Bad Apple Promo Video 1996. Not Cool.

[@TheBackyardScientist]

Sophisticated 3D objects.

[@neeltjegamingtjannelhdoffi4223]

+TheBackyardScientist Like your vids bro

[@TheBackyardScientist]

+NeeltjeGamingtjannelHD Officieel thanks!

[@tksxx3792]

Love u vids

[@sk_m]

+TheBackyardScientist What are you doing here?

[@shaunydepp3665]

+North American KZbinr you jel or something? xDif you knew who he was you would probebly shut up, this guy can poor molten aluminium on ur car and make a statue out of it

[@dunxy]

Sorry I missed this, I been just so busy installing cards into my pc so I can drag 3d objects into notepad files...

[@zeroplanet9]

+1

[@VeranumPIU]

Who drags a 3D model into wordpad?

[@mdgk5657]

+Isaac Ledesma THINK DIFFERENT :D

[@ligmaballzz]

+Isaac Ledesma You wouldn't believe all the knots Microsoft tied itself into trying to emulate this via OLE in the 90s.

[@robinder_]

+Марк Кандауров hahahahahha

[@robinder_]

+Isaac Ledesma I do sometimes to see the vectors of obj or of fbx

[@mlefeb]

+Марк Кандауров LMAO

[@AdrianGhastly]

Lol this is basically "SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T" But for adults. In other words: MACANTOSH DOES WHAT WINDON'T!

[@technologyproductions-ye3px]

Windows does what appdont

[@HamguyBacon]

+Idiot Entertainment the macintosh was developed by Microsoft.

[@technologyproductions-ye3px]

Hamguy Bacon wait apple and Microsoft were partners in the 80s and the 90s fun fact:the 1998 iMac and the power mac g4 came with awful internet explorer and Microsoft word and Microsoft office

[@shagstars]

+Tommy Whitaker because g4 is a terrible cpu to program for and were already behind the pentium 4 when that came out.

[@realgroovy24]

+Tommy Whitaker Not exactly partners, Microsoft provided IE until Apple made their own Safari, it's like how Apple uses Microsoft word now, there were 3 major players in the market then Commodore, IBM PC and their many many many clones and Apple so they were all competing against each other, I wish Commodore won in the end.

[@mariocuber51]

Lol, Apple was nearly broke in 1995. They must have been desperate when they made this commercial.

[@Kevin-oq7nf]

When are you going to pick up your laptop? I'm going Monday 8/17 at like 8:30AM.

[@mariocuber51]

Michael Dylano Uhh, I can explain... :P

[@ligmaballzz]

+Andrew Kritzler "Apple was nearly broke " Cool story bro

[@BENcoProdutions]

+Andrew Kritzler It was cus they pushed out jobs... Meanwhile he was out making the "Next" computers, which led to the future of macs. If you look at all the details on a NextStep the operating system for the Next range its extremely similar to OSX today.

[@devin8315]

+tmo1138 You're right, they were literally broke. They even started licensing Mac OS to third party developers.

[@DominicLondon]

It's funny how 20 years later we still haven't conquered VR or voice assistance.

[@computerwoespastpresentand4863]

Dominic London Dude, you are SO right! I remember when a guy I knew in 1992 (over TWENTY years ago), said that some supposedly credible source, stated that most homes, by the year 2000, will have a full Virtual Reality system! Damn, did they miss it! Remember, around 1998, when VRML was supposed to be the futuristic, "Johnny Mnemonic" Internet? Ha, ha! But no one can see the future. A ways back I concluded that the backbone of true entrepreneurial drive is the way that person perceives and takes risks.

[@hzuiel]

Dominic London Microsoft bought out several companies with advanced voice recognition software, but the implementation was botched to some extent, and nobody used it they found, often you could get there faster with clicks and keystrokes anyway, and a fast typer could way out type a dictation software. The voice recognition in most phones was total garbage up until mobile data became fast enough to allow them to send off the sound bytes for analysis on a server. Older phones particularly didn't have enough processing power to analyze the voice pattern and so they sucked horribly at deciphering language. Nowadays your voice is sent to a server and translated and sent back, which works much better.

[@hzuiel]

Computer Woes (Past, Present and Future) I dunno why people make unrealistic predictions about how fast technology is coming, it's already accelerating at an insane pace if you really look at the progress made behind the scenes that make finished products possible. Development in materials and manufacturing techniques. Just look at the tech involved in making the insanely tiny transistors in processors. We're nearing the point where they won't even be able to make them smaller and the next leap will have to be light based processing or quantum computing. Just look where the world was tech wise less than 100 years ago. Do people realize it hasn't even been 100 years since ww1, when they first learned how to fight with machine guns, submarines, and airplanes? Compare literally anything made around ww1 era to now and it's laughable. If you went back in time 100 years with one well stocked nuclear aircraft carrier and a jet fuel tanker and you could've won the whole war in a month, one end of the globe to the other.

[@computerwoespastpresentand4863]

hzuiel If I would just offer a stab at it, I'd have to first tell you that I am more of an idealist (as opposed to practical) and much more of a computer nerd, than a businessman, and far more politically revolutionary, than politically moderate. That being said, I am probably one of those people that would assume a more aggressive techno-advanced future, than what will be, at year 'X' or such. BUT I have done a good bit of reading and other types of research, and have seen more of the nasty complexities of human nature, that gives us horrible scenarios, such as smart science nerds, not so much being the money makers, but having to get funding FROM some Venture Capitalist, or investor, or such. Crap comes into play such as feasibility, trying to minimize risk, or more accurately the potential impact of risk. *I think that certain slimy aspects of business, hold back TRUE innovation. Businessmen tend to be vultures; not visionaries.* [Example #1:] No one has a solution for Microsoft being a monopoly. The last I heard, Microsoft was ta the LAST level of courts of the European Union. The EU was trying to fine them 600 MILLION bucks, as a punishment for becoming a monopoly. I'll never forget one time on a radio talk show, one tech savvy caller, stated to nullify Microsoft's monopoly, PCs should be sold "naked" (as I think he put it). I thought that the poor fool was OBLIVIOUS! Bill Gates has been regarded as SATAN by many Linux geeks, and this poor sucker STILL couldn't understand as to how Microsoft holds onto our BALLS! The pain in the BUTT that it would be for customers, to have to take a bare tower, and then bring it to some shop, to have their OS of choice installed, is a JOKE! It's downright laughable! [EXAMPLE #2:] If you ever saw the 1995 movie "Hackers", there was one part where a local cable access TV show, had two hosts named "Razor" and "Blade", that showed viewers how to hack a payphone, so that you would never have to (not exact quote) [...pay for services that would be dirt cheap, if they were not run by profiteering gluttons.] They were citing that business tends to be more of a "bait and switch" more so, than just some boss & workers who bust their butts for a good product or service. If you have seen the 1999 "Pirates of Silicon Valley", Steve Jobs quotes Picasso: *"good artists copy; great artists STEAL!!"* Another crude analogy to show that being the pioneer to something does not make you the king, by default: *"The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the CHEESE!"* It seems to be that the investors, just sit back, and let ALL of the technological prospects waste YEARS of their life, ALL of their money, and much of their SANITY, in developing some product or another, and then when it catches on a bit, proving it's potential worth, they swoop in and try to be a "partner" (nudge, nudge; wink, wink), but they are buying their SOUL!

