Baby Lizards Hatching!! We got a False Chameleon Baby!

[@SnakeDiscovery]

An update on the baby geckos (since this video was filmed in late September) Both are doing wonderfully! They're eating newborn dubia roaches and mealworms like champs (even the little guy with a kinked tail!), and are already growing like weeds. They both went to their new homes- we actually delivered them to their owners at the Tinley Park reptile show in October :)

[@reptilerant173]

Snake Discovery That’s awesome!

[@moonlit_skies542]

I hope his kinked tail is fine and will not bother him :3

[@OksanaItkes]

Kinda hoping you will keep that little guy, would love to see his development :D kinda reminded me of myself :)))

[@kristielt5396]

That little guy was so cute. He reminds me of a newborn kangaroo.

[@hey_its_rae2924]

I would be interested in the little runt! The spinning and issues striking the food look like signs of enigma syndrome. I would love to raise him up if given the opportunity. 💜

[@lotsofrootbeer]

I used to work for a reptile breeder and I am fairly confident that the first little leo is a super snow and the second is a patternless. Unfortunately the bigger guy will lose his pattern as he grows, so enjoy it while it lasts! The fact that the smaller one had such a strong appetite is promising! I’ve seen smaller/more messed up babies make it and have a good quality of life. You can use the same bug-them-until-they-open-their-mouth-then-stick-the-bug-in method for leopard geckos if they won’t eat on their own. I think that if the smaller guy dropped his tail it would grow back really bulbous, not tapered like the original. I’ve noticed that when it’s not a clean drop or the tail is already a little funky, it grows back a lot more rounded and shorter. I forgot how stinking cute baby leos are! Especially when they eat :)

[@SnakeDiscovery]

Thanks so much for your input! Sounds like others are in agreement with your morph predictions :) I just let their new owners know what their morphs likely are!

[@-touya_todoroki]

* pokes with food eat eat! eat!! * just had lol

[@tempest3426]

I agree, It looks a lot like a super snow, I have bred them before and that really does look alike to my baby super snow

[@juliusroman8616]

Snake Discovery is the kinked one doing well? What happened to his tail?

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

@Ashlyn Deslatte it's like: nu bad tail I don't like this tail! X drops x

[@lyvernnaidooo4596]

Everyone was like YAAAAAAAAAASSSS LITTLE GECKO EATTTTT As soon as ate it

[@niyadaadon9747]

Right !!

[@e.g.2261]

Me 😂

[@allisonyurchak8153]

i was so happy to see the special little guy eat!

[@korbingames4840]

Noob

[@korbingames4840]

I am sorry

[@partimeweeb6252]

I love when she excitedly says "BABIES!"

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

Somethings wrong with this batch of noodles. They have legs and the ability to blink.

[@MasterXChief05]

Blobbert Mcblob lol

[@leahjvr3245]

@@MasterXChief05 I wonder how it happened..🤔😂

[@gloomy3566]

Maybe something happened during the baking process

[@chloebutcher9780]

Soz I didn't like, it was on 123 so I didn't want to spoil it!

[@makaylahmorgenstern191]

Its a total mystery......"teenage mutant Ninja lizzerds United"

[@ClintsReptiles]

I love these guys! Your babies are so cute! I'll be sure to make a video on false chameleons soon. The leopard gecko with the kinked tail is a super snow.

[@stevengosnell7034]

I figured it was a super snow because it seems like it has a common neurological issue the snows tend to get. I'm no breeder though!

[@Miniae_Cecilia]

Oooo sounds pretty cool

[@crystalfranklin2583]

Clint! Yay! We love you and Ed and Emily!

[@andrealafountain7481]

Definitely super snow on the little one. And Mack snow on the bigger. But I'm wondering if there's any black night in there. Since that's the new hot (expensive) morph! And it's really dark.

[@rose84media56]

Hi Clint's Reptiles! Super Snow that is rad. 😄

[@popemse2839]

*storm alarms start going off* Emily: *sends ed to cook steaks outside*

[@makayla6963]

in the midwest tornado sirens = time to go outside?

[@Just.Cheese]

Lol

[@Vickster13]

is ed ok caus i think it whod be like this, ed. are still making stak emily. no we need to get to the basment or bath tub what rilly hapned, emily. jast make the stak ed. ok emily"do not get strak with liting mother n. 😠😡😫🌚

[@HanT-04]

It's Wisconsin. Those go off all the time. We mostly ignore them, lol.

