Hannah Goes Off During Men Tell All - The Bachelorette

[@stellashepherd844]

My problem with Luke was that he kept refusing to hear her tell him to leave. She said no. She said leave. He kept pushing. That was disturbing.

[@200991602]

Disturbed as well. He is pushy and domineering , he wants complete control. He is not respecting her decisions.

[@200991602]

I used to work at a hospital at night and see these women in emergency badly beaten by domineering husbands. What really caught my eye was how these men all had this religious narcissism going on with all their self righteous ranting. These type of men don't let women to have their own thoughts in their head, they are so egotistical they are actually affronted when a woman stands up for herself. They are potentually very dangerous and can lead to physical violence.

[@200991602]

Luke is a stalker, he doesn't listen to the word " NO " , that is a sign of BPD or worse. Most women don't like pushy men, most women like someone who is easy going and listens.

[@200991602]

I don't think he would ever understand either. Women don't need confrontation day in and day out, because it wears down the nerves , as it would anyone. The drama is too much.

[@nothingbutintroverted4372]

Jim Johnson wow really Jim? If he liked her so much he should have respected her then

[@reematigga3258]

Chris Harrison in the end...asking Luke if that made sense to him was hilarious...

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Reema Tigga to stop the conversation he just answered yes, coz she won’t stop defending and defending and defending, overreacting, sigh

[@jeffreya.patterson6210]

Luke escaped a bullet even though he had issues.. Say what you like, the past is the past, but no man wants another man dipping in the pudding after you just met her going forward. Especially on The Bachellorette. Other bachelorettes have been way more classy. she seems loose with lots of baggage. She did sleep around alot.. Just sayin

[@j3346]

His Presence she honestly didn’t sleep around a lot though

[@madonatadros2041]

Truuuueeee LOL.

[@bnr.1998]

caycug1 and I oop-

[@sydney6363]

1. dylan and the other boys hyping her up when she said “maybe you don’t know bc you didn’t get one” 2. chris looking at her like a proud dad 3. EVERYONE clapping BUT luke

[@giarhodes1976]

@@OrdoAbChao-kg5rf 'sexual market value' that's a new one... She doesn't care because it doesn't distinguish his character and how he represents or portrays himself. He's trying to mould her into something she isn't. As you have said 'that man just wanted to make sure she cared', its up to her what the wants to care about you can't force someone. She's investing to remember works both ways. They aren't compatible and rightly so.

[@OrdoAbChao-kg5rf]

@@giarhodes1976 No, that really is not a new concept nor term...unlike the "newspeak" going on currently in our social climate. Also regardless of the way the show is built she is not the prize for she is already past the prime of age and men in their 30s are barely in their prime. Men are the prize. This is why we have so many men Awakening to the fact and going their own way...and most women and feminists hate what we've realized and they hate even MORE that we're not playing their game. Most men are an asset, women are liabilities. For example I know it sounds abrasive, but women are the majority of consumers in the market. I don't know how many times I've witnessed that some women feel that they are entitled to access their current boyfriend's money home and property... You can see why this would be some problematic issue if one were to get married without a prenuptial agreement. Yeah well, the thing is that most women ask questions like "where are all the good men?". The answer to that (because most women are not too self-aware either because they're disingenuous or are really lacking) you pass them all up in your twenties when you were too busy on the cock carousel and now that you've hit the wall you want a man of high value when you have not valued yourself as highly. FOH with that compatibility argument... because we don't love these hoes.

[@applesbananas5193]

@@OrdoAbChao-kg5rf you sound dumb lol

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Don't you feel bad Luke P had to hang around with those losers for so long.

[@Emmewithrow]

She’s in multiple relationships. Not just him. I have never heard anyone slut shame the bachelors for sleeping with multiple of the girls on their season. The show has been running for how long?? He should know what happens at the end of the season.

[@pepperandpotion]

Exactly... I have been telling everyone the same thing as well

[@nataliec1964]

You do know that people have came on this show before and chose to not have sex during the fantasy suites week, right? A lot of people on the show do have sex but going on the bachelorette/bachelor doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to have sex. In this case, Luke stated that he had made the choice to stay celibate due to his beliefs, so he was likely assuming that Hannah (who also claims to be a Christian) was in agreement with him on this issue, but just wanted to be sure. Unfortunately, he soon discovered that Hannah uses being a Christian as a justification to do as she pleases because according to her, Jesus still loves her.

[@Emmewithrow]

Clearly they can. It’s not just about sex. But he shouldn’t of been surprised if it happened or even asked her the way he did. This show had been running for years HE should of assumed it could of been a possibility. Just because a person is Christian doesn’t mean you are pure. Lol He assumed wrong and it doesn’t make her any less Christian. So not only are people slut shaming her they aren’t finding her to be Christian because she has sex before marriage??

[@anonymous-io6zg]

He didnt slut shame. He expressed HIS PERSONAL OPINION..bei mng honest and real andnot what she wanted to hear..Those are the facts!!!!

[@kjron1548]

He also ya the right to ask who’s she slept with. It is a relationship after all. She didn’t have to freak out about him asking all he wanted to know is if she’s fucking one of the guys. If I knew she was close with 4 men I would have asked the same thing.

[@natalieraeann]

Dylan and connors reaction to “you didn’t have one so maybe you don’t know” is the BEST

[@hallebaldwin36]

I love how bold and confident Hannah is, she may not be perfect but I think she made a perfect bachelorette

[@Ms.Mewitdabullshit]

She was the worst bachelorette bc she behaved like a little high school girl, and the moment anyone would call her out, she would have a temper tantrum 😂 She was the perfect example of what not to do. That season was THE BACHELOR as LUKE as the star, and she allowed it...

[@-Lily7415]

I was surprised that she was still so angry at Luke after months being removed from the situation. I can only imagine what Jed has coming.

[@brulee5741]

Well, maybe it just got resurfaced as she was watching it, seeing the behind the scenes.

[@briannao9251]

Also The Men Tell All was the first time she saw Luke P (& the rest of the guys there) since she kicked him out of the rose ceremony in Greece

[@MimiMimi-zj2hc]

Luke and her also got into a Twitter war when the fantasy suite episode aired, so she had to be even more ticked to see him

[@emilyseifriz4601]

Brittaney Rossi the men tell all was filmed before that twitter fight took place

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Jill G. She can’t move on

[@sydney7701]

Hannah is a perfect example of a girl caught in a toxic relationship. That boys like Luke can reel us in, bait us, and gaslight us. Their relationship showed girls how easy it is to get caught in a scary relationship with a boy that pretends to love us & is manipulative. I’m glad girls are seeing what can happen and to be careful.

[@emeraldpeony]

🥺

[@emeraldpeony]

The fact that he pretended to share her beliefs just to use them against her for HIS OWN benefit.

[@OliviaRValle]

@@emeraldpeony I really don't think having standards on sex and purity is a bad thing. I personally wouldn't want to get engaged to someone who had just had sex with one or more people.

[@emeraldpeony]

@@OliviaRValle i agree or used to at least. Now i am just at a point where someone’s past shouldn’t matter, what matters is us together right now.

[@mac8827]

@@OliviaRValle true. However, then he shouldn’t have been on that show. There are other places he can find a partner that has his standards.

[@jbird795]

The girls in the audience wearing the “Jesus still loves me” with a windmill on it SENT MEEE

[@lolashuster1407]

Honestly I think hannah is the best bachelorette that has ever been. She's so strong and smart and fun and kind but not afraid to speak her truth. I really admire that about her

[@daniel_sc1024]

Luke P's story was all over the place. First he crashed the rose ceremony to "have closure," but later said he was there to win her back, and then we find out via the host he was there with a ring and was going to propose. She was right to call him narcissistic - as he was walking away from that last rose ceremony he mumbled "I don't understand." The other thing I notice about him is every time Hannah or Chris had a negative reaction to, or questioned something he said, he would try to change his story by saying they didn't understand what he meant.

[@anjalibhakta5373]

'does that make sense' 💀

[@Yartarb]

anjali bhakta 😂😂😂

[@realzoir]

Bruhh 💀😆

[@gilliangrossman9478]

Hannah is one of the most mature and grown bachelorettes that came from a season of the bachelor. She speaks beautifully

[@miraculouslady632]

Gillian Grossman, No. She's very immature and her voice is painfully annoying.

[@briannap3666]

I can’t be the only one that understands where Luke P is coming from. He does not articulate himself well but it would bother me if a guy that I love slept with multiple women a week before a proposal and it is a sin to have sex before marriage, yes I think you should do what you want but Luke has a right to live his life by the Bible cause that’s what we’re all supposed to be doing and from I understood to be slut shaming this sure wasn’t it.

