3F UL Gear Lanshan 2 Tent Review - Double Walled, 4 Season, 10/10 VALUE!

[@BackpackingUK]

Buy the Lanshan 2, 4 Season Tent here: £152 inc delivery, vat, duty INCLUDING footprint www.camperlists.com/collections/3f-ul-gear-tent-collection/products/3f-ul-lanshan-2?ref=azpizuhxua&variant=41476906057882 £137 inc delivery, vat, duty EXCLUDING footprint www.camperlists.com/collections/3f-ul-gear-tent-collection/products/3f-ul-lanshan-2?ref=azpizuhxua&variant=40231437009050

[@Airlessmean]

honestly witht eh footprint is a bargain!

[@SojolBandiwadekar]

@@Airlessmean The footprint price is the lowest among all sellers.

[@VivienneBlaskovich]

Metal hooks in the Camperlists option, great service！

[@deniseverhoeven1410]

Camperlists has very bad reviews in Europe, but only two so I can’t compare. Do you recommend this website?

[@mikelovesbacon]

I've had my Lanshan 2 Plus for a while now and love it. Nothing else out there balances space, weight, and cost as well as this does. The video is a bit confusing when you talk about your four season tent and the three season pro tent so I'd like to clear that up for potential buyers. The Lanshan 2 comes in two versions: There's the standard tent, which was updated to be larger in 2021. Most sites will call this the Plus or XL, or sometimes the 2021 version. If you're buying used and are any reasonable height, even 5'10", make sure you buy the larger 2021/Plus version. Many sellers won't even be aware the tent was updated. So... you have the Lanshan 1 Plus and Lanshan 2 Plus. And the Lanshan 1 Pro and Lanshan 2 Pro. The difference between the Plus and Pro is the Pro is single-skinned and therefore lighter, but more prone to issues with condensation in our climate. All of the Lanshan tents, be they Plus or Pro, are available as "three season" or "four season". As you say, this is not in any way a four season tent, so these terms are misleading. The difference is the four season inner is mostly solid, and the three season inner is mostly mesh. With the Plus tents the inner is detachable so you can buy both and change them whenever you feel like it. With the Pro tents, they are sewn in so can't be changed. The Pro tents need to be fully seam-sealed. The Plus tents only need their guy-out points sealing (3 on the Lanshan 1, and 2 on the Lanshan 2). As for the weight, you said it's 1150g which is about right. It's 1155g but that includes the 142g optional footprint. There's only a 20g weight increase from the three season to four season inner. A Lanshan 2 Plus is less than 300g heavier than a Lanshan 1 Plus. You get so much extra space in the 2 Plus, it's very much worth the small amount of extra weight. I really recommend the footprint as not only does it give extra protection to the relatively thin floor, but also makes pitching a lot easier. There's a Facebook group called "Lanshan Owners UK" which is full of helpful advice.

[@BackpackingUK]

I wouldn’t call the Lanshan 2 ‘Plus’, that’s really confusing. Nobody calls it that.

[@mikelovesbacon]

@@BackpackingUK Did you delete my reply to this?

[@BackpackingUK]

No, not at all.

[@mikelovesbacon]

@@BackpackingUK Weird, I posted three times clarifying why it's called the Plus but each time my comment vanished after a few mins

[@shabingly]

​​@@BackpackingUK it's not the 2-man some people call "plus", it's the year 2021-on versions of both lanshan 1 and lanshan 2 some people call "plus", as they increased the floor dimensions of the tent.

[@finchpyn]

I’ve had a lanshan 2 for a couple of years now and I rate it very highly, I did spray mine with Nikwax cause I took it out in virtually horizontal rain, the addition of the nikwax meant I had a perfectly dry night. I also use two pegs on the cord for the door , this allows me to bring the door lower to the ground 👍

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@d.2110]

do you mean one peg right on the bottom of the zipper and the other one in the original loop that's meant for it? I also like a smaller gap, I've been putting my trekking poles to 110cm, but this could be a good addition.