[@JOURNEYIN2THEUNKNOWN]

​@@HanT-04😂😂

[@bleepbloop5251]

*Any living creature:* h *Emily:* Amazing. Adorable. Spectacular. Perfection.

[@epkesel]

The greatest of historians, the finest philosophers, and even the most renowned of poets have never said words as true as you have here

[@alissapoterfield4279]

Spaghettios ohno They are so cute

[@lizzdoe2821]

Spaghettios ohno I love how happy they both are with babies 😍. It brightens your day 😁

[@miadominguez9738]

Spaghettios ohno I believe that all animals are perfect

[@louisetimmins2748]

I know right

[@pandoravex4791]

I flinched when the egg fluid shot out. 😂

[@ltqueen7043]

Yup

[@mansourelkerdany6666]

I felt that it was on my face

[@vealume]

It even went into Ed’s eye...

[@SpacingOut_]

Oof

[@trick5832]

Same

[@ingesexton811]

I'm falling in love with the false chameleons. Also I love hearing Emily gush over the baby lizards it's so cute.

[@lyvernnaidooo4596]

She made the cutest happiness noises I've heard in a while

[@ConstantChaos1]

Ugh my heart when the lil guy ate

[@ChantalMonette]

I cheered for him I'm so proud of him

[@GenLazer06]

You're so awesome. You remind me so much of my sister in law. Thank you for showing the world about reptiles.

[@tealmandala632]

Gecko: attacks sibling and bites Emily Emily: (cutesy voice) Awwwww you’re so sassy!

[@makaylahmorgenstern191]

Meeeeeee

[@astrinymris9953]

He wasn't attacking his sibling; he's just the Bigwings of the clutch, with power of the Wings of Fire. ;-D

[@purrfectpurrincess8045]

@@astrinymris9953 HOLY FU- YESSS

[@lysane7197]

Actually, there is some information on breeding Bearded Anoles... In Polish xD They say that they get the most success when eggs are incubated in temp 24-26 Celsius in humidity 70-80%, placed in sphagnum moss or vermiculite/sphagnum moss mix and they're supposed to hatch after around 35-45 days

[@prems16]

Lysane thanks for trying to help.

[@whynotegg]

1:45 I’m CRYING he’s got the head of an old man and the body of a little BABY

[@linguiniperuano]

The animal opening the fridge to take out the body of a baby: "And I meant every part of it."

[@horizon319]

She literally makes the same noises of adorable-ness I’d make if I saw those little babies too. So freaking cute!

[@caroline520]

So freaking cute

[@kristimontgomery6629]

horizon319 I would like one of your gekos

[@dragondestroyer8221]

So freaking cute!!!/James Charles 🦎 lizards

[@jethrofrack2591]

Me to I want one

[@jethrofrack2591]

No no no no I men yes yes yes yes

[@teenashakya9159]

Emily:chilling inside Ed:going outside and cooking some stake in cold air

[@mariamedellin6288]

Sirens are going off "I'm still gonna grill this steak tho"

[@ShakariDarkFlames]

that's just what it's like in the midwest

[@mariamedellin6288]

@@ShakariDarkFlames lol it's the same in the south, but in the weirdo that hides when alarms go off.

[@morganbiddlecom]

To quote my Ohioan's friend's ancient grandma, "What? Are you scared to die?"

[@icantfindaflippingoriginal4820]

RIP

[@juliusroman8616]

Morgan Biddlecom to quote me : "YES"

[@Imagin8io]

I actually clapped when the little guy managed to get the roach!

[@stuckbetweenfandoms5138]

So did I!

[@theroyalwolves3231]

Me to

[@dayanamartinez2141]

Me too it is just so good news

[@YaoiFan22]

14:25 I actually cheered, hands in the air, for the little one. That rarely ever happens.