[@hzuiel]

Computer Woes (Past, Present and Future) You are definitely right about the second mouse getting the cheese thing, and that has primarily been apple's game for well over a decade. They haven't been really a hardware developer for a long time, they mostly package other people's standards and chipsets into a finished product(and even then you never know how much design is outsourced with the way the business world works, who knows about some of this stuff, car manufacturers outsource the design of everything from individual nuts and bolts to whole cars in their lineups.) What they do is find the best iteration of the standard or piece of hardware that has already been designed and then find a way to market the crap out of it and make it seem like they just invented the wheel. Like touting the retina display as if it was their invention, and not an lcd panel made by some other company that they chose from a lineup of lcd's to put in their device. The tech world in general has shown that often the inventor or innovator of something is ahead of his time and will fail, and someone later will scoop up the idea and profit from that person's blood sweat and tears. The inventor of the modern video game was an engineer at magnavox, but him and his company got no credit whatsoever when the gaming industry really took off, and it took a royalties lawsuit and a lot of time for his name to become known as the inventor of the video game. Of course when they came out with the magnavox odyssey game console in 1972, nobody bought it, and some genius at magnavox decided that they HAD to build the console to ONLY work with magnavox televisions, thus limiting their market. So nobody has ever heard of the odyssey, but they have heard of atari, and atari was 5 years late to the party. There are countless examples of this. Apple made a big deal about having fingerprint recognition, when it was available in android phones years before, but at the time no apps supported it, so it was at best a way to unlock your phone. Apple waited until they had a laundry list of developers ready to use it before they even announced it.

[@dheerajvirgo3]

why the hell did he drag that 3d model into a wordpad???

[@Jodie842]

+Dheeraj S Because back then people thought that 3D data should be like text, sound or image data. Back in 1995 it was a cool as hell. I used make 3D models on Macs and I used the scrapbook to store them. And you could very easily copy and paste them between 3D apps and even drag them to the desktop to create 'snippets' that could be used in other apps later. You can't do any of this on a modern PC or Mac! We've actually regressed. Try copying and pasting a 3D model between 3DS Max and Blender. Or any application. You have to save them out to some common format and then import them manually. Back then it was just drag and drop.

[@dheerajvirgo3]

Danny77uk oh I see. that's cool. why did they had to take out that feature?

[@Jodie842]

+Dheeraj S They didn't take it out. They brought a new operating system called NextStep and rebranded it as OSX. A lot of unique technologies died with the old Mac OS, sadly. For example, it didn't depend on file extensions to identify files.

[@dheerajvirgo3]

Danny77uk hmm no idea why they did that. there might be some reason right?

[@Guglix]

+Dheeraj S There must be some issue with later systems, or people got used to computers and became dumb.

[@imcat_]

"You might be surprised with the results" That's because they opened it in fucking notepad.

[@HDFoxra]

...They were comparing it to what happens when you do the same exact thing on the mac. If you, ya know... watched... they dragged the 3D file onto a text editor and it opened up as a 3D object (which i think the real 'stupid' thing about it), where as on the PC it opened in a text file... like ya know, it 'should'.

[@alternativasenvideojuegos887]

BECAUSE IS ON VRML FORMAT. ON VRML YOU CAN EDIT A 3D POLY WITHOUT SOFTWARE, JUST WITH TEXT - USING COORDINATES... IT'S REALLY INTERESTING n_n.

[@chepe263]

just imagine people calling support saying "i dragged my 3D drawing into text editor and when I printed it, it was 2D"

[@AlyphRat]

at the Windows 95 part... You can actually see the model in Windows 95. Just look at the thumbnail.

[@orbithesun1]

Widows 95 did not have 3D rendering capability. Zero comprehension!

[@TheTigero]

Lmao 2:03 "Windows sucks because you can't edit a 3D object with Wordpad!"

[@ArtificialEDM]

Lol, why would you drag a 3d painted file in to wordpad??

[@yyyyyom]

Why would you drag a 3D file to SimpleTEXT

[@asuasuasu]

(Saturn) Because Mac, lol. Windows recongizes it directly and can open it...

[@FiyasbroGaming]

magicraft Not unless it has the required software to open the file, and remember, this is from the 90s, things were different back then.

[@yyyyyom]

Being in the 90s matters because? He still draged a 3D file to TEXTedit. Who would consider that logical or user friendly?

[@FiyasbroGaming]

D͟i͟a͟m͟o͟n͟d͟ P͟i͟g͟m͟a͟n͟ By mentioning the 90s, I was actually referring to magicraft's comment saying "Windows recongizes it directly and can open it...". So, I mentioned the 90s to drive the point that Windows now, and back then, can not simply "open a 3D file" or whatever.

[@thriftmachine5533]

But can it run Crysis

[@1karkar492]

yes it can at 8k highest settings😂😂

[@neilcoo]

It probably can't even run the original Doom

[@barbossza]

Only with no FXAA filters.

[@thriftmachine5533]

1 FPY

[@FriKuShAxP]

it can run star trek original series os only

[@EliaForce1984ita]

I wonder where's this guy now.

[@diegocejudo9704]

Dead and buried

[@KajuTheRudeMonke]

He's sitting and using Windows 95 now.

[@EliaForce1984ita]

Adam Waldo Is it really him ?

[@kellyfarrell7891]

Elia1995 'computer window 1995. Old O k

[@EliaForce1984ita]

Kelly farrell What ?