[@dmsjt5181]

The point is, if you have a problem with that, don’t go on the bachelor or the bachelorette. It’s not the same as a regular relationship where you’re committed to one person the whole time. The commitment doesn’t come til the end. It would bother me like crazy and I would be super jealous, but that’s why I’d never go on the show, in addition to the fact that I’m happily married anyway.

[@dmsjt5181]

Jim Johnson I don’t think the numbers are as high as she’s portraying, but I will say after being in 3 private, closed fb groups with hundreds of women for each of my pregnancies, there is a shocking number of men who cheat on their significant others either days before or after she gives birth to their child. I never knew before that it was this bad.

[@sunshinegirl6854]

yes!

[@dmsjt5181]

Jim Johnson just research “percentage of men who cheat”. The numbers range from 50-72%. That’s way higher than 20.

[@dmsjt5181]

Jim Johnson how many sources did you check? I saw one that said 20%. I looked at around a dozen different sources that put the number much higher.

[@jeremiahbreeden5652]

She’s such a queen. Standing up for yourself is not always easy, yet she did and did so gracefully!

[@matthews1338]

I really recommend watching this to see things from another point of view - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHTUmYGhpK53mNE

[@NoahOD_22]

Are you serious? Her “standing up for [herself]” is little more than incoherent rambling and blame shifting. Luke did absolutely NOTHING wrong by asking if she was sleeping with or planning to sleep with other contestants, and the way that she makes him out to be some misogynistic asshole who “only cares about sex” is nothing short of disgusting. She acted as though he was trying to control her or that she didn’t have the free will to make whatever choices she wanted to when he called her out during the show, which isn’t at all true. Just as Hannah had the right to make her own choices and to sleep with whomever she wanted to, Luke had the right to consequently judge her promiscuous actions, as that’s not the type of person he wanted to commit to. Luke was under the impression that they had shared faith and values, which is why he initially liked her so much. As it turned out, she shared neither with him, because she was a slut and made poor decisions, using her faith as nothing more than a cop-out since she can just say that Jesus still loves her no matter what blah blah blah. On top of all that, Luke asked her in the nicest way possible about the whole “fantasy suite” situation, and she immediately exploded on him before he could even finish his thoughts about it. That right there should tell you enough about her guilty conscious on the matter, as she herself even knew that it was wrong to be anticipating/thinking about sleeping with several guys (even though in this clip she makes a point to say how she wasn’t planning it out or thinking about it in advance; that’s EXACTLY what she did, hence her need to deny it). Hannah Brown is the epitome of what’s wrong with a lot of women in this day and age. They want to be free to make whatever reckless decisions they desire, but at the same time don’t want to take any responsibility for their actions. Wanna be an asshole? Cool, go for it. But don’t be surprised when you get punched in the face when someone inevitably gets sick of your shit. The same thing goes for sluts. Like, you do you, but don’t get all butthurt and play victim when someone calls you out for being what you are: a whore.

[@kaileim970]

On national television no less! Go Hannah

[@jessiealba4591]

A man never gets questioned about the sex part of the fantasy suites.

[@briannao9251]

1:56 Dylan’s and Connor’s reactions 3:26 Garrett’s reaction

[@anonymous-io6zg]

Dylan...you're not cool

[@pinkblueberryyy]

Are E He ends up with Hannah G tho

[@anonymous-io6zg]

@@pinkblueberryyy so...are they getting married yet?

[@abbygriffin9105]

@@pinkblueberryyy Who?

[@mizettemi5499]

How can you allow this bullying of Luke? The whole season has everyone been bullying Luke and the production has done nothing to stop it! And now Hannah is bully Luke also. I feel so bad for him. I hope you fond strenght to go through all of this Luke. God bless you

[@ToFunForThis]

Mizette Mi you mean Luke bully Hannah and everyone else

[@abbygriffin9105]

Same.

[@lammmf]

He's a sociopath, deserve everyting he got

[@joanneb1955]

He wasn’t wrong to ask if she’s having sex if he’s interested in marrying someone why wouldn’t you ask!!! These shows are crazy that’s not the way to find love kissing everyone and all over them who would want that

[@mizettemi5499]

@@joanneb1955 I totally agree.

[@mizettemi5499]

This has gone too far, to allow everyone bully Luke this way is so hard to see. Bachelor nation you needs to apologize to Luke. I have never in my life seen a man been treaten this way. I used to like to see Bachelor and Bachelorette, but this season made me feel sick. Hannah how could you treat Luke like this!? And all of the men is attacking Luke all the time. I never ever want to see Bachelor och Bachelorette after this. How can the production allow this???

[@brockkyle3690]

Agree 100%

[@tylersmith5333]

how could production allow this guy take over the whole show. Even he admitted that he lied.

[@abbygriffin9105]

For real.

[@anonymous-io6zg]

They encouraged his return. Ratings..man...ratings

[@samm3890]

This was bullying 100%. I expect it from the guys cause they’re too dull to have attention on their own but totally lost respect for Hannah after this

[@haleyhudler8242]

She still gives me chills 👏🏽

[@victoriad8767]

I'm sorry but Luke definitely has a hickey

[@farrah4528]

Victoria del Valle that’s from a fresh shave, not a hickey

[@xian1670927]

I see hickey as well lol

[@madisonboler3327]

Victoria del Valle thank god im not crazy I thought I was the only one

[@madisonboler3327]

Taffara Hibbert “that’s from a fresh shave” you obviously have never had a hickey or have ever seen one😂😂

[@farrah4528]

🤔🤔

[@flywithhan]

Chris at the very end "does that make sense??" KILLED ME

[@LSU2020]

Hands down the best bachelorette of them all in my opinion.

[@mattmatthews3689]

Oh

[@LSU2020]

@@mattmatthews3689 😂

[@BrandonTownsend]

There was nothing wrong with Luke saying that he would leave if he found out that she had sex. But the fact that he showed up again after knowing that she has had sex with one of the guys makes me wonder what his intentions are.

[@cody2641]

The best thing said during Men Tell All was by Matteo when he defended Luke P. It takes courage to standby someone while being ridiculed by the entire cast, Hannah, social media. In my opinion I’ve never seen this show support bullying as much as it did this year and Tbh I’m a little disappointed. In the beginning Luke was the from runner, after that literally the rest of the season(til Hannah’s closing statement on mta) was all about Luke, and not in a positive way. If there was anything he could have done to salvage friendships with the people he did x10. I don’t agree with what Hannah said, he absolutely deserves to communicate how he feels about sex and marriage. For crying out load he’s there to propose(I believe he would have). He’s not condemning her for having sex in her life, he’s verbalizing what he wants when it’s his time to get down on one knee. She may have been the star of the show but it take 2 people to become 1. Her ego was enormous and she became extremely spiteful.

[@chokladpudding96]

THIS ^

[@MrSunshine9450]

100% agree, any guy that cares about her would want to know what she plans on doing in those fantasy suits. It’s the girl he wants to marry. He’s not slut shaming her!! She’s going off for no reason!!

[@morganking7176]

cody he said he didn’t want her to have sex with other people

[@abbygriffin9105]

Also, didn't Hannah tell Luke P. at the beginning of the season that he needed to communicate more? Well, it looks like she got her wish.

[@lgbtorion]

cody she literally told him that she no longer wanted to be with him and he didn’t listen to her instead he forced his way on set and demanded that she speak to him. If he wanted a “pure” wife he shouldn’t have went on a show about dating multiple people you fucking moron. she can do whatever she wants and she doesn’t HAVE to be in a relationship with him whatsoever if he feels that way

[@pttwert]

I’m very curious on how people would react if the roles were reversed 🤔

[@annasteig2923]

Exactly!

[@pearlbubbles6885]

Weren't they reversed with the last bachelor?

[@pttwert]

Pearl Bubbles idk I didn’t watch last season lol

[@Zamstein]

Guys have sex all the time on that show!

[@jyotsnapadmanabhan9012]

They would tear the guy apart ofcourse

[@janhavi3]

Does Luke have a love bite on his neck? I wonder if Jesus still loves him

[@janicejackson9228]

janhavi gupta 😂

[@chrismarple]

janhavi gupta Jesus loves all of us God would have none perish but all come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ

[@miawhite1452]

LITERALLY was just thinking to myself "is that a hickey???"