[@nikkimickey12]

I hope the little special needs gecko makes it. I'm rooting for the little guy

[@emilygrigry99]

Light Fury in the comments she just posted a little update on them

[@jaclynmoon9292]

I'm pretty sure the gecko only has enigma syndrome it should be okay and live a happy life with the correct care

[@fraud_6068]

🔄🔄🔄

[@SaturnsSerenade]

I have to hold back the instinct to name it

[@Curd_led_milk]

HE IS LOOPY HIS NAME IS LOOPY

[@carrieseymour5197]

Emily: "We're not sure if he's ever going to have any appetite" Wonky little dragon: eats better than his healthy brother Speaking of wonky little reptiles, can we have an update on the shoelace with the cleft lip?

[@carrieseymour5197]

@PinkyBelle YT No, there was a scaleless baby with a cleft lip this year. Last update we had on that clutch, the little guy hadn't been persuaded to eat.

[@McSticarus]

@@carrieseymour5197 oh yeah, I hope he's okay. He is buttflap baby, as Emily called him.

[@carrieseymour5197]

@@McSticarus He was actually in a recent video about their holdback snakes from 2019. He's doing great and ready to be rehomed once the weather's warm enough to ship him.

[@tiachandler4480]

I freaking love when Charles puts the subtitles for the animals talking to one another or acting like they are talking to you LMMFAO it's to funny

[@battlebear437]

Charles? Who is Charles?

[@kallarae927]

@@battlebear437 Charles is their editor for the fan mail, but I believe that Emily edits the rest unlike what OP is saying.

[@battlebear437]

@@kallarae927 at the time of this video, they hadn’t named him yet, so I was surprised. At the time, i thought Ed and Emily did all the editing. I finally did see the video where they mention him...lol

[@kallarae927]

@@battlebear437 ahh that makes sense! Glad everything is cleared up lol!

[@smollpotato6791]

Emily: Dunno if this one is gonna make it... Baby: (Eat's by himself) Emily's mind:WHAT!?

[@racheldupuis9558]

Yeah I was like : go go go!

[@calamitynatalie8590]

I can’t get over the sense of joy and relief I felt when that lil guy ate the roach! How exciting!

[@OliviaRosentreter]

I love the videos, and I also love how Emily says stuff is so sassy with the little tiny gecko. I really hope he makes it.

[@paytenhumphrey4896]

Going outside during a tornado siren, such a midwestern thing 😂

[@khaleesi90-08]

Best time to go out, make sure to bring camera just in case

[@bronwynhughes8026]

Storm chasers as well??????

[@rachelcatherine2372]

Bronwyn Hughes Not exactly. Tornadoes sirens means a funnel cloud has been spotted and is moving through the area. Funnel clouds are tornadoes that haven't dropped it's tail on land. Most of the Midwestern people usually take a quick glance out the window/door to check it out.

[@robertmoore1123]

I know I'm from Kansas . I live in ark now night before last we had warnings and sirens going of all over the country I just went to bed no big deal lol

[@Blutkatze]

So this was actually a Tornado Warning Siren? I was wondering if they had Sirens for Thunderstorms or so, since they really seem so calm! I'm from Germany and we don't have a "loud" storm warning system here, usually get the warning via radio/app.

[@xx0124xx]

I’m rooting for the lil runt! He can do it!!!

[@MrMiki819]

Yeah, he can do it!!!

[@sarahvanrooyen7280]

I hope the kinked tail one lives, he's so cute

[@mohammadtahboubmt]

Yeah

[@mohammadtahboubmt]

I hope

[@aliviataulbee5719]

Yeah

[@kaitlin6184]

That little deformed baby reminds me of our foster kitten right now, her name is Roo and was extremely premature but is doing great!

[@UrMom-ls6bl]

i hope she is doing great

[@kaitlin6184]

zijarisrrodrigues peres, she is!! She actually just went to her forever home! She got a special home that can adapt to her needs. Bitter sweet, we will miss her😊

[@madalyn2260]

when the goop jumped out on the camera it literally scared me so bad

[@HypurrHazerdious]

same, I legit flinched like I was about to get hit in the eye XD

[@SneezyReptar]

HyperHazerdious same

[@thehillfamily526]

I understand that feeling, it almost made me fall of my couch. xD

[@marquishabrabson7097]

Lol ha

[@pheobeplayzroblox2969]

c u m.

[@isabellanemec107]

Same. The little buddy is sooooooo cute!!! I hope the little buddy's tail grows back right.

