Baby Monkeys Injured in Fight // Vera Meets New Foster Moms - Vervet Forest - S2 Ep18

Vervet Forest - Season 2 - Episode 18 - At the Vervet Monkey Foundation, a wildlife conservation & animal rescue sanctuary Kendyll and Nala are settling in nicely with their foster moms. Cookie & Edgar meet the DnD moms in the intro enclosure. Update on the Skrow babies. Dougie gets a mom. Vera moves to Goliath where she meets new moms. Django a new baby boy arrives. Cookie and Edgar are injured in a bandit fight. An update on all the Disneyland babies.
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The Vervet Forest is a wildlife rehab series focused on Vervet Monkeys at the Vervet Monkey Foundation . The series showcases the process of taking orphaned and injured vervet monkeys through a foster mother program which helps these rescued orphan baby monkeys to be adopted by foster mother monkeys. The show is for fans of animal planet, nat geo, discovery and anyone who is an animal lover, loves animals and would like to be part of helping them get back to the wild.
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*These animals are not pets they are rescued wildlife undergoing a rehabilitation program at the Vervet Monkey Foundation in South Africa*

[@picketfence2028]

There is something incredibly gratifying to watch an orphan baby monkey run right into mommas arms. :')

[@quki3]

Picket Fence I agree. 4:20 in this video. I melted.

[@Cpc333]

I cannot get enough of the babies calls . They are the cutest most unique animal vocalizations I've ever heard. Absolutely love it.

[@kountrykrazy4887]

Have ya heard the Reesus Maqque Call its like a screach then 2 highpitched coos I also cant get enough my buddy had one 20yrs ago if would get punished IT would be a thump to those big ears lolol

[@kratkyhomesteader9043]

I agree. Could listen all day long!

[@Gary-And-His-Demons]

It really is a cute sound, considering that they make it when they are scared or mad. Considering it's not exactly a happy sound, it really is cute!

[@onlyhumanstillananimal6746]

3:20 That kid was petrified!! I love how the females don't give a damn where the babies came from, how old they are, how scared they are, etc. They approach and just wanna comfort those orphaned babies and wants to love and cuddle them to death. So sweet. Those maternal instincts run DEEP, don't they. Just awesome. Love your guys' videos. Always look forward to new ones. Thank you for your channel and for helping these intriguing animals that wouldn't have a future otherwise. Very commendable work, all of you, total Heros!

[@bbj7375]

Kyle you are a blessing to animals and primates. Without you it would be hard. Keep up the great work. Since I'm too far I will donate very soon.😃🙏🙏🙏🐒🐵🐒🐵🐒🐵

[@misskimpegues]

I hope all 3 babies do heal quickly an I am Glad that the team is there to care for them .. Thank you

[@TheTriamac]

I’m so happy when I see the paetreon list grows !! Love all you at VMF !!❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@773Tonya]

Aww Cookie was so cute, she wanted some of that mama lovin. She was just lip smackin away at Shanae.

[@juliew1426]

Those two little guys in the baby cabin w/ their bandaged up arms. A little sad, but so sweet, the way they cling to each other. It's like, "We'll get through this together, Dude."

[@FastNCurious88]

Julie W ☺️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@onlyhumanstillananimal6746]

Great comment!!!

[@quietinspirationcreations3448]

OMG! When Cookie came up and asked to join the fun, my heart melted, and Edgar nearly falling asleep while upside down, being "Butt-groomed" was awesome! Another amazing episode, Kyle, thank you!

[@kb9847]

oh my heart! It's so amazing watching them with each other. Thank you so much for sharing this journey of their lives. I look forward to every episode, and I'm more than happy to watch through every commercial, even the 5 min ones, haha. :)

[@VervetMonkey]

The Helpful Assistant lol, well thanks! But you only need to watch at least 30 seconds of the commercial, no way I’d ask you to sit through a 5 min long one, unless it’s enjoyable lol. But yeah, 30 seconds counts the same as 5 min, I think.

[@kris10rose68]

Oh my that is the cutest thing I have ever seen..Edger and his new friend hugging each other with their bandages! Poor cookie looks like she is living up to her name because she is one tough Cookie!! Lol I know I'm a big dork!!!

[@yukey2587]

I really appreciate that the Vervet Monkey Foundation re-introduces babies to moms and monkey families. Especially the Dougies. I wish more "pet" monkeys could go back to the wild. It's where they belong.

[@peacefulheart9348]

Great job you guys, love that it is so natural and gentle on these animals. 👍 Make calendars please.

