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[@backfire]

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[@mhughes1160]

How many thousands of dollars ? LoL 😂

[@dweb2275]

Just hope they fixed the cold weather issues with the new Veracity PH. Did a cold Elk hunt and it wouldn't work. Replaced batteries several times and after an hour or so in 20 deg weather the scope would not turn on.

[@ValcoBayrunner]

That Blows, can you fall back to the data on the App and dial the turrret manually ? Use electric tape and wrap a hamd warmer on it 😂. Thanks for bringing that up.

[@joewilkey]

Aww man! It would have been great to see you! I was the one that stopped you in shot show 2 years ago, Had the eye patch and my brother showed you the suppressors that changed color under heat! Anyways I'm just west of Greeley in Fort Collins. Where the trees and the mountains are haha. If you're ever out again, I would like to go shoot. Or show you some awesome camp spots for you and your fam! Take care!

[@js7127]

Was devastated when Nikon stopped making scopes but luckily found your channel. Really appreciate your equipment and especially your scope reviews. Never owned a Burris scope before your recommendation, now I own three. Their optics have came along way since I shot with my Uncles in the 80"s.

[@MrCclimeGo]

Love my Nikons! I wish they would license their glass tech to an up and coming scope maker. I have several 15+ year old Nikons and they still perform like brand new 🤙

[@jacobmeyer1842]

Same with that tree here in the Texas Panhandle

[@andreaslange8256]

Great scope, but I fancy the approach of Element Optics´ HYPR7 more. Optical scope, but the whole reticle is a digital overlay, fully customizable. Built in weather station (temp, hum, pressure), wireless communication with a capable rangefinder of your choice, you can save and use different gun/ammo profiles. Long battery life, of course app support. Atm there´s only a compact 7x50 available (cheaper than expected), but there´s more to come for sure. If you haven´t already, make sure to check that one out 😉

[@cumgoat]

Good Scopes are criminally overpriced and ill die on this hill

[@krodkrod8132]

Go polish the internal glass for 100 hours and get back to me.

[@BloodyRim]

What kind of optic manufacturing experience do you have?

[@wadesafool]

Vortex has entered the chat😂

[@Simon-talks]

@@krodkrod8132 lol yeah....nobody's doing that haha

[@42N8_1]

Try Tract Optics.

[@winstonskafte5505]

Yes I really like Burris the eliminator line has been around for a decade they have great warranty and are priced reasonable .

[@andrewlaughbon9468]

That eliminator 6 is smooth. I like it.

[@texpatriot8462]

When I first got invited to a deer camp, I bought a Leupold VX3 for my 243. Not knowing that people bought lots of really high end optics, I was embarrassed that I spent that much. Now, I am saving for a $1000+ scope and range finding binos.

[@DavidBnks02]

Dude don't even sweat it. High end optics are great but a VX3 is a great deer gun optic and will do most of what the VX5/6 will do. I have some VX freedoms and VX5/6s and I think optically they're very close, all you're missing on lower lines is parallax and elevation adjustment (My $1400 VX5 only has elevation). Your 243 is a sub 400 yard round. No way you need $1000 worth of scope for that far. Save the cash go get a vortex bino and range finder, the combo units are just too expensive imo for the weight you save with one item.

[@bdsurfer13]

Amazing new products!

[@bradbo3]

All three are AMAZING…but that third one is also unbelievable…its now a video game scope. LOVE IT.

[@hunterx2210]

My first time having Burris too I already in love with the scope

[@ToddOutdoors]

That’s a cool scope with the drop marking.

[@spikex41]

I’ve been 3d printing these for years now for my air rifles to swap back and forth from slugs to pellets. Looks a little nicer than my plastic ones for sure haha I like it

[@splitpin1764]

Hi Jim, you were like a 6 year old on Christmas morning making this video. I love my Burris scopes but my budget is at the cheap end of the scale. Only going to 500 yards, the droptine models do the job well for me, after a recommendation from Rob at Deermeat. I hope Burris gave you a new eliminator or that could be an expensive video to make.