[@lt7231]

Is it bad that I was whispering “come on little guys you can do it!” All through out the eating clip? Nah

[@binxthejinx2696]

Is it bad that I'm nine and love her vids Nah

[@louisetimmins2748]

Me to 😄😄😄😄

[@yukifoxdemon]

I may have literally pumped my fist in the air when the little gecko ate

[@heysaucemikehere1804]

Josiah Noriega Why did you put your age?

[@bearsdaily6486]

Hes sadly very unlikely to live

[@orcadork4ever]

I am a simple woman. I see Snake Discovery update, I click.

[@evelyngilliam4187]

I love Emily's and Ed's excitement when he ate

[@isabellamerrigan8074]

"grandpa grandpa tell us a story" "well when i was a baby i was born in a sauce container" "wooooooooooooooow what where we born in" " a KFC mac and cheese container" "wooooooooowwwww reeeeally cool" dont know why but thats what i thought

[@its._cheslie]

Isabella Merrigan That was very funny 😂

[@kayleytaylor7539]

I do like cats

[@isabellamerrigan8074]

Amber Becerra absolutely

[@Acedoescrochet]

Amber Becerra well of course!

[@theoneandonly1158]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@myalynn9560]

*sirens going off* Emily: Eh oh well look at these cool lizards!

[@bobatemycheese9998]

That's the Midwest babey

[@royyagness02]

“dont die dont get strucked by lightning"😂😂😂

[@kookiechu4453]

the baby false chameleon every second: YEET IM GONNA RUN EVERYWHERE

[@MrMiki819]

XD

[@animemusicluver1]

"if I move slow enough she won't see me escape" *Ten seconds later* *Oh no!" 😂

[@amberrider8749]

I CANNOT BELIEVE I WATCHED YOUR VIDS FOR SO LONG AND DIDN'T REALIZE I WASN'T SUBBED! but i remember i did, strangeee

[@silverserienty9384]

*baby false chameleon runs across screen* Me: NYOOM

[@apollo_ire]

Omg the tiny gecko 😭 he’s too cute. I hope he grows up.

[@A_Wee_spook]

they gave an update and the cutie is doing well.

[@beansalad1921]

@ghost That's cool! I'm new to the channel so I really haven't seen many of these videos so I appreciate your reply

[@A_Wee_spook]

@@beansalad1921 💜💜💜

[@crystalheart9]

I didn't see the lizard on your shoulder until she moved! Awwwww, the baby is so cute!

[@kurtstritar9368]

Emily: he's so tired from hatching. False chameleon: I WILL prove you wrong!

[@jethrofrack2591]

Your d m I hat u

[@istanpointlessfightme8453]

@Jethro Frack learn how to spell

[@xxbluuejay]

“we totally just looked at you down there and you didn’t even mind” 😂😂

[@calamitynatalie8590]

julia x lol, then there my cat who likes to sit spread eagle in front of me, no matter what I’m doing and looks at himself down there...he certainly doesn’t mind! 😂😂😂

[@xxbluuejay]

Calamity Natalie i have a cat who does the same thing!! she gives no fucks 😂😂

[@alissachisolm2460]

Aww-! I've got a midnight blizzard leo! What a cute little one. I've only ever seen one midnight blizzard so it's cool to see em!!

[@olliehughes1342]

That looks like a darker Snow, or more likely a Midnight Blizzard mixed with some other pattern. The dark or “eclipsed” eyes are a positive sign of it being a Blizzard.

[@emmeryveneklasen2607]

"I'll probably just feed him baby roaches" BABY FIGHTS

[@Tri69420]

The leopard gecko with a kinked tail looks adorable when he/she looks up

[@amekumorinVT]

Did anyone else jump when the liquid came out of the egg? 😂

[@yamiryushi]

Yes, now I'm wearing my coffee.

[@riannekuilder7374]

@@yamiryushi lol 😂

[@laramaaike3050]

I scared my cats with me falling backwards.

[@MasterOofmagnetism]

NO

[@mscameron22]

7:36 🤭🤭

[@coldbloodedcompanions8808]

The baby false Chameleon is adorable when he eats.

[@beautifuldisaster1336]

I think the tiny leopard gecko is a Murphy's morph. I have one of my own and she looks kinda like that one. Her name is Twiggy. I have an albino raptor too named Woods. And yes, Ed. It probably would grow back if it loses part of it's tail. It may die if it doesn't happen because they store their leftover calcium. It may be hard to store it due to less space in the tail since it is kinked. (Though it may have passed already.)