[@Cokobae]

Django and Edgar all hugged up 😢❤️...

[@lauriemartin2237]

Thank you for your wonderful contributions to these little precious delightful babies, what a wonderful group of dedicated people ! If this does not make your ❤️ swell up with joy nothing will, you guys are doing such important work with publishing awareness, this would be so cool on the discovery Channel, it's right up there with the Merecats, I wish you guys continued success with your foundation,Bless all of you Wonderful people, for all the hard work and True Love you show these little angels, You guys are Saints! Great Video!❤️💖💞

[@onlyhumanstillananimal6746]

I agree. I never would have even known what the lives of babies in the care of idiot humans was like and how unhealthy the whole situation was. Never would have known anything about it, or how the majority of day old/week old, babies actually become available for human "mothers" to take possession of. It's sickening. So, I wanna thank everyone involved as well. Without your work, I never would have been exposed to the daily fight between these animals and human poachers, or joined the difficult effort to educate more people and prevent this kind of thing from occurring in the future. Many thanks to everyone!

[@heatherlongacre4246]

Thank you for another great episode! I was thoroughly amused with how fast Angelica lip smacks. In a lake of row boats, she is the ultimate speed boat. I don't know how, but these babies keep getting cuter.

[@shellyscott187]

The foster moms are so great.. Shanay almost had me in tears hugging Edgar and Cookie.

[@FastNCurious88]

Shelly Scott almost had the worker in tears too :’)

[@kylelarge3669]

Cookie went right in!!!! That made me so happy to see that it was a beautiful moment

[@emutak1218]

Thank you Kyle for another amazing episode!

[@jadkiss827]

4:21 Now that is sweet! I haven't seen a baby foster mom sync up like that before.

[@sharondavis8393]

Aw i hope vera finds a mom

[@solars9656]

Isnt there anything you can do to limit the fights? Poor Edgar and Cookie! I was sitting here saying "Oh Vera!" when she started going off again.

[@VervetMonkey]

Solar S nope, wild animals will be wild animals, it’s just the way it goes 🤷‍♂️🙂

[@Baby-Ghoul444]

i flippin love django's face its so cuuuutee!

[@robjohnson1138]

Edgar and Django look at each other... Look at each others’ bandages. “TWINSIES!!” Then hugs.

[@diannebdee]

Man my girl Vera is making it hard to find a mommy. Vera honey it's not all that bad sweetie. You gotta find a mommy. Hugs to Django, Gabe and all the rest in the recovery cabin.

[@ElizabethT45]

The poor sweetie got rejected by so many Moms, no wonder she's wary. I hope she accepts Halo!

[@diannebdee]

@@ElizabethT45 Oh me too. My heart just goes out to her. I just want to scoop her up and hold her. I'd be her mama.

[@alisalauzon9291]

Aw the 2 boys all banged up at least have each other as they heal up! That is to bad about these troop fights causing injurys.. Then thier were 3 to heal up together. Poor little Gabe fighting help every inch of the way..

[@tinama4133]

I love the look Bell gets when she eats she closes her eyes and just gets this awww foooood coma face. I laugh every time

[@MegaMindyLou]

Best foster mom intro ever!

[@cd1673]

Oh Vera! 🙄 you need to play The Young and the Restless theme when you edit her 😁😉 Thank you again for such a great peek into such a giving place. Well done you guys!!👍😊❤

[@ilikecats10]

thank you for filming this .learning a LOT .

[@thepatriotpartyofamerica]

I don’t understand how people can hurt these babies

[@kratkyhomesteader9043]

The injuries are heartbreaking - precious tiny tykes with no understanding of why they are injured, why they are in pain - makes me so sad for them. Hope they are given pain medication, even though they appear to tolerate pain better than we do - I don't believe they should suffer it any more than we should.

[@starseed39]

I love watching your videos Kyle you definitely made me more aware of monkeys and how they're not pets they're wild animals I saw one with someone at the mall a few months ago dressed up in clothes and thought to myself what a stupid human. that animal belongs in the wild with its own peeps LOL broke my heart. Thank you for all of the work what you guys do at the foundation. Keep up on all the hard work!

[@heatherrose2462]

Another great video and by far my favorite.

[@runedharma22]

Sweet friendship

[@IBLISE-gb7qs]

omg how cute they are

[@monicaquiroga129]

Felicitaciones por su generosa labor con estos animales preciosos

[@janicehoff2865]

Jengo and Edgar looked soo sweet holding onto each other.

