BACKLASH BUYING LUXURY!!??

BACKLASH BUYING LUXURY!!?? Not my usual video but I wanted to talk about this head on. This is not about how to afford designer bags or the best designer bags to buy. It’s about the luxury market and why do women in general try to shame other women who purchase luxury items. As many of you know, I shop high and I shop low so I thought this was a brilliant topic to dissect especially as a black woman. Remember, when wanting to learn how to find your personal style, it does not boil down to labels. It is about the mix and how you put together an outfit, whether it has a designer name or not. It’s about YOUR eye and learning to to find your style whether your budget is high or low.
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[@karlarussell3555]

i was absolutely a hater in the beginning, with the mindset of "dont spend your hard earned money making the white man rich by buying status items to show off" until I was in a position to buy something for myself. Then my mindset changed to :why cant I have what I want regardless of who creates it". it is the stigma that black woman don;t deserve nice things. We deserve more than anyone else and should get it and celebrate each other and help each other to get what they want and where they want to go. Let's be pioneers and set up future generations for greatness in all areas.

[@marriejames01]

I had this mindset too but decided if I’m going to buy luxury it’ll be something with a high resale value. That way my girls can sell it later if they want to.

[@missmyabcmissgm2918]

Amen! Preach. We get for ourselves what we deserve.

[@gailsokol7832]

Im saying this politely with no hate, no one deserves anything more than anyone else we are all the same. This comment actually rattled me .

[@wanderotter4667]

@@shirleyski6147 There's literally white male designers saying they don't like black women buying their bags...

[@lisacoop1107]

I believe black women deserve luxury, I just don't like when it to make a statement you made it in the world. Why is a Chanel bag more valuable than a bag created by a black designer. We support these designers but how do these luxury brands support us. I agree with setting up future generations for greatness with owning land, seating in the boardroom, finding a cure for cancer, or just high confidence to do what you want. Is our greatness defined by purchasing a bag? However, at the end of the day, If you like I love it! We all have the freedom to do what we want! :)

[@hiawathia81]

There’s some nuances that aren’t being mentioned here that have nothing to do with being black. There is a growing backlash in general about influencers and overconsumption, how fast fashion is affecting the environment and the quality of life of those who are helping to produce the gorgeous but expensive items ,the workers are suffering tremendously for it; The psychological impact of those who are trying to keep up with the jones, etc, the wakeup from the pandemic about consumer debt and overconsumption. I do not mean to undermine the premise of the video bc I have had a coworker comment on my handbags but said person spent lavish amounts of money on becoming ms new booty. That being said, i personally am on a new path and have joined the slow fashion community but I would never shame someone.

[@lindae6156]

Bingo. I think there are some good points made on black women having to prove or justify luxury purchases, but the points you made are the major call outs for me. Especially it being a pandemic and unemployment is at an all time high, there is major sensitivity with luxury consumption. Wish they touched upon that.

[@sylviagray4206]

Agree totally 💯

[@alansgail]

Totally agree with you here, too much fast, cheap fashion being peddled every day!

[@brywheatley864]

Totally agree.

[@nannyboo9832]

Spot on!

[@lenetteranger8327]

I used to work with a woman who would look me up and down whenever I came to work and had the audacity to ask me the price of my handbag. I told her "ENOUGH" I work for it, all of it, and what I paid for it is none of your business. However, you choose to spend the coins that you worked for is your business. Don't allow these miserable people to disrupt your peace and joy period!

[@fanniejohnson6439]

Just don't understand still there are people out there that Or jealous and don't care about anyone Or Anything Girl keep on doing you Because you are doing a really good job And see what they think about that

[@KhaoticKim]

Oh, you gotta have fun with ppl like this! "They were giving these bags away at goodwill!" "I don't know how much it costs, but I'll ask your husband and let you know!" 😉

[@FashionSteeleNYC]

Thanks so much Karen, Tamu, Candice and Paula for having this conversation. ❤️

[@d.y.e3803]

I'm also glad that they're having this discussion as this type of stuff has been going on forever. I'm in my mid-60s and dealt with this stuff as early as in middle school and onward. I would get such from some kids and of different races. They would try to project their upbringing onto me and try to make me feel bad for having nice things that their parents couldn't afford them. But, I didn't go for it and never apologized for having what I had. I was fortunate to have parents with high educations and professions that could afford my siblings and me nice things, nice vacations, solid education, etc. And I was grateful for it. And there were kids that I knew who had more than we had and I was happy for them. I don't do jealously. I just...do me. I went to public school with different races and students from a variety of family economic backgrounds, from poor to filthy rich and everything in between and I was a friend within all of the groups. Of course as a Black person, there were folks who thought that Black folks weren't supposed to have certain things and even some Black folks would think it which is sad. And this would come from both kids and adults and later employers. But, I came from a family who refused to let other people project us into their personal life situation and then try to decide what was best for us. My dads were and my 90-something mom still has always been onward and upward. And we always grew up around people of different economic backgrounds and races as my parents had/have friends to this day from different groups. It's really unfortunate that such silliness is still going on and we're now in 2021. What a waste of energy. And as for folks trying to tell other folks what they should or should not spend their hard-earned money on, well, it would be a lot better if folks just focused all of that energy on their own finances and households. I remember when being bullied by a group of kids in middle school who were upset that I had some things that they didn't have. I looked at them and asked if they would like to have the same things that I had. They answered, "yes". I then asked if it was OK if they had them and again they answered, "Yes". I then asked then why was it not OK for me to have the same things that they would like to have. I then got blank faces, but was never bullied again. I'm really proud of the young, Black women who have made it on KZbin and I hope that they continue to move forward and not backwards and never look back. There are times when one just needs to block out the noise as there will always be someone who is there to criticize what one has accomplished or is trying to accomplish and criticize about everything else. Greetings from Los Angeles.

[@lgee9027]

My son and his girlfriend STAY BUYING luxury designer items. They OWN BUSINESSES so they have assets working for them and they can buy what they darn well please!!!! My luxury is like facials and massages, everybody can define it for themselves without being judged

[@karenlyles8065]

❤

[@lover801]

I find this so confusing. When a blogger spends just as much money on an excess of “affordable” fast fashion no one says anything. Whereas you are buying mostly secondhand and really purchasing things you will have forever and truly love. Keep doing you Karen. ❤️

[@melikeetoo]

I think EXACTLY THE SAME THING! People do Target, Skims, Walmart, Zara Hauls and they don’t get the kind of reactions luxury purchases.

[@latoyapayne1907]

THIS!!!!

[@ndoni99]

That's because most people focus on the brand and it's level of accessibility. More people feel as if they can walk into Zara, H&M, and other fast fashion stores and buy those items than those who feel like they can walk into Chanel. It really is about jealousy, envy, and self-worth. It's all about "why does this person have access to that, when I don't?". Most don't even notice that some influencers show hauls from fast fashion brands that cost $$$$.

[@Androgynary]

Idk what bloggers you’ve been following but it’s actually becoming very popular on social media to drag influencers for hyper consuming fast fashion and calling them out for making brand deals with them

[@lindae6156]

@@Androgynary Yup been seeing this too.

[@vswick]

I live vicariously through you. Being on a teacher’s salary, I cannot afford a lot of high end pieces, but you have taught me how to be stylish. Because of you, I’ve leveled up & ditched fast-fashion. I love your content. I love how you inspire others. I love how divinely and exquisitely you style & appreciate clothing, bags, and shoes. Keep shining! You vibrate on a higher plane than most people. ❤️👊🏽

[@PossumLover1111]

I so agree. Having watched Karen now for a long time, she has definitely influenced me in many ways regarding what I wear. I feel braver to wear what I feel myself to be regardless of what anyone thinks of me. She gave me that courage. She's genuine, personable, beautiful, and professional. I adore her as a person and a successful KZbinr.

