THE HARSH REALITY ABOUT WORKING FOR YOURSELF | QUITTING YOUR JOB IN 2021

[@jessiefreeman2751]

Thanks Karen, l am 70, thinking l am at wits end, because of how old l am, but you have TRULY encouraged me, I will achieve what l want to do. YES!!!. BE BLESSED.

[@beverlysingleton8792]

Tomorrow I'll be 66 and yes gurl' we've got to keep going! I said that I was buckling down in September and start blogging. So this is an additional nudge to find me an assistant (tech) & get going.🤔☺️ You can do it💜

[@TheSexemama1]

Love that, Find your own tribe .

[@roslynjones5886]

Good for you!!! I would like to do something on the side, but I don’t know what!!! I work for the city and am 55 years old. Wishing you complete success.

[@eagleeye2427]

Wow! I applaud you! At 77 you’re still encouraged to do something! Some people at your age will just think of waiting for death. Go! And achieve what you want in life! 😃🙌🏻 I hope and pray you get it🙏🏻.

[@beverlysingleton8792]

@@mazamamina7948 Thank you 💖

[@joannehenry4595]

I am living on the small pension I have from being a college professor, a vocation I loved. I have no real savings but am working on going back to my first love music/theater professional. Older wiser with less time in front of me than behind me. But here I go! Wish me luck!

[@FromCocotoChanel]

Please do a part 2 . Also congratulations on your amazon line doing so well

[@dr-k1667]

Perfect timing for these days and times. I left corporate life over a decade ago. Has it been easy, no, but it has been much more satisfying and exciting and rewarding than working for others who either didn't appreciate my talents or didn't pay for the value I brought to the table. Nothing beats setting yourself up for success and working for your betterment, not to just pay bills. Anything can pay a bill, but I wanted my soul, mind and body even to be at my best. Thanks for encouraging and sharing your story Karen!

[@ninawestlake5005]

That!

[@Charlotte77683]

I strongly believe we all need to hear this, you've got to stop saving money only. Invest_ some part of it, if you really want financial freedom.

[@wagnersaucedo5060]

I understand the fact that tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, but investing today is a hard thing to do because i have no idea of how and where to invest in?

[@ronyates9932]

The world have advanced a whole lot that you must not be a pro to make money out the market.

[@brownbryan8368]

When money realizes that it is in good hands, it wants to stay and multiply in those hands, if you really want to make profits out of the money you've got, you have to take it out of your savings account

[@fraserrory9765]

Exactly, money is always eager and ready to work for anyone who is ready to employ it, Mrs Karen made me understand the basic principles of investing. Her sincerity is awesome.

[@Charlotte77683]

@@wagnersaucedo5060 If you think you're too busy to tràde or learn how to tràde, just know I have some friends who invèst in a plat form where experts devotes their time and help them tràde and they get paid prôfit every week.

[@leens4190]

Thank you Karen. Would love a Part 2 on what to charge, how your prices differ from what non POC influencers can/are paid, and how you navigate which brands to work with in the era of Me Too and BLM. Xx Thank you!

[@sonyaearly]

I rank this right up there with one of the BEST videos you’ve done!!! Thank you so much for sharing. I would like to see a part 2 on what/how to ask for what you are worth. Oh and I must say your rendition of people saying “I can’t believe” was hilarious! Keep of the great work Karen, you do it so well!!!

[@KarenBritChick]

Thank you! Will do!

[@megmazuraniccourtney1591]

@@KarenBritChick, I would also LOVE to see the part 2 on what to ask for dollar-wise, how to know what you are worth, and generally how to contact/approach companies for collaboration!

[@annethuirne3184]

A part two...yes please!

[@marilynm.187]

Yes please do a part 2! You’d be helping so many ppl! Thank you for being open to share information not everyone would and for not sugar coating anything. You are real!

[@eteldias5176]

Thank you Karen. I find myself putting in time to always look coherent, elegant and prepare outfits ahead of time but I have a special energy for interior design. Because we have properties I have been able to do it noticing ppl loving what I come up with. I am now at 62 going back to school...Design school. I feel like my life is starting all over again. How lucky!!!

[@deborahcraven6435]

Sounds exiting , good luck with your new adventure!!

[@isinallos]

Best of luck!!

[@LRB04]

Rejection! Being rejected by established people because you aren't established, who have forgotten that at one time THEY weren't established.