[@user-ge7io7cj1z]

When there's a tornado warning, do you have to bring all the snakes down into the basement? Do you go shelter with Rex? I imagine that would be a really big hassle lol

[@Charlie-ql1wi]

they did a video on what they do in case of emergencies, and they live far enough north that they don’t really get tornadoes :)

[@Ains-zt6zg]

Charlie hmmm interesting

[@lauraosullivan1378]

What about a Ferrell animal going nuts?

[@user-ge7io7cj1z]

Charlie oh, ok, thanks! I live in Minnesota too, and while tornadoes are very rare, they have happened before, so I wasn’t sure if they had a protocol just in case.

[@yunaleek3251]

Does she even have a basement?

[@ProbBugEaten]

Please keep us updated on the little baby leopard!!! I wanna know how he makes out!!

[@kodapeterson3864]

Babey he’s a super snow and he’s doing good according to their update 😊

[@ProbBugEaten]

@@kodapeterson3864 i seen the update!! A super snow is such an interesting morph :)

[@rachelquinn9458]

They are so cute and u guys are so funny! Ed makes me laugh every time with his angry baby voice lol

[@cravensravens]

Emily: *John Hammond voice* "ive been present for the birth of every little creature in this park"

[@morgangobin9985]

I literally let out an involuntary squeal when I saw the notification! More adorable babies! 😃

[@makinley.s]

I have watch this video many times and I can STILL not get over the little baby eyes!!

[@andrd9522]

The leopard gecko with it's head poking out is a blizzard morph

[@drbellatrix]

Woahhhh really :O

[@andrd9522]

@@drbellatrix yeah I'm not an expert but I did research on them before I got mine

[@signup4146]

Geks_r_awesome I ONLY LIKE SNAKES IM HET HYBINO *ANGRY HISSSSS* GUESS WHAT SNEEEEEKKKK I AM *weirdly friendly hisss*

[@springbokkie_center9399]

and the second one looks like a fat tailed gecko

[@ZoologyFan2023]

@@signup4146 Hmmm... Hognose snake? :3

[@larryzeitlin6444]

Name him Harry, then you can say you’re a lizard Harry (don’t judge, love your vids btw)

[@larryzeitlin6444]

Like the video if you love Snake Discovery 😻

[@firenadoproductions]

Yes, best one

[@b21.9]

🤣🤣🤣

[@larryzeitlin6444]

Ember Gyre: joke Me: laughs in lizard

[@scarletthread4921]

Omg yes

[@xxpuns4everxx713]

oooh pickle rick hanging out in the branch!!! ✨✨😮😮

[@zwinny0408]

That one baby was like *"I'm fast! I'm very fast!!"*

[@deemariedubois4916]

Oh my goodness, those are the cutest things I have ever seen even the special little guy is adorable. He’s so tiny. Great video, thanks.

[@LiamBlakePodcaster]

The captions giving voices to the reptiles might just be the best thing ive ever seen! XD

[@beccablum4039]

When the stuff shot out of the egg i felt some sort of liquid in my eye😂😂😁😁😆😆😃😃

[@loveyourstargirl]

Huh,wow

[@jenniferfyffe5775]

Ha! The power of suggestion lol!

[@nastyhotline]

It's called a tear

[@hollowaychris77]

L jumped like it was gonna get me

[@rachelkunz611]

I love the False Chameleon!!!! And thoes Leopard Gecko's were really beautiful! Even the one with the kinked tail. I like his tail, gives him character.

[@minecraftbee5815]

Emily: *puts sticks up for baby false chameleon* Pickle Rick: *hello*

[@terryperry8636]

I just love you guys. Never in a million years did I ever think I would fall in love with reptiles but I found you on KZbin and got very excited about the new babies and I joined What Snake is this? Florida and I now want a corn snake and a hognose. 😍

[@sagenspice4889]

Nature: Survival of the fittest Emily: No, all shall live happily with me. >:D Honestly, Emily is the best when it comes to hatching eggs in my opinion! :D

[@drbellatrix]

Emily is the best reptile mom

[@sagenspice4889]

Yes she is, I've been watching her since a months after she started :D And her smile as contagious even in these tough times!