[@lovelyhyacinth6139]

Ditto 👍

[@heatherludwig1463]

Same…teacher’s salary, kids, mortgage, car payments. Not everyone can afford luxury.

[@najeebah1406]

I think it’s really great that you are having this conversation because it’s truly nothing I think about. I am a single mom living in Alabama and I have always tried to be frugal so my daughter could have what she needed. That being said, I love fashion and shows and bags and makeup. So I made it my mission to find the best for the least. I always get compliments and take pride in telling people the best thrift shops or how to know when things are going on sale. I only recently found your channel and I just love to see you being yourself and making it all look effortless. My daughter things I should do a fashion channel and I always tell her it seems like such hard work. I mean I will be dressed everyday regardless, but making a job out of it is a whole other thing. Congrats on all your hard work and success and let’s continue to talk about it and lift each other up. ❤️

[@hel3319]

Love this. 🙌👍🏻💖

[@zebralove2840]

Finding the best for the least, that's the way to go!

[@missdemeanor3524]

I agree!! And I think you're setting a good example for your daughter and your friends by being a financially wise fashionista. Personally, I get a great deal of enjoyment (and high-end clothes) by sewing them myself using Vogue designer patterns. These are the exact patterns that the designers use in their exquisite collections. And the ones that aren't licensed by the designers are copied from other designers, lol. I learned to see on a thrifted $5 sewing machine and curtains and youtube videos. I encourage everyone to give sewing a try!

[@najeebah1406]

@@missdemeanor3524 that is awesome! Sewing is such an amazing talent. I never fully learned. I did get my daughter classes before she went off to college. We gotta move the next generation along right?

[@latinaalma1947]

As a psychologist I am more concerned about the role of shopping, compulsive shopping, spending and self esteem to the individual mental health of women....to me that is a more important topic ie the mental health of women...all races and ethnic backgrounds. Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychologist and professor

[@skyro222]

Agreed, the collection of status items in conjunction to the "showing-off" on social media is really off-putting and unrelatable no matter how you try to justify it. It isn't a race thing for me cause I will stop watching anyone who does this.

[@lyndoraburroughs-robinson5663]

First off Karen your dress is fantastic 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽❤. Next , can Black Women just live their best lives. All this policing has gotten on my last nerve 😒.

[@Sky-dl5gu]

This is so good. A few years ago I moved into a luxury building in NYC. I’m like one of maybe less than 10 black people living here. And for the first two years, I felt a need to hide where I lived from others because they would question how I was able to live where I live (when I know if I were white or Asian, this would never be the case). I would even refuse to use my building amenities (even though I pay my rent here!) because as a black woman, I felt like it wasn’t right for me. So crazy. Thankfully over the last year or two, I’ve exposed myself to black people who enjoy luxury and listening conversations like this, I no longer feel ashamed of living in luxury.

[@showmustgoon5311]

Ashamed? Why? Come to live in a luxury building where I live. 😆 I see all my black neighbors enjoying amenities and living their best life and wearing luxury outfits driving luxury cars.

[@don_tastic6590]

I’m learning that luxury means different things for different people. It’s not always displayed via clothes, shoes, accessories, etc. It may also be shown by the ability and choice to hire outside help (i.e. a nanny, housekeeper, etc). Also, let’s not even talk about how it’s acceptable for men to hire help for “traditionally manly things” like lawn care and car maintenance but the moment a woman says she has a nanny or a housekeeper everybody wants to throw stones.

[@Talisa3636]

Yessss these are extremely valid points!!!

[@Talisa3636]

I’ve noticed a shift in my idea of Luxury. To me travel is my luxury and when I have kids, having an house cleaner once a month or even grocery delivery would be another luxury. Man even time is a luxury! honestly those things outlined on how men hired outside help really resonated with me because men don’t have to prove why they do thing they like; they just do it. I hope I will continue to stand strong in my enjoyment of luxury as a black women because we deserve. It’s not always about struggle to prove our “worth”.

[@don_tastic6590]

@@Talisa3636 I completely understand. Travel is a fantastic example as well. For some, doing a family road trip may have been the norm but the option to fly may be a new luxury afforded to them. Also, grocery delivery is fantastic! I highly recommend (and I don’t have kids lol)

[@Lafemmefutile]

I’m the US yes, that might be a luxury but for others living fir example in Africa, having a nanny/housekeeper are pretty common so it’s all about context. On the other hand, even a regular american making 70K a year could afford a housekeeper once a week for their apartment so Luxury is a matter of organizing. The truth is we spend a lot of money on nonsense and not on things that could really bring that self-care/luxury in our life.

[@b.abouttowwn]

This! I teach a class on money matters and social class. One thing for certain is the wealthy spend money on the experience (help, personal chefs, private clubs, travel, money management summer course for their children, etc), more than material items. Its interesting, really, how some equate consumption with wealth. This is a fascinating topic.

[@UmmAmirAbdullah]

I used to be all over luxury until I realized that I was tying my worthiness to the names on those luxury items. A lot of luxury whether too many items or the same item at thousands of dollars are just things. The fact is leather is abundant; it does not cost that amount to make those luxury items and its a get over. As a person who owns luxury bags, I feel a disconnect between myself and the items. Do I really love, desire, enjoy them, or am I in love with what I've been told the names should mean to me? Yes, Black women are flourishing in many ways. I just don't want Black women believing that spending thousands of dollars on luxury is "normal." In my opinion, it is not normal. Most are robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[@charchar_welcome]

I 100% agree with your opinion.

[@minimatty4370]

Well send 👏🏾

[@Lillias39]

This is so true. After owning my first luxury bag I was over the moon. Now after owning many, I don’t have that same feeling and I continue to buy them but it doesn’t make me feel special m, so am I just purchasing because of the name behind, perhaps. However, this was a great conversation.

[@yvelaing2146]

Agreed!

[@Stephanie-lc7hs]

Remember you said you have luxury items so let some else experience that feeling and develop their own opinion

[@anttoronto3202]

This happened before social media and influencers were even a thing. I’m almost 59, and in my 20’s and 30’s, women used to say, if they saw a new bag or shoes, “well when you don’t have kids”, or if going on a holiday, same comments. Selfishness was always implied without anyone even knowing your personal circumstances. We women have to stop tearing each other apart. I’m white, and this goes on as well. I just love Karen going through the thrift shops, your sweet relationship with your hubby. Love the REAL people you meet on the street in your “where did you get that” videos. ❤️

[@cramperella]

I am ambivalent. I adore quality but luxury is not synonymous with quality. We also live in a world where there is an enormous gap in wealth. I personally don’t like highly branded and labeled luxury brands because they can scream elitism. If you are comfortable with the reason for your choices, so be it. Poverty is not a state of mind…it is a sad reality for most no matter how hard they work . Hard work does not always result in financial success. Luxury and money have never been aspirational for me personally, but I understand that for most in North America it equates with having made it. The struggle with these issues is real and I think we need to acknowledge it. Do luxury if you want , but don’t ignore the impact of your choices. No choice we make in life is without an impact. We need to live consciously. We can still enjoy things without ignoring the impact of our choices.

