Bad Boy vs TORO Timecutter Residential Mowers

[@erniem7311]

Love the Toro Myride. Bought one in April 2022. But I am afraid to wash it. It as an electronic parking brake controller that costs $150 to replace. The brake control module has a lot of electrical connections to it. It is not water or rain proof. I washed my mower with a regular hose sprayer not a pressure washer. You guessed it. It got water in this module. The result was an intermittent short that would not allow the mower to start. The repair facility said that the part was not covered under warranty because there was water in it. A really poor design on an "outdoor" machine. I am sure there is a warranty clause if you do not do regular cleaning. I am switching to Bad Boy.

[@shadwell749]

I was hoping they got rid of those by now. That is why I won't buy one

[@horsingnaturally2244]

Get you a Bad Boy....you can wash it all day

[@ValkyrieRiderIPT]

I have a brand spanking new Bad Boy 42" MZ Rambler. The BB replaced a 27 year old Deere STX46. What I like about Main ST. Mower is, he may be biased but he does what most other reviewers do not...He shows the mowers actually cutting grass. I got tired of others doing walk around telling us how strong and durable the machine they're showing is. I REALLY liked when he stressed tested both on that super tall grass. He's the only one I've seen who has done anything like that. Very impressive! Thank you! You get a big thumbs up from me.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you Rocky, enjoy your new mower!

[@Dezryder]

To make a more solid review, don’t wear aToro hat.

[@youmadbro2561]

He is no doubt bias asf took him 4 passes to make the same cut with the bad boy with one pass

[@snot83]

It's not a fair comparison to begin with. It's a 60" vs 50. Big boy has a larger motor.

[@YTGamerBro]

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[@davidfisher3273]

I switched off when I saw you comment

[@YTGamerBro]

@@davidfisher3273 🤣

[@tonycarter8292]

Mowing twice as fast and half the passes on the bad boy...and 10 inches more per pass. At least he admitted he’s biased.

[@billyballa7002]

Want equal comparison, compare the time cutter to the Ariens or gravely 52 residential

[@rafaelrodriguez442]

Thanks for the review. I have an opportunity to buy a toro time cutter model 75748 for about $2800 at home depot. I wish they offered more options like the one your testing. Bigger deck and kawasaki motor. The one they have has a briggs and 42" deck. Is this still a good mower ? Worth buying? Thanks

[@mainstreetmower]

The 42" briggs is a good unit however I suggest shopping at a Lawn mower dealer other than big box stores like home depot. By shopping at a local dealer, not only do you get personal customer care but also get many more mower options to pick from.

[@gwd1974]

Just bought my first 50-in time cutter with the Kawasaki engine and I love it

[@mainstreetmower]

Great Choice Garry.

[@urinesoakedtroglodyte5764]

@@mainstreetmower I just bought an older land pride zr44 I want your opinion on it. It seems to cut grass good.

[@yamaha226]

Well, we now know which one cuts better. The badboy cut the high stuff first pass, the toro left most of it.

[@toxictophat711]

Hell i try not to be bias buy honestly i have had to work on a few mower brands bad boy and spartan are easy to get to everything a bad belt ect i personally hate exmark 😂 i left mine in a corner after the belt snapped a 26in push mower was a good enough replacement

[@ZedZane597]

That's what I popped in to say too. The cut in the high grass we as hands down bad boy.

[@keithprice2113]

Yep look like he had to make 4 passes with the Toro verses badboy 2 from what I seen

[@andrewpowell7723]

Bad boy is just better all around 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@martianshoes]

I’ll never know. All the silliness drove me away by 3:54.

[@danieltorquemadajr5395]

I just picked up a Toro TimeCutter 50” with the Kawasaki engine (model 75750 , same as the one you reviewed) and im impressed with it. It rained today and the grass was wet it was about the same height as the grass you was mowing and damn it cut it pretty good on the first pass that i just left it like that. And the engine was just powering through it effortlessly . Its a powerful machine for sure.

[@mainstreetmower]

We agree with everything you said Daniel. Glad you're loving your TimeCutter.