[@ValerieArmstrongSasFashions]

Thanks for this Karen, I too was laid off sometime ago and have ALWAYS loved fashion even as a child but allowed others to put in my head its more important to be realistic working a job you hate so you can pay the bills. Well I did that for corporate America for 34 yrs and later laid off. I have started a my own journey its been a few years. Yes it is hard, and just this week thought of quitting and just finding something to bring in money. However you sparked hope in me. Not to quit. I must say I'm in my later years and would only advise your younger audience to don't wait until you get older to pursue your dreams. Not to say at an older age you won't succeed but you'll have more time to enjoy what you ALWAYS wanted to do.

[@heyuitskarla]

I would appreciate a part 2! Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

[@shanaright]

I admire the freelancers (especially on KZbin). You always create content that is relevant to your viewers. I appreciate y’all. Thank you, Karen!

[@KarenBritChick]

You are so welcome!

[@brittneyk0158]

As the saying goes…..”We should never judge a book by its cover!” THANK YOU for sharing this insight! You are meant to be where you are! Your dedication, passion and enthusiasm are all INFECTIOUS!

[@moni4peace]

Karen I can't understand how someone would have the gall to say that Michael was your sugar daddy. The Nerve!!! These people need to get a life. Stop assuming and judging others.

[@PossumLover1111]

You are a remarkable woman and a fantastic role model for all women. Thank you!

[@foxyboots]

I quit job in factory and start doing what I love - I am sharing my boots passion ! it is just because you Karen, I watched you, you inspaired me a lot, and I said I WILL TRY ! and THANK YOU FOR IT ! THANK YOU

[@janicebr29]

Great honest video, Karen. This is why that saying that is circulating everywhere "do what love and you'll never work a day in your life" is BS, because there is a lot of work involved doing what you love, just like you mentioned. The difference is that at end of the day, week, month, year.. you have that feeling of fulfillment and of being true to yourself, instead of feeling like you're wasting the energy of your life, and of betraying yourself when you're working a job that has no meaning to you.

[@KarenBritChick]

Well said!

[@marciajacquelinemyrie8407]

Excellent video, Karen. I so needed to hear this. I’m taking my first steps towards doing what you do. At the age of 57 I’ve done loads of things that I haven’t enjoyed, so now I’m starting with baby steps doing fashion content. It’s scary though. Thanks a billion for the advice xxx

[@ssatpath]

This was great. Writing this comment to request a Part 2 that has more info on anything you are ok wi/ sharing with all of us :) Thank you!

[@dianel958]

I have started two businesses in the 30 years since grad school and although there have been ups and downs (hello recession!) I would not change it for anything. I am nearly set for an early retirement and looking into my next adventure...I am 56 and have plenty of ideas but it must involve clothes :) I hope to start a gallery/retail store here in my city..there now it's out in the universe. Karen you are such a kickass person! thanks for all the inspo in all the things.

[@leens4190]

This is fabulous! What’s your story? What motivated you to get started? I’d love to know more. Thanks!

[@janetthomas8244]

@@leens4190 me too

[@mazzp]

Hey Karen, thank you so much for this! You were actually speaking to me ❤️👌🏾

[@emilyidina9651]

You really couldn’t be more right when talking about people you’re going to please vs the ones you’re not especially those closest to you. I feel like they’re watching and faking like they’re happy for you but they’re really not because they will never have the courage to even try. I have started to become more present online photography wise yet I need to get out of my head about being in front of the camera. (Not a fan of my raspy voice, yet men love it LOL) Girl I love fashion, writing, make-up and considering a potential acting career! Lord Take The Wheel 🙏🏾💕

[@samanthamadison7249]

Chile, you know we need a Part 2!! Please and Thank you!! 😘🥰😁

[@codacraft]

I started my jewelry business 6 years ago in my living room. I am now in my 5th year in a shop of my own. The “yes, but” will take you down. What my challenge is now is to scale.

[@aprilbloodgate9832]

I want to say thank you for this video. Its been a struggle going back to working for someone else after I lost my freelance opportunities at the beginning of 2020. I truly miss it. But I need to do it correctly. I can't just jump into the next chapter unprepared and this video helped knock sense back into me. There are tons of KZbinrs out there promoting the cold turkey quit. Everyone is different and not everyone has a nest egg or partner or parents or YT/residual income to quit. Hoping to make some good things soon and work my way there. ❤

[@lornadune6024]

This is a great topic especially now. On an unrelated note, I love that couch. It’s beautiful.