[@jca628]

I hesitate to comment as I rarely engage with strangers on the internet but seeing as this 'discussion' continues to proliferate with little (self-) critical input or feedback, I'd like to offer one such perspective. Please bear in mind (not that it matters) that I'm a highly credentialed and highly upwardly mobile young Black woman who consumes 'luxury' goods. For self-proclaimed proponents of the "Black women deserve luxury" ~movement~, I'd like to ask a few questions. First, what is the political project being advanced and for whose benefit? That is, what is underneath this persistent need to claim increased ability to consume as a victory for Black women/the project of Black liberation? Relatedly, what if your consumption habits don't have to be ~radical~ and are simply what they are with all the complexities attendant to life under racial capitalism? Is convincing people that they don't have to struggle with the ethics of their consumption because "Black women deserve (as much as white women)" accomplishing anything other than papering over real tensions that need to be wrestled with? To what degree is the continued rehashing of a conversation that has, in my humble opinion, far outlived its usefulness (if it ever was useful) anything more than a manifestation of the status anxieties of (recently) upwardly mobile/classed Black people? Lastly, who is the audience for this conversation and who do you all consider your community? Relatedly, what are your expectations around how said audience/community engages with your content and do you feel accountable to that community in any particular way--specifically, given a business model centered on engagement, is the expectation that such engagement never be critical? I ask these questions because I'm increasingly concerned about the underlying politics and ideologies that are undergirding these recurring conversations and the broader impact they might be having. Specifically, I'm quite disturbed by the continued strain of "it be your own people" vis a vis the apparent critical responses from other Black women. I'd like to understand why there is an expectation of/entitlement to external validation for your choices. You work in an industry that is literally about making and sharing consumption choices and I think it should come as no surprise that considering the median wealth for a Black family in the US is roughly $24,000 (www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disparities-in-wealth-by-race-and-ethnicity-in-the-2019-survey-of-consumer-finances-20200928.htm) and that the planet is literally on fire (due in no small part to the fashion industry), people are gonna have questions/concerns around redistribution and the harms you might be perpetuating that might feel uncomfortable. I think it's worth sitting with discomfort rather than shying away from it under the guise of neo-liberal representational politics (i.e. I as a Black woman should get to move through the world in ways that might be just as harmful or destructive as white people because I face historical and contemporary oppression). I am also really alarmed by the "poverty is a mindset" comment--respectfully, poverty is not a 'mindset', poverty is a policy choice and a structural condition necessitated by capitalism which requires a pliant and disciplined class of people willing to work for crumbs to survive. This rhetoric strikes me as rooted in bootstrap thinking that is pervasive among certain classed Black people and serves to perpetuate the myth that if Black women (/people) work hard enough or put in enough effort, they too can find individual success under capitalism. In any case, this is not to take away from your individual accomplishments which I sincerely believe are worth celebrating; I guess I'm mostly writing this as a way to hold myself accountable--as I said at the start, I enjoy and consume luxury goods but I fear upward mobility has a way of detaching people from reality and I want to hope I maintain some sense of critical self-awareness. There's more I'd like to say but this is way too long already lol

[@alexandernevermind777]

I agree. Some of the elders in the FBA community stated the same arguments. You must understand the status quo doesn’t include us in terms of benefiting FBA as a whole. The sad part about it; we are a consumer class that doesn’t produce anything tangible that will benefit the group as a whole. It is a double edge sword.

[@Neinii97]

I'm sad I can't like this comment more than once! This sums it up in a brilliant way.

[@9mermaid9]

This is the comment that should be pinned to this video, instead of the one that currently is... I think we would agree that neo-liberalism successfully infiltrated the minds of most, if not all influencers (and most people in our "western" society in general).

[@Sucre014]

This is the best response and should be shared everywhere. You articulated this perfectly! Poverty is NOT a mindset and to be honest I believe this discussion of "Black women *deserve* luxury" is outdated and irrelevant. No one says we don't why belabour on a topic no one (but a few critics) are speaking on? There are many discussions we should be having like over-consumption, climate change, coming out of a pandemic etc. If you feel you have to shout that you deserve luxury, you need to check yourself internally on why what people say matters so much to you. We shouldn't destroy the planet or engage in unsustainable practices just because others are doing so - I'm not saying we cannot enjoy the finer things in life, it's not a burden to be mindful of others and our earth.

[@deborahbourne9496]

Well said! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@cavelleardiel]

The only issue I have with "influencers" focusing on luxury (specific brand names) is that there are so many small designers and artisans that produce quality and unique items. If it makes you feel joyful and allows you to check off a bucket list item then go for it!

[@theaansel8738]

I agree I wish more influencers showed smaller quality brands just to have more variety. I watch because I love the content and the creativity, please remember that more viewers appreciate than hate.

[@Lafemmefutile]

These brands don’t have the budget to pay these women for their styling work. Sure they can present some random items they find but what of the sponsorships, affiliates links, etc…

[@cavelleardiel]

@@Lafemmefutile I understand that. And sometimes I think some, not Karen, will do hauls and send the items back just to get people to make money. If I am suspect of those people I no longer follow them.

[@xolani1619]

It’s none of your business though even if someone has a higher quality than the namebrand which they might have it’s none of your business they can spend their money however they want if they want a Gucci bag that I’ve been saving up some thing with a child again it’s an accomplishment for them they want that they can spend their money however they want that I want to get a bag from somebody else

[@TenTenJ]

Yes me too. Influencers weigh heavily on iconic brands, And they themselves having to work so hard should be even more conscious of artisan work and showing it off and influencing those types of creations. Sadly the smaller brands, who work really hard and sometimes actually make the most original work, remain on the bottom of the feed.

[@sarat1625]

I think the discussion is warranted to a certain extent, but I will also say that I find myself flinching at the topic because this isn’t unique to black women. I understand that Candice initiated the discussion a few months ago with her IG post, but as a black woman, I really don’t want us to get bogged down or continue to perpetuate the idea that this is something only black women do. In retelling her story, Candice said that she’d scrolled by multiple white women who were showing their luxury items, but she didn’t have as visceral a reaction as when she saw a black woman showing her luxury items. I’d put money on it that those white women influencers have fellow white women followers who probably reacted similarly-“Ugh, she’s showing off again” (or whatever)-when they saw said luxury items from white women. I don’t know. I just don’t want us to miss the forest for the tress on this topic by being hyper focused on black women.

[@charmainex7164]

This is very true, women do it black or white just ask white influencers. However black women seem to be more boisterous about criticising others. This this is a defensive behaviour to protect themselves because if you can have the achievement (luxury item in this case) the next thought is why can’t I, which then means they have to take responsibility for themselves and change if they are to accomplish this, but of cause to criticise is easier than self analysis and change.

[@Thatbolingergrl]

I agree. I feel like the dragging down of other women who “have” is there in all races. There will always be the aspect of jealousy and wanting what someone else has. I feel that the younger generation is just a bad as an older generation judging. I agreed and disagreed about these feelings coming from past hurts and the ancestors, I feel at some point we have to get past that through all the years. There are so many cultures of POC that have suffered past wrongs and yet even without drudging up these there is always the human nature to be negative when viewing something you feel cant be attained. Sorry, Im going on and on with your comment. I just agree with your point.

[@jocampbell6962]

I completely agree with you. My thoughts exactly. There is no doubt about it, that the behaviour of envy/jealousy/trolling etc goes on in the white community. I've seen their discussions about it too. If anything, going through this pandemic has taught us.....Find Your Happy....😃

[@sarat1625]

@@charmainex7164 Black women aren’t more boisterous on this, though. That’s the thing. Like, we’re literally not unique on this.

[@suzannem5495]

I agree wholeheartedly with your comment. I do not feel this is unique to black women. As a person who enjoys luxury items, I will also get flack from my husband - why am I buying such things? Why not invest? It comes in all shapes and forms. It may be a bit much to ask us to be more than human…

[@MsGlobegirl]

I think we're beating a dead horse here. Specifically what comments are being made that is "offensive" to black women who purchase luxury? Just Live! Why do y'all care! Also this is what comes along when you're on the internet and unboxing and flossing a $20K bag for 40 straight minutes. This isn't just about luxury items. This is also about anything you do in life that shows success. Why apologize - just Live.

[@12stokes]

I agree! I would like to know who stated that Black women don't deserve luxury because maybe I've missed seeing those comments. Luxury influencers in general receive hate for purchasing luxury -- with the ever so popular "there are starving children in Africa" comments, so I'm confused about when this criticism became reserved for Black women.