[@onebigkahuna69]

i just bought end of year model can't wait till its delivered, .

[@johnleon2594]

@@onebigkahuna69 how much??

[@sgrams3578]

@@onebigkahuna69 I just did the same thing for this year, 2022. It was delivered yesterday, 17 degrees F and 20 mph NW wind and more snow but I did sit on it and pretended mowing.

[@rcash3625]

Kill the music... would have loved to hear how the engines reacted when they hit the tall grass

[@mainstreetmower]

Rob, Thank you for your suggestion. We'll keep that in mind for our future videos.

[@myinlawsitsupport972]

My Toro Timecutter arrives next week! So pumped for it I bought a new shed to put it in! 50” Timecutter 75755!

[@mainstreetmower]

Wow. That's awesome. Enjoy the Mow!

[@therrienmichael08]

I have learned the most about Toro's, especially Timecutter. Couldn't go with any other.

[@mainstreetmower]

Great machines, for sure.

[@goodoleboy83]

But whats the difference in transmissions. the BB has a 3100 series i cant seems to find what the timecutter has

[@mobildestroyer5]

Worked for a company that ran toros absolutely loved my Diesel 72" Z-Master. Also had a couple older TCs were tough as nails but our boss bought 3 brand new Titans and 1 of them spent the entire season going back and forth to the shop.

[@joshua7999]

Having that grass chute flipped up would have helped

[@climbbike1234]

The Bad Boy seemed to chew up and spit out that Toro in the deep grass.

[@t3farm894]

Agree he ran through it twice with the toro the bad boy mad one pass each row 👍

[@charlesholloway7713]

It absolutely did. Notice he had the grass chute on the bad boy turn toward the tall grass. I've got a bad boy it is a beast. Just bought a 48 inch grandstand that cost me five thousand more. It can't touch my bad boy. That's a fact. This was misleading info.

[@jondeer5239]

Thanks for the review. Going to get a time cutter this week after watching some of your videos. Happy Easter.

[@mainstreetmower]

That's awesome Jon. We're glad we could be of help. Happy Easter

[@shortymac146]

Hey Bro, I appreciate you and your brother honest review of scag vs. toro. Your videos are entertaining and informative at the same time. I love your music adlib. Keep up the good work!!!

[@mainstreetmower]

We appreciate you taking the time to say so

[@sam560933]

I have a portal TimeCutter ss4235 what does the rattle black thing is broken because we have a Silverado is black

[@mainstreetmower]

I think you are asking about a rattling noise around the muffler? It sounds like you may have a broken heat shield, this is not an expensive thing to repair

[@swirvin704]

Just got a toro titan 2020 48” deck. It’s my 1st zero turn. I test drove my dads older yazookees zero turn before I bought the toro. I do notice his controls aren’t as stiff and sensitive as the toro after using it. Are there any adjustments to make the toro controls less sensitive and stiff ?

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi. Unfortunately no, there isn't a way. The best we could recommend is to give it some time. You would be surprised how quickly they grow on you.

[@shanemak47]

Toro controls are short throw to sum it up so controls are going to be jerky at best. There is a video showing the difference in control movements on a few different models

[@horsingnaturally2244]

The noise you heard were the blade spindle bearings going bad. This tends to happen when people cut something else other than grass, or they drag the decks too low to the ground. Plus there was a small batch of bearings that did not get lubrication. And Bad Boy has since upgraded the bearings to another part number. The bearings should have black rubber seals on top and bottom. If the bearing only has one rubber seal, and the other seal is metalic, then that is part of the bad batch that tends to get very noisy after about 20 hours. Warranty covers replacement of these bearings....

[@mattozx6rr]

This totally sold me on the bad boy. It completely out did the Tardo in the tall grass. Ear protection is used on these so the extra noise is not an issue.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thats Great. We're glad we could help. Hope you enjoy your new Bad Boy

[@JettaRedIII]

So, you really let your grass get that high?