[@naeeve]

After my coworker, 71 years old (who helped build the company), was fired on Christmas Eve, I knew I was DONE.

[@thestylemaven1]

OMG Karen, when I managed a retail partner-shop, I would get that dreaded feeling every Sunday night around 4-5P! It was the worst, so much anxiety.

[@spangol87]

What a relief it is when you come to realise you haven't had that for years. Beneficial to reflect on this again and again. I used to experience this, feeling gut sick.

[@shannonfirman7352]

I thought I was the only one. 4-5 pm on a Sunday my mood totally changes. Sad.

[@nomD38]

Me too. It's the worst feeling ever!

[@elizabethhelen9388]

Love this! So encouraging. I just stepped forward last month is starting my interior design business. Like you said, doing what you love! It is terrifying and overwhelming, but I don’t let that stop me - I am pressing forward. Continue shining your light because you are an amazing inspiration!

[@dianeleininger704]

When you are able to pop out of bed in the morning to go to work..... then you know you are doing something you love. Having a lot of guts I started a Landscape Design and Installation company. I got disgusted doing corporate advertising. I was in there with my crew edging, mulching, installing trees etc. with much sweat and headaches, literally, I look back and was fortunate to do something I love so much! So, people make the plunge and do it. Yes, I made enough to pay for my retirement.

[@itstrinitykaye]

🙌🏼

[@daphethompson2424]

Great job Karen 👏! I loved ♥ the content in this video 📹. Soo many people are at a point in their lives where they want to make a change but they don't know how to get started. I really ❤ that you gave those points on what things we should do to get started 🤔. Because alot of people won't even tell you what they know or how they got started. Love 💘 that about you Karen. God will always bless those who give back or reach out to help 🙏 others.

[@miki09l]

well, I want to thank you, not for the content of your advice, since I got familiar with it walking my own similar path, but for the way you presented it; rarely do people manage to walk this thin line between pure enthusiasm and the harsh reality of things :)

[@theresathomas-dollard2257]

Karen, thanks for sharing your story and experiences. I believe you’re so right that we should be doing what we’re passionate about. It’s so important, and it makes us happier, more productive, and we could inspire and motivate others as you’re doing. I agree having that safety net is important and a must. We’re never to old to follow our true passion. Thanks for the encouragement! 💕!!

[@janecaird1054]

Just …Fair play to ya 🇮🇪well done Karen ❤️I really admire you and think it’s fantastic what you’ve done and we’re you have come from ppplease do a part 2 😊

[@cavelleardiel]

Whew! When I saw the thumbnail I thought that you have turned to the dark side of whine and cry and I said to myself NO, not our Karen and then I started to watch the video. YOU are an inspiration and a blessing to us. Go Karen!!

[@nieshvanterpool]

the "errrr mer gerrd, Karen" 's took me out 😹. you're the best. rooting for you from home! 🇬🇧

[@genevieve7055]

I have been hoping you would do something like this and I would love to see more on this.

[@kimberlymyhre6142]

I really appreciate your candid conversation in this video. Please do a part 2!

[@marissat9953]

Thank you for this video! I am searching for a way out of my 9-5 job. I would really appreciate if you would do a part 2!

[@alexfromme5025]

Really needed this. You're amazing and congrats on the amazon line being such a success!!

[@KarenBritChick]

Glad it was helpful and thank you!

[@Leila2023_]

I've been freelancing for 6 years. I just can't be in a 9-5 anymore... but I am currently thinking of switching from teaching to sales - property sales, but I am not sure that I can actually do it! It's really interesting to watch this. Thanks. I find you very inspirational.

[@queenofthesouth4205]

#KarenBritChick thank you...this video is perfect for these ' times". Three of my family members decided to retire from their government jobs...they qualified and went forth in their final decisions. We as humans are being to realize family/health are top priorities. "Find your Passion" and work on it.