[@tara9221]

I have just bought this now. Sounds perfect for camping with my 6 year old. Especially as i don't drive and use the train to get to our usual camping spots. Looking forward to the lighter weight!! Great review,thanks for helping me decide. Keep uploading the great videos you make,i really enjoy watching your channel 👍

[@d.2110]

nice to mention, when it's cold and windy, its nice to set up at 110cm. to have the edges close to the ground. But the bottom of te tent is then a bit flappy, so you can hold that up with a little string or elastics you have from other gear and attach it to your lowest trekking pole clip to hold it up. Aslo, I made my own ground sheet from some polycro, it's a large cheap piece of see through plastic from a home depot kinda store, used to protect the floors when painting. You just cut the right size - same as the surface of the inner - and then cover the corners with some duct tape. After that, you smash in some metal rings in those taped corners, that you also buy at that store. It's very durable and light and cheap. And another thing, I made a little string in the top of the inner, between the two tops of the tent, to hang stuff I want to have close during the night or to dry or air out mildly wet stuff. Like my head lamp, my handkerchief, socks and maybe my pocketknife of kula cloth. Then I don't have to search for that stuff in the morning or in the middle of the night when I need them.

[@graemer3657]

I use this tent and love it. I used to have the Pro1 but it was too small and condensation was a big problem. The Lanshan 2 is the perfect size for me (1m 85) and I have never had a problem with condensation or dampness.

[@neemancallender9092]

I have the Pro I set the poles at 135 Lets plenty of air flow with minimal condensation I have two 45 degree guys at each end Much more stable in wind

[@mistymountainrambler61]

I’ve had my Lansham 2 4 seasons for about 3 years now and it’s still my go to tent for 3 seasons. I haven’t seen anything else that compares wrt price, size and weight. 👍 cheers all.

[@pipandbenji]

Started wild camping two years ago, using a Lanshan 2 3 season and I love it, just bought a 4 season inner and hoping to be able to extend my camping season. Have 6 delta pegs which make it nice and solid. Only issue I had was one of the plastic Ram's head double hooks for the door on one side broke in a very gusty cliff side coastal camp but I will replace with metal ones, for now using carabiner. I see you have extra lines from the apexes above the vents, I think that's wise and would take pressure off the door guys in wind. Great video, thanks

[@adamjohnston447]

I too have used the Lanshan 2 for a couple of years. Fantastic tent, loads of space for one, double vestibule, been watertight, very light. Very little condensation. Can’t recommend enough, although always used with an additional ground sheet. And as long as you can cope with the gap all around between the tent and the ground. So although I’ve used it in sub-zero snow, it’s def not a proper 4 season tent

[@hesgone6699]

Great review, thanks. I find that my 3 season lanshan 1 doesn't cope with storms well. I might switch to the 4 season

[@johnw4595]

Thank you. Great to hear your thoughts on 3 v 4 season for uk. And this v pro version. Very helpful. I’m going to get the 4 season non pro one. 👍

[@Phil.Oakley]

I've got this one too. I love it! The 2 guy out points are all that need seam sealing. It's far better than the pro and it's massive for 1. The latest release now has t zips for all inners too. I always keep mine at 125 as best for reducing condensation and my bag is left in the vestibule with the cover on anyways so doesn't get wet.

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@adambarrett6715]

Hi Phil, what seam sealer did you use ?

[@Phil.Oakley]

​@@adambarrett6715gear aid silnet. It's about £10 and you don't need much. I didn't bother diluting it just used the little brush supplied and applied to the black tabs

[@adismith3809]

Just ordered one thanks for review can’t wait to get out in it 👍

[@fraserconnell21]

Boosh 💥. Great, honest and Smashtastick positive review 😊. Appears to us that Andy is a unique youtuber in so much as he's no trump or a sell out too.. Basically fantastic job M'Andy😊😆👍🏼🙏

[@WafaaCho]

I have bought it and will be modifying it to prepare for testing next week. Camperlists shipping is really fast.

[@musicman4164]

I've had my Lanshan 2 for 3 years now, great tent, paid £86 from Ali express, had to wait nearly 3 weeks for delivery, but well worth it, absolute bargain.

[@THE-RIVER-RAT]

Great looking peace of kit and this video came just at the right time for me as I'm after a new tent for summer/ UK summer lol Great review buddy

[@BackpackingUK]

I don’t think you can go wrong with this for UK summer use. Your back with thank you for it too 🪶

[@gassyinc6406]

Just stumbled across your channel, looking to start getting into backpacking, already watched your budget video from a few years ago, you've earned a subscriber 👏

[@BackpackingUK]

Welcome aboard!

[@MrJezster]

Just receive the Lanshan 2 tent for hiking - same colour. It's would be nice to have lower tie down points on the long sides near the ground like the Pro. Otherwise - top kit.

[@timgay3485]

Thanks for that. I really struggled with the doors on mine - the tent came with cords that I've just realised have to be connected to the doors, but I'm not sure I've done it properly. As well as that, the straps for adjusting the tension on the corners occasionally become detached. Any tips welcome.