[@Love-dc5tq]

Maybe it’s an internet thing because I’ve never had anyone say anything to me and they better not

[@jacquelinew3881]

You’re all amazing role models to all women of any color in my opinion, and pioneers in what you do. I’m 52 and I have never owned a Chanel or Hermès among other things but if I wanted it bad enough I’d have it for sure. Some women (or people in general) stay stuck in a negative mindset of lack that just perpetuates..and project jealousy, envy, hate onto others only because deep down they want what you have. Took me 50 years to figure that out lol. Anyway do you, you’re fabulous! 😘

[@jocampbell6962]

Yeah, took me that long too! 😅🙈 Great comment👌🏾

[@antoinettelail2434]

Thank you for speaking on this topic. We as "Black Women" need to support and lift each other up. When we learn to love ourselves we will learn how to love people who look like us.

[@bluegypsy71]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼This is a very important conversation...this extreme judgement has occurred far too often among the Latin community as well...there is an sometimes insidious glee that comes from tearing other women down or assuming that they got what they have by sleeping around and tying their “success” to anything other than hard work and a passion for improving themselves.💔

[@tiffanyhoward9935]

I’m in tears! This conversation is so liberating. I love vintage and thrifting but often feel like I’m required to explain even nice thrifted items. Also, for years I kept my savings and life insurance a secret from friends due to a fear of judgment. This conversation is freeing. I’m having church in my kitchen while I enjoy this conversation. I’m thankful my black daughter thinks she’s rich. She buys whatever she wants but she balances it with fierce saving. Thankful, thankful, thankful!!!! Thank you beautiful ladies. ❤️🌺🎁🌿

[@itsme_d7841]

Buy your luxury items and live your best life. People will find something negative to say not matter what.🤷🏽‍♀️ I had a friend tell someone I do to much.💁🏽‍♀️

[@SociallyStaciJ]

It’s the audacity for me. Even if I felt envious of what someone else had, why would I feel empowered to share that on someone’s platform. I have a relatively small platform, but I do refrain from showing really high end pieces on my channel because I’m so afraid of it coming off as a boast or a brag. I just started wearing my Chanel bag to work.

[@jennaclark5516]

Wow it's funny you said this because I just brought a piece of luxury jewelry and a perfume I felt like maybe I didn't need it but I made it through a pandemic . I wanted to be kind to myself and start getting things I really like. Oh well it's there problem not mine

[@camillegonnelli1405]

Wear the Chanel. Get another!

[@2shejack]

I really loved this conversation. So many things to digest here and there is a lot to think about. For me, having this awareness within myself is important. I am guilty of having this attitude towards myself and others, and I had to check myself on those occasions. Black women are deserving of rest, respect, luxury, and success! We are WORTHY of it all. PERIODT!

[@denisadellinger4543]

I am not black so I listened to this with an open mind. To see things from another perspective is eye opening. Sisters should not tear each other down because of their financial status and the ability to buy luxury items. The only thing that should limit anyone from buying what they can afford and want is how much money they make. We live in a wonderful country where we are not limited to where we came from. We can do anything we want to to better ourselves. Everyone envies the rich girls at one time or other but it shouldn't take any of our energy and steal our joy. It is not worth it. We are at one of the best times for women of all backgrounds. We can do anything we want to and accomplish our goals. We can reach for the sky. Everyone has to work hard, it is not selective to only black women but to white women as well. We can have it all if we want. Go for the best! I love my beautiful Britchick Karen. She has personality the size of all outdoors, she is unique, an artist, and an influencer to all women and she has a beauty that draws all to her. That's why I love her.

[@marcellacuevas1442]

Be aware! It is not all black women that feel this way, they chose to focus on the jealousy that places them on the receiving end of the backlash.

[@yvettephillips8797]

Beautiful comment. 💕

[@yvettephillips8797]

💕

[@daretoberare6435]

I love this conversation and thank you ladies for shining a light on my own lack of self worth. I would also like to say that it’s no one’s business how you afford what you buy. NO explanation needed! I can now say I truly enjoy my sistas affording Luxury you inspire me and show me what’s possible for me

[@CeejTalk]

Love that we are exploring the definition of "luxury". Let's continue to be positive and supportive of black women. We have enough people against us. Let's cheer for each other!

[@sofiastanley6518]

"...because I have been taught to walk like I am a King" - tears....I so needed everything that is wrapped in this statement

[@kmreed295]

Is so true that it’s no one’s damn business how other women spend their money. I have certainly been a bit judgey when I’ve seen influencers with a lot of “stuff” but it’s my job to remember my manners and keep it to myself- And remind myself to mind my own business! I have the freedom to not watch if it gets me in a tizz of self righteousness. Thanks for the conversation and reminder ladies😘

[@emmdear2337]

Thank you for addressing this topic. I think a good portion of this topic is rooted in sexism. Men are not nearly as lambasted as women are in terms of their finances. Women cannot go a single day without being critiqued about something. Liking fashion is a hobby - a valid one at that.

[@wanderotter4667]

It's all rooted in late stage capitalism, systemic racism and classist idea's.

[@emmdear2337]

@@wanderotter4667 Yes it certainly is!

[@nataliescott25]

💯

[@sparklechild]

I loved this truly. It was like eating a delicious meal and thinking “I didn’t know how much I needed this, right now. When I was 6 & 7, I would show my mother all the pretty dresses in the Sears Catalog, and unbeknownst to me she would put me into bed and sew. She sewed on her singer sewing machine every night until she finished a lovely dress for her daughter. By the age of 15 I was saving up my money for The September Issue of Vogue. By the time I was 16 my walls too were covered with Glamour, 17 Magazine and Vogue. Your talk brought back so many wonderful memories. Thank you 💕🦋🧚🏼‍♀️

[@tania0070]

Indeed! I have been made to feel bad for buying luxury. I've been shamed and thrown negative comments, like I am not worthy to buy or wear whatever the hell I want to.

[@queenofthesouth4205]

Keep going Sisters...haters are to going hate. I wear my luxury items daily. I celebrate me#BLACKLUXURY #BlackRoyalty

[@thepinksnob7370]

You are very worthy!!

[@PossumLover1111]

WOW!!!!! This has been one of the most excellent videos I have ever watched!!!! So inspirational so enlightening. For the record, I'm a 64 yr. old white woman living in Houston, Texas via San Francisco, CA. The topic was really fascinating. I have been justifying buying something that cost more than I've been comfortable with and rationalizing why I want it. That stops now. All women deserve beautiful things that makes them feel good, happy, content, worthy. Thank you Karen and all you beautiful women for this most incredible video. Y'all are amazing and remarkable individuals. xoxoxoxo

[@mm5342]

It’s awful that some women have to pick apart other’s lives and what they have. I suppose if you’re in the public eye then that comes with the territory. But how gross that some want to even ask how did you afford that. It’s no ones business but yours. Smart people will realize that you’ve worked hard for what you have. Let’s celebrate successful women and women working so hard to get to where they want to be in life. I want women to know that they can do it for themselves.

[@tyoung3509]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@refugeofthoughts8870]

I agree, I would feel weird asking someone how much they spent on something or how they afford it. People think they’re entitled to know everything when they aren’t.

[@Cheree_Wright]

We’re living during sensitive times. People have lost their lives and livelihoods during the pandemic. Due to the current climate, Sensitive individuals ought not watch “ luxury “ creators. It’s a weird world now where we show people what we bought and what we have for entertainment. I recently became a creator here on KZbin and it is kinda weird lol. Creators are not responsible to change their content. I don’t think this is a black issue though. I think too much time spent watching what others are afforded (especially when u are unable to afford the same things )can negatively impact one’s view of themselves. I enjoy watching how others live, and I am inspired at times by what I see. At the end of the day material goods are just that. Some are into the beauty of these goods ( I love special items), and some don’t care as much- they may not regard them as special. For some it just seems like excess and flossing what you’ve got. If it offends you, tune out

[@karenmyers3672]

I totally agree with you. It is a weird concept that we find entertainment value in watching these "hauls" of what others purchased! What bothers me the most is when a luxury brand is promoting a new "it" bag, they gift it to the influencers and everyone is unboxing the same thing. This is so repetitive and boring and that is when I tune out. What I like about Karen's channel is that she mixes the high end with vintage finds and I appreciate how she puts things together. I hate to see someone wearing all Gucci or whatever, it isn't creative to me. I have stopped following many influencers when I feel triggered by all the excess. We have that power, just don't watch if it bothers you. I thought your comment was so insightful!