[@louise-yo7kz]

These videos are very important. It helps to keep people motivated and also to tap into their creativity

[@ginaparchment3642]

You are so inspiring, I have done so many of what you talked about. I had a 9 to 5 that I hated as well, I felt ridiculous in the office because everything was so wrong, I felt like I was wasting my time is not where I wanted to be. Thank the Lord thing changed and I jumped and never looked back. I work more now but is exactly what I want to do, you could say I am a workaholic. I'm a Fashion Designer.... I really had to work very hard and still have so much to accomplish, and yes friend and family would not take you seriously until they see other strangers paying attention, it happen to me... I am always thinking on my next step and Projects I'm nerver off yesss is because I really love what I do I can't stop thinking about all aspects fashion. It was refreshing to hear your advice and recommendations coming from a creative fashionable mind it makes a world of difference. Thank you so much!

[@KarenBritChick]

oh wow you are helping ME just reading this!! see? we are all going through the same sh** LOL!!

[@melinda3196]

Such a motivational video! I've started several businesses over the decades n now I'm into gardening. I have so many ideas about how I can turn my love for gardening into a business. Thanks for sharing ....

[@vstinson7234]

I love gardens and always looking to get other opinions and ideas.

[@ladyqqt]

On a day I was seriously questioning what I've done for the last five years as an entrepreneur, I turn on the television and there you are. Exhale...you hit every single point as an entrepreneur that I've experienced and continue to experience today. I just want to say thank you for being CONFIRMATION to stay the course and keep going. 🙋🏾‍♀️🙌🏾💪🏾❤

[@thechristinediane]

Part 2; yes please!! Where does one learn how to value creative content products and services? Lol, Is there a general price list somewhere that shows a range of compensation vs viewer impressions? PS. My "thing" is primarily a tangible product, yet to promote, educate, engage customers there will be a creative content component required.

[@feliciawilliams558]

GREAT INFORMATION VERY ENCOURAGING THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING SOOOOOO TRANSPARENT ❤

[@porcupinejo]

Thank you for this wonderful information you are very inspiring. Part 2 would be wonderful!

[@srwarren103]

As cliche as this may sound, what’s meant for you is ordained just for you. I have two daughters both have entrepreneurial aspirations. They see you as an inspiration and use your path as their guide. Keep pressing forth 😇

[@cinemaocd1752]

Thank you for bringing up Michael and your financial situation in detail. I've been in that situation where I had the insurance, the savings and the good credit and my boyfriend at the time was struggling and people thought I was with him for his money. It's just misogyny and it's a kind of toxic way of thinking about people. Also, it's not very flattering to either of you! You guys seem really well matched in personalities and values and that is what is important.

[@stellachamakioti6343]

Great video, Karen, very useful! Please do a Part 2 with extra details on responding to brands etc. Thank you! :)

[@cca77]

Please do a part 2. Great content. I am an English teacher and I would like to start an online school.

[@frenchfan1278]

Karen you are so real, it’s just so inspiring to watch your channel. Very reality inspirational video.

[@JaciraDeMatos]

Excellent video Karen! I’m currently toying with the idea of quitting but the fear is huge so I just started my KZbin and I’m hoping that it works out! Please do a part 2, it’s necessary!

[@veronikakhan9865]

Karen, thank you for this video! I was meant to see it, but for a different reason :) I just realize how much I enjoy my 9-6 job (had some doubts couple of years ago but couldn’t really find anything else that I would like to do as a job), and I love the company that I work in, and at the same time I loooove watching KZbin, your videos in particular! Your content is awesome, I wish you all the luck in the world and also with luck to all the people out there who get inspired by you advice and support and decide to do something new!

[@darkernotions]

Thanks Karen...as my Dad use to say...you are the bees knees....👌🏼🐝

[@cameljoe1858]

I was sitting here thinking of this and then you posted this video! I'm on the same boat, working a corporate 8-5 office - mind numbing- job while also trying to create and build myself on here and other platforms. I really want to focus more time on this because I really enjoy it so far and I have SO MANY awesome video ideas and advice to give! Thanks for giving me some clarity with this video and also thanks for being you and amazing every video ❤️

[@elisabethm9655]

So NOW is the time to save a nest egg, perfect and clarify your vision and prepare to cut loose.🤗

[@solesoul5866]

same here. I LOVE fashion, styling, shopping. Always have. I have pulled together a few items to start and I guess out of fear of committment or failure, I haven't filmed one video yet. Then a friend I haven't seen in a while because she moved out of state, asked why I hadn't started a content yet? She said something that keeps playing in my head. "What do you have to lose?" EPIC - I really want to start but I feel like people won't want to hear from me....