[@realfingertrouble]

It's the same as the 1 - it is rather confusing, you peg out the middle of the guy - you'll see a loop halfway along, that's where you put your peg, then the rest of the guy goes back to the stretchy loops on the bottom of the door flaps. So it tensions them out.

[@timgay3485]

@@realfingertrouble Many thanks. That's really helpful. I have been doing this wrongly. I'll take your comments on board and try again. Many thanks.

[@Bigblueone]

Only just subscribed to your channel....love your delivery and knowledge ....very enjoyable #properchap 😊

[@BackpackingUK]

Cheers. Welcome aboard!

[@MrWrob32]

Thanks Andy for the pitching instructions, as I'm waiting for one to be delivered

[@BackpackingUK]

Peg out the corners (inner and outer) first, it’s as simple of that, it’ll fly up 👍

[@d.2110]

I wonder, what do you think about the placing of the zippers? I just changed my thee season inner for the four season inner. I saw that all sides can open now. But they are one way zippers that close in the center on the bottom. In winter, to prevent condensation in weather below freezing, it's useful to be able to open the doors of the inner partly, for extra ventilation. But if I would do that now, it would be open on the bottom, which would give me a cold butt and it's not where the warm wet air wants to go out. I wish it was possible to open the inner on the tops. How about you? I guess I will find out if it matters this winter.

[@austieoutdoors9763]

yes i got mine yesterday and with the weather we had i havn,t even put it up yet and you know whats its like when you get a new tent and you can,t put it up its agony lol but now i have seen plenty of video,s of them being set up badly now im dreading it but its mainly common sense isn,t it. so tomorrow looks dry6 anough so ill do it tomorrow but is there any tips you can give us and good mods because i was gunna leave it as it is.😊

[@Jim553just]

I have just received mine, 30/3/24, really pleased with it. It now comes with 4 zipped doors, it is great. However, when I put it up - 20 minutes first time- it looked dreadful, saggy and baggy. Hopefully I will make a better job of it next time 😅

[@BackpackingUK]

It does take a bit of practice but when you get the hang of it, it flies up!

[@jazclemmie]

You mentioned that the Lanshan 2 Pro has lots of condensation problems. Glad to know this, will avoid. So I’m thinking about getting this one you’re showing instead - but with the 3 season inner. I like it being see through and I intend to use throughout April - October in the UK. So warm weather, but undoubtedly still rainy days. Do you still recommend this? Or will it still be high condensation like the pro? Thank you x

[@andrewstennett3186]

Hmmmm, currently using bobcat 1 buts its too small. Looking at Helm 1 helm 2 but after watching this and MCM outdoors latest, the this lanshan could be my other option that is more budget friendly for me. I do want to go out in colder months so what are your thoughts, also 3f ul taiji 1 looks decent

[@pauledwards499]

Great review, thanks for this. I've got the Flames Creed Lanshan 1 and it's far too small if it rains so I think I'll give this one a go. It might be a good idea to cut a cheap tarp to size for a footprint though, otherwise it's a great set up.

[@BackpackingUK]

I should have mentioned, the £152 includes a footprint too 👍

[@pauledwards499]

@@BackpackingUK Brilliant! Even more tempted now

[@craigelliott4338]

Love my lanshan, I’ve got both inners, the groundsheet, and a few mods. Awesome tent

[@BackpackingUK]

I was thinking of getting the mesh inner too!

[@craigelliott4338]

@BackpackingUK I started with it, it's very nice in the summer chilling inside the mesh, in shade but still bug free and taking in the views. I also recommend the ground sheet and metal zpacks door hooks.

[@realfingertrouble]

@@BackpackingUK that's the one I have, about to take it out properly, but if it's anything like the Lanshan 1, the 4 season inner is rather hot in summer/autumn....so thinking 3 season might suit me more. It's weird cos draft do run through it, but I guess the solid mesh stops it? Hopefully the 3 isn't too breezy!

[@justgregdoingstuffandthat]

Looks perfect for me as a bike packer looking for a lightweight tent to use with a tarp in a forest, I have a question that does this have loops? so I can use instead of poles as I'm thinking of using two ridgelines 1 for tarp one for tent hope this makes sense :)

[@BackpackingUK]

Unfortunately not 👎

[@karlbratby4349]

how would you compare it to maybe the MSR HUBBA HUBBA, tempted but the material seems very thin and a bit floopy and those tie down points in the big panels look like they will tear very easy in the wind

[@BackpackingUK]

It’s well made for the money and it’s a proven tent. However, it will always have the drawbacks of a trekking pole tent. I personally wouldn’t use one in strong winds and rain.