[@JosephdiCaro]

I almost DIED when he said "sophisticated 3D!!!" holy shit that truck was hilarious... I remember these days and that was KICKASS at the time boy how things have progressed

[@hzuiel]

Joseph diCaro Especially considering nintendo 64 and playstation were already out for a couple years at this point, so anything about those graphics was hilariously subpar by that point. Designing a truck that looks like that wouldn't have been considered that advanced a few years prior, muchless in 96. Fully cgi models had existed in movies for almost a decade and toy story, the first all cgi movie came out in 95. Yep, not even close to advanced.

[@JosephdiCaro]

HAHA you are so right! Man I didn't even think of that? WOW crazy when you think about it. Those consoles were revolutionary though. I had both and they are fond memories ;-)

[@AnagramMylarBalloons]

Joseph diCaro new computers are trash

[@rikzel]

Joseph diCaro oh yes windows vista will be awesome I hope! written from my pc running internet explorer from microsoft.

[@intomatrix1]

What did you expect it was 1995?

[@ViddyOJames]

that really good speech recognition that always worked in 1996 man, this entire video is full of bullshit.

[@syn010110]

+TheCheezWizz my android phone can't even get voice commands right in 2015 and it's leveraging google's servers to do the heavy lifting.

[@rithikkumars1676]

+Corinn Heathers Well, my phone recognizes almost everything I ask it to do .-.

[@Ashquacks]

+TheCheezWizz But honestly, it wasn't until recently that Microsoft actually started advertising voice recognition in Windows (Cortana)

[@DisgruntledPigumon]

BS? I was doing this in 1996 on my Powermac. It was awesome.

[@leonidas14775]

+TheCheezWizz Some might consider that software bloat

[@kylegam3broz9]

What's ironic is that guy looks a lot like the stereotypical nerdy PC guy Apple liked to make fun of in their "I'm a Mac" campaign.

[@shamicentertainment1262]

I thought it was the guy

[@akcjaxd7863]

Apple was in terrible financial condition at that time.

[@Dr.SHERIFF]

I find that good though, it was 1996 and they were talking VR LOL for dragging the 3D file into a Notepad however :D

[@Methylenedream]

That is some bad ass 3-D truck rendering !

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

For a mid 90's home computer, that's actually pretty decent for the time. Now, we have games that can support tens of thousands of polygons.

[@Methylenedream]

yeah, it was a joke bro lol

[@foreverforgotten4036]

pretty shit 3-D graphics if you ask me. there is barley any detail.

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

forever forgoten Oh Mr. Anti-Christ (from you avatar), this was a mid-90s home computer and primitive software.

[@foreverforgotten4036]

yes, and it still looks like shit BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[@maybeezra568]

0:29 Siri before it was cool.

[@OffTheBeatenPath_]

TheGuyFromRoblox she lost weight

[@FelixTheGhost]

When was it cool?

[@CorporalPig22]

Crap, ya beat me to it!

[@LastTimeLord12]

lol when apple cared about compatibility with ports

[@AlyphRat]

Nowadays they change the charge and cables for every single update.

[@MrEightThreeOne]

@@AlyphRat This is actually pretty inaccurate. In the 90s, they were *even worse* about it than they are today. I know that's hard to believe, but...trust me, when they had the opportunity, they'd use a proprietary port for the sake of it, even if it gave zero advantage. I'm not even sure where to start... * They didn't use VGA ports, instead using their own DB15 monitor port. While you _could_ buy an adapter, it was flaky and frequently had DIP switches for numerous modes in case it didn't function right. This meant you effectively had to use Apple-branded monitors most of the time. * While they did use parallel ports for printers, installing any non-Apple branded printer was pretty much a no-go. * The mouse and keyboard ports, of all dang things, were also proprietary. Just to hammer the point home, the name for them was ADB...short for "Apple Desktop Bus." I think that tells you about all you need to know. Admittedly, it did start a decade before PS/2 ports became commonplace, but even after they did become common, they still wouldn't switch. * This video does bring up that you can use PC floppy disks on old Macintoshes. What it _doesn't_ bring up is that you can't go the other way around. These days, if you use a flash drive on a Mac, you can just as easily also use it in Windows too. In fact, with all the dumb moves they made throughout the 90s, it really is a wonder they didn't meet their end. These days, the only physical ports I can say that they use which are proprietary are the charging cables (both on the phone and computer side). Pretty much every other port though -- display ports, connectivity, etc -- are all fairly standard things the computer industry uses, and they finally relaxed about using peripherals that weren't their own (which started after Steve Jobs came back -- thank goodness). In the 90s, you could basically say it was an unusual sight to see a Macintosh setup that had _anything_ without an Apple logo on it.

[@paianis]

​@@MrEightThreeOne PS/2 wasn't designed for the kinds of system architecture Macs used before '06.

[@Gamer208010]

@@AlyphRat They've changed it a total of three times in 20 years

[@ethanbosch3227]

Apparently VR is looking around in circles with your mouse and the "Same old thing" is putting a device into a PCI port.

[@ethanbosch3227]

its so hard to install my GeForce 6600 on my windows, But with macintosh, its just as easy! get rekt bill gates

[@NetwideRogue]

Look at all these things you can do out of the box on a Mac! You need to INSTALL A CARD to do that on a PC! *A few minutes later* You can run just about any PC program on a Mac by INSTALLING A CARD!!

[@SammeVEVO]

ikr

[@prof.torcoolguy7060]

Technically, it's taken from the PC where you had to install cards for everything, so you actually need a card to convert the content so it works on the Mac. Without that, we couldn't do anything regarding transfers. Apple Pay and others would be nonexistent. Think about it that way...

[@tylerfrankel5374]

I was about to comment the same thing... but then I saw that it had been done for me... :D

[@fahim8985]

These are the people that think milk comes from boxes. :P

[@prof.torcoolguy7060]

To be fair though, Apple was a wreck without Steve until he came back and fixed everything.

[@maxsimonidis9456]

Tell Siri hey this is mike. Siri: I'm not sure I understand

[@jorgeluna3739]

lol

[@josef733]

The wrong way to sell you product, is by bashing your competition.

[@pekkak.1411]

+josef733 agree. especially if thats the main thing in the add.

[@lordanjucero]

All companies are in the same boat then

[@hotlinecat5658]

josef733 Back then this method was hella effective.

[@paianis]

Worked for Sega in the early 90s...

[@JunshuLiu]

But the “Hello I’m a Mac, Hello I’m a PC” ad campaign is a huge success

[@moyako1802]

'Most PCs, by contrast, have no built-in speech recognition. So we had to purchase and install the necessary hardware and software ourselves [with the money we saved from not buying a mac]'

[@secondry2]

***** Rather support them than scammers.

[@TheGeekazoid22]

Ben Coates They are scammers, Apple

[@DarkShadowRage]

I like how he spent the whole time saying that mac was better than windows 95 and he still ended up using windows.