[@wickedparanorma1]

Awe poor babies ❤️ prayers all gets better 🙏🏻

[@carmenenriquez184]

I am so glad I found you guys.

[@HotTakeAndy]

14:35 the little half smile Edgar gives.. oh my heart is melting! Poor little boy had just found his Momma too

[@renatezylla1421]

I always happy, when this monkey babies find her foster mother...

[@janicewebb6010]

These Vervets are really special. I'm first time seeing them. Do the adoptive Moms have their own babies too? Its just amazing how the Mothers support the babies.

[@5kiana]

I like how Shanae runs in and immediately starts lip smacking, I'm here, all is well! There is little sweeter than when a baby and foster mom bond.

[@fedupwitumboth]

Always the best videos! ❤️

[@FastNCurious88]

I think we could all use the profound lesson given to us by these incredible bonus Moms ❤️🙌🏻❤️

[@virtualworldvixen]

Little Vera is still mom-less! I hope Mrs Gold takes her

[@quki3]

Dang! Being a baby monkey is dangerous work!

[@mamasabe1w81]

This fighting and babies endangered and injured is very disturbing. They are so innocent and do not deserve the aggression.😢

[@maxine3587]

They are wild animals.

[@marshadentzan2958]

Needed something happy something uplifting something to make my world seem better thank you Kyle Notre Dame Cathedral is burning to the ground so sad

[@beverlykitts2300]

Just found your site today and I'm so very happy to have! I absolutely love it!! God bless everyone there. I do have a question. Are the foster moms lactating and do the babies nurse. Thank you in advance for your reply.

[@pussnboots1]

wow seems like they had a bad day. sounds like it was on a monday lolol just kidding.love the video's

[@nancyjodion2779]

Cute babies

[@jcastanza]

Catching up on some episodes I'd unintentionally skipped... I think that was one of the most adorable things I've seen in a while, the lipsmacking and then how she just went right in for the cuddle like she'd done it 100 times before. That was so fast! Was she probing for milk there? A few minutes later when mom moved and was sitting down it looked like she was doing it again, trying to be subtle like... they are smart little ones sometimes! ---- Q: The noise that Vera is making most of the time... I still don't get what that sound means.. and does it mean different things depending on how intense/loud they're doing it? Or when it's more rapid vs. spread out?

[@kccutter5869]

I didn’t realize the mother still breast feeds the adopted baby.

[@pamelahollier4365]

Thanks Kyle for another enjoyable, informative videos. Will the location of the new enclosure have to be changed? Thanks again, Pam

[@VervetMonkey]

Pamela Hollier Very astute question Pam, guess we’ll just have to find out in the coming episodes 😊

[@pamelahollier4365]

Vervet Monkey Foundation Okay, sorry. Guess I was too impatient!

[@azilgaard]

Question: Vera was very vocal. Her calls were confusing to me because I thought they meant "Mommy!" but then she didn't want any of the moms. So what do the sounds mean? I hope Vera did eventually get a mom.

[@lerigby2473]

Yo Kyle....great vid....dang. What's happening between the two troops???? Is it merely territory issues??? Poor babes getting a hard lesson in troop etiquettes...glad to see Vera getting at least groomed and smelled......it really was distressing to hear Vera's cries/ calls but Halo really tried more diligently....SO MUCH DRAMA EVERYWHERE??$@%÷×'"()€£&;#!$!!!!!!! OMG 😲 😲 😲 😲!!!!!!!!!! i will have to watch this vid several times to make sure i caught everything.....best wishes from your gals in N FLA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸!!!!! TILL THE NEXT DRAMA VID!!!!

[@VervetMonkey]

Le Rigby lol. The bandits are just rough tumblers. They alllllllllways fight and troops are always fighting amongst themselves too, I just don’t happen to always document and orphans don’t always get injured, but damn Vervets fighting is for sure the most common thing they do beside eating and grooming.

[@quietinspirationcreations3448]

Dang, I only caught the last 30 seconds of the Premiere, watching the playback!

[@margaretpeggymitchell3138]

they really seem to wonder what Kyle's doing

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💜

[@runedharma22]

Red and Belle look loaded

[@tonyalogan5095]

Poor baby Vera. Will she ever find a foster Mum

[@herbertsmith6416]

I agree.