[@realfingertrouble]

Did you add the extra wind guys at the top of the poles? Don't remember those from mine....

[@BackpackingUK]

No, they came as standard. This is the 4 season version so maybe it just comes on this model?

[@adamheathyt]

Thanks for the video mate

[@gonzalovilaseca]

Great review! Would you trust this tent in Icelands 70+mph winds? (with proper pegs)

[@BackpackingUK]

No way! I would never attempt it!

[@PKWeaver74]

Above 73mph on the Beaufort scale is a hurricane. I'm not sure it's advisable to rely on any tent in those conditions by choice. If it's a possibility that you accidentally get caught you want an expedition life support system.

[@TimelordUK]

I have the 4 season 3F UL TAIJII 2. I love it. How does this compare to that? (I'd never buy a trekking pole tent because I don't ever use trekking poles)

[@BackpackingUK]

I haven't used the Taijii. However, I often say I wouldn't use a trekking pole tent if I didn't use trekking poles.

[@roastntoast7550]

What would you recommend? the Lanshan 2 or the Lanshan 2Pro in the 4 season version? You've already seen both and can therefore definitely make a recommendation! Thank you in advance for your answer!

[@BackpackingUK]

The Pro 4 season is far from 4 season but it will block some of the chilly wind. The double walled normal 4 season will be much better in cooler conditions.

[@roastntoast7550]

@@BackpackingUK thanks for your answer.

[@ianhassall3757]

Lanshan 2 4 season every time. The seam sealing seems like a pain, and condensation in the Pro can be shocking. The L2 is a great tent.

[@LukePompey]

You say on the Durston video that it’s not your favourite pole tent… and insight into what is your favourite?

[@BackpackingUK]

I think the Lanshan 2 is better value for money and I prefer the Tarptent Stratospire 1. From memory Dan Durston designed his original X-Mid after using his own Stratospire.

[@martindolog2]

Can I fit two wide sleeping pads there? E.g. Nemo Tensor All season. Cheers, Martin

[@BackpackingUK]

I think the wide is 120cm. You might deform the sides slightly but yes.

[@rodoutdoors]

I have the original smaller double walled Lanshan 1 but got it with a 3 season T zip inner. This is smaller than the current 'Lanshan 1 Plus'. Great value and don't feel the need to try other trekking pole tents like a Durston since it's a solid double walled tent.

[@BackpackingUK]

The 1P’s pack up tiny, like a sleeping pad!

[@paulbache9874]

Andy - what’s your view on the 3 or 4 season difference? I’m not really a winter camper but for uk conditions would you still opt for 4 season over the 3? Thx P

[@BackpackingUK]

Personally, I’d 100% opt for the ‘4 season’. It’s not really a 4 season tent anyway so it’s perfect for 3 season use in the UK.

[@dannyknight8082]

Great review as usual Andy. I've been looking at this for so long.. Just bought the Pioneer 2, so thanks for the help with that. I have the hubba hubba nx so can't have both that and the lanshan 2. Hmmmm.

[@petelomax.]

Hi Andy, I just ordered one of these. Quick question is it easy to close the door from the inside?

[@BackpackingUK]

Very easy!

[@lefrash]

love mine. A bit difficult pitching in strong winds, but a bit of practice and it's doable, and once its up, its great in wind. The three season inner though can get a bit breezy if you dont get the outer low to the ground... not a drop of condensation though!

[@BackpackingUK]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@finchpyn]

For strong winds I always carabiner one corner to my ruck sack so it can never blow away 👍

[@derekhughes4028]

Any opinions on the Whislux Loary 2 Tent over this Lanshan?

[@BackpackingUK]

I wouldn’t buy it for solo use but it makes a lot of sense for 2 people.

[@ayrshirecamper7040]

Is it any good in the winter as it says it’s a three season tent on Amazon

[@BackpackingUK]

It's a 3+ season tent at best. Personally, I wouldn't use this in winter. It's still a great tent though!

[@adampankhurst8266]

I've been looking at this version. Their website says to seam seal the side wall tie outs...is that really necessary?

[@BackpackingUK]

I would if you’re planning on using it in the rain. Buy a Gear Aid kit from Amazon. It won’t take long to do 👍

[@adampankhurst8266]

Thank you.