[@DeRobyJ]

"Hi, today I'm going to show you how a mac is better than a PC - You can buy a Mac to then use Windows because there are no programs in Mac but there are many in Windows and all the world use Windows - In a Mac you can make a 3D car spin... But I won't show how did we create that car. On Windows, you can't make 3D. - In a Mac you can drag your red car from the 3D program to the wordpad. While on PC you can't drag it... Wait, so you can do 3D on PC °-° - A PC uses wordpad as a wordpad. A Mac uses any applycation like any application - Mac understands "Hello, I'm your owner", and then it opens tons of programs. PC won't start a program because you just said hello to your colleague." Please remeber: you can install any Windows version (as well as Linux) on any machine that has the requirements. You can install a mac version only to a few apple-only machines.

[@aparks1437]

this video is now 20 years old ...

[@alvaroach]

Feel old yet? Lol

[@aparks1437]

watching this .. yep.

[@alvaroach]

+aaronpiper92 Well I wasn't around 20 years ago so at the moment...no

[@GamersCharisma]

+aaronpiper92 Dang, that just reminded me I'm turning 20 in a couple months. It's weird to me to think that this video was created the year I was born 0.o

[@kennymcormic5663]

+aaronpiper92 and apple still sucks

[@przemek4101]

Windows 95 had preemptive multitasking and Mac OS didn't have! Mac OS got this feature in 2001! The preemptive multitasking means that an OS switches CPU time between processes automatically. That's how it works on Windows 95. On Windows before 95 and on Mac OS before Mac OS X there was cooperative multitasking. That means that an app gets full control over procesor and after some work returns control to the system. But if an app won't do that, the system is crashed.

[@usernamunavailiable]

And Amiga was doing that back in the 80s.

[@JonnyInfinite]

Macs still don't recognise that installed SSDs have to enable TRIM support, you have to do it manually. Windows has had this since 7!

[@ThinkingBetter]

But Windows had a ton of issues with preemptive multitasking in the early years. Their pursuit of supporting every piece of hardware with drivers developed by teams often having poor software quality control made Windows PCs quite unstable. Besides, on a kernel level, Mac OS did preemptive multi tasking from the beginning (e.g. interrupts). The fact that Apple didn't want Mac OS to work on hardware other than Apple's own limited the applications available and that really was the #1 issue.

[@Jeff-Russ]

Mac are set up for Mac hardware. If you have Apple put an SSD in, it will be TRIM enabled. If you put your own 3rd party SSD in, you enable it yourself. It takes 15 seconds.

[@JonnyInfinite]

Jeff Russ fair enough, but don't call it "the most advanced operating system" if you need to go to the command line to optimise a drive.

[@capcadoi]

I'm going to ask for a refund on Maya 2016. I dragged into wordpad and it didn't work.

[@JonnyInfinite]

were you surprised at the results?

[@capcadoi]

+JonnyInfinite If apple is surprised, I'm downright shocked.

[@pythosoft]

2:07 "If you drag a 3d object into the editor bundled with windows 95, you might be surprised with the results" Not really.

[@syn010110]

This looks more like a promo video that Apple shows retailers.

[@StephanusTavilrond]

A Pentium processor and a PowerPC processor in the same computer? First dual-core machine from 1996?

[@nitorishogiplayer3465]

> Bad Apple Promo Video I'm disappointed that there's no Bad Apple

[@wizzo2280]

"At amazing speeds" LOL IM DONE

[@jacoboblandonpineda]

For the time it was fast as hell

[@wizzo2280]

true true

[@radoo4772]

+Jacobo Blandón Pineda He has a photo with call of duty as a profile picture.

[@realgroovy24]

+Prodo Dameuin Keep in mind that the software wasn't as bloated as it is now so it was faster back then.

[@TalesOfWar]

+Sony Trinitron Hardware also sucked ass back then, and I don't just mean relative to now, I mean in general. Resources were far, far more constrained so you had to properly optimise your code to get reasonable performance. Now you can write sloppy as code and a moderately modern system will happily run most bloated messes just fine. There's so much performance overhead in modern hardware.

[@lionellerichee]

This isn't Steve Jobs's Apple. The videos weren't as flashy and the sales weren't as high. But it's cool to see that Apple was still somewhat capable of innovating while Steve Jobs was gone.

[@elkaramani]

the comment section: "why is he dragging a 3d model to wordpad" "installing cards on windows" "so this is how siri was born"

[@cygil1]

This is much better than "I"m a Macintosh using hipster douchebag, aren't I so much cooler than the guy in a suit who does real work?" ads.

This was from when mac had technological superiority and marketing inferiority. Now they have fantastic PR and shitty hardware. Oh the future...

[@unicycle332]

No scripting in 95???? what about every language except applescript

[@666chapelofblood]

rtainc Ok, so if they were demonstrating that why did they open up Notepad and drag & drop a 3D file into it?

[@666chapelofblood]

rtainc How would you make a visual aid to demonstrate the lack of something existing?

[@Kyranio]

Back when Apple actually did things right, and actually trying... Now they will just add something useless like a fingerprint scanner to their product, and people who can barely afford food will just buy it.

[@justinmakesapps]

+Kyranio How exactly is a fingerprint scanner useless? It's actually one of people's favorite things about iPhone. The fingerprint scanner is extremely convenient for unlocking your device and making purchases through the App Store, iTunes, and unlocking other apps (like 1Password).

[@Kyranio]

***** But you can do all that with a simple password aswell... And Samsung has also placed a fingerprint scanner on their phones aswell. But that wasn't my point... Apple most likely wants to get the most money, yet Samsung and Google are more likely to go for actual development of technology. Aka, Apple puts some new thing on their product, then calls it "new" and everyone will follow like zombies.

[@victorzimmer]

+Kyranio Yup, Apple puts a capacitive fingerprint scanner on the iPhone and calls it "new". Then 3 months later Samsung puts one on their own phone and now they're calling that innovation. As far as I can see there are quite a few things that might have existed, but was rarely used before Apple used them, then after they did they became the standard everywhere...

[@Kyranio]

Victor Zimmer There is no explanation to why Apple sells so much, putting new things on their products. Other company's try the same, but then they end up not increasing sales... It doesn't make sense...

[@victorzimmer]

Kyranio well no-one else have tried to make their products feel like luxury products, charge like they were luxury products and still operate usefully like any other product. The competition has always been focused on making something inherently better, wether or not they succeeded is up for discussion of course.