[@prairiepickingirls8887]

Tuned out!

[@abibee884]

Yes 👏🏿 yes 👏🏿 and 👏🏿 it’s not just black influencers that get hate for luxury . We all get it and quite frankly give hate to each other in other aspects of life . Even when u share a pic of your baby… some sister will find something negative to say 💁🏽‍♀️. It’s deep !!! Thanks girls for airing this 🙌🏾

[@tamaranadinecoyle]

I think this is a great discussion. I am sure not only black influencers receive backlash on luxury brand hauls/blogs, but the outrage they get certainly goes up a notch. You only have to see the recent 'outrage' stylist Melissa Holdbrook-Akposoe's recent collab with Mercedes to see that in action. It's sad because it leads so many women, particularly women of colour, suffering from Imposter Syndrome, feeling they are not deserving of their success and by osmosis, having a nice lifestyle or acquiring luxury items.

[@sparklemocha8781]

"If you are a Black woman determined to be happy by any means necessary, get over your fear of judgment, and any desire for validation. Your journey towards liberated bliss will lead you into uncharted terrain and unconventional life choices-- and some folks will be big mad." Ayesha Faines said it best! 💚 Love love this Commentary 😍. Definitely opened up some serious dialogue. Job well done to all the ladies on the panel! 🥰

[@pblalock68]

Why is it that we find the victim narrative in just about everything. If you want to buy whatever you want to buy then buy it. Stop looking for validation in what you do. I really don’t understand why there was a Bill Cosby reference regarding to fashion.

[@beinglatanyarenee7334]

I understood where she was going but got lost when we got to Bill. Well I understood what she was trying to convey I just don't think it was necessary for this topic.

[@pblalock68]

@Jeffery White I don’t and I assume responsibility for the things I do. Influencers and gatekeepers like keeping people in a victimhood mentality.

[@pblalock68]

@@beinglatanyarenee7334 This is how “the powers that be” spin narratives and keep people in an emotional state.

[@pblalock68]

@Jeffery White It is at a point that it is sickening.

[@tamarapearson6320]

Thank you, Karen for always being a beacon of light. We, as Black women must uplift ourselves and each other. Trying to pull each other down, like crabs in a barrel, will never result in our freedom. Audre Lorde said it best, "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house."

[@rubysteward2199]

My family say the same thing to me about spending money on luxury. I could careless. I love my life the way I choose. Wear and buy what you want people you only get one life.

[@sylviasid9902]

Great conversation. Reminds me of the criticism Simone Biles received for having a GOAT on her leotard. Black women are supposed to be apologetic for every success. Everyone is happy to hear about our trauma, though. Jealousy is a waste of energy. Use that energy to get yours. Luxury is making yourself happy. You define what that is…TFS!

[@sosexymagazinerobinwatkins8467]

Yesssss

[@tyoung3509]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@cb4664]

OMG totally well said….

[@classysassy1391]

I really enjoyed the content. When I started watching KZbin 12 years ago, it was very few if any luxury black KZbinrs to watch. Since I enjoy luxury items, I love to see women that look like me that enjoy them as well. Karen, this conversation was so needed and well received. I hope you do more videos about this subject because black luxury should be the norm not the exception.

[@brendaknight5128]

Karen I am one of your elders and I find your u tube Chanel so refreshing. I follow you because you are funny, creative ,smart and entertaining.Finally,you love fashion and have you own unique style just like me.

[@theresaroberts8818]

"SISTAS NEED TO WORK IT OUT"!!!!! Candace is the BOMB----"People need to just BE..."!!!! LIFE is about a COLLECTION OF EXPERIENCES and the "THINGS" we acquire during these EXPERIENCES are part of each person's journey, but should never be used to define us as SPIRITUAL/SOUL BEINGS.

[@AkiaDanielle]

Thank you Karen for doing this video and thank you Paula, Candice, and Tamu for your insights. I was taught to think big and go for more, but because backlash for being me , being called bougie, or just negative vibes all together I dulled my light. This conversation has made me feel so much better. I am definitely tipping the scales back and creating the life I want. 🥰❤️

[@sherrylldominique4990]

I used to be the girl that asked... “how can she afford that” I also do it with white women. I don’t do it to shame it’s genuine curiosity because I wanted to acquire those things. Now being in a space to start my luxury collection, I see more women with multiple streams of income. I’ve even had to correct myself to see if they have rings on their fingers. I have stopped doing this, I can’t compare myself to other people and I can’t count other people’s coins. You’ll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out other people’s lives.

[@mazza30plus]

I don’t covet what other people have. Enjoy your things and take no notice what others say. Some people can just about feed their families and cannot relate.

[@eloisaguerrero8381]

👍💞🙏

[@patriciag.garrett1006]

OMG I just checked myself. I realized I was the topic of conversation and really got up and went to go look in the mirror. I said they are talking about you and "you"(me) should be ashamed. I should be happy to see our sisters looking beautiful in any forum or fashion. At 65yrs I learned more today about myself than the 65yrs on this earth. Bless you my sisters for the eye opening experience. 💝💝💝

[@sosexymagazinerobinwatkins8467]

Hugs to you my Sister.

[@claresiamoore7353]

Thank you ladies, I haven't thought about the lash back you must get from just reaping rewards form your hard work, it was heart wrenching to hear. Karen, I am a OG follower I think from around 2015, I have watch you strife and grow over the years. I myself love to see my sisters step out and up on there journey. My thought have always been simply to each their own. We all have our own past to travel and we don't have to take the same route. it sad that this conversation even had to take place. I am waiting to see what that next big thing will be. YOU GO GIRL

[@lemonjuice1977]

Honestly, I find this whole convo a bit tone deaf. Luxury fashion is not attainable to most Black women. We will never be in a position to spend 3k on a purse. It’s not about feeling worthy, I feel very worthy of nice things. But I can not afford them. I don’t think anyone should be shaming others, but this false victimization is strange to me.

[@alansgail]

Nor is luxury fashion attainable to most white women either. Not everything should be made about race, there are many white women who can’t afford luxury and even if they are able to purchase it pre-loved they still don’t feel “worthy” or comfortable carrying a luxury bag.

[@teah80]

I totally agree.

[@MsGlobegirl]

Indeed this is false victimization at its finest. I feel there are deeper rooted issues in these women and a lack of understanding of their own triggers.

[@msveejay75]

This is not limited to high priced items/handbags. It's a mindset/lifestyle.

[@polapoliczkiewicz7590]

"Just to allow people to be" - so simple, so important - thank you, Paula

[@RosieVGuevara]

I thank you for this conversation and feel everyone had amazing points. However I will say that the luxury brands that you have highlighted in past videos are brands that have a history of discrimination against black women. For example Hermès. I feel that everyone should purchase what makes them feel good but I wish that there was also a discussion on the history of these brands and why we should look into purchasing from luxury brands that do not have a racist history. I have worked in fashion for over 20 years and I can say with confidence that the discrimination continues even with this new illusion of change. These brands do not have people of color ever in design..and if they do it is lower positions for the appearance of inclusion. Just a thought for next discussion.

[@OhSoCarmen]

Yes, thank you for bringing this up.

[@RosieVGuevara]

@@OhSoCarmen thanks! with all that’s going on right now I find it difficult to watch videos like this these days. It’s just not for me anymore. No disrespect to these fashion bloggers…just in the a different place.