[@dennistv598]

Bad boy is literally bigger than that toro titan toro wipes bad boy

[@johnshorba]

Is the bad boy magnum, (not the elite) faster then the toro? I just got the new toro 54 inch with the 24.5 v twin. I upgraded over the 2017 toro i had. I like it but its still slow up hills! I thought my hydros were wearing out

[@Austinphillips976]

No. I’m pretty sure the magnum goes 5mph.

[@eyefly001]

the real question is which one will still be running 5 years from now.

[@mainstreetmower]

This. This right here. Can not agree more with this.

[@derekgilson9479]

Run the hustler raptor x, I'm curious on your thoughts

[@mainstreetmower]

We'll put that in the pipeline 😀

[@chrisgolden5621]

I got a 60 inch time cutter, 2 years old, not one issue. No complaints here. My neighbor has a bad boy , thing stays broken.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing Chris. We're glad your timecutter is treating your right even after 2 years.

[@Darka150]

What kind blade protection Toro machine has? If I cut grass and there is rock sticking out, how blade will approach that rock or any other sticking out object?

[@mainstreetmower]

All toro must pass a rigid OSHA objects thrown test, that’s not say that a rock won’t hurt the mower

[@XloMotion]

That Toro is aimed at home owners with a couple of acre. The bad boy is more of a prosumer machine capable of doing commercial work as well home usage.

[@zacmiller8675]

Im getting a toro timecutter next spring as my first official zero turn.

[@mainstreetmower]

Awesome. Im sure you're gonna enjoy the mow!

[@frankgreen5005]

I have a new Toro Timecutter 42" 75746 for mowing a 1 to 2-acre yard (needed a 42" to get between many shrubs, etc.). will that ZT2100 hold up? Am in central Virginia, mowing most weeks from April - September. Thanks

[@mainstreetmower]

Definitely we never have a problem with that drive unit

[@CoalMiner379]

I have a 2014 BadBoy ZT Elite with the 54" deck and Kohler 27hp, had to order a new Transmission for the right side today for it but other than that for 10 long years cutting 6 acers year round its never let me down or failed, i recently bout the 2024 BadBoy Rouge Diesel and and it is a absolute BEAST, i dont have have a single regret about buying a BadBoy and i recommend them to everyone!!!!

[@somethingoutdoors1412]

Can I get parts for the time Cutter? Ss4235

[@austinblack869]

I have a 50 inch time cutter and it was my only mower. I cut so many yards, put through hell and back. Never once did it shut down or anything on me. Now riding a hill with it is another story.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thanks Austin!

[@zmankarrar]

I beat the ever loving crap out of mine! mows 6 acres 2x a week. lots of big rocks thru the deck 4x4 chunks and fence posts no broken spindles yet just really bent blades best qualitly money can buy rightnow. Mine is a 2020 60 inch timecutter

[@totogogocc5526]

I'm in California, giving shout out for Al.. thanks for mower you have him. he's awesome.. I'd visit butt too far. .

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for checking out channel. Appreciate your time and words.

[@williambranham4037]

What kind of blade you have on ? And were they both the same kind?

[@outlet6989]

I would have liked for you to show us the condition of the blades before and after cutting the grass.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for your suggestion. We'll see if that's possible for our next comparison video.

[@jlor7675]

Bought a BadBoy 60" Maverick yesterday. Chose it over the Titan. Thanks.

[@mainstreetmower]

Awesome. Hope it serves you well. 😀

[@chadrector4168]

I laughed so hard at the outtakes on this video!! Well done!

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you Chad. Really Appreciate it.

[@pabloserrano709]

What engine do you recommend on the timecutter. Kholer V-twin or Toro V-twin ?

[@joe5.097]

Have mine. For 9 years. Ss 5000. It’s beat already but still works My toro just won’t give up. Prolly has 600 hrs plus

[@mainstreetmower]

That's amazing.

[@joe5.097]

Main Street Mower yup just gotta make sure it has oil every use but she keeps going

[@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755]

Yep I've got a 7 year old ss5000 with the kawasaki motor. I've replaced the belts, spindle bearings, and change the oil and filters. I cut 2 acres of thick Bermuda every 4 days from May until October. I also tow an aerator and 600 lb mulch cart. I haven't even replaced the original battery. I keep it clean and in the garage when not in use. I've read nightmares about toro, definitely hasn't been my experience. My property is not flat either, the mower has been worked hard and still looks new.