[@mattofjax]

I had no idea Burris was located in Greeley Colorado less than 5 miles from my house. I am definitely gonna have to pay them a random visit and see if I can get a factory tour.

[@ElkRyder96]

Wow great to see Burris coming out with quality products again.

[@bobfife9071]

Hi Jim at what ranges does the eliminator 6 zero your rifle, bear in mind im in the uk, and I don’t have the ground to shoot at distances of more than 250yds. Bob

[@chrisgunsandguitars1403]

Does that built in range finder have angle compensation?

[@ValcoBayrunner]

I think I picked up my Veracity PH for $700 at Optics Planet holiday sale. Of course the new model comes out. Like the look of the new compact models. Great job Burris 👏👏👏

[@backfire]

That’s a great deal for that scope.

[@coreymoyers]

My dad stripped out the top turret screws on a Burris optic. He gave it to me because it was junk. I contacted Burris and they sent me three new tiny screws. 😅

[@robdavidson4945]

Dang, my scope eye is bigger than my bank account.

[@backfire]

We all have that problem 😊

[@rockylongbrake1703]

I just needs a finer aiming point. That bold vertical crosshair covers up a lot of targets. Also did they happen to tell you the beam divergence on the rangefinder

[@longrangereaper]

What size is the illuminated aiming point? The vertical post seems thick, but I'm not certain since i haven't handled one.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

Eliminator 6 vs. 100 gallon challenge?

[@IDWIE]

Sick scopes

[@wyattarie8905]

I wonder how the Veracity PH and Eliminator would work if you had a 20 moa base. The Eliminator looked like it was in their XTR Signature rings which can be shimmed as well.

[@dethmgnt4257]

Not sure about the new ones, but the original Veracity PH only allowed for 34 MOA of digital adjustment before you hit the zero stop. I removed the zero stop to see if continuing to turn the knob would allow the digital counter to keep going, but sadly, that was the limitation. So, adding a 20 MOA base does nothing for extra distance if you are using the digital aspect, but the scope will still physically adjust beyond 34 MOA if you remove the zero-stop, so you could use the DOPE chart in the app and still use it like a traditional scope.

[@wyattarie8905]

@@dethmgnt4257 That was the exact answer I was looking for. Thank you!

[@mattnewcomb1163]

Wow those are some nice scopes

[@blaircalvin5025]

Great vid Jim. Damn that Eliminator 6 would be fantastic on a mob of roos 🤣

[@andrewfischer1311]

Picked up a Veracity PH a few months ago for $799 and couldn't be happier. Paired up with a 280 AI and its hard to find an excuse when you miss.

[@Deleted6374]

Is the red dot on the Eliminator night vision compatible with a clip on? I’m thinking no, but figured I would ask.

[@montana375cheytac]

I just picked a xtr pro up, great optic.

[@mattd8411]

Never had a burris i love my leupold esp the vx 6. Always heard great things though. I freaking love his taco though.

[@BoostedMK6]

Basically like Sigs BDX technology which has been out for a bit. Showing the range is cool through the scope and the ability to shoot further. BDX is only good for 800 yards.

[@mtndeer]

Great video

[@francoisbm6785]

wonder if you could trust these electronic gismos at minus 15-20 C (deer season in Canada)

[@backfire]

Good question

[@hxl6162]

I have an ATN 4K with ballistic calculator and integrated rangefinder and it does perfectly

[@streamylc]

How far you able to accurately see out at night?

[@hxl6162]

@@streamylc If you use an IR laser it can illuminate as far as the laser's power can.

[@Mattytube18]

I used to race motocross in Greeley.

[@seanmtactical6069]

LOL, I know exactly where you are at. I've been lying in that exact spot with on of the Team Burris shooters before we shot the Wyoming Tactical Rifle Championship together. Looks like Sky and the boys threw out all the cool toys for you. That had to of been a good day.