[@mctron22rd]

Oh Vera, my dear sweet Vera, I know that there is wild monkey in that tiny little body of yours just screaming to get out! Forgive me, but I hope there will not be anymore babies going into the maximum security kennel, I know they will fix this situation with tarps or whatever they put their minds to. I may not understand y'alls set up there but I feel so bad for these babies! I am curious if they will go with the same foster mothers or different ones also how they will react towards different foster mothers because of the bandit Saav war. Could it have possibly been the foster mothers that injured the babies? Could the bandits have pulled the babies through the chicken wire? Those Bandits! I hope it wasn't the foster mothers as form of projective aggression toward the bandits? I seriously want to doubt that, but we know it is possibility. I am so sad that the babies where injured cuz it throws a wrench in their recovery. I am sure everyone there is also disappointed because of the set back. Hey just keep your heads up and nature will take its course with your help of course! Thank you all at The VMF from the bottom of my broken heart!

[@prestonyoung4967]

Why can't you get the babies out when they fight?

[@amkayss13]

😍🐒💜🙏😇

[@kurumais]

what was that "call" vera was making ? it didnt sound like a distress or frightened call but clearly she was not into having company.

[@crystalhume2039]

More than anything I want Vera to find a mom :(

[@kccutter5869]

Wait is red blind? Is that why we looked sluggish with his eyes

[@nakitabutler3583]

Aww who bite cookie

[@5kiana]

So, between S2 and now, has the intro enclosure been moved? It seems like that's not the best spot.

[@VervetMonkey]

We have 15 soft release enclosures and 60 intro cages which one would you think needs moving?

[@5kiana]

@@VervetMonkey the one that you mentioned in the video as being in a bad spot because it was in an area where there are sometimes fights. Ok rewatched video. 13:08. "That new intro enclosure that was built for Cookie and Edgar... That enclosure was actually in an area where there just so happen to be a lot of fights between D& D troop and the bandits." And both babies got injured during fights. It made me curious.

[@laloochie4783]

That one baby looked like it was trying to find a nipple to nurse on Shanay! Lol don’t think she has any milk little buddy

[@snapjacker6274]

Just wondering...would a lactating female accept another baby?

[@jessicat3762]

No probably not, unless she lost her baby.

[@FilmerOfBobcats]

Do the babies grip the fence mesh and cry when you let their foster moms back out after a meeting?

[@VervetMonkey]

FilmerOfBobcats if all goes right the moms don’t go back out for a long time. But I’d say it doesn’t matter who is in or out, there are times when a baby will cry no matter what. But it’s hardest for those who are most humanized.

[@user-vg6hw3ct5h]

I don't get it, on one hand there you are rehabilitating Ververt monkeys and then there is ox wagan's, "grey menace" shooting 10/ 15 in a day.

[@carolcarter5966]

How do you determine what monkeys will make good foster mom's? Do they have to have a baby of their own?

[@VervetMonkey]

No we watch there behaviour when in with an orphan

[@kccutter5869]

Why did red and the other one seem super stoned

[@quietinspirationcreations3448]

I'm curious Kyle, if you know, have some of your foster mom's had babies of their own in the past? And if so, do they actually produce milk when the babies nurse, or is it just instinctual and for comfort?

[@lerigby2473]

Merely comfort....Qt Insp....

[@quietinspirationcreations3448]

@@lerigby2473 Assumption or fact?

[@VervetMonkey]

Quiet Inspiration (Heidi) yes some of the foster moms have had their own babies in the past, but the majority have not. Lol, I swear this second question is the most asked of any comment, I think someone asks on every video. The answer is not short or simple. Well the short and simple is literally no one knows. Yes they suckle, yes it’s for comfort, do they receive milk, who knows! Hopefully one day we find out 😊

[@besinebilal]

hello kyle !

[@lynnschnakenberg3882]

I know this was last year but if y'all are still having this problem can't y'all move the cage somewhere less dangerous?

[@markjune3027]

Not to be a debbie downer, but how come you guys only show babies? What about all the different troops out there? What about home-grown babies?

[@VervetMonkey]

Mark June there are many other videos on this page about the other monkeys at our sanctuary, just gotta look around. I don’t know what you mean by “home grown” but it sounds like pets and that’s horrible.