[@crestedgeckoart6827]

I agree and dose anyone ever wonder how Emily started beading animals

[@rosedoeden9952]

@@sagenspice4889 yeah it rly is

[@thehillfamily526]

I love how the very young and bit weak one kept spinning it made me feel so, beaten by cuteness シ

[@lovablc6059]

Me : about to go to sleep Snake discovery : uploads Me ; who needs sleep :/

[@averysad_carrot7487]

Awwwww that one very small gecko walks like a tiny dog🥺 I LOVE HIM ❤️🦎

[@Greengirl2034]

Yes it will

[@angelalucito2740]

When the geckos grow they start to develop a little smile

[@leegrass6954]

You are amazing! The love ❤️ you pour into your reptiles really shows in their behavior. Unlike most housing and breeding these creatures, you can really see the difference in their calmness and attitude. Also the fact you house so many together shows them to be happier and healthier! ❤️👍👍

[@secretperson5946]

I want a False Chameleon so bad. They look so cool and seem super docile! They are super cute young and old!!

[@tahsat966]

I saw the notif and SCREAMED!!! ALL THE BABIES!!!! I MUST SEE THEM ALL!!!!!!!

[@ellesreptiles]

Oh my goodness they're so cute! 😍😍😍 Such awesome creatures! ♥️

[@ellesreptiles]

Scuba Diver Derek Well thank you! 😊

[@minecraftbee5815]

To make your day better, you call baby snakes snakelets ♥️

[@cho7879]

i almost cried when that baby gecko ate

[@LinceSensei]

He is so derpy

[@jfloyd2219]

Who LOVES to see reptiles hatching 👇🏻

[@delilahspiderstep8251]

J Floyd it’s so cool!

[@calleerikssonwejlin9071]

J Floyd who dosen't!!!!!!

[@makaylahmorgenstern191]

How about reply's hatching??!? 🤣🤣🤣 I'll shut up now🙄🙄

[@sythepie]

I'll just reply instead of like

[@Elkrim]

Best unboxing videos, by far.

[@stars-placenta]

Ahe does this allll the tiiiiimmeeee, abd i watch it allll the tiiiiiimmeee but it never loses its cuteness

[@deputydawgoneit]

1:42 "I'm just seven hours old Truly beautiful to behold"

[@Rat2rrj]

Every lizard secretly wants cheerleader energy at their first meal

[@katrinaduquette6062]

I totally clapped for the gecko when he got the roach. 👏 👏

[@Lyeah73]

wow I'm never this early! I love you guys!! keep up the good work..some of the kids on my bus watch as well! we talk about your channel all the time..you have no idea how many young minds you are enriching by your friendly approachable take on reptiles! thank you!

[@Miranda-ph5dt]

congratulations on your successful little lizard babies!

[@christiantwist3360]

14:23 I love how leopards’ tails twitch right before they strike. It’s so funny.

[@jeannecabral5300]

I like that gecko because he's special in his own way

[@kellykell121]

Aww congrats on the babies guys. They are gorgeous. I would love a leopard gecko one day.

[@kayden_g10]

That little animal on your shoulder is so cute!!!!

[@reptilerant173]

Lol, pickle Rick on the stick.

[@lexijarecki9398]

I’m rooting for the little gecko with the kinked tail! I love him/her very much! He/she reminds me of my gecko who was also born with a kinked tail. It’s not as severe as his/hers, but it’s still noticeable from a distance. The first few weeks I had her she was very weak and lethargic, but after the 3rd week, she’s been happy and healthy ever since! Her tail doesn’t affect her health or daily life in any way, it just makes her look different. Hope this helps! - Ps: I named her Stubbs, and on Dec. 8th, she’ll be a year old!

[@JuniorPsychonaut]

I hope Miss Stubbs is doing alright nowadays!

[@nicolamaynard3461]

does anyone else think this is so cute😍😍 I'm in love with him

[@caseysulok5358]

I legit "yay!"ed when the baby ate the roach!

[@Beepboopwigglewiggle]

False Chameleon: *looks tired* Emily: aww he’s so tired from hatching ówò False chameleon: HA SIKE!

[@bopbunny2868]

... I'm gonna cry. They are so cute😍 beautiful parents and babies

[@ShannonK3884]

I screAmed "YAYYYYY!" when the little guy grabbed the roach!!!!