[@Intimidator82]

We've come a long way since the days of carrying a quarter in our pocket to adjust the scope turrets, and I bet the pricetag reflects every bit of it. 😂

[@tracykooken2606]

sad isn't it !!!😢. i'm sooo tired INFLATED prices bcuz they can.

[@Intimidator82]

Yeah no kidding. Turning into a rich man's sport. I have benchmark powder at home that was bought 3 years apart, and a difference of 30 bucks a pound, Unreal!!

[@foubert45]

Would be good to compare to the Revic RS25b. Although the Revic doesn’t have range capabilities, it has on-board environmental capabilities.

[@porkburrito]

Thanks for coming to my home town 🤙

[@ericb.4358]

For me? The BURRIS Eliminator 6. Been lusting for that scope since it first came out. Because it makes for far lower chance of a poor hit wounding game it should be legal in EVERY hunting state. PLEASE do an entire video on the Eliminator 6 on your favorite hunting rifle.

[@RMM--uv7uk]

I would definitely buy one. But Washington State has Restrictions on Electronic scopes. Totally sucks!

[@beach3408]

I’m in Greeley CO, and think the Burris gentleman is my neighbor

[@jeffreykendrick3545]

I have the eliminator 4 and I absolutely love it

[@jeffreygiddings1864]

During your Burris scope video, are you shooting a Sako and a Tikka UPR. What was the model number of the Sako?

[@mr.tiger3072]

It’s a sako trg

[@joshtaylor1646]

Definitely going to purchase the eliminator 6

[@ivobiancucci4528]

I bought my 1st Burris scope 2.5-10x42 after watching the factory tour

[@dennisshuck1555]

Unfortunately, the Burris Eliminator is illegal to hunt with in CO. Colorado bans the use of a smart rifle, which includes any firearm that contains a "Ballistics Computer"

[@mistaBorg]

12:13 this "autocorrect" is the best kind of autocorrect

[@clcmarc]

After Tuesday night, I swore off any scope requiring batteries. Veracity PH had batteries (2) die after only 30 minutes of use. 20 minutes of that was trying to match up the Heads up Display and dialed turrets to the correct MOA. After discussions with Burris and sending in all my app settings, they came back and said I could not use G7 ballistics for my Hornady 147 ELD Match factory ammo. I had to use G1. As you can imagine, not a preferred work around. Manual said if batteries die in the field, you can dial turrets as normal. I tried that and could not hit the target at 350. Scope is off the 6.5 PRC and my Vortex Razor is mounted and hitting dead on at 350. Perhaps this is just a one off experience, but I will not trust a battery on an expensive hunt in the future. And they have to last more than 30 minutes. I religiously turn the scope off each time. And this all took place over 2 months waiting for good shooting weather.

[@qh4007]

Do you still need the windage part of reticle

[@user-hu1xg8dl4z]

Absolutely incredible 😲

[@scottre2131]

Ya got me with the white out 😂😂

[@CS-xg2xh]

If the markable turret is dry erase, why not remark it instead of needing multiple turrets for different conditions?

[@schristensen2508]

@backfire Could you do a video on the legality of using these scopes for hunting in different states? I want one of these scopes so badly but I know atleast for Colorado, the CPW brochure says smart scopes are illegal. If it’s illegal to hunt with it doesn’t do me much good.

[@user-pc7hb9hi9j]

I believe it is NOT legal to hunt with a scope that tells you where to aim in Nevada. Everything up to the red dot telling you where to shoot is tho.

[@FatManLeather]

I shoot in SE Colorado a bit, no trees there either.

[@ethanharris5556]

Me too. Just cedars mostly

[@HOG-cn8zd]

Battery life? I couldn't find any details on the website or manual.

[@Megellin]

Ok, I will admit that I was a bit skeptical when I saw the title, but now I'm curious how much those beast cost? Because I want one! especially the last one! I hate trying to set my scope for longer ranges while worrying my trophy is about to get away. I know certain my bad math has cost me more times than I would like to admit at well.

[@xXDaReasonXx]

I aint gonna lie i was skeptical clicking on this. But i can confidently say that this is the future of rifle scopes, thats epic. Im gonna have to have one when i build the right rifle.