[@e.walloch590]

Thank you for sharing the nitty-gritty parts of what it takes to create what you create on multiple platforms. I think a lot of people need road maps such as what you just presented to get going and not find themselves in dire straits. Not everyone has the "executive" mind or skills to start something and see it through. You made some excellent points. I wish our educational system offers courses for alternative careers just like I wish they teach basic budgeting and interviewing skills. Another excellent vlog!!

[@mcexchange1]

Karen - thank you for sharing. It takes a lot of courage to leave the corporate world because of the unknown. I think about it often and haven’t taken the plunge. I knit, but I don’t know if I’m good enough. My scope is a bit narrow (e.g. socks, golf clubs covers, etc), so I don’t think it would be sustainable. Yes, I could be a negative Nancy. LOL! Your video is inspiring… 🙏🙏🙏

[@mercedesfoster8257]

Thank for the real talk. This was so helpful and would love a part 2!

[@NaomiTGrant]

Wow! Thank you so much for this! I had been in a rut as a freelancer & content creator! I am having all those struggles that you mentioned & this video was soooo inspirational! It was exactly what I needed! 💖

[@HeavyontheChai]

Thank you. I am requesting part 2, please.

[@skinjunky]

I want to so bad.. but out of fear I’ve been holding back and also feeling like I don’t know enough 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@ursulamoreyra8024]

I run a Floral Design Studio and sometimes feels soo lonely...but now im not!

[@aartbykay6787]

Lord knows I needed to here this. Thank you Thank you. This was extremely helpful and inciteful. Love your content!

[@reginamannsperger9386]

This video is worth thousands of thumbs up.

[@elisabethm9655]

YES, PART 2! Thank you for this video…and thank you for doing what you ❤️ love!🤗

[@anitaandrews7249]

Bravo! Hip hip hurray and all the other grand salutations that can describe this video. This was a great piece of work for those that needed some encouragement to push forward. Thanks Karen!

[@jeannemilnes2254]

Love this Karen! Yes, part 2 please! You are inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

[@daizzeebouey4283]

This is fantastic Karen! Please MORE, MORE!

[@Cassandra-..-]

Love your energy and enthusiasm. And the reality checks. A master class!

[@annclyde]

So, so good...took it all in Karen..and yes, please do a follow-up about branding or anything else pertaining to this topic..you were spot on🧡

[@consciousoftheculture994]

Thanks for this video. Will you please do a part 2 on brand deals?

[@consciousoftheculture994]

Thanks for this video. Will you please do a part 2 on brand deals?

[@lucystewart9822]

Wow, first! Karen dropping knowledge!

[@nix_cosplay]

I'm self employed and really try to keep my work hours 7-4! I'm replying to clients all hours, but it's really healthy for me to try to have time I'm not working

[@gabhm412]

I love to hear your words about being a freelancer, I am 26 year old designer and artist. I work my ass off to pay the bills, to make money but this is what I love, and it makes my clients happy, makes me happy. But Damn is harsh work.

[@harolynmunford1853]

Pleas do a part two that’s more in depth

[@penelopeccd]

You are completely right , I’m also a freelance, I do graphic design and web developing… and I fucking love it. It’s really hard to manage yourself , sometimes I wanna quit, but my love for it it’s much bigger… except when I’m lack of clients and can’t afford bills… but I keep on and working hard, and learning … and trying new stuff. You are an inspitration!

[@KarenBritChick]

all of this!!! I wouldn't have it any other way either but yes with reward comes risk and I agree it's a learning process.

[@megmazuraniccourtney1591]

@Penelope Crespo - where can we check out your work?

[@penelopeccd]

@@KarenBritChick thanks for your answer!

[@allisonbyler]

Loved this vlog! Have to say you crack me up with the beeps a couple seconds after BUT know f bombs and saying how you feel rocks!!! Doesn’t offend me one bit!!!

[@kimberlykimble2]

Karen you just spoke to my soul lady. I feel like I just got the Holy Ghost from your words...Lol!! This is what I needed to hear this morning. Blessings to you. ❤

[@christellawson2205]

God I feel exactly the same! And I love fashion as much as you do Karen! I am following you since you got laid of your job! 🤭

[@jojoc60961]

Yes, great video , very informative. Please do a part 2

[@AngelaMashelle]

Please do a part 2! I really need to know how much I should be charging. Any info you can give would be great.