[@abby16duguay]

Ohhh girl i just saw it

[@jadehalliday6636]

Initially it looks like a love bite but upon closer inspection, it looks like shaving rash to me? 🤷‍♀️

[@tatum7107]

Luke has a hickey on his neck🙄 he definitely planned that before going on 😂

[@Tranquilbutterfly28]

There nothing wrong with having morals. Where Luke went wrong is when he persistently imposed his expectations on Hannah and tried to make her feel bad about her decisions.

[@sunshinegirl6854]

I think hannah and luke just have different values. He can't tell her what to do. But I would be disheartened too if the guy I cared for had sexual relations with someone else. I think Luke just does not know how to communicate well. I think he is just misunderstood. Or that he does not think before he speaks.

[@tylersmith5333]

i think he actually thinks its about him because it was like 5 minutes for him to think through it

[@abbygriffin9105]

Same.

[@nataliem8647]

The problem with Luke is that he couldn't take no for an answer and felt entitled to keep persisting.

[@aprilnylund2474]

He should know what he signed up for. The show clearly is not for him. Everybody knows what happens towards the finale. Plus in the beginning of the show he was the one taking his shirt off and the massage scene and what not. So what gives?🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DavidsKanal]

A mature grown-up should be able to understand somebody's intentions, even if they don't communicate it well.

[@mhauserman]

Unpopular Opinion: Felt bad for Luke 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@abbygriffin9105]

Same.

[@miraculouslady632]

Michael Hauserman, It's actually not as unpopular as you might think. A lot of people feel bad for him. Even I feel bad for him and I never really liked him throughout the show up until now.

[@laurieb2296]

Michael Hauserman me too.

[@samm3890]

Not unpopular at all. All that shaming was bullying

[@riceandpotatos6009]

me 2

[@mollyj6168]

Didn't Jed say too that if she didn't do the right thing and get rid of Luke then his feelings would diminish? I mean he said it in a more subtle way but that's what he said on their overnight date. He was manipulating her into doing what he wanted and it seemed she was mad at Jed at first but then was okay and hugging him and everything was fine. I don't think Luke was right at all but they both said on overnights that if she didn't do what they wanted then they wouldn't "love" her anymore in a nutshell.

[@Noor-sl1xq]

Molly J yes!! Jed said the same thing Luke did but in different words. Totally manipulative

[@AkSonya1010]

How are people supposed to communicate. Jed was saying from his heart how he felt, yes it upset Hannah but you have to communicate your honest feelings and he did. Luke manipulates everything he says and then back petals afterwards.

[@blooples757]

i think there’s a difference in what luke said and what jed said. i can’t exactly remember how jed approached the situation, but i think in hannah’s eyes jed and the other men expressing their disliking of luke was also them trying to look out for her because they knew the luke they saw wasn’t necessarily the same luke she saw. what luke said to her was kinda slut shaming. he made her feel bad about doing something she shouldn’t feel bad about, especially since luke himself has had sex and wasn’t married.

[@jeffreya.patterson6210]

Luke escaped a bullet even though he had issues.. Say what you like, the past is the past, but no man wants another man dipping in the pudding after you just met her going forward. Especially on The Bachellorette. Other bachelorettes have been way more classy. she seems loose with lots of baggage. She did sleep around alot.. Just sayin

[@abbygriffin9105]

I know, right. And when all of the guys found out that Jed was lying from the start, they all made excuses for him, except Mike.

[@priscilla1522]

“The basis of what I believe is love and loving others, and understanding, and not shaming” Proceeds to shame Luke for expressing his personal beliefs just because they don’t match up with hers and at the end of the show bullies Luke some more even after he has left the stage

[@sunshinegirl6854]

THAT IS what I am saying. it is not okay to question her yet it is completely acceptable to question luke and shame him.

[@andresaldana6758]

Priscilla wtf? How is she shaming him? for standing up for herself? It’s not at all about his beliefs, it’s about how shitty he was for pushing his beliefs on her and bringing her down constantly for it. She’s asked a question about how it made her feel and telling her side and you’re trying to say she’s “shaming” him? She is literally answering a question that was asked. Man victim shamers are the worst kind of people.

[@tylersmith5333]

@@andresaldana6758 definitely agree

[@abbygriffin9105]

For real.

[@nataliec1964]

Andre - how is he pushing his beliefs on her? She claims to be a Christian. He also claims to be a Christian. He’s stated that he has made the choice to stay celibate because of his beliefs, so he probably was assuming that she felt the same and just wanted to make sure they were on the same page. As a Christian, he knows that sex outside of marriage is considered a sin, so he chooses not to do it. Hannah, on the other hand, seems to think that you can just go around doing whatever you want, knowing full and well that it’s a sin, because “Jesus still loves her”. That’s not how it works. After all, according to the Bible, Jesus forgave a woman and then told her to “sin no more”. Of course everyone sins in some way or another because no one is perfect, but when that happens, you ask for forgiveness and try to refrain from doing that particular thing anymore. Hannah has admitted that she believes sex before marriage is a sin, but yet she doesn’t appear to have any regret or remorse about having sex on the show. In fact, she’s going around boastfully announcing that she had sex in a windmill. She obviously doesn’t understand that if you claim to be a Christian, your actions should reflect that. Pointing that out doesn’t mean I’m condemning her or saying she should get a “Scarlett letter”. I’m just saying don’t call yourself a Christian and then go around promoting and boasting about having pre marital sex. If you make a mistake, own it. Don’t try to justify it by basically saying you can do whatever you want because Jesus will still love you. I think Luke has some personality issues and he has said things in the past that were alarming, but when it comes to this particular scenario, I don’t see anything wrong with the question that he asked her. If you were dating a woman that you were planning on possibly proposing to, wouldn’t you want to know if she had been sleeping with other guys days prior? Especially if she claims to have the same beliefs and morals that you do. Wouldn’t you want reassurance that her actions reflect the words that she’s telling you? Marriage is a lifelong commitment and he deserves to know the type of person he is marrying. Anyone who would sleep with 1 or more guys and then accept a marriage proposal from a different guy days later is probably not marriage material.

[@michaelacaleb7919]

I’ve never seen a season of the Bachelor made so much about one person.... I don’t think picking Hannah was the smartest choice, she obviously still has a lot of maturing to do...

[@brendamorales2904]

Omg yes! Shes boring!

[@kinglouie313]

Facts. Hannah is the woat.

[@Sky_shinenails]

Michaela Caleb she’s stupid Luke p was the only one that truly cares

[@Mila-Nova]

Obvi she is 24 younger than me by 1 year. This chick is so immature she is not ready for marriage and no one finds a husband on national tv. Her mental state is that of an 18 year old

[@lightning2367]

Agree, this season was boring too

[@lindalee9177]

Luke had every right to try to clarify values leading to a committed relationship....I think Hannah’s reaction was her own conscience realizing her own weakness.......

[@nomrs5942]

Linda Lee he didn’t clarify anything

[@lindalee9177]

At the dinner when she cut him off and threw him out....at that dinner she reacts to him because of her own behavior.... If she felt shame it was her own conscience that created that feeling...she then blames Luke. She is the one confused

[@nomrs5942]

Linda Lee I don’t think she feels ashamed about anything other than keeping Luke around for as long as she did and for allowing him to gaslight her into not trusting her own decisions.

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Mrs Jacobs she is not ashamed of it, she was proud of it.

[@nomrs5942]

InsularesHDxo good for her. Not all Christians live by the same standard. And quite frankly, I don’t think there is any good reason to feel ashamed for having sex outside of marriage. Only religious fanatics think like that.

[@natalieraeann]

“Does that make sense” HAHA go Chris

[@sarah1kui]

Grace shouldn't be a license to sin. It appears to me that's the conception she has and everyone seems to agree with her

[@ToFunForThis]

Sarah Wangui we all sin, no one is perfect but Jesus Christ

[@nadiyakaralash7878]

Thank God, NOT everyone.

[@ToFunForThis]

We might sin unconsciously by lying everyday or do something hurtful to someone and not know it. That's why we pray and repent and Jesus shows us mercy for us. Who every person that says they are not sinner they are lying in front of God

[@SakeofTruth]

God is gracious but he doesn’t condone sin in the name of grace. Grace doesn’t make righteousness negotiable it makes righteousness attainable. Salvation is meant to help us to stop sinning not encourage us to do so intentionally. John 8:10-11 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you? No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and SIN NO MORE”

[@emmamorgan8597]

Her repentance and sin is between her and God. Not anybody else’s business and you’ll all be held accountable before God for judging her.