[@johnpoc6594]

Sweet rifles aswell

[@briansupermag3918]

I'm definitely on the "Great optics cost $$) i am done with decent or good quality. Been there done that. My Delta Stryker 4.5x30x56 is the lowest quality i have left. But its a darn good optic. But its no where near the quality of my 2 NF ATACR's or Vortex Razor Gen III 6x36x56. Superlative glass. Sightron SVIII is also mega glass. Unreal.

[@TheTonygong]

Cool concept for sure. Sucks that Utah has all the scope restrictions

[@paulcox9366]

What's a scope restriction?

[@Tyanmax99]

@@paulcox9366 Electronics in scopes are illegal in Idaho and Utah as well. The only thing your scope can have is an illuminated reticle.

[@paulcox9366]

@@Tyanmax99 thanks. Actually surprised Australia doesn't have that rule yet. Coming hard and fast for us at the moment

[@phild9813]

It’s sweet technology, but it needs to be banned for hunting in all states. It just promotes long distance shots at animals.

[@backfire]

Agreed. I haven’t seen a shred of proof that more animals are taken with electronic scopes.

[@rayray9620]

I love Burris!!! Now I have to buy another scope.

[@stlpro2a386]

Feature sounds like previous Barrett BORS...Barrett Optical Ranging System.

[@roystephenson5607]

100 shot challenge with the Burris!

[@eiszeit9795]

how is the glass quality from the new eliminator? I bought the latest version last summer. But after a few days hunting i gave it back and got another one. But the same issue. Low light quality was an absolute disaster 🙈 really like the concept, but we’re hunting 99% red deer and stag and those come out only in the last hour in our area. but that wasn’t manageable with that glass quality. curious to see the price tag in my country for the new one. maybe I’ll give it a try once more.

[@dennismurray4088]

The 6 has insanely clear glass . The 4-5 had a yellow tint that hurt low light visibility . Check one out if you have the chance - you won’t be disappointed

[@sigurdurmarolafsson4183]

So how does the Veracity do against the eliminator??

[@aireydc]

Amazing! Nice job Burris!

[@altruisticscoundrel]

When will scope come with a built in anemometer?

[@jimyeats]

When they find someone who wants a spinning fan hanging off their scope that they then have to wave their gun around to get the direct cross wind measurement.

[@millhouse782]

@@jimyeatsNah, I use little weather stations for engineering stuff. No moving parts, ultrasonic anemometer with great accuracy.

[@YOUneedJESUS1]

Let me know when it's $500 or less. What's wrong with using mil dashes in the retical.

[@mxracer317]

I heard many States don't allow the eliminator 6 for hunting? Any truth on that @backfire?

[@groundzero6129]

Oregon is a no-go for them.

[@joshwilson7008]

I currently own the new veracity PH and I can verify: glass quality is much better!

[@terryhemmes6210]

Love the veracity ph

[@sappysiggy2351]

Im surprised we dont see this tech on others

[@natephillips1597]

Where can you get those write on turrents

[@rickbremmer3838]

The very scope I’m long at for my 300Norma.

[@40s9s3]

Burris pulling ahead from the back and gaining a lead

[@mohsenraghian210]

What caliber rifle is that?

[@dakotalucky13]

The last thing I want is more moving parts

[@geoh7349]

They might be a bit on the heavy side but I love my burris optics.

[@fyreflyte9066]

do you think that this might make people crapper shots though, as they are requiring tech to get what they need to do? like people who learn to drive with automatic cars and then try driving manual cars? dont get me wrong. i totally want one. just wondering is all.

[@helmutczichelski1454]

2017 Swarovski dS 5-25/53 ...

[@jbedh]

Do you believe the upgrade from last years model is worth the upgrade? I’m seeing it almost a 500 dollar difference.

[@mastrsk8]

Are they actually waterproof unlike the veracity you threw in the pool?