[@OhSoCarmen]

@@RosieVGuevara I definitely understand. We all change and go through phases. If you ask me, that video was very silly and hard to watch even if you enjoy fashion videos . I could only watch a few minutes of it. Go in peace ✌

[@RosieVGuevara]

@@OhSoCarmen totally agree 100%

[@belindahearn721]

This was absolutely wonderful. I am an African American woman and I think that what was said was needed and hopefully, this will not be the last time this conversation is had and I celebrate each of you for celebrating us, educating us, and holding us accountable about our beliefs of one another and ourselves. Peace and blessings to you all, love it. This made me feel so good and it is such an educational tool I am sharing with friends.

[@maxdminimalist715]

Ooooooh this was so good! Triggered a memory of an "ex friend" 😉 leading her friends in an attempt to shame me for having purchased a $99 Coach bag on Ebay! Fast forward a few months and she was showing off her own bag purchased on a trip to the U.S. And with no sense of embarrassment or self-awareness. The pettiness and jealousy is real. And so very unnecessary. Thank you for this. 😘😍🙏🏾

[@sosodef0]

"There is room for all of us to succeed." YES!

[@rubysteward2199]

The lady in the red and white plain was dropping gems 💎 💎 great convo💙

[@nicolej615]

When I see black women on YT with a luxury product I say to myself, she’s probably worked hard for that item, because I see myself in her. As a professional, high earning woman I appreciate hard work in any capacity. It’s hard work composing videos and content and keeping up with thoughtful content. And that comes with success. I just bought a luxury vehicle after having my Camry for 20 yrs. I know there are folks around me appraising the affordability based on their financial status but applying that to me. No don’t. We have to enjoy our lives and not care how others will mindset and a black womens’ value.

[@lindahind2205]

Nicole Jones: I hope you enjoy every moment of driving that car with a big, well-deserved smile on your face! Stay well.

[@nicolej615]

@@lindahind2205 thank you Linda! I will.

[@gailsokol7832]

I think the same when i see a woman of any race or colour with a luxury item.

[@Themelissaeppingermorningshow]

Love this convo! Karen brought up the idea of people wanting to keep you where they found you. I have to agree with this thought. I believe that it speaks to that persons insecurities, broken conscious, childhood patterns, crab mentality, and lack of self love and worth. I tend to question how people who look like me get the bags and luxury items too. However, I question it because I want those things for myself. I understand that there is a place at the table for me too! Bravo to you and anyone who can afford what they love and enjoy! Go, do and BE!!!

[@serenesineath]

Interestingly, the whole concept of “influencer” nowadays is one who “influences” people’s buying habits. Whatever is linked provides a commission to the influencer who posts it. Fair enough. I get it, it’s a job. Honestly, for the most part I just don’t watch ANYONE’s luxury videos because it’s just not that interesting to me. I can look at the websites and see the items. I think what gets lost in the discussion is the fact that we, as viewers, create influencers. If we don’t like something, don’t watch. If we don’t like where that person is going, unsubscribe and move on. Conversely, popular influencers make a LOT of money and have access to a lot of products most of us just can’t afford on a regular basis. Again, fair enough…..but I truly believe, you have to take the cons with the pros. Critical comments that are easily deleted? Who cares? It’s not taking money out of your pocket and it’s a small fraction of your overall engagement. The same public forum that provides you with the means for luxury items, also provides your audience an opportunity to criticize if they want.

[@mrscwhite18]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I AGREE WELL SAID

[@karenmyers3672]

Agree! I think that if you are going to make your career as an influencer and put yourself out there in public, you should expect that everyone isn't going to love it, or might have an opinion that differs. I find that if the influencer doesn't like the comment that doesn't agree with them, they get insulted. Isn't that though the real world. I had a retail store for years and not everyone that walks in the shop loves what you carry. Working with the public is not easy, there are wonderful people and then there are those that aren't so kind. It is the product of working with the public. On youtube I think they are called haters. I call them people with different opinions. Like you said, if it isn't interesting, don't watch, unsubscribe.

[@jimmills9631]

I must admit - when Karen starts some of her videos with a plug / advert I feel as if I’m being used.

[@Debbiediamond0310]

Well freaking said.

[@AG-kp4sh]

@@jimmills9631 It's like making a new friend you feel you click with and then it slowly dawns on you they are trying to sell you something from their pyramid scheme, lol! But seriously, "influencers' is just a nice word for manipulators.

[@denisepatterson065]

This was everything and then some. Oh my goodness, i am so proud of you beautiful Black women, I love your unapologetical womanhood and all that great energy you give us. Thank you, from a middle aged woman who is unapologetically Black and been through some of the things you spoke about. 👊🏾👊🏾❤🔥🔥

[@swabrren]

Love this convo and the mindset around defining luxury for yourself and what that means for your day to day life.

[@lorrainepalmer2952]

Your discussion reminds me of a time when I had luxury on a fairly regular basis. I faced red-eye but I also faced gossip. Now, I ignore red-eye and the gossips. But keep on with wearing what makes me feel good.

[@jenf836]

I know sometimes i need a break from “luxury”. Majority of us can’t afford a lot of those luxury items. Sometimes i watch videos and they a are buying a new channel bag once a month. We all have to admit the average working woman can’t afford that.

[@HarrisPilton789]

I don’t watch those videos. I like Karen’s vintage and thrift haul videos. And the street style videos.

[@MC-dq6xb]

Thank you for this conversation. It’s truly commendable. The scarcity mentality when expressed, leads to shaming and that is so sad because each one of us is not defined by what we have or not have. Thank you to the panelists for a most thought provoking conversation. Really really awesome!

[@stacy2816]

I think when black women see other black women in a luxury item, whether is be shoes or a bag, it becomes personal for them because they assume that that black woman shares the same lifestyle experience and "if I can't afford it. How can she afford it?" I think sometimes that's where the though process and the judgement stems from. We are still not used to seeing black people have wealth and if they do have some wealth, it is should be hidden and not flaunted. For me, it is the opposite. I find it inspiring! It makes me see that I too can achieve being able to afford luxury items one day.

[@alyssalane3442]

Wow good point !!

[@tellingpool]

That is true. I also have to remind myself that luxury fashion is not the same as buying expensive Nikes (not dissing those who buy expensive Nikes...but I think there is a perception issue re: cost of things vs. things that are well made, or made with care, are high-design and cost more). My mother lived a "less than" life because I believe she felt it was not her place to step up her lot in life. Because of her issue with fashion and beauty, I wanted it so much and this channel's talk today is so necessary for me to hear.

[@antheawharton]

I think it was a great discussion to have, I think if people have an issue with what anyone shows on their channel. They do have the option to not watch, I watch and it’s encouraging for me. I think it’s fantastic to watch and see the unboxing and the joy some of the items bring . I will continue to watch and enjoy xx

[@ms.inspiration385]

Absolutely EXCELLENT conversation! Whether you're an Influencer, A Business Woman or a House Wife & you have the means, you DESERVE to treat yourself & get what you want. Yes, it's the MINDSET. Once you change your mindset & know that you are WORTHY of that luxury item-- that you DESERVE a dream vacation, that car, that massage or whatever you deem is your type of 'luxury'--you will live in your truth & your own freedom. I follow most of you on Instagram & yes, you each INSPIRE me. Ladies continue to Live Your Truth Freely & continue to Inspire others!!! LOVE THIS!! REPRESENTATION MATTERS!

[@iamvirginiaweatherspoon2208]

Karen I am glad that you are having this discussion. It’s much needed. Every since I started work a long time ago and made my own money and bought what I wanted I have been picked apart, scorned and hated by other women. Mind you I am not buying the luxury items you are referring to I am talking about just buying what my money can afford me and what I want. It’s just things and anyone can have them that my thoughts. ❤️

[@dr-k1667]

Karen! Jealousy and self hatred is a dam pandemic in this world. We are here for you and your content. I enjoy what you bring especially your energy. If people want to backlash about ANYTHING it's not about the price of a thing, is the misplaced RESPECT for people and things. Our values are not in things but for those who don't get it... well they have deeper issues.