[@mellieemel]

What she said about grace is highly warped... you dont just sin knowing that there is grace. That's a very wrong way of looking at what Grace

[@gmailcom8073]

Very very very wrong. That is what they call woeful sin. That sin is very bad and cannot be forgiven May be if your not a Christian and born again the lord can forgive. Just saying am not God.

[@natalieeubank4533]

@@gmailcom8073 correction all sin can be forgiven, you are correct in saying that you are not God

[@nomrs5942]

melliee g but if you don’t sin, you’ll never know grace so.

[@mellieemel]

@@nomrs5942 that's a very crazy way of looking at things. The way hannah said was she can just keep on sinning and not changing her ways because there will always be Grace. Grace is not there for you to keep sinning freely, that's not what the Bible says

[@damiagunbiade]

@@mellieemelYou don't knkw God do you. You done get to tell people what Grace is there for. That's Gods decision to decide whether grace is given too. Your not God so you have no right to say where grace is or isn't given. Period.

[@kamip3951]

Way to go Bachelor Nation for promoting bullying on national television! I’m disgusted by everyone’s actions on this season! Everyone on that stage last night needs to reevaluate themselves and their actions before tossing stones at someone else!

[@theresarice5554]

Agree 100%! Surely they lost many viewers after that childish behaviour. That was the worst season ever.

[@gmailcom8073]

Absolutely they were all terrible Mike and the rest of them.

[@beautifulcreation846]

I agreed 💯. They stooped down to the lowest level possible to get ratings. This show needs to go off of the air!! They have No principles!

[@simranpandit1023]

LITERALLY THANKYOU SOMEONE SAID IT. THESE MEN had absolutely no morals, jumping on some sort of hate bandwagon.

[@emmawinnie4431]

The only one I saw that wasn’t acting that way was Peter... he definitely didn’t want to be a part of any of the conflict and was kind to everyone

[@margaretdriedger6241]

Hannah why are you still so angry with Luke? This is showing more of your character (and I’m seeing a not so good side of it) than Luke’s🤷‍♀️

[@tatumbrimley8937]

Margaret Driedger i think she’s mad because she cared so much about him. and she had high hopes for him and realized he was a master manipulator. she’s clearly still bitter about saying he’s “obsessed with sex” was just too much

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Tatum Brimley if she cared, why so much Luke-shaming?

[@nomrs5942]

Margaret Driedger he broke her heart. It’s understandable.

[@insulareshdxo9454]

@@nomrs5942 and so Hannah to Luke P

[@YouWillGetThereBuddy]

@@insulareshdxo9454 His heart wasn't broken, he just couldn't handle losing control of her.

[@brigs1856]

I dont like how she uses the 'grace' card for her own convenience. A person can still decide before fantasy suite NOT to have sex. Prioritise your faith (if it is a priority).

[@Tcompton22]

brigs I agree

[@CrusadeRain]

AMEN!

[@rebekahmalolua4240]

brigs yes!!!

[@tenzinthinley4913]

The immaturity in the Bachelorette Hannah and the cast is just ridiculous. Everyone's super reactive and doesn't show a hint of compassion. I don't agree with what Luke's done throughout the show, but just constantly ganging up on him and calling him names doesn't help in any kind of way. None of these men have shown any sign of maturity. It surprises me that people think bullying is justified b/c someone has bad behaviour, you counter bullying with dialogue and trying to better understand why that person is behaving that certain way. "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

[@notdefeatable5699]

yeah kind of reminds of everyone publicly bashung Logan Paul last year, i mean its right to criticize what one has done but dont get ahead of urself generally speaking. we gotta learn to forgive and move on.

[@MalloryNewcomb]

That’s one reason I liked Tyler is he did ask questions but I didn’t see him jumping down Luke’s throat like the other guys did. Some of those other guys... if they were threatened by him they should have let him make all kind of gaffes & say nothing so he’d go home

[@disasterlesbian8973]

my favorites were Mike and John Paul Jones, those were the MVPs

[@cortneyleisure9255]

Yes! John Paul Jones, I loved him right at first impressions 😅

[@user-dw8cs8qv8h]

Yo same!

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Nah Mike is rude as hell I'm glad he didn't become the bachelor.

[@meenavenkat8717]

Tyler C!!!!!!

[@blueoranges6961]

In my opinion Hannahs season was just messy. She had so many great guys and chose to immaturely focus on one. Picking her for bachelorette honestly wasn't the best choice

[@instasupermamka]

I went through similar rollercoaster relationships once. it took me 6 years to quit. its addictive, its soul sucking, it destroys I think it’s incredible that we can see it in show and other girls can see it and have a closure. it’s my first bachelorette and it’s incredible what their messages are

[@jesussavingpower245]

No, Grace is no license to sin. Luke P you are the best. Stay strong. God bless you!

[@dennisvillaflor3359]

Saving Power oh gosh, if god is blessing such a psychopatic person please help us. Its like all those priests who are secretly pedophiles.

[@demetriromano565]

Did you miss the part where he body-slammed Luke S? Even if you agree with him about sex, boy got problems.

[@imenelaidi2193]

Even if hannah was out if the line and didn't understand him, Luke p is still a douche bag with major issues , he's very violent and immature, honestly he's not better then her, i am sick of you people defending him just because he's a christian, the guy is toxic, period.Him wanting to save himself for marriage doesn't make up for his awful personnality and narcissism

[@kms5793]

hannah b: "it wasn't anyone's business to know" also hannah b: "yeah so i left out some info. it wasn't twice, it was actually four times!!!"

[@janeryan2709]

It's up to the individual to reveal what they want when they want. No one else is entitled to that information. That's what she was saying.

[@Themantom12]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@xiamariansupreme72]

Wow, you're dumb. Luke got up in Hannah's business and asked invasive questions. Hannah, on the other hand, VOLUNTARILY revealed her business, meaning she CHOSE to let people know her business while Luke tried getting in her business without permission. That's kindergarten level common sense, moron, that you obviously DON'T have.

[@cadenseegers]

If a woman would have asked a bachelor this, everyone would understand that she didn't wanna be in a relationship with someone who was having sex with other people.

[@frifri28]

Exactly ! Since his a man it’s seen as controlling or him being creepy but I know I would also have reservations about the man I wanted to be with sleeping with a bunch of women . People got things twisted .

[@nomrs5942]

Caden Seegers no one would be questioning the bachelor if it was the other way around. Instead, the bachelorettes are constantly having to justify their actions. Hannah should not have had to explain herself to anyone. If he doesn’t like the fact that the woman he’s dating is having sex with other people than he should not have signed up for the show. Simple as that.

[@abbygriffin9105]

@@nomrs5942 Um, if a bachelor went off on a woman who asked him if he had sex, he would get 10× more backlash than Hannah. Have you seen those social experiments about sexual assault? If a guy is sexually touching a woman who does not want to be touched inappropriately, then multiple people come in to stop it (as they should). HOWEVER, if a girl is sexually touching a man who does not want to be touched inappropriately, people tell him that she's beautiful and he should want it, too.

[@amandaw1712]

Marie Rene you didn’t think it was controlling or creepy how Hannah kept sending him home and he wouldn’t listen to her or leave?

[@nomrs5942]

Abby Griffin it’s not the fact that he asked, it’s the fact that he was shaming her for it. Saying that if she did have sex, he would remove himself basically break up with her. You totally missed the point. He could have also asked in private. Not in front of everyone.

[@gabby75]

It took her all season to realize about Luke! 🤷‍♀️

[@23magneta]

She's not the sharpest tool in the shed. Lol.

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Gabriela Bustos I don’t believe that, she watches the recorded clips, impossible she doesn’t know.

[@J.K.7]

Well at least she did

[@J.K.7]

23magneta degrading women-yeah that’s not what we’re gonna do

[@J.K.7]

23magneta While it took her awhile to figure out Luke, she is not at all a dumb dirty blonde. Hannah expresses herself well and uses “big” words and also, did you not pick up on her reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter?