[@magwamagwa45110]

Scopes with battery features are not legal in Idaho to hunt with, but ok for shooting steel etc. 😢

[@Simon-talks]

wow, that's a communist law

[@magwamagwa45110]

@@Simon-talks No in Idaho you have to really hunt not rely on gizmos......

[@Simon-talks]

Yeah in china, you really have to rely on the government to be your daddy, you don't have the god given right to own a gizmo....

[@TheTrebans]

You can have a battery for lighted Reticle in idaho

[@magwamagwa45110]

@@TheTrebans yes but not range finder readout etc inside scope

[@pauljay1328]

Would you post a recoil pad to Australia cheers

[@tristanmack5779]

So I've been watching all of these new scopes come out, and believe me I am NOT a hater in any sense of the word. I find the technology really cool and amazing, however it kinda seems like everyone is copying Leupolds CDS system of just dialing for yardage instead of moa or mils. Sure they have the drawback of that turret being specific to that bullet and range of conditions, but being that I hunt in cold weather a lot the last thing I need is more batteries to worry about. To each their own, I currently use the Sig BDX system but yeah Leupold for me and most of my hunting 😁

[@lyndonhamby7432]

I’ve loved Burris scopes for 30 years

[@elcidcampeador9629]

Basically the gun version of the oracle bow sight

[@mastermoarman]

i like the eliminator and want one. maybe the 7 will incorporate the digital turret. sig has a similar setup but its a separate range finder that pares with the phone and scope to make the dot.

[@paultull7406]

I have the Older Burris Eliminator III, Laser Rangefinder Scope. I got it second hand, but the Lifetime Warranty is still Good. It’s Super easy to use, put crosshairs on Target, push Laser button, use the holdover red dot 🔴 as the point of Aim. Programming is a bit fiddley, pressing buttons, but they include a printed quick guide. I’ve used it on my 243 Bolt Action, to hit and group 1MOA on 500Y & 700Y targets. The Burris website App gets you close, with the Holdover Red Dot 🔴, but I just changed the drop number a couple of times to fine tune the Point of Impact and Point of Aim on a 500Y Steel plate. It also takes into account a target at higher or lower angles, by using an auto inclinometer.

[@jtn-minn8105]

They will but they'll milk the eliminator to about 8 and the PH to about 5.... Burris has a bad habit of releasing upgraded products every two years to milk a little more blood out of the turnip...Funny it took till the 5th eliminator before they could improve the glass, and then new PH majicaly has better glass the the original just released in 21 hmmm. Pretty sure the new Eliminator PHD in about 2030 will come with shitty glass too;)

[@peterdmatthews7427]

I have owed a Burris eliminator. I like the new scope, but my concern is most serious shooters don't use factory ammo. We use hand loads for accuracy. Doesn't sound like Burris is targeting our market anymore.

[@woodywoodpecker3643]

You can use the truing option to dial in factory loads.

[@MrKingArthurhk]

Seems to work well in open country. Useless for woods/brush hunters.

[@OneAster1sk]

Scared to price check these, heg

[@OkestCyclist]

The question is what states can you legally use the ph. Bunch of states don’t allow them.

[@backfire]

I only know of Utah and Idaho. Are there others I should know about?

[@OkestCyclist]

From what I have read in 2 CCR 406-0 it is not legal in Colorado. It talks about smart rifles and uses their verbiage as follows “Smart Rifles means any firearm that is equipped with one or more of the following” subsection 2(c) states “a ballistics computer.” It is vague as it doesn’t explicitly say what a ballistics computer is, however I don’t think I want to test the theory that it is ok. Being that Colorado and Idaho are two states with OTC tags for OOS residents, I’d just go with something else for the ease. Such a cool piece of tech though. Thanks for all you do. I’ve been through your neck of the woods to visit a buddy. Maybe I’ll bump into you next time I’m out there.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

Pretty cool scopes and technology. I am sure that there are multiple states where those last two are illegal. 😎🦌

[@levi5548]

Nice

[@reedehinger2636]

This is insanely awesome tech.