[@mememe84]

Why bad ? He makes very good points. If I had the money back then I would buy a mac after seeing this, especially that I can dual boot in Windows

[@tarstarkusz]

That ability would have cost thousands and thousands of dollars. Also, he's featuring some of the most expensive machines around. Adding that Pentium card would have added at least $1000 (w/o win 95 or any PC software). The video personality card option (which might not be compatible with the Pentium card, meaning you can't have BOTH a Pentium and Video personality card in the same machine) was also a thousand dollars or more. Apple was and still is (though not as bad today) way more expensive than similar PC hardware/software.

[@kriss3d]

Well the thing is. Back then you couldnt dualboot as Apple used motorola processors which wasnt compatible with intel. The twist here is that the ad bashes that you have to install other programs in order to do speech recognition. Yes. But since Apple made both the hardware and software its easy for them to just implement it. On a PC you buy the computer you want, then buy whatever soundcard and such you want. Same goes for software. If Microsoft had made both hardware and software as well as actually producing the computer itself they could have done the same thing. Only they didnt.

[@allusernamestakenlol]

Mac sucks fuck you

[@mememe84]

tarstarkusz It is more expensive, but given that I have used both systems I can tell you that the price difference on the mac is well worth the piece of mind I get.

[@kriss3d]

Oddly I get stressed just thinking about the price diffrence as well as how much i have to look around to do things. Sure it might be just as fast for regular open a browser or a typing program but anything like setting up network and domains isnt that simple on mac.

[@LittleTrainZ]

Apple users = People who dont know how to a computer. Easy Windows users = Average person / pro who uses it for compatibility. Medium Linux users = Though a bad OS / pro uses it. Pro

[@VoltronX4]

Dom Baker Linux is not a bad OS, just because it's not used by the masses and probably not by you either doesn't make it bad, Try it for yourself, once you get used to it it will be your favorite OS.

[@LittleTrainZ]

Its bad in my opinion because of its compatibility and layout. I can see why people can like this

[@LittleTrainZ]

People mostly use linux because its free or its good for hacking.

[@novafawks]

Dom Baker nah he's right, you're speaking not from experience but from what you've gathered Linux to be. It's not what you probably think.

[@LittleTrainZ]

My friend has it. And kali linux is good for hack he said.

[@robatkins]

back in the 90's this was cutting edge. for those of you born in the late 90's / early 00's you more than likely have little or no experience prior to mobile phones being around. I've worked on computers since 1994, from Dos through every os imaginable. if you haven't worked on any of those os prior to windows xp. you have no valid point when saying this is lame.

[@violentinstincts]

19 years later and voice recognition still sucks balls.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

But it’s finally good now

[@mapleleaf123456789]

"Our OS is better than Windows 95 because we can run Windows 95 on it." Lol.

[@osimmac]

Why the fuck would i wanna open a 3d graphic in a text editor????

[@UpForDown]

Mac this is (***) Mac: Hello (***) let me set up yout workspace for you *porn everywere*

[@PsychicAnimations]

Yeah, because Notepad was designed to open 3-D models, obviously.

[@ShadeTH2002]

Nowadays, a Mac is just a $2000 FaceBook machine. It's literally one of the only things you can do properly.

[@h4x0y]

Would you mind supplying some arguments? Your statement is such a childish fanboy statement that I can't help but assume you have no clue what the strengths of the Mac are, or what they're used for except having a great facebook experience.

[@matthewholmes3446]

Its basically a pc, they even use intel chips and nvidea graphics (and shit ones) and charge the earth for it. Save your money get a better p.c and use linux if you hate windows

[@h4x0y]

Matthew Holmes Let's start by mentioning some values that you probably don't care about since you judge computers solely by the "bits and clock cycles per buck" ratio. Your computer (custom or brand assembled) manufacturer will probably always be assembled in China, have the worst environmental checklist and use cloud services that don't run on green energy. Setup will be cumbersome and then you'll have to waste time on installing drivers before getting a proper desktop experience. Then you have to uninstall preinstalled bloatware in many cases. All in a computer that has a high chance of being noisier, built of cheaper materials, have a worse display, be heavier and thicker in case of a laptop and overall less pleasing to the eye. The buying experience in the Store won't be as good, the unboxing experience will be poor, information about your OS and hardware will be scattered across many websites, and the support will generally suck. Moving on to the more important part. I love linux for its ultimate control, ideal for personal projects. I have absolutely no reason to hate windows, I use it almost on a daily basis since it allows me to access the worlds best collection of games. But my definition of "better" concerns what I can achieve in terms of productivity and creativity. I love Facetime and iMessage, the iLife apps, some great third party apps and the way it all mirrors my content through iCloud to the exact same apps on iOS. I use MS office and outlook mail without any problems, Google services have awesome support across all of Apple's devices, and then most importantly I use (and practically rely on) some professional tools that simply aren't available on other platforms including Xcode, Pixelmator, Sketch and FontCase, Ember, iA Writer Pro and more, and I absolutely need the flexibility of multiple desktops combined with fullscreen apps. For work, studies and personal creativity. So it's not all that bad and getting the best of all three worlds is a very positive thing in my case. Your argument would only be valid for users who spend 2K on a mac to do facebook and email.

[@matthewholmes3446]

Actually I only use use top end bits for my p.c. You talk about drivers e.t.c it's no problem at all if you can understand English. Anyway where exactly do you think your components inside your mac are made??? One guess ??? China same as the iphone which is also made in china. Your obviously an apple person I bet you have an iphone and an ipad haha. If you know how to use linux and android properly i consider both to be better. As for the driver thing on p.c it isn't really an issue for prob 98% of p.c users as they will just buy an out of the box setup all done for them. But to round it off I just don't think any of their products are worth what they retail for simple as, and your forced with a macbook pro for instance if you want to upgrade to buy a whole new system as its all part of the monitor (quite cool but could give you the choice here don't you think) limiting you to the screen sizes and res they deem fit (no multi screen either) The ending bit there is typical of apple products these days, it's like a designer label. I had a mac when they were a lot different in the late 80's when the software simply wasn't available on other platforms, sadly now it is all available on p.c and usually has better support as it has a far larger client base.

