- that would be Freddie. While no guests see the gorillas sleeping - for a while there Nneka had very little to do with Kayembe.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Answers later in this thread.

[@sharondunlap9908]

K went a flying out.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁

[@inezandrade106]

Verdade o Mokolo parece um gorila bem tranquilo.😊😊😊😅😅😅😅❤❤❤❤❤

[@karamichael2577]

How did Kambera Dupe end up at Zoo Atl? Is Kayembe intimidated by his Dad?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

The Gorilla SSP decides where gorillas go as they age. Yes, he is sometimes intimidated by his Dad. For more info. On the SSP Go to Gorillassp.org

[@sharondunlap9908]

Does the gorillas take the straw or hay I’m not sure what it is, to lay on or eat?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

There is alfalfa hay in there to eat. There is also other material for bedding- not eaten.

[@sharondunlap9908]

It looks like Kayembe is hiding?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

I think playing - l like hiding in a fort, hide n seek ?

[@user-yf9vd7nq2y]

Возможно,что Фредди была и раньше приемной матерью,кроме Киембе.Потому что самки гориллы рожают за всю жизнь 4 детей (редко 5 детей)!Или у неё были близнецы при рождении,но 7детей у неё быть не может 😮

[@larrysanimalsafari]

У Фредди были собственные дети, и она была приемной мамой. Она хорошая мама.

[@sharondunlap9908]

Ok idk but does Kayembe have a rank?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

🤷‍♂️. He’s a youngster so he can often do what he wants - momma will discipline him if he gets outta line. Makes me Wonder if Freddie gets a grumble from Mokolo if Mokolo’s not happy with Kayembe?

[@jacquelineaviles4662]

This is a good family. I think Kayembe is going to be very jealous. Now this is just my thoughts, first I feel Kayembe is too big to still jump on moms back 2nd that may ne be as much of an issue once baby J is with the troop, The tantrums and acting out when he does not get his way. He reminds me of 5 year old Kintaro. Baby K like to play the same role when he is not spoiled, pokes out his lips, doesn't always work

[@TheSageisBack]

He's only two... won't be three until the end of the year. He's still a baby (toddler-aged) who nurses and plays. That's why they are supposedly trying new separations... to work with them to get safely used to Jameela's presence. The staff is reportedly using rewards systems to get Kayembe to be calm in her presence, which actually seems to bring him excitement and joy.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Thanks SageidBack. Good answer

[@Charlotte-r]

13:26 'Oh, good grief, I didn't think about having 2 sisters. Everything's great when they're babies but later on - yikes' 😳😳 😉

[@larrysanimalsafari]

🤣👍

[@jovieappoggiatura]

I would like to see Kayembe enteract with Kunda. Why is he not interested in her?

[@mortalclown3812]

Peanut gallery take: Kebi does let him get close sometimes - there are some cute videos of it! - but she's also super protective at this stage.

[@tammylarimer-xw3pd]

He is, but Kebi is very protective. I'm not sure about real recently, but Kebi hasn't let her be weighed or anything in the past. Visited last weekend and Kebi pushed rambunctious Kayembe away a few times and then strong armed him because he was being pretty rough. He kinda knows Kebi won't let him too close.

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Oh as others have already commented, he is VERY interested and wants to play with Kunda. But he is very rough and runs right into Kebi and Kunda. Kebi does all she can to prevent him from dragging Kunda away. Just an observation , Columbus had a baby gorilla in July also. That baby had a man 8 and 10 year old males in troop. Someone mentioned the two males would steal the baby from mom and run with it all around exhibit. Those two males are now temporarily at Zoo Atlanta and the baby Kwame has a couple scrapes on her head today. Are they from being dragged around the habitat? I don’t know.

[@jovieappoggiatura]

Why was Kambera Dupe sent away to Zoo Atlanta away from her mother, Kebi?

[@mortalclown3812]

She was almost twenty when she went, fwiw. The zoos all cooperate to ensure genetic diversity, etc. They're so critically endangered that they have this giant chart, for wont of a better term, to make sure troops are balanced re: male/ females of certain ages. In the wild, they'd form new troops, too. They try to mimic it as much as possible. Sanctuaries would be next best to their native habitat, but the land, vets, etc are cost prohibitive. (I've been fretting about gorillas, too, and totally wondered if it was traumatic for them to be separated!) ❤❤❤

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Yes, they do sometimes leave for other troops- that was always good for the gene pool. Thanks mortal clown ✅😁

[@jacquelineaviles4662]

If kayembe is too rough they should consider separating freddie and baby J so they can have time alone without being stalked by a rough 3yr. old

[@larrysanimalsafari]

They are doing that now - of course, just short periods of time. Kunda and Kebi are also separated from Kayembe during these new routines where they are in different rooms.

[@verakabline4730]

I never see these gorillas eat fruits,(banana,orange, ect ) or other vegetables like carrot, sweet potatoe,ect) ,only lettuce ,maybe brocolli leaves. Why ?

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Gorillas generally eat browse, ie leaves, plants, small branches, bark, buds off plants/ trees and some bananas, and other fruit in season in the jungle and I suppose some root items. Zoos must adapt, they can offer most of that - romaine, kale, broccoli, green beans, and other legumes. Don’t think oranges grow in jungle.

[@vjc2270]

It may be something to do with Mokolo’s heart problem. Fruit is very high in sugar/carbohydrates (as are starchy vegetables like potato and corn), so it can lead to excessive weight gain, which puts a strain on the heart. They love sweet things, but like humans, are better off if they have them only rarely as a special treat. 😄 As Larry said, gorillas don’t eat a lot of fruit in the wild. I was surprised to read somewhere that their digestive systems are adapted to consume grass and tough greens and are more similar to the digestive system of horses than of humans! 😊

[@Charlotte-r]

I saw a video from the Cleveland Metropark Zoo Channel and a curator was explaining the diet the gorillas receive. She said they receive a low starch, high fiber diet. Their diet consists of a lot of different leafy greens, plus the browse as Larry's response to you provides. The Zoo said that they give no fruit because of the high sugar content. I've read that a diet with high sugar content easily causes dental concerns in gorillas - cavities, tooth loss, gum disease, and poor nutrition. Additionally, the research showed that poor dental hygiene can contribute to heart disease. The Cleveland Channel gives a lot of information if you are interested. 🦍🦍 Happy gorilla watching to you!

[@Charlotte-r]

@@vjc2270 I was wondering if you have ever checked out the Cleveland Metropark Zoo Channel? If not, you might be interested. They showed Mokolo receiving a cardio mobile test. (I was surprised - I had seen them advertised on T.V. but had never been around anyone taking one.) The zookeeper had Mokolo place his two index fingers on the rectangular pad and I just thought it was incredible!

[@Charlotte-r]

@@vjc2270 Wondering if you ever visit the Cleveland Metropark Zoo Channel? Recently I saw a video of Mokolo having a cardio mobile test. I thought it amazing how he was instructed to put his two index fingers on the rectangular pad. Thought it might be of interest to you.

[@patriciastone3501]

Where is their water supply I wonder??

[@larrysanimalsafari]

Gorillas in the wild generally get their water off/from the vegetation they are eating. In Cleveland the indoor habitat does not have a “faucet”, like Columbus has for their orangutans, so the gorillas get their water off vegetation. Outside the same applies but, it is a faucet (like you use for a hamster) that the gorillas can get water from if not from the vegetation.

[@ramonaschwarzlose5909]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@larrysanimalsafari]

👍😁