[@littlebitsofsong]

This video kinda broke my heart because I felt the Christian message was really distorted. It was also upsetting to see those girls wearing those windmill t shirts cheering for Hannah's defiance. I hope young women watching this video or reading this, Christians especially, whom are unintentionally seeking role models, don't look to Hannah in this situation as an example of godly behaviour and think that this kind of attitude/response towards sin is okay. It's true, Hannah is right that no matter what, God still loves her! However, the attitude towards the sexual sin is misaligned here. I hope Hannah realizes this too. Maybe internally she does but struggles to have a broken heart over it. (The world/popular culture is really tough to turn away from!) As Christians, we are called to FLEE sexual immorality.. we need to HATE it and KILL it ... Romans 6:1-2 We shouldn't continue to sin so that grace may abound. Grace is meant for us to be able to trust and obey in Jesus and repent (turn away from the sin) not so that we can continue feeling comfortable sinning. I didn't feel like Luke P was trying to condemn/shame her. As another Christian, it is biblical for him to point other Christians in the right direction (biblically, with gentleness, love, and tact -- which is also extremely challenging!) Feeling sorry for Luke P for all the discouragement he gets from so many. Be encouraged brother, I think you've got the right direction! I hope God blesses you in that and continues to use you to spread truth even if it doesn't look too good to the world!

[@keepyoureyeswideopen]

of course you are defending an abuser

[@captainobvious4410]

keepyoureyesopen she spoke truth.

[@keepyoureyeswideopen]

@@captainobvious4410 no she didn't, abuser

[@andrewduggan1620]

Amen. Hannah is not repentant over her sin. She is defensive over it

[@anmcvey311]

I could not have said it better! Thank you!

[@jiripirinen4264]

Luke is way too conservative and traditional to be competing in this show. This show kinda promotes polygamy and being intimate with multiple people at the same time. Luke wasn't comfortable that the girl she cared for was spreading her legs to multiple dudes, which of course she has the right to.

[@jenpho]

Jiri Pirinen your comment sounds very judgmental.

[@viksingh4584]

Jennifer Lee it’s clearly visible . She is doing that. I don’t think it’s judgemental.

[@jiripirinen4264]

@@jenpho I don't judge people. I just wrote it kinda how I think Luke sees it. We only live once, so we should do whatever feels good at the moment. Conservative, liberals, we are all people at the end of the day and need to respect each others values and views.

[@beautifullife3490]

Luke was looking for a wife in a wrong place, but probably he thought that Hannah was not going to be sleeping around with the guys...

[@blessingbutler]

Luke deserves better

[@sweetbabyem]

Imagine if the cameras weren’t there. He’s scary.

[@jessyjessystyle6245]

Hanna is still hurt.. not because of Luke, but because deep inside she know she is not doing the right thing...

[@kaylaholmes1018]

JessyJessy Style yep

[@symphoniix]

What would be the right thing for her? Maybe she felt that after her experience she didn’t feel as innocent anymore? So she’s lashing out

[@nomrs5942]

JessyJessy Style oh cause you’re a mind reader??

[@kaylaholmes1018]

Mrs Jacobs maybe she is

[@nomrs5942]

Kayla Holmes what am I thinking right now??

[@ohhappyledet]

Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age.

[@jesussavingpower245]

The worst bachelorette I have ever seen. I hate the fact that she and others keep picking on Luke P. And kissing multiple men at the same time is discussing.

[@brendamorales2904]

She will end up heart broken watch!

[@LSSYLondon]

So like every other series... he knew he was going to be in a polygamous dating world and yet he decided to shame her for being true to herself.

[@audreybaucom493]

discussing? 😂😂

[@jesussavingpower245]

type error 😊 disgusting

[@wemadeyouproductions]

Saving Power she legit made out with garret after he opened up his heart she told her he loves her , she claims he is “obsessed with sex” yet she kissed him despite knowing she was going to pick Luke over him two seconds later just because she’s a horn dog . Luke could do so much better she is so warped in getting angry at him for questioning her about something she is actually doing .

[@tigrisjess2136]

Luke has value he was pouring his honesty to you. He wasn’t forcing her to do anything. I’m not siding with him but honestly she is the worst bachelorette ever on this show. She slept with all the guys then gets upset when one guy who hopes to be her future husband asked a question about it. No honey. No.

[@AnnaD25]

So scripted. How could Luke just walk on set and join the line? Ha? No security?

[@kparker905]

No, that's not how it went down. Luke was sent home, but the producers ASKED him if he wanted to come back to talk to Hannah and clarify his point. He obviously said yes and so it was all good, and they did have security right off camera. If you don't believe me you can hear Chris Harrison talk about it on a podcast called "Bachelor Party- The Men Tell All" episode. Here's the link: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chris-harrison-tells-all-about-men-tell-all-bachelor/id1330224581?i=1000445098662he The producers thought it would be good drama, because Luke had already come back once, and they wanted to get a reaction from Hannah. It was a very cruel move, but they did it, and you may be a newer viewer of the show, but sometimes they really do purposefully put the lead in emotionally distressing situations to try and make good tv, and then often times or never take responsibility. You don't hear about the producers because they're not on camera. Another background thing about the show, in their little interviews where the contests are talking to the camera one-on-one, describing something that is happening or happened, there is always a producer that they are sitting and talking to and having a conversation with, on the other side, that is trying to lead them to say certain things. Also, it's not like the producers are a crew that the contestants barely see, the producers basically become some of the guys' closest friends because they're living together going through this together also, and it's nice to have some friends who aren't trying to date the same person. A producer might say "How do you feel about Hannah doing so and so?" and then the contestant will say "I think Hannah... " which an give the show ammo to put clips up out-of-context. So, I think you were trying to go deep on the show but it isn't fake in the way you're assuming, which was that they were pretending Luke came back kind of his own right and surprised them. Luke came back, and they did not tell Hannah they were ALLOWING that to happen, and the guys were surprised because they didn't know that Luke was sent home on his date in the first place, and therefore were EXPECTING to see him at this rose ceremony. It was manufactured in a way, but not in the way you guessed

[@truedatdatdatdat]

*do you know what scripted even means???????*

[@mitylene_bailey]

That's same thing I said. The producers filled his head with Lord knows what and that's why Chris came out and addressed Hannah and not him.

[@specialK180]

Hannah is frightening. If I was a dude I would run so far away. Pretty girl but so immature, defensive, and just angry. Yikes

[@RedFuzzyawesome]

specialK you sound like Luke lol

[@elizabethdunkelbarger8581]

we need to realize where foul language comes from. It would help us a lot in our relationships. "Out of the heart, the mouth speaks" so when people swear or use foul language, like Hannah did from the beginning of the show, there's a lot of trouble in that heart... likewise, she struggles with depression which is anger turned inward.... this all doesn't make her unlovable and with a patient husband, she could have a good marriage... but, in getting to know anyone, we would do well to listen to the words people choose.

[@MalloryNewcomb]

Yeah she just come at him with all this aggressive energy. I feel like she wanted at one point to get up from her chair and slap him in the face.

[@TashaSiera]

@@elizabethdunkelbarger8581 there is nothing wrong with swearing so

[@ElisaMariaDesigns]

This was a disgrace. Luke already took a beating & instead of GRACIOUSLY accepting his apology & MOVING ON Hannah opted 4 her pound of flesh & continued to shame him. That’s because she has anger issues. Every time she could not communicate her feelings on this season, she’d put her hands to her temples and declared “I’m getting so angry” more to my point, when she lost her temper for the 100th time, she threw Peter under the bus and told the world about THEIR very intimate evening. SHE DIDNT EVEN TAKE A BREATH TO CONSIDER HOW THAT WOULD MAKE HIM FEEL. Luke pisses her off bc she sees herself in him in some ways. I do not see an Independent woman here. I see a self centered, immature women who also has some growing up to do. Had she did that to my son and shared intimate details of their evening (in the most vulgar way) I wouldn’t want her as a daughter-in-law. How embarrassing! There is no happily ever after here. As for Luke I believe he has some learning disability like dyslexia or ADD. He careful chose his words bc he was trying to put his thoughts in order. He has a problem communicating and when it comes out wrong he seems like he is back peddling. Most people would be defensive but he is prideful and is trying not to show his struggle. There’s more to this.

[@KLE9080]

This episode completely angered me and changed my entire opinion on Hannah and the show. I use to like her and rooted for her for bachelorette, but after last night (and the last few episodes) I saw her true colors and can honestly say that she is the worst bachelorette to ever be on the show. I felt like last night's men tell all was all about bashing Luke. THE E.N.T.I.R.E. SHOW! It was literally EVERYONE! The men, Hannah, and even the audience were all just bashing and bullying him the entire episode. I honestly felt so bad for him because you can tell he's a nice and sweet and genuine guy, but this show painted him in the way they wanted him to look like, and they painted him the villain of the season. I was honestly really appalled at last nights show and I think that Hannah showed her true colors as well, and to me she looked like a heartless, careless, bullying bitch. She has completely changed since being on the show and after watching this season, and especially last night's MTA episode, I have got to say that Hannah is the absolute WORST bachelorette to ever be on the show. And by the way, Luke had every right to ask her personal questions about her screwing every guy on the show. He was about to propose to her, a life altering important decision, and he had every right to know what he was getting into. And it was hilarious how she said sarcastically, "so I'll just tell everyone my sex life." She straight up gloated about it in the prior episode about how she "had sex in a windmill." She put her sex life out there for everyone to know! And then for her to make a public service announcement at the end about Luke!? That was cruel, mean and just awful! Now, I'm not going to say Luke was a saint and did no wrong because he did have his fair share of idiotic moments. But the bottom line is I was completely appalled and disappointed in the show last night and how they treated Luke. It was a big bullying fest. Shame on them ALL.