[@h4x0y]

Matthew Holmes Personally I'm not scared of drivers, I'm even planning of building an arch linux system. It's more about user experience I care about because the market for most designers and developers tends to be consumers who really shouldn't know why their browser needs a flash plugin to play some video (their goal) or what makes a great display as they prefer the technology to be transparent. I strongly believe people should care more about great pictures instead of megapixels, great sound instead of watts and great performance instead of cores and cycles. If you know one or two things about human perception, camera/display/speaker physics and processor architecture, you'd know these numbers aren't touching half the story. And I don't just buy Apple hardware regardless of whether I need it or not. A subset of their products suit my needs for the most part. Software support (be it OS or applications) has practically nothing to do with user base except when the developers/support team is practically non-existent and the user base is so painfully small it fails to build a great community. Consumers and especially professionals aren't missing out on anything software related when using a mac, as the out-of-the-box experience is great coupled with a very healthy content ecosystem, and pro apps like W Mathematica, Adobe CS/CC, Autodesk and many others are as good if not better on the Mac (let alone FCP, Logic, Pixelmator and other OSX software). And again part of me must be consumer minded for professional reasons, which is why I try to avoid the annoyances of some other systems mentioned in my previous comment as I believe consumers shouldn't face these. So there is definitely a market for which the Mac might be the ideal choice, especially when taking into account dual boot is a piece of cake whenever needed. I use OSX, iOS, Windows and Linux on a daily basis to fulfil my needs (the latter two for about the same reasons as you do) and can't ignore the Apple folks as a market because the users show some insane usage statistics for more hours a day on average and tend to be the ones who don't hesitate paying a buck for their software.

[@robbieking685]

Siri: MOM!!! I FOUND YOU!!! 0:31

[@LazoeJSCREI]

99% of the comments are misspelled fanboy hate comments, some towards Windows some towards Mac OS. Some people are even PUTTING IT ALL IN CAPS, misspelling it and hating at the same time.

[@oubrioko]

+skil3z - 99% *_Of_* comments

[@LazoeJSCREI]

oubrioko Not 99% but you get the idea, Alot.

[@oubrioko]

***** I was just kidding about the *"Of"*

[@GarethPW]

+skil3z "Alot?" Are you actually kidding me...?

[@nyxi2189]

+oubrioko of the*

[@doalwa]

First employee fired after Steve Jobs came back to Apple 😀

[@Lync512]

What about Linux?

[@asuasuasu]

Techmo906 At that time you would have looked like a hipster talking about linux, and that was true. Now no one is talking about it because Ubuntu and similar can beat any modern operating system for free.

[@Lync512]

magicraft Totally Though I personally use Arch and Gentoo just about any linux could beat a modern operating system.

[@asuasuasu]

Techmo906 Yeah but you're not giving a clean Arch setup to someone barely knowing how to use an operating system, say osx or windows.. Ubuntu is way easier and comfortable to use for beginners.

[@Lync512]

magicraft dont forget about linux mint and elementry os. Ive used ubuntu and mint and windows and osx cant hold a candle to how beginner firendly it is. (Though Macosx is bsd unix with propiatary binaries)

[@Lync512]

magicraft And I will say with arch and gentoo I have lost sleep when installing...but it was worth it (to me atleast).

[@ColonialPuppet]

This is Steve Job’s brother, Jeve Stobs

[@cicalinarrot]

I expected him to say "Hello, I'm a PC".

[@dylaninpieces2]

And I'm a mac.

[@Formerlyi]

A E S T H E T I C S

[@TurskoVideos]

+Anugerah Ardiansyah YES

[@bpmagruder]

*ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣＳ

[@perc-lu8cg]

+bpmagruder ASSthetics

[@Formerlyi]

David S. you don't need to explain to me. just don't be a fucktard from outta nowhere like him

[@Formerlyi]

***** yeah like when american troops doing while bombing syrians isn't terrorism

[@atteweppling]

WTF? Why the heck am i watching this???

[@HDFoxra]

I'm confused here... Why exactly is this "bad" and how exactly is it "Not Cool"? Its a promotional video used to get companies/corporations to choose a Mac over a PC... its not meant as a commercial broadcast to general consumers... and as such, it does a really good job at what it was designed for: demonstrate how the Mac is superior to the PC in those specific instances.

[@HDFoxra]

In today's day and age, yea its bad and generally illegal. back then? NOPE. Back then you HAD to point out every single aspect of what your systems can do that the competitors can't. The marketing was amazingly effective back then. If you want proof, look around you. 99% of all 'creative' businesses USE MACS. Now I generally dislike all that is Apple out of principal... but obviously this marketing really hit the nail on the head back then, because macbooks and imacs are all you see in advertising firms, marketing firms, news paper hq's, graphic artists' houses and offices, and countless other places... Hell many youtubers themselves only use apple computers because of its 'creative influence' which is completely stupid and idiotic... But hey, these apple computers only got a foot in the door BECAUSE of demo tapes like this being shoved into the doors of businesses...

[@Darimonde]

I have to assume for the moment that most of you were not computer buyers at the time that this video was made and don't completely understand this time period in personal computer history. I switched to Macintosh computers in late 1993 because I wanted to make movies and at that time doing sound, video, and animations was nearly impossible on 16bit PC's with DOS and Windows. Installing anything extra into a PC was a huge headache back then and might take you days to figure out incompatibilities. Artists, publishers, and designers used Macs because of the graphical interface, Pagemaker (1985), Quarkxpress (1987), Illustrator (1987), Photoshop (1990), and Applescript (1993), which all started on the Mac (applescript is mac only) and were just easier on the Mac. In their earliest versions you could nearly master any of them in a week. Built in networking made communication and sharing so much faster and easier. Windows95 attracted a lot of new software but the hardware was still a pain until PCI became standard, which helped. During this whole time Macs were working to get out of the design and music studios and onto the desks of Execs, secretaries, and engineers, hence the "Big Boy clothes". Lastly, only in last few years has Windows come up with Powershell to give something like Applescript.

[@speedysandisk78]

Maybe because the Mac's voice sounds like Hillary?

[@masterblaster5398]

Ikr

[@Stigm410]

Tell that to microshite they Apple bash all the time or haven't you seen the latest SurFace palm 3 commercial???!!!!

[@trystanidog2059]

Wow i can emulate a better Operating system on a mac?!

[@JonnyInfinite]

That speech avatar looks like it was drawn by a kid. _THERE YOU GO, MIKE_

[@matthewholmes3446]

Anyone that buys Apple computers these days is just getting ripped off. You can run all the same programs on p.c these days and get a hell of a lot better system for your money at the same time.

[@CntFndAName]

***** no

[@MultiYippee]

***** Coffee = $4 iCoffee = $12 So true. In fact, original iPod Touch chargers cost $10 but it costs $0.10 to make, so they make 99% profit off it.