[@FashiondoneWright]

Omgoodness! I still find myself at times catching myself like I need to make an excuse about my luxury purchases, this was so much needed. Often see other channels of black woman sharing their items and the trolls coming for them. Thank you Karen for addressing this issue. Ladies, we worked hard (I know I did retired now) and should be able to buy what we want, without feeling guilty or jealous. (IT'S GOOD OVER HERE)

[@susanswenson4091]

I am white and find this fascinating, yet sad. I think women regardless of color can just be nasty to each other. White women are very judgemental too. Love each other and be happy for each other.

[@nicolej615]

People tend to project their crap onto people living their life. And we need to start to ignore them. I still don’t share much at work about the great things happening to me in my personal life because divulging it may hinder my career, or to work on high profile projects. I still in my senior status at work have that fear.

[@chocolatedivamom4618]

Ladies, this conversation was so beautiful. Thank you Karen and friends - "IT'S GOOD OVER HERE"

[@keneesha]

Thank you for this. This topic needs to be discussed frequently. Please do this again with a Live so the audience can chime in. As a creator of Luxury beauty products this is a real challenge in my world from Black women. I say all of the time that we are just beginning to feel we have permission to buy luxury in all categories. You hosting this dialogue helps me keep on pushing through to offer better services and products for black women even though there is a lot of hurtful backlash from black women. You are the best. Love your channel and all that you do. Excited to support your new brand too!

[@Yoliwe]

I can afford luxury and I've no problem with black women having and deserving luxury BUT I think the issue is that there are so few of us who can afford these items despite, all grafting we are doing. We have always influenced style but not at such unattainable costs. Due to our position in society, for many of us the amounts spent on 1 item are what we have to spend on food, clothes, rent. Black influencers aren't responsible for this but don't seem to acknowledge their 'privelege' - it sometimes seems like they are tone deaf. I love my luxury but I also I'm in a minority

[@itscamerongarrison]

GIRLLLLLL!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 why do I feel like I know who you’re talking about with all the Chanel bags!! I think my eye twitches every time. Thanks for introducing me to these black beauties!!

[@darnellgibbs7172]

Thank you for this chat I was recently criticized for buying a seventy five dollar plant. It was so beautiful it brought tears to my eyes. I love beautiful plants no matter the cost if it makes feel good and think how awesome God is. Love love the chat

[@cece2930]

This unique conversation has opened the gateway. A discussion on financing a luxury lifestyle may give better understanding and help eliminate negative attitudes.

[@cateye1344]

Just some half-baked thoughts while listening to this: This reminds me of discussions about people who use government help, food stamps, etc. They will be criticized for wanting to use that resource for ‘luxuries’ like smart phones. I think people just think certain groups of people are not deserving of luxuries or they just can’t imagine that certain people can be in a position of affording those luxuries. I think it’s something that also intersects with the rise of minimalism and environmentalism which have been made trendy by white people. Suddenly when there’s some upwards mobility, when women, especially women of color, have income, when we’re the ones beginning to establish inter generational wealth, luxury and maximalism is seen as a bad thing. It’s seen as tacky or wasteful not even considering how those of us in low income households have BEEN doing sustainability and minimalism not by CHOICE but NECESSITY.

[@sosexymagazinerobinwatkins8467]

Yesssss I've said this too when commenting on other channels. We all want good things, to wear gorgeous clothes, carry a gorgeous purse, drive a gorgeous car, live in a gorgeous house... WE ALL DESERVE TO HAVE, BE GORGEOUS. I refuse to double down because of a hater's jealous or self hatred.

[@sparklemocha8781]

Someone receiveing asst from the Govt., Majority knows how much your getting monthly. To walk around with Jordans and iPhone immediately shows priorities are not in place nor budgeting for necessities. Woman buying luxury have to maintain a budget for large purchases so I feel the two can't compare.

[@marriejames01]

The majority of people on welfare are WP and that has been statistically proven. I’m not sure why you felt the need to bring up welfare vs luxury and POC.

[@pnkpixie84]

To the comment about "iPhones and jordans"... What makes you think that the women buying luxury items have their "priorities in place" or if they even budget??? They could quite literally have debt coming out of their eyeballs, have no savings, health insurance, life insurance, etc. Poor shaming isn't any better than luxury shaming...

[@gracelsls3366]

Not sure why but the fact you linked this video to food stamps is sitting very uncomfortably with me.

[@vickiesprout4693]

This was fabulous!!! I’m Filipino American and I certainly can relate to the ladies and themes here. At age 68 I’m just now buying those luxury things that I didn’t think were meant for me. It’s a thing of self-worth. Thank you Karen and your fellow speakers. This is a gem!!

[@jeneenaylor]

THIS WAS PHENOMENAL👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 “it’s good over here”

[@intentionallyqueen.478]

Yes it was!

[@jenniferblue4972]

It’s good over here! I feel like I just went to a workshop or to church! Loved this video!

[@loveandlightnj]

@Highlowluxxe I saw your recent comment on this same subject and I hate you guys are having this experience. We should celebrate those who look like us and all their achievements. I hope you, @karenbritchick and all of the other amazing women in this community continue to shine, thrive and share with us. Do not let others steal your joy. You ladies work hard and deserve to reward yourself in any way you desire. I love you all and appreciate your contributions to this community.

[@queenofthesouth4205]

@HighlowLuxxe, Jenee I was buying luxury in the 80's.....💕💕💕

[@Charoletta77]

Absolutely excellent video👍🏽🤗❤️

[@daphethompson2424]

You said a mouth full there. When you said poverty is a state of mind. And it will keep you in bandage. If you are not careful it will keep you in slaved. Until we get a different mind-set we will never more forward. I love 💘 the fact that you as women are talking together in a group. Love 💘 you ALL and are praying 🙏 that you guys stay focused and do what you believe is right. And give us the inspiration and the hope that one day we will get there. I'm not rich, but I love ❤ 💕 luxury and I may not get it full priced but I will get it pre-loved. Great job ladies 👏!

[@binbin9196]

Ladies, Thank you. Love the reflection. We need to lift each other not push, trip or sabotage each other.

[@lgg7858]

I love that we are having this conversation and and you are dropping gems with regards to aspiring business owners and 9-5’ers…Continue to just be. You deserve it!

[@lindaadams1008]

Although, I may not want all the things that Karen purchases, I love looking at them whether their high end or a great thrift find.

[@curvy6c1]

I’m glad you had or have this topic 🤗🌷🙏💗I applaud you all for doing it,I hope some women will realize to honor and love themselves that you deserve all the good things in life that you worked hard for!!I am 68 years old and enjoying life now..Thank you ladies 🤗💗🌷

[@mgs48]

Yes Candice, black women need all brand deals. Yall we want to see black women stylin all the things

[@mreidja]

It’s good over here 🎉🎉. I’m happy that this conversation happened especially for us black women in the Caribbean who are judged including myself because I buy luxury and they have not checked my history and know how I got here. The go to work and school and late nights studying and working my behind off and sacrificing for my family and putting others before myself. And if at this point in my life I am allowing myself some freedom, don’t judge me.

[@shiromuriuki5500]

I think the lady with glasses nailed it when she said, we black women judge other black women on luxuries because we may think we r not deserving and so SHE does not them deserve too. Hurt women who are hurting because they feel undeserving... they will never feel others are deserving too. Really sad that we have to keep putting us down

[@angelah9690]

This discussion was so needed. I needed this as a young girl, as a young woman growing up and I need it now. Thank you, when I watch and listen to the conversation I am so hopeful for change.

[@nancyboykin8769]

It's not an issue of jealousy or a matter of race for me. I struggle with influencers showing their very expensive purchases (whether used or not) as people all over the world have suffered from major economic setbacks as a result of COVID. It just think the timing of showing these purchases is a bit tone deaf. Nothing to do with envy, jealousy, or the race/ethnicity of the influencer.