[@tatumbrimley8937]

Karen Emmons 10000% agree with you. nice to see someone else is level-headed watching this. now, i do think luke may have been unintentionally gaslighting her, but i do think he cared and absolutely had a right to ask her if she was fucking around . no one wants a girl that’s for everybody, that ain’t no wife

[@samm3890]

Karen Emmons same!! Hate bullies

[@zmartieq]

These tell all’s are getting a leeetle mean.

[@yolondasmith6415]

I couldn't agree more. This show went to her head...I like Like. Yeah he did some things wrong. But I agree a few days before i may ask you to marry me I wouldn't want the other person sleeping around. She should of controlled her emotions better. Plus Like said they both had a serious conversation about faith etc. Then she turns the tables on him and makes him look like a foul. I totally agree with you. She didn't want to talk about sex but has no shame talking about her and Peter. Then change even how many times they did it. Embarrassing on Peter I'm sure.....

[@sakura360ify]

men who are aggressive with the other men and lie about it, who think they’re above everyone because of their faith and use that faith to manipulate situations, men who thinks they can have a say in what a woman does with her body, can’t take no for an answer don’t deserve to have people feel sympathy for them. men like luke are terrifying and get aggressive so quickly. hannah b and the guys had every right to attack him because news flash.. they spent more time with him than you ever saw on the show. watching everything back probably made her and the guys angrier, so of course the problematic person of the season will be the most talked about. hannah b saw how he acted towards the other men and on top of reliving what he said to her.. she had a lot to say. rightfully so. hannah b is the one of the best bachelorettes and most popular they’ve had with how much she boosted their ratings. she carried herself better than bachelors do. calling someone a bitch and judging them when you don’t know them is you being a hypocrite.

[@cheriedamour6143]

I was waiting for Chris to say something so the audience would stop bashing Luke but you were encouraging them to do it more.

[@trey1sandoval]

cherie damour he deserved it tho😂

[@amandaw1712]

That’s not true. The tapping was 8 hours long and only 2 hours were shown. So editing shows more of the highlighted bashing

[@strawberrimihlk3407]

Why are some people defending this creep 😂 his attitude and actions are honestly disturbing and scary. The amount of times she asked him to go and he was like some deranged stalker. No ma’am. Arrogant jerk

[@nick74195]

Jesus does love her but Jesus will still be the judge. Hell or heaven. No one knows.

[@brockkyle3690]

Trey Sandoval HOW THE FUCK DID HE DESERVE IT

[@danniamendoza9260]

“JESUS STILL LOVES ME!”

[@gmailcom8073]

Dont use the lord name in vain this is stupid.

[@moitshepisparkles]

@@gmailcom8073 you can say that again

[@anonymous-io6zg]

How does she know he does?

[@aliciajackson6828]

No he does NOT

[@bikadroid6265]

Alicia Jackson Jesus has unconditional love for everyone, regardless of their free will. that’s why He always wants us to come to Him

[@rogeg.decastro1407]

i feel sorry for luke, but still you are the braviest men out there! u will find your true love!

[@vikuciic]

I do not like Luke, never had, never will. But he is not wrong. Yes, he must know in what environment he is coming into and yes, the bachelorette is dating and developing relationships with many people. And that involves cuddling and kissing, but. BUT it does not mean You have to sleep with somebody. Especially if You are not to pick him at the end. And even if You do - brag about it on national tv? She is not the first bachelorette and not the first to involve with someone in close sexual relationship, but have You heard from previous ladies about how they had sex? I think a grown up, serious woman would understand that it is not serious to sleep with one man, then chose the other. That is not a stable establishment. She might be great, open minded and well spoken and many other great things, but she is NOT ready for marriage. She can chose someone and date for a while to understand what strong relationships are built on and that marriage is not only a title and beautiful wedding. ABC - I am sure You can find contestants for Bachelor and Bachelorette who are interesting and exciting for TV, but are ready to find love, too... wasn't this show about that? I have a feeling we are loosing it.

[@Poopie22]

vikuciic oh please , this show isn't a Christian show. What wtf was he thinking lol

[@vikuciic]

@@Poopie22 I am not even talking about being a Christian - it is not a place for finding love for them - if You claim to be 100% Christian and almost saint as him - You are definitely there for the wrong reasons. But for any normal human being - if You are serious - You will suppress Your urges which of course are taking over when being isolated from outside and seeing all those gorgeous men.. suppress or if You have slipped - do not brag. Turn this around - would You be happy to propose to person who You know has already made love to someone else just a few days before? I do not think so. show is a bubble and unfortunately many of people there find it hard to attach to reality. I am happy that many bachelorettes could.

[@demetriromano565]

I think this may be true for you, and that’s okay- we all want different things from relationships. But personally I’m very polyamorous and wouldn’t care at all if my fiancée was still enjoying a sex life with other people. Tyler probably knows what’s up and he is okay with it too. Some people are fine with it, and some not. Both opinions are okay, but if you don’t want your partner sleeping with other people, don’t go on the Bachelorette.

[@xyriusd832]

You may really like someone and you have sex and it just dosent work or make you feel anything more. so I can see someone not moving forward with a person after sex.

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Luke P didn't sign himself up to be on the show.

[@Zamstein]

1:50 Luke alleged that she made a comment which she denied... but he kind of looked like shocked. I feel like she might have lied when denied making that statement to him. He claimed she told him of her plans prior....

[@stevenvalencia2100]

I don't agree with Luke how he went about it .but I never understood why these bachelors an bachelorette needing to have to sleep with each other to find love 90 percent of these fantasy sweets they have been intimate dates .past seasons have proved that .i don't think u have to sleep with someone to find out who is , mr right Luke was just controlling an approached the wrong way

[@brendamorales2904]

Oh hush girl! Next show please!

[@dolma4807]

Luke deserves to ask those questions and Hanna deserves to reject him Why is he wrong ...at the end boys are also looking for right women this show started to be stupid now

[@brycerichardson3687]

The show was always a dumb concept lol.

[@alyssap4389]

agreeeeeee

[@gmailcom8073]

Your right the show is looking it value

[@ekenebyekene4801]

He is wrong because she rejected him. Again, and again, and again, and again. He was like herpes. Just wouldn't go away. And it is never about what you say, it is about how you say it. Luke is judgemental in both tone and words... its hard to accept that as an adult from another adult. You can share your fears and concerns without making the other person wrong. Love and judgment cannot live together.

[@AkSonya1010]

@@ekenebyekene4801 Well said

[@Tcompton22]

Being held accountable and being “shamed” are two different things. When you become a Christian, you are held to a different standard and because of that, people around you are going to call you out on your crap. I am the person I am today because people didn’t just let me do whatever I wanted as to not “shame” or offend me. No one is perfect and Jesus loves all, but does not condone sexual sin as a lifestyle BECAUSE he loves us and wants better for us. Luke didn’t do everything right on this show but he wasn’t some monster. This is so old and tired at this point. He was worried about where her heart was at and if she thought that sex outside of marriage was okay as a lifestyle. It wasn’t about the mistakes she had made but whether or not she owned those as mistakes or if she saw it as a norm for her.

[@tyrchtemph1881]

Being held to a standard that is unfounded is ridiculous. Being christian is a faith based position....meaning unsupported....subjective. Calling sex before marriage a "sexual sin" is subjective. There is no basis for it. There is no reason to think of it as a morally wrong act. No data to support that. Therefore, she made no "mistake".

[@nataliec1964]

Tyrch - she very openly claims to be a Christian. The Bible without a doubt does not condone pre marital sex. If she’s going to claim to be a Christian, her actions need to reflect her words.

[@tyrchtemph1881]

@@nataliec1964 Who cares what the bible does not condone. It claims wearing mixed fabrics is an abomination..or that animals can talk. SO WHAT?! It's a work of ancient literature.....not reality. Saying what the bible does or does not condone.....doesn't show HOW something is immoral. It isn't based on data. It is UNFOUNDED. SUBJECTIVE. FAITH....BASED.