[@loveice4849]

@@VervetMonkey I am guessing homegrown means , births that take place there. (Not orphan babies)

[@rentechpad]

Edgar and Cookie might have been nervous but that foster mom was a genius at making the right moves. One of the calmest introduction I have ever seen - more like when an distantly related monkey suddenly shows up and aftera few minutes everyone is like 'oh yeah we know you' both Cookie and Edgar seemed like after a bit she was just where she belonged and they were not freaking out at first touch it appears ..she played that who get them when one is distracted routine well so that one was not likely to panic the other. Its interesting that she went for the male first instead of the female so you have to wonder if it was really about gender or just about opportunity. I have seen this happen before when a potential adopter will wait until the babies are apart and one is distracted eating or nursing and go for the one she wants, and you know it the distinct choice she is making as the same scenario was set up but the participants reversed and the adopter simply sat it out and waiting until they changed spots. then other times it seems like as soon as one is out of the picture a adopter will go for whatever one is available. Maybe it depends on the Mom .. "I just want a baby so I will get my hands on the first one I can" or "I have a specific type of baby I am looking to adopt so I will bide my time.". Its time like this when you can be pretty impressed by just how much complex though and actual plotting is going on. We have actually has time when its [pretty evident that the adopters showing interest decide among themselves just whoo is getting a chance, or even who is getting who before a door is even opened. And we can open up for one, thinking we are making the best pick, only to have the adopters flip over each other and send in one we thought would be the best case scenario. They are not always right and sometimes their choices through the fence don't [pan out at all. We did have one interesting time when we had abandoned twins or at least we got 2 newborns so young that the cord were not complete dry with the report they were with a dead mother. They attracted a great deal of attention from moms without babies but when we started trying to let moms in they all backed away from the door until a mom who never adopted before and whole a decent rank in the roupe form what we could tell was a bit of a introverted female to the point of being shy (hard to know ho she ranked as high as she did but the other monkeys seem to really love her). Outside the door the other females kept jostling her to the door and we were wondering if they actually wanted her to have a first chance - and we were not real hopeful as these two rally acted like twins and we actually didn't see them taking well to separate mothers - although they really had no choice in the long run. We had had several moms that had adopted more than one at at a time - often a bit older and not as needy but we were hopeful. Every time we tried to let a female we thought would be good in she would back away and they would jostle this other female to the door. Finally as she was against the door we gave in and opened the door, and actually left in open opening an experienced mom or two would follow her but no one did. this shy female went in and immediately went to an upper corner and hid under a tarp and we were like 'oh this is not good". It actually turned out perfectly as both babies ended up getting over being freaked by someone that was totally more interested in a tarp tent then in them and they soon started approaching er and getting in her face. Although some other females came and went. seeming to demonstrate some things like bottom checking. Within within about 72 hours shy female was beautifully handling two babies like she had been doing it forever. Once out in the troupe we saw her getting a lot of help from other females as two babies that young can be a job but she was a pretty amazing mother except for her quirk of never letting then go alone to the feeding cage. She would go with then and sit on the cage and monitor them and when they were done round then up and take them back into the woods. Maybe her way of feeling like she was feeding them too :)

[@BoilerBloodline]

So has Kyle moved on or is he just doing another job for the monkeys these days?

[@VervetMonkey]

yes he has moved on and back in the US

[@lerigby2473]

Are Gabe's eating issues due to being such a premie infant......???? Just a thought......

[@VervetMonkey]

Le Rigby dunno, don’t even know if he was premature. He came from a family who was keeping him as a pet so his condition could have easily been due to malnutrition and infection.

[@areyouserious4713]

On the weird part of the youtube again ..

[@VervetMonkey]

I've seen weirder...

[@susanmiller1678]

Do the foster moms breastfeed the babys

[@jacksonwong1039]

Monkeys are being captured and sent to science laboratory.. why rescuers don’t take actions and let those monkeys be brutally tortured!!!!?

[@naimanr4118]

Хочу смотреть только бибизян, а не дядьку

[@jeffamb]

u like showing your face huh?

[@adametz8460]

???

[@beccaann8573]

I wish they wld bring Kyle back. I understand why they say they don't want the show to be about it's host, but I don't hardly watch anymore as it's not near as well put together and at the end of the day I think financial for them, to put their ego aside would be best and not got rid of him. It sounded like an ego thing to me

[@VervetMonkey]

We did not get rid of Kyle, Kyle was a volunteer his visa ran out and he had to go home

[@EmmaDee]

@@VervetMonkey my gosh you all are so much nicer than I’d have the patience to be with comments that are based solely on assumptions. It drives me crazy and it’s like people say they thought so much of Kyle yet they wanted him to volunteer the rest of his life. Kyle being a man, obviously had to get on with the next chapters of his young life but negative Nancy always has to look for something negative.

[@michaelhollon5332]

💙