[@farmerspud1270]

Quick question,this tent 3F Ul lor the white Forclaz trekking pole tent to buy??

[@BackpackingUK]

That’s really hard. They’re both great tents but for me I’m not convinced on white tents!

[@farmerspud1270]

@@BackpackingUK Yeah,I agreed the white colour is very hard to keep clean and to go stealth camping in. Thanks.Have you see the one Tigris Stella tent?.No one has reviewed it in the UK yet.Good budget tent but the question is condensation.

[@seswas1]

This looks as tho a good gusty storm would make it a very sleepless night tbh.

[@lew0071]

Hi Andy can you link the delta pegs you’re on about please. I’m not sure what these are but would like to upgrade my tent pegs. Cheers

[@BackpackingUK]

deltagroundanchors.co.uk

[@lew0071]

Thankyou

[@GRUMMPYOLDGIT]

I’ve got a Lanshan 1 plus, 4 season inner, can’t get on with it, the inner is fat too flappy, however I pitch it. Will sick with my Helm 2, even though, it’s twice the weight.

[@chriser9737]

I just bought one, need to seal it 😊

[@elliemalone]

Should I buy???

[@BackpackingUK]

You don’t need to seam seal the double-wall, 4-season versions, it comes seal sealed unlike the Pro.

[@mikelovesbacon]

@@BackpackingUK It does need its side guy-out points sealing

[@finchpyn]

I would spread it with nikwax as well as this increases the waterproofing massively

[@finchpyn]

@@elliemalone definitely 👍

[@Kev.B.4311]

Good vid as always dude...👍 I've got mine arriving soon, exactly the same, just couldn't resist it, as been looking at it for a while now & so this became this years bit of camp kit indulgence for me...!🤣 I had considered the T-Zip inner, but i think that J-door is defo more secure with a dog...✔️💯 I'm doing big tent camping with my mutt at the mo & it's blowing a gale...!🤬😂 but will hopefully have a nice little backpacking parcel to check out when i get home...!🙏 Excited...👍😄

[@BackpackingUK]

I’m 50:50 about the different openings, both have their benefits!

[@Kev.B.4311]

@@BackpackingUK Yeah defo agree, I do like both, but think that I made the right choice of inner for me with my mutt, as she would probably push her way out of the T-Zip...🙄🐕💕 Best thing is, wait for it...! I just got home & it has actually arrived...!👀🤯🤣 Seriously, it's here, it even had a couple of packets of emergency foil blankets with luminous whistles in the box🤣, must be a freebie, but still Cushtie & nice touch, but hopefully I will never need to use them...!😲🤞🙏 Oh well, no guessing what I'm gonna be doing tomorrow...!🤔🏕️✔️😄💯 Happy Dayz...!!! Have a goodun...!👊

[@mikaelbergman9108]

Love it to

[@gassyinc6406]

Hey Andy, I was wondering if you can recommend me a starter backpacking tent, I'm 6ft, and want to spend no more than £150. Thanks.

[@scottcoull88]

Both naturhike cloud up 2 and cloud peak 2 tents are in your budget and are great little starters

[@richardb7726]

Not Andy, but I thought I’d put in my opinion! If your looking for a tent, Andy is right, 10 out of 10. Some times you got to spend a bit of cash, saves money in the long run, but..this tent is cheap in tent terms. My advice, don’t buy a cheap tent from mountain warehouse or decathlon. You will end up buying another sooner rather than later. You will struggle to get anything decent under 150 quid, unless you go down the tarp and bivvy route (I have one, it’s not a bad idea) I would seriously recommend the langshan in the video. I have had one for 2 years now. A starter tent that will last you many years. You say you want cheap. This is pretty cheap. But I would still buy, it if it cost a bit more. 300-400 quid there are better tents, but not for 150 Obviously, it depends on what you are going to be doing, as Andy says, it’s fine for most of the U.K. But, everything is a compromise. If I was in the lakes or cairngorms in the middle of winter, I would think twice about it. I would take a heavier, more stable tent. But be honest, are you going to be doing that? It would be ok when it was high winds and lashing it down, most of the year - if you take longer pegs. But this is falls into insignificance when you take into account the weight. the weight saving is brilliant. If you were doing a distance walk or walks in the peaks, dales or lakes, it would be fine for your needs. A heavier tent, say, 3kg added to gear plus food, water etc make things a real slog. Save that for when you need it, in the winter I am 6’1” and have no real problems with the langshan You do need trekking poles (recommended anyway when walking with a pack, so much easier) and you will need to waterproof the seams (very easy to do). It’s very light and it works. Light means everything. You could do worse.