[@sipparadoxtv5329]

Tyrch Temph you’re deranged.

[@sipparadoxtv5329]

Natalie C well said. Whether or not someone on the outside agrees with religion, if a person claims to belong to one, but then does not live their lifestyle accordingly, they should be called on it.

[@nadiyakaralash7878]

No, Hannah. Grace is not a license to sin. It’s a way to CHANGE yourself. Jesus didn’t say, go and sin some more when forgiving the prostitute. Jesus told her, “Go and sin NO more.” Of course, everyone makes mistakes. But don’t be proud of it.

[@ToFunForThis]

Nadiya Karalash she's not proud of it. She said that to make him leave? Otherwise, she wouldn't have shared her sex life on national tv?? Didn't you just watch the video?

[@insulareshdxo9454]

Agree👍

[@SakeofTruth]

Very true!

[@nataliec1964]

Exactly.

[@miraculouslady632]

Becca Days, Hannah was actually VERY proud. She winked and smiled at the camera and boasted about how she not only fucked in the windmill once, but TWICE. Rewatch the clip then tell us what you saw. Because we all saw how proud she was about fucking in a windmill. As if that is supposed to be an accomplishment.

[@tarahheuss2359]

Yikes is all I have to say towards the way that Hannah handled this.

[@mikebevacqua1517]

I mean Luke is right, a women of faith doesn’t do that

[@LSSYLondon]

BS. Tell that to all the woman - and men having sex before marriage so 95% of American adults basically.

[@gabriellavanaxeldongen704]

Mike Bevacqua a woman / man of faith should not do that. But sadly many people in general say they are christian but hold no high moral standards...But hey this is reality tv. As a christian myself i would not go on one of these...

[@allysonmessina1785]

Amen! This is the truth!

[@allysonmessina1785]

@Chipmonk amen!!

[@kparker905]

Right, but she made it clear that she DOES do that. So at that point it's up to him to decide whether he wants to continue to try and be in a relationship with her or not. They are both adults. Obviously she didn't have the same beliefs in regards to sex and their religion which he did, so he could have left, and at that point she wanted him to leave, so they were on the same page that it wouldn't work out for them. But he decided to come back

[@snowone9685]

I'm w/everyone else on Luke P . He is not self-aware enough to realize he should never have gone on to the show. That being said, I felt for him last night. More, I was disappointed in Chris & the powers that be that were behind last nights episode. Sorry, but grilling Luke that way was shameful, went low & was below ABC. -We all have Luke's number-. Last night felt intended to mop the floor at Luke's expense. *Smug smirks & all, sorry Chris & ABC, your better angels were clearly absent!! 🕊

[@LSSYLondon]

The "we all have Lukes number" was in response to his tweet to Hannah that when she was ready to repent and talk to him about her evil sinful ways she "had his number".

[@---vw4ij]

Luke P comes off as so arrogant. He'd be a controlling husband

[@chrisnoziere2893]

So you're okay with your future wife sleeping with other men the days before you're about to propose to them?

[@laurend8140]

@@chrisnoziere2893 if one is uncomfortable with that premise they shouldn't go on the show

[@chrisnoziere2893]

@@laurend8140 he got recruited to be on the show

[@michaeljaf5734]

@@laurend8140 He thought they were on the same page. Hannah said they were then he asked her about the other guys that's when it started blowing up. So Hannah is in the wrong for not telling him that they arent on the same page.

[@kevinolano4073]

@@chrisnoziere2893 that's literally the concept of the show... recruited or not he can still say no lol. That is an invalid argument.

[@reginakhury5945]

You are tired of talking about Luke but you keep coming back to it. It seems to me, you didn’t get over him. Just let it go because Jed is so worth it. He lies through his teeth and you felt for it! His family? They basically told you he wasn’t the one 🙄

[@iAintSayDat]

I'm semi religious, so I can relate to Hannah on that. I can definitely relate to Luke not wanting someone he expected to be engaged to soon sleeping with other men, religion be damned. That doesn't seem unusual to me.

[@jelicianorwood24]

Oh okay... Luke is man of GOD. I respect him because he stands on morals and faith. She doesn't

[@lukeschilperoort9934]

Hannah is claiming to be someone that she's not (which is a follower of God). I would argue that Luke should have known better and that if he was looking for someone who really took their faith seriously he would have never come on this show in the first place. The show exploits relationships and emotions for tv ratings and basically encourages people to sleep around. I think his biggest problem was that he was just incredibly naive.

[@LSSYLondon]

@@lukeschilperoort9934 You can follow God and not believe the same things as the person sitting next to you. Your morals are not your families morals. They are personal. God never said sex is a worse sin than wearing mixed threads. Stop picking and choosing according to YOU whether someone is a person of faith. It's not up to you. You don't know her mind. STOP JUDGING. You make Christians look bad by judging others.

[@blackspiderman1887]

No such thing as semi religious. That's like being semi-pregnant. You're either in or out.

[@blackspiderman1887]

@@LSSYLondon Actually if you read your bible, Women who sleep around are not put in a favorable light. And their are actually worse sin than others. For example, saying a curse word is a sin, But Murder is a far greater sin that carries a far greater punishment. So yeah, as someone claiming to be christian, they should already know that.

[@EvelynJoy]

Chris to Luke: Does that make sense? Luke: "Yes." (no way any of this actually got through to him)

[@steffvm]

That "YES" at the end was the only thing worth listening to ever come out of his mouth.

[@kearstiann93]

Wow.... she really attacked him.... I mean I get it, but this also just felt a little more brutal than it needed to be. That is my personal opinion

[@nothingbutintroverted4372]

He’s an abusive manipulative pathological liar he had it coming

[@miraculouslady632]

natzvlog17, He also apologized and kept asking for everyone's forgiveness on the Tell All. He's maturing.

[@samm3890]

True!! This was literally bullying a man on public tv. I felt horrible

[@joannalove7374]

He said his opinion and what he likes in women She react to strong little crazy

[@starswontcome]

People out here really saying Hannah doesn’t comprehend her religion “correctly” but ignoring the fact that Luke repeatedly lied, manipulated, and gaslit her. Like y’all really doing that with your whole chest. Embarrassing.

[@TheSpringMood]

Hannah you wanted somebody to jump the fence for you and you got what you wanted. Luke P risked it all, his dignity and respect just to fight for his love. Colton was a stalker too, remember when Cassy said no but he still went to talk to her? but for them it worked out so it turned into a great love story. Why do you blame him for trying?

[@n2lock]

@Salina Vitale Luke P will recover. He's trying to establish himself as a Christian voice on Twitter. With his handsome face, conservative Christian women will be lining up to date him. It wouldn't surprise me to hear he's engaged to one of the Duggar girls in a year or two.

[@gmailcom8073]

U know what ur absolutely right.

[@abbygriffin9105]

I know, right.

[@kokokobe6739]

This season should be called ‘Hannah doesn’t like luke’

[@zvinomnomnom157]

When we are doing the right thing, I believe no one can make us feel bad.

[@trevormichaud8701]

Hannah is lying to herself if she's saying the fantasy suites aren't for sex lmfao

[@aladdout9454]

she meant its not necessarily for sex. Its optional. Being more intimate with each other is the point which may or may not include sex

[@thequeen3834]

@@aladdout9454 exactly! Or deep conversations that you don’t want on camera. Like religion, spiritual beliefs, kids etc

[@prasad9002]

😂 Yeah especially Hannah. She dose it everywhere.

[@xiamariansupreme72]

No, she's not. Sex is an option, but its not like its mandatory. She and Peter were feeling hot and bothered and just decided to go for it. She didn't wanna rush into sex with Tyler and he respected that and she said the same to Jed, so its not like Hannah was just screwing everybody. Her and Peter having sex was just a spur of the moment choice from the sexual tension they'd BEEN building for prior weeks with all their makeout sessions.

[@xiamariansupreme72]

@@prasad9002 Meanwhile, Hannah said Peter was only the second man she'd ever slept with, so stop projecting. You probably do it everywhere with everyone.

[@tommywei4165]

didn't like hannah too much as bachelorette tbh.

[@joylang2800]

But grace doesn't mean keep screwing up because God forgives you are suppose to hold yourself higher

[@Grace-pr7ij]

Amen. You shouldn’t go around doing it saying “oh I’ll have sex, or I had sex but it’s fine cause God will forgive me.” It’s more realising the commandments and doing you’re best to become higher without doing those things against him.