[@annielam1218]

Please do a part 2! this is helpful info! Thanks Karen!

[@celesteleecloud]

Wonderful video, Karen. You're such an inspiration.

[@mmusic5873]

Thank you Karen - this was well articulated and highly motivational. You are fabulous!

[@alexandraelenacristea]

I loved the video I hope there will be a part 2. You are very inspiring Karen and what I like most about you is that you always keep it real. I love styling just as much and I've recently mustered the courage to start an Instagram account. I'm trying to enjoy it, make mistakes and learn from them and not take myself too seriously hehe. I don't have a lot of people in my life that enjoy these kind of things, so my hope is to finnaly find people that I can resonate with, that share my love for fashion and that have something genuine to say about it.

[@megmazuraniccourtney1591]

I feel exactly the same @Alex - I love it but don't have any people around me that do. I'm hoping that as I build out my content, it will attract others that share that love - just the way Karen has done! What's your IG handle? I'd love to check out your account!

[@alexandraelenacristea]

@@megmazuraniccourtney1591 I would love to follow your journey. You can find me at @thefashionablearchitect

[@gaeletchaffa1730]

‘’Crawl before you can walk before you can run!’’ is what I retained from this very informative video! So inspiring!🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@feeloutthewindow]

The sentence "who is having the last laugh now!?" is EPIC! You're totally right Karen! I ADORE you! Thanks for this video! 😁👍👍

[@Jadekoroma]

Thanks so much for the encouragement. What resonated was you saying the excuses we make can be the reason we go for it! I need to stop making excuses and just go for it and do what I have to do to be successful. Thanks again!

[@natural91LC]

Liked before watching. I love these videos of yours. I respect you and what you've achieved so much, truly inspirational

[@stephchesne]

Love this, thank you Karen, so inspiring ✨💪

[@aprylbrown6848]

Thank you for using your journey of success to inspire others!

[@thejadedhippie]

Yes!!! Part 2, please. I haaaaate my job. Any advice that can help me get away from it is so very welcomed. I love interior design and photography. I'd love to find a way to combine the two and have that be how I make my living. I just started a group on FB, f/that fotografie, and an IG account, f_that_fotografie, and I've been really surprised by the positive response already. It's encouraging but it has shown me that it's going to take quite a bit of effort to maintain the momentum. Thanks for all you do. Love your content. 😊

[@claudettewalker8358]

Karen, you are a truly gifted motivator. This came at the right time for me. Thanks! Yes, we need Part 2!

[@katherinesalem]

I love all your videos, never miss them! You are so inspiring no matter what type of content you’re producing. Thank goodness you stuck with it and now we’re all benefiting from your experience! Xoxo

[@taliswomanartist8028]

FAB INSIGHTS...PART 2 please 🙏🏾👍🏾👏🏾

[@Godzgift777]

I'm in NYC and I want to shadow anyone who sews clothing. I want to learn...anyone out there?

[@samanthamadison7249]

I'm not in NYC but Mood Fabric has classes. Also, look at Anita by Design, Brittany J Jones, Mimi G, and Daniela Tabois on KZbin

[@Godzgift777]

@@samanthamadison7249 Thank you so much for responding. I've taken a class a mood before and made a tote bag, which I still have. I'm looking for a one-on-one instruction. I tried to sew a top the other day and it was a flop😭 but I'm determined to learn. Also I've watched a lot of Mimi G's videos, ill check her out again and the others you mentioned. Thank you 🙏

[@samanthamadison7249]

@@Godzgift777 No problem! Keep on keeping on! Learning to sew is a marathon with a great deal of patience. 😁

[@Dyane629]

@Blessed One. Speaking of Mood as you know Project Runway films there & most of their designers are customers. This may be a long shot but I’ve been a PR fan since season 1 and belong to two Facebook groups; Topic Project Runway & Project Runway Fanatics. I’d say most of the designers join both or either group. Over the years many designers give classes, seek assistances, apprentices, etc. Many use FB & IG to network with fans & further launch their careers. Maybe this might help you? Just a thought.

[@Godzgift777]

@@Dyane629 God bless you! Thank you