[@matthewholmes3446]

Driving Gamer yep definitely well put man

[@Twee877]

this is more like a documentary than a TV ad

[@jrjubach]

Too much Windows bashing. They might be right in what they're saying, but customers don't like all the bashing.

[@intomatrix1]

Win 95 was pretty poor. Its a fair video.

[@jrjubach]

daz samuels Yeah, I'm sure it was. It's been so long I don't remember, haha. Imagine trying to use it today! Regardless, customers turn their noses up to finger-pointing and negativity usually. I'm anxious to see how much of a market share Google will get in the PC/laptop market with their Chromebooks or whatever they're called.

[@intomatrix1]

Try using it back then lol I remember video editing and crash begot crash begot crash :)

[@intomatrix1]

Duderobi Patschie i think the real issue was windows had win 95 and win nt simultaneously whilst mac had one operating system that could do it all.

[@intomatrix1]

agreed.

[@OfficalOxy]

Steve:"Quick Draw 3D" Me:"Paint 3D"

[@AngryColaVideos]

the only reason its bad is because it compares Apple Computers to windows 95. Never compare to rivals in an ad.

[@mrpotatohead7409]

Samsung originally directly referenced Apple to establish "The Next Best Thing Is Here..." logo. Its so synonymous that it no longer needs direct referencing, but they still use the logo. You could argue that the direct reference in marketing promos is one of the big reasons why Samsung destroyed all the other Android competitors. I think the bigger reason why it fails is its simply not appealing to ANY average customer. Even for the Pro Consumer, its a very niche market that's going to care about AV inputs in a PC. Explaining it for a good 4 minutes doesn't make matters any better. Its a poor ad for all the reasons Jobs came back: Too bloated and needed a good gutting, and forget that Microsoft exists.

[@chrishall2594]

why not? It's perfectly legal and ethical if it's true.

[@Ph0n3numb3r]

Jonathan Pusar not Samsung, all of android.. *facepalm

[@lorensims4846]

At the time, people used to say that Windows '95 made Windows more Mac-like. As a Mac user, I argued that it made Windows more NeXT-like. Then Apple bought NeXT and now we're all working on NeXT-like interfaces!

[@philipmiles7556]

Steve jobs thankfully rejoined the next year and saved the company. God bless

[@robkam643400]

I'm actually very impressed. I've been an IT tech/hobbyist for about 10 years, owning Linux, Mac, and Windows PCs - and I didn't know the old PowerMacs had these capabilities. It seems that Apple has lost a lot of innovation in favor or aesthetics lately. Not that it's a one-sided bad thing - aesthetics and stability are what customers are demanding nowadays. I wish that Windows had an iMovie competitor. It still doesn't, 20 years later. And Windows Movie Maker is extremely buggy, btw.

[@ratchet3789]

3:15 - Is that the Vive or Oculus Rift?

[@antonhelsgaun]

Its google daydream

[@freemanwalking1867]

It's literally the PC guy from the "Imma Mac and Imma PC" ads

[@MidnightMidas]

even mac needed microsoft word

[@drakemcgowan9078]

I honestly think the thing with having a Intel CPU in the Mac and then being able to switch between the two instantly and not loosing any work. Now why can't we have that now?

[@drakemcgowan9078]

I don't mean parallel. Obviously you can do that but with two different processors and running two difference OSs on each is really cool. We don't have that now

[@bleemstar2334]

You can do this, but it requires building two separate PCs and a switchbox. Really not convenient.

[@conservativesatanist4904]

you cant do it directly , because os allocate some fixed memory addresses so if two os try to run same time data will collide and ruin each others data. if you can make universal memory allocation for two os it will run without problem.

[@drakemcgowan9078]

Well it sure seems like they could do that in the 90s.

[@conservativesatanist4904]

Drake McGowan they could do it now also. like in video. you need to allocate huge memory like 1-2-3 gb then run in window.

[@JacobJonesy]

Holy shit! The way it sideloads Windows 95 with the expansion card is incredible!

[@AW-ip4uh]

Well of course it didnt work!! It was NOTEPAD!!!!

[@justinnamuco9096]

LPS June Bug If it was SimpleText it would have worked, but Windows did not have anything like that

[@novideohereatall]

Wow... Even then they tryed to implemet speak recoginition.. Never uset it and never will -.-

[@CntFndAName]

Maybe you should, it could fix your spelling/grammar

[@216V0]

if you turn the volume up load you can here sounds

[@zwerty007]

Really? wow

[@216V0]

***** tomatoes!

[@216V0]

***** aranges!

[@216V0]

***** macintosh!

[@zwerty007]

216V0 TOES

[@zedventurecool4871]

i was looking for bad apple and found this

[@ccricers]

You could switch operating systems with the Intel card without rebooting? Damn, even boot camp isn't that seamless

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

I actually thought the same thing, I would actually like to do that now :P Although I disagree with nearly everything else in this video.

[@qseep]

You can do this with virtual machine software, like Parallels, VirtualBox or VMWare.

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

Yeah, I know that, I just kinda like how both OSses appeared to be first class, full screen operating systems, and you were able to switch between them instantly. I think what I should have said was "I wish boot camp would let you switch between OSes that quickly", but I know there's the option of running a VM.

[@36191727]

Lyle Kopnicky and dont forget, u can download those softwares from the world wide web :)

[@JoshuasRecordings]

ProgrammerInProgress Me too. But wait... If Intel made that for mac, I wonder if IBM could make a PPC for a well.. PC. Oh, I forgot Mac does not use ISO files!! They use DMG files!! haha!

[@TadRaunch]

Holy shit, he can download porn AND type stuff into a word processor?

[@nedmcfabulous3788]

This video need more rappers.

[@bobbylow175]

3:35 he's getting a call in silent mode (old phones used to caused radiation/interference sound on nearby speakers).

[@osimmac]

Hey mac? wanna play a game? oh wait XD

[@AdrianoCROST]

Wait WHAT ?

[@PedoBear1811]

No problem let me just turn on my bootcamp. What you wanna play?

[@GeoNeilUK]

PedoBear1811"No problem, if you could go out and spend the cost of a full PC and then some on that PC Compatibility hoojimawotsit, then install a copy of Windows 95 and all the drivers, we'll be good to go!" FTFY It was 1996 and inb4 "HURR DURR SoftWindows" a piece of software written for the PowerPC processor that converts instructions written for an Intel Pentium processor would run Crysis I'm sure, but the framerate would be measured in frames per year.