[@carmenmorris580]

joy lang AMEN

[@scarlettsapphire780]

I got 3 words for yall ITS NOBODY'S BUSINESS yes indeed her relationship with whatever she believes in (god? Idk) is hers alone if she trips and falls shes the one to fix that relationship right? You're judging the fuck out of her which I thought was a no go for this religion or am I wrong?

[@killinit913]

Grace28 she shouldn’t claim to be Christian if she’s going to do things Jesus said will keep you out of the kingdom of god. She’s a hypocrite. Sleep with whoever you want, but don’t claim to be a Christian

[@chrisnoziere2893]

Exactly why I'm not a big Hannah fan. I can kind of understand why Colton dumped her. She's really goofy.

[@disabledchildrensassociati3248]

I commend Matteo for speaking up for Luke and stating that he was punisheded enough for the public humiliation he went through and the rejection of all the guts. It was a Luke bashing fest and Hannah did not have to apologize to "Bachelor Nation" for keeping Luke so long. They were no saints on the show. Jed went on the show to promote his singing career and left a girfriend. Yeah, THAT'S a prize! And as mentioned in comments below, Grace is not a license to keep sinning!

[@disabledchildrensassociati3248]

misspelled guys!

[@emmapeel38]

I think the final 3 were all frauds, just that Luke was polarizing, they could slip under everyone’s radar. I never bought whatever Jed was selling for a second.

[@allysonmessina1785]

Amen!

[@belladigioia]

“does that make sense?” “yes” LMAO

[@hillaryedwards567]

I love Hannah, but why the whole men tell all is about Luke P? Jed should be in the hot seat too, Luke is a good guy, i think he's being misunderstood sometimes because of how he communicates! He did well in the hot seat with everyone bulling him!

[@lisam7861]

He’s in final 2. Final 1 and 2 are never at Men Tell All.

[@jess_ismore]

Because he's still on the show. I imagine he'll get his next week.

[@abbygriffin9105]

The only reason people hate Luke is because he is not good with words and communicating his feelings. But he was still there for the right reasons. Jed and few others deserve A LOT more backlash than Luke ever got.

[@hillaryedwards567]

@@abbygriffin9105 I totally agree!!

[@lynnehenry]

How is calling someone narcissistic not judging someone(even licensed therapists don't do that in such ways... this is just not acceptable behaviour) .. & how is saying **** leave not cussing or shaming someone.. :( sorry, but that was uncalled for on part of a lead. 'Being real' or having strength isn't in shaming one who you think is shaming you. Honestly, so put off by this Bachelorette season's last two episodes, don't want to watch any further of this season... and never had liked Luke P so much and never thought I would perhaps ..but towards the end he does seem more honest and vulnerable and willing to change and learn and grow than anyone else.. everybody else's aggressive behaviour and bullying or lies even it seems are conveniently couched or veiled within the excuse that Luke P behaved badly. Liked John Paul Jones's responses on Luke P that I saw was recently recorded.. balanced and only person who thinks Mr Parker isn't a bad guy, perhaps. Feel like no one deserves to be treated like Luke P was towards the end. No one. It's just humiliating and sad. And a gang of boys bullying in a group one they dislike - it's not new. It's happened earlier too..& has happened with women too..a gang of girls stacked up against an obvious 'competitor' Krystal N.. so that's not new. But making one person the 'villain' that everyone bashes for a reality drama show needs to end. That's not cool. Done with Luke P then best to stop talking about him than 'insulting' further with hurtful words.. I mean this is also a human being with a family that cares .. so a little kindness may be nice or have been nice. 🙏🏻 Ps: unbelievable also that this even needs to be said in this day and age .. about women's rights over women's bodies.. ✌🏻seems everyone has "growing up" to do.. and Bachelorette seriously, how about casting a non heterosexual or queer Bachelorette for next season after casting Haley Stevens( if she may wish to that is).. it's not just heterosexual couples that make this world you know.. incase you'll haven't noticed yet. 🙄🤦‍♀️

[@elliesi8771]

Lynne Henry i totally agree with you

[@anonymous-io6zg]

Jpj for bachelor pleeeeease

[@michelle2751]

PS... Hannah, you don't deserve any of these guys in this process, fix yourself first

[@howlfairy]

lmao you'e acting like you know her personally.

[@praisegod3768]

Here's my take: Hannah's connection with Luke P. seemed partly based on some religious things they both believed. And when he asked her if she was sleeping with the other guys, Hannah felt convicted -- morally -- and that goes deeper than mere relational whatnot. That goes to the core of what she purports to believe. It didn't have to do with her dignity, her feminism, her so-called empowerment, yada yada yada. It was as if she knew he was spot-on. And it hurt. And all this fuss about Luke P. being "crazy" and whatever? And all this Luke-hating that went on in the "Guys Tell All" show last night? And that ridiculous "Sorry, America, for how long you had to see Luke P. on your television screen" "final thoughts" by Hannah? B.A.L.O.N.E.Y. And downright mean, hateful, bullying, nasty, tacky. And that goes for Hannah, for the guys (except for Matteo, who had the guts to stand up for Luke P.) and Chris, the host. And for the producers, who don't seem to care who gets hurt in the process. But hey, that's show-biz.

[@AkSonya1010]

If you can't see what Luke was doing was abusive I feel bad for you. Take out the religion and watch his actions he's a fuse waiting to explode. Multiple times he was clenching his jaw and fist in Hannah presence. That's not love or acts of a Christian, that's unhealthy and looks abusive.

[@praisegod3768]

​@@AkSonya1010 Okay. Luke messed up, but he also fessed up. Is he flawed? Is he a human? Clearly. And no human deserves public shaming and humiliation on prime time.

[@AkSonya1010]

@@praisegod3768 I can agree with your statement to a degree but warning women who are Christian's or not about of a wolf in sheep clothing is something that is important. There are a lot of abusive people who pray on vulnerable people of God. It's not something I am going to sit by and be silent about. Did he really fess up? I hope and pray Luke gets help and that he learns from his mistakes. Sadly he said nothing last night to show me that he learned anything from watching himself on this season. Saying he didn't regret anything said an awful lot and once again when he thinks about it he back petals. Scary if you ask me, that's how people end up feeling crazy when they are in relationships with people like Luke. Yes, I have worked with people who have been with a abusive people like Luke.

[@michellelaugie5345]

@@AkSonya1010 He was worse than your usual silly villan on the show. It was scary and fascinating at the same time. It was one of the most harmonious seasons I've watched him aside. And for him to think and say getting the first impression rose made him a target was pathetic. Could you imagine everyone acting like an ass and devoid of any emotion; plus the lack of communication skills winning, winning after getting the first impression rose.

[@alexisaddotta5710]

Someone obviously doesn’t read her bible! The Bible clearly states in Romans 6:15 “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!” God did NOT give us grace so we can intentionally sin. God gave us grace so we can have a RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

[@howlfairy]

someone doesn't know how to mind her own business. "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a passing dog by the ears." Proverbs 26:17

[@tracygonzalez4124]

Hannah is so well spoken GEEZUS

[@---ih8jo]

She’s clearly not over Luke, she only felt stupid because she asked for him to open up and he did. She just couldn’t handle it.

[@anonymous-io6zg]

Biggest truth!!!!

[@superduperjoi6800]

This is why as a Christian i will not go on bachelor or bachelorette

[@nomrs5942]

superduperjoi probably for the best

[@Wareaglegirl9960]

She’s a hypocrite

[@nomrs5942]

Michelle Hancock most Christians are

[@Wareaglegirl9960]

Mrs Jacobs I wouldn’t say most but a lot are

[@nomrs5942]

Michelle Hancock I think most is accurate

[@Therezumee92]

Luke maybe handled it all wrong, but all she does is contradicting herself. No one is shaming her about sex itself. It's about disrecpect and disregard towards other relationships. The show may be a bubble, but there are feelings involved. She blames Luke for being selfish, yet this was all about her and her feelings. The men are allowed to have reaction too. Here's no right or wrong, she doesn't seem to get it. She wants to be just right.

[@joyanderson8514]

I’m a Christian. There’s no shame in Christ. Thas the reason I follow Him, bc HE took my shame away.

[@Lizzievbutterfly]

Yessssssss

[@TheJking85]

All Hannah can talk about is Luke!. He's _really_ in her head. Luke should be the next Bachelor. And the women who hate Luke will watch him anyway because he's a compelling character :)

[@acting125]

Let’s all acknowledge that Luke has a fucking HICKEY!!!!