[@Jstar697]

Candace bottom left corner is extremely crass and ghetto, keeps flashing her wealth at every opportunity, followed by a fake woke race related post.

[@fbfray]

It’s called detached and maybe apathy.

[@toyaJM]

I hear what you’re saying but I also disagree with stopping your life because other people are going through things. Everyone has agency to unfollow, unsubscribe, ect.

[@missjamm31]

Karen !!! You and yours are on fire !!! Everyone deserves the rolemodel they need or needed in their life, if they can't see then they miss the power within themselves to thrive and grow! Love xxx

[@Nemma7hemi]

Let’s be honest it is a real reason why this is an issue in the black community. Most black women are single in America because of delusional expectations and of what they feel like they deserve. Now, since you have made this a business for you that’s one issue but if this is a lifestyle of the average working woman it is ridiculous. What do we owe our communities? What are our expectations for our daughters? Certainly, not to have a wall of designer bags and a closet of vintage cloths and 50 pair of boots and no husbands. Black women are over educating themselves in every area but financial literacy. If you have saved and are out of debt and you want to buy yourself something nice go for it. But, if you are in student loan debt, credit card debt, or just single trying to pay bills. I am sure we could come up with something that makes more since than luxury retail items regardless of what it is. The fact that you took the time to make this video speaks volumes. Influencers can be just as toxic to the black community or communities in general as any other unrealistic trend in our society. Buy what you want - just take the responsibility for issue and don’t make excuses that we are as black women attacking one another . If they can make you feel bad or question yourself then you need to self evaluate. Focusing on yourself is important and the way you look is important- but a luxury item is just not. But, to each their on. Women look at how your mothers and grandmothers prepared and was always ready for a rainy day. When, the pandemic hit I never heard that anyone ate or use their Chanel bag to pay the rent.

[@teah80]

Thank you for speaking honesty and truth.

[@alansgail]

Brilliant response.

[@andreajones2700]

it's not because most black men want white women?

[@farisasmith7109]

Ok. But at a glance how do you assume that a woman is financially irresponsible? There are many women who save their money and buy themselves really nice things. And good for them. My purchases should not be anyone's problem. I shouldn't have to justify to anyone what's in my wallet. If I work hard and want to buy something as a grown woman, why is it anyone's concern? Let's be honest, it's more than jealousy. It's an envious, vindictive attitude. You don't deserve it, it's too good for you, how could you possibly afford that. And it's not just for luxury items. If you dress "nice" you are subject to negative criticism. If you find yourself being envious of another person look within. That person is living their life, whatever life that is. And as these two years have shown life is too short. Wear your nice stuff, buy your nice stuff! Enjoy this one life we are given. It is over way too soon

[@Nemma7hemi]

I totally agree you should buy what you if you can afford it. There are no assumptions about your financial responsibility. The issue is the impact on the culture that is distracting and misleading. Young women, need disclaimers that this lifestyle is a process and not a priority that’s all I am saying. When you have a platform it’s an opportunity for solutions other than making it about race and women. It is sad that we are having discussions on luxury items when so many other important issues in the black community pertains to us as black women that are broken. Thanks for your response!

[@Wiccakat]

It’s always amazing the disclaimers around shopping hauls or luxury purchases that have to be said and how many influencers have to say to stop adding up my purchases and telling me how much I spent….. why do so many people care? It’s not their bill , they don’t need to pay it off if it’s on a credit card. I love this talk!! 💚

[@Yougotthis1212]

I personally am sick of the over consumption for all influencers. Can we get back to the old influencers when they were creative and made something out of nothing (meaning their creativity soared). I have a huge budget and can buy just about anything I want but at some point I have to say enough is enough. We all are guilty. Actually I’m more sick of the white influencers than the Black women. I’m proud of us but we are falling into the same trap, let’s be better! Side note, some peoples attitudes cause backlash.

[@TaraJonesWilliamson]

I’m no longer interested in “making something out of nothing” and normalizing struggle. I will have to politely decline this invite as a micro influencer.

[@StephanieAnyadike]

@@TaraJonesWilliamson 🤣😂 Manifest it!

[@Yougotthis1212]

@@TaraJonesWilliamson Its not normalizing struggle its about taping into creativity. The most creative people are in spaces when they have to use limited resources. Your mindset believing that I’m normalizing struggle is basic and underdeveloped. I don’t have the patience to have conversations with people who first, can’t read because I defined what I meant and operate with limited comprehension skills. You do you boo. 😉

[@TaraJonesWilliamson]

@@Yougotthis1212 That’s all we are trying to do over here… us! In whatever way that looks like without people like you trying to tell us how we do us is wrong. Do you comprehend that, hun? You are who they are taking about in the video. And yet, here you are telling me to do me. 🤣

[@Yougotthis1212]

@@TaraJonesWilliamson Girl, bye. Maybe you should concentrate more on your struggle channel and less on what you obviously have a problem comprehending. You are obviously jealous because I said I can afford whatever I want. My point is and has always been that everyone should be wise in what we do. Just because we can doesnt mean we should. These are 1st world problems, there’s much more important things in the world than you being bent out of shape because my opinion differs from yours. Very immature, change your attitude or you’ll stay with a struggle channel

[@toihutchins9013]

This almost made me cry. Your panels thoughts were enlightening. I've always loved fashion. Watching influencers made me feel better about what I buy. I've found myself explaining how hard I work or what I sacrificed for others. Now I won't feel guilty about buying something for myself.

[@wanderotter4667]

I agreed with everything but then I heard "Poverty is a state of mind". Well, no. Many people don't have a choice. American dominant culture understands poverty as a defect of character, not a result of a structurally unjust economic system. People who are poor are not poor because they lack money. They are poor because, in America’s dominant culture, there is something wrong with them emotionally, morally, subculturally, or behaviorally. People in poverty in the United States are largely viewed as individually responsible for their own economic circumstances, and they must be punished in this view. This appallingly cruel perspective has a long history in the United States despite its patent falsity, going far beyond the “blaming the victim” nonsense furthered by allegedly liberal social scientists and providers of social services (including social workers, psychotherapists, counselors, and other purveyors of the “helping” professions).

[@AG-kp4sh]

👏🏼🙌🏼

[@warmemberspodcast]

Such a phenomenal discussion!!!!!! I am an indigenous woman and felt this convo to my core!! I have been buying luxury but not telling anyone or posting it 😂. I didn’t want to be judged, there is def a pressure to help our oppressed community. And if I am splurging on luxury how can I be helping? Also we suffer at each other’s words and judgement of skin color, eye color and “Indianness” The oppressors started that top spinning in judgement and keeping us down that we carry it on today. More conversations like this need to occur to open eyes and start fires. ❤️❤️🔥

[@ritualzzz]

"poverty is a mindset" - I do somewhat understand underlying point in this, but anyway it sounds kinda wrong to say it while wearing Miu Miu top. also, talking about how you think you shouldn't say sorry for owning a bag that costs 5.000$+, again, sounds wrong. I do think this conversation was okay but regardless, as someone who studied fashion, worked in fashion, there are problems bigger then this that need to be addressed on visible platforms. world is changing tremendously right now and we need to use our voices and visability in well thought out ways. I don't own a Miu Miu top or Chanel/Hermes bag, but I feel sadness deep down in my bones, seeing where this ship called humanity is going

[@tinalee468]

Wow, this conversation was very insightful!! I work with attorneys and what I found interesting was that the female attorneys would ask me where did I purchase my clothes or handbags and when I would tell them, well this shop closed a while ago, Loehmann's they would say things like "oh, isn't that store expensive?" Well, my mother used buy my coats and jackets from there when I was in high school so, if she had to save two weeks of pay, she knew that what she purchased from there was quality. We can't worry about pleasing people, please yourself!! Because if the truth be told, when you care about yourself it shows in more ways than one!! 🕶👗🩱👘🥼👜👡👠🥿👢👑👑👑