[@PedoBear1811]

Its not 1996 any more. I got windows 8.1 and mountain lion. You can have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4GB GDDR5. But it will cost you full 2000 Euro. Thats why i think hackintosh is the way to go.

[@GeoNeilUK]

Video was made in 1996 hence the whole "PC Compatibility card" thing. I can't really argue with Hackintosh, though I'm way too lazy to bother, alternate OS on a (non-Apple) PC? That's what Linux is for, shirley? (Yes, I'm one of them)

[@ehamawytrja2681]

He *IS* ripping on windows a *bit* too much. But at least all the information he's given us is *true*

[@MyPathogen]

ehamawy He just forgot to mention the price difference

[@ehamawytrja2681]

***** LMAO

[@andrevschaijk1037]

ehamawy actualy not all, windows for instance already had voice commands build in in windows 3.1, only nobody used it because back then only nerds talked to computers/gadgets.

[@dominiksienko8680]

Also, windows was capable of 3D graphics, it just required additional software.

[@ehamawytrja2681]

Dominik Sienko yeah. additional (glitchy) software.

[@undocumentedspot]

I like how he didn't talk about gaming.

[@ArielMarcelo]

I hate Windows 95, I think Microsoft only got it right with Windows 98 SE, but if you need to make your product compatible with a competitor, it is not worth buying.

[@NutkeyDoesMinecraft]

A 7 minute ad... Put that on the air today, and good 'ol Joe will change the channel to Saturday Night Live.

[@MyPathogen]

NutkeyDoesMinecraft My feeling is that this was a promo video cassette, probably sent out on request, to businesses etc

[@user-nt3en1sb6c]

NutkeyDoesMinecraft yeah, there were only 3 channels back then and they shut down at 10PM and got live again at 8AM

[@user-nt3en1sb6c]

So they didn't have much of a choice

[@MaximRecoil]

NutkeyDoesMinecraft There were no 7-minute ads aired on TV in the '90s either (aside from "infomercials", and this isn't an infomercial), nor at any other time in history that I know of. Whatever purpose this video was made for, it wasn't for airing on TV.

[@TheGoblinToe]

+Dat Top Hat Umm, that was 1996, not 1956... there were hundreds of channels by then, and stations going off the air ended (with a few exceptions) in the late 80s

[@typingcat]

"Sophisticated 3D graphics at great speed" Lousy simple car 3D object is lagging when being rotated.

[@louistournas120]

+Jeong-hun Sin: That's normal. There were no 3D video cards to handle the rendering task. The rendering is done in software back in 1993. Notice that it isn't even textured. If it was textured, it would reduce performance to 0.1 FPS. You needed to buy a SGI workstation and those cost 10,000$. I think it was in 1996 that the first VOODOO card was released and that required rewriting parts of your program to use the GLIDE API which belongs to 3DFX. Eventually, 3DFx added OpenGL support.

[@brickson98m]

I wish I could install a card to make my computer be able to toggle between windows and mac os without rebooting the system.

[@leetmoka3482]

? run a virtual box lol

[@brickson98m]

+Free Meek not the same as running on actual hardware

[@leetmoka3482]

you could build a Hackintosh with nice specs and dual boot windows and OS X, but then again that would defeat the purpose of it being cheap and fast lol

[@leetmoka3482]

nice bike by the way

[@brickson98m]

Free Meek Yeah but I like that you can switch to each instantly, and copy paste to one another.. oh well haha. I've been thinking about building a hackintosh for a while now... and thanks lmao. It's actually my friend's little minibike. I've got 3 of my own.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

Today I learned that "virtual reality" is synonymous with 360 degree photographs. Thanks Apple!

[@IsmaelPerez777]

The future of 1996 is the present of today. (Voice-Over)

[@user-ln6pu7kq9j]

yes! It's amazing isn't it

[@user-ln6pu7kq9j]

***** hahaha oh how things change One day we'll think the same thing about iphones and laptops

[@vladcjskate]

"THE LATEST JAMES BOND ADVENTURE"

[@davelazenby77255]

I got to 2:19 I cant take this guys droning voice anymore.

[@shaynellertvarchive]

0:29 1996 be like: Mike: Macintosh, this is Mike. Macintosh: Hello, Mike. 2017 be like: person: hey Siri, it's me. Siri: Hello.

[@moseschang9434]

wait... add an pentium pc card and you can toggle between 2 os? and the data are interchangeable ?! that's so awesome!! O_O

[@dalriada842]

I wish modern promo videos were as informative as that one. The modern equivalent is a brain-dead pop video by comparison!

[@m.jackson8330]

I disagree that this video is "bad" or "not cool." All the features that are showcased are really cool and its true that most of them were built-in to Macs at the time. Our family had one: a 60mHz PowerPC. When I was 9 years old I figured out how to use the video input to record from a VCR, it was awesome at the time. The dude was wearing a suit? So what? Should he have worn a black turtleneck?

[@AtlasCave]

20 years ago- good products, bad marketing Now-overpriced bad products, great marketing The future my friends..

[@GuruOfGreatness]

Video Summary if you don't have more than 7 minutes: "Windows 95 sucks. Buy a Macintosh."

[@chevycaprice87]

That's why I use Windows 98.

[@victorliu9655]

But Windows 98 SE is better.

[@KrunchyTheClown78]

Microsoft, and Windows both still suck ass today, and Apple too. That is why I made the decicion to switch to Linux last year, it's just a better OS than either, at least if you don't count the lack of software support (which is increasing all the time nowadays).

[@alexfortonrock8916]

FYI Windows is microsoft no other comment (Linux is a good choice if you want to stay out of the OS war)

[@ChristopherGray00]

have fun with barely any programs that are compatible with linux

[@bokaboi]

I switched to Linux just before Vista came out. It was a very fun and educational five-year adventure. In 2010 I switched to Apple simply because it combined the operating system I had been using, with a focus on ease and simplicity. I figured, if I liked Linux so much, how much better would it be when the developers are paid to make it great. Mac OS X is everything I enjoyed from Linux, made simple.

[@alexfortonrock8916]

linux scares me every time there is a request to install Ubuntu No Progress bar when Installing.

[@Kire486]

everyone of you arguing over Linux vs OS X vs Windows and i'm just sitting here using BSD

[@RicardoCon94]

So that's were Siri came from

[@vladutcarson5530]

Ricardo Contreras they have bought siri. siri was a company in fact.

[@WCBROW01]

You can't change the workspace in windows 95? Last time I checked, there was this thing called switching users.