[@mikelovesbacon]

Lanshan 2 Plus, it might cost you slightly more than £150 though

[@gassyinc6406]

@@richardb7726 hey thanks for the suggestion, after looking around at other reviews and videos I have decided to go with the lashan 2 4 season. I only said 150 as this would be my first time backpacking and don’t fancy spending lots of money on something I might not enjoy. So 150 on this tent will be suitable for starting out and then if I do like wild camping then I’d upgrade, but thanks for the detailed response, really do appreciate it.

[@richardb7726]

@@gassyinc6406 no worries, I was the same. But, if you’re going out on your own, don’t want to spend too much and don’t mind roughing it, consider a Bivvy combined with a tarp Check out the book, The book of the Bivvy by Ronald Turnbull. A good read in its own right

[@stevewebb2102]

So tempted. But i love my Phoxx 2v2 and i dont think i can justfy owning 3 small tents!

[@BackpackingUK]

It’s the weight and pack size though, it’s so small and light yet is big when pitched.

[@stevewebb2102]

@@BackpackingUK you're right. Hence its in my basket and i keep hovering over the order button :)

[@Overworkt]

​@@stevewebb2102I have the phoxx too. Did you do a buy? 😬

[@stevewebb2102]

@@Overworkt I cannot possibly comment with an answer publicly. But one did mysteriously turn up at my mum and dad's house

[@willeymunda]

Which version comes seam sealed?

[@BackpackingUK]

This one 👍 not the Pro 👎

[@p3nnywise81]

Is collins outdoors legit? Sorry about the link... been following your reviews for a while. Thankyou

[@BackpackingUK]

Yes, 100%, same as Camperlists. I prefer getting my gear from them rather than risking Alibaba!

[@p3nnywise81]

@BackpackingUK thanks so much Andy! And thankyou for your awesome reviews. I've been stealth camping for around 20 years and was always under the impression if it's not broken it doesn't need fixed. Old school haha. You have certainly helped with ny spending habits hahaha

[@camperlists7090]

A company with 2 websites, Collins supports credit cards

[@p3nnywise81]

@camperlists7090 thanks so much! so you are both the same company! That explains it. Either or I just spent a lot yesterday. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@camperlists7090]

Lanshan2 series indeed a good tent

[@RootsLion]

chukles its summer you needed that 6 months ago but yes v nice shame they dont come with a pop up pole option not carry hiking sticks lark :) cmon lanshan chuk adjustable poles in n a camo one d be nice giggle :)

[@BackpackingUK]

I’m been away in Norfolk this week, you couldn’t go out without a fleece and a coat on 😩

[@RootsLion]

@@BackpackingUK count yaself lucky you can get anywhere .. without ya own transport in this cuntr your fkd smh i d give a fkn kidney t get t peaks or highlands

[@TheSotai]

If you had squashed it down, it would pack down to half that size

[@arranbailey4818]

I suppose I will have to buy one then., you keep making me spend money 😂

[@BackpackingUK]

😂👍😂👍

[@nikkirazelli3250]

heavy for an ultralight tent

[@thisbeem2714]

lol, it’s budget ultralight. 😅

[@stevenjones1797]

Love my Lanshan but 4 season,, nope

[@BackpackingUK]

I think that's a standard Lanshan four season owner response!

[@thisbeem2714]

I think I’d rather have a good three season tent and then if I must, have a dedicated winter tent. I don’t see myself winter camping though.

[@RootsLion]

an they all need to bring back quality floors bathtubs that aint tissue paper ya scared a gettin holes in lol or need an extra groundsheet under it thats slippery af lol n u still end up w a grass porch floor smh lol :)

[@BackpackingUK]

100% agree! North American tents are even worse!

[@FACup-eu2dt]

It's not a four season tent, the fly sheet doesn't fit, the pegs are crap, you need walking poles to put it up, and it's no good in the wind. This tent is 10 /10, what does he consider rubbish?

[@davidhudson7590]

Im weary of chinese products dont seem to last tbh a dare say in nlack friday sale i paid 23 quid more than this for msr exilir 2 in green seems a better tent alround bit heavier maybe but i dont half toothbrushes and weigh my bog roll etc 😂

[@typo4000]

Unsubscribed.👎👎👎

[@BackpackingUK]

Why?

[@p3nnywise81]

What an absolute bellend. Probably better for us all. 👍 keep up the good work Andy! P.s I got one to fill my tent buying addiction 🤣