[@keenanpenn1981]

thanks for making me buy the zt. it has been a amazing machine....

[@mainstreetmower]

We're glad we could help. Enjoy the mow!

[@ericstinnett9182]

How many out there would like to see the Bad Boy Maverick versus Toro Titan? Need someone that has never been on a Bad boy and Toro to give their honest opinion. Then have Bad Boys Maverick vs Toro Titan guys to do the same. Cut tall grass, wet grass, out outrageous grass, how fast, well you get the picture lol.

[@beautat211]

they are scared of the Maverick lol

[@spo307]

I am looking at the maverick right now

[@ericstinnett9182]

@@spo307 I end up buying exmark laser z e series the series 4 deck absolutely works great stripes cut quality is great, plenty of power on wet grass tall grass 👍👍 Plus my dealer is probably about 7 minutes away from the house 👍👍

[@spo307]

@@ericstinnett9182 i am pulling the trigger on a. Spartan rzhd61. Cant find a bad boy maverick back ordered 9 weeks

[@ericstinnett9182]

@@spo307 Wow to hats crazy, I bought mine just in time, cause the new orders that are coming in are $500+ so I saved a lot more money.

[@hardtop123]

deck noise in the bad boy is a failed spindle bearing or a failed idler pulley bearing on the deck somewhere......

[@mainstreetmower]

Possibly but both of the machines tested were brand new

[@lhaverfield1006]

I have a 20 yr old landpride that has been abused everyway possible. I love that thing. It mows three farm yards a week, real acreage. Husband brought home a bad boy from a friends auction. It sits high and wide, quiet enough running. The blades coming on was a reminder this is more of a tractor I'm on than a city yard mower and it should be respected as such for your own safety. Can't wait to mow with it, want to keep the landpride for smaller spaces and maneuvering around landscaping!

[@hardtop123]

@@mainstreetmower brand new huh??...did you grease the spindles before using it??....my bet is either no or very little grease in the spindles, or water has gotten into the spindles and destroyed the bearings

[@brandonb8879]

Exactly the video I was looking for

[@mainstreetmower]

Thanks for watching!

[@jippys1]

What lawnmower is better for my solution because I cut my house and cut the grass in a baseball field at the firehouse that I belong to 3 or 4 times a year.

[@vlloyd651]

Thanks been thinking about a Timecutter recently

[@mainstreetmower]

Go for it!

[@Anjanya1948]

when you started to go into the tall Grass my first thought was how do you know there isn't a dead body in there that would be messy and hard to clean off the machine.....just sayin....

[@mainstreetmower]

haha we appreciate the concern and are grateful that we did not find anything like that in the grass. Things we do for our subscribers...

[@donsmith7085]

Just leave the mess on the mower. Its fine. LMAO

[@tonymontana897]

So does the Titan have an option of the Kawasaki engine ? I thought they all came with the Toro 24.5 HP engine. Maybe in the U.S then ??

[@mainstreetmower]

The 2021 Titan lineup comes with 26 HP Kohler or 24.5 HP Toro engine options only.

[@tonymontana897]

@@mainstreetmower I'm in Sydney, Australia and I'm not sure when the 2021 range are due here. The dealers don't seem to know what Toro is up to either as it's all over the place. I just wish they'd get their act together because I don't know if I should hold off until the 2021 models arrive or buy now.. I don't know how much improvement they will be making over the existing models. Would you have any inside information that you can share on the Titan 2021 ?

[@jacobleamon4243]

I just bought a time cutter with the kawasaki motor on it. So far I love it

[@mainstreetmower]

Great Choice Jacob. We're sure that machine will last you a long time.

[@johnleon2594]

@@mainstreetmower I'm leaning that way

[@davelewis2870]

I bought a mx4200 4yrs ago, and can't wait to get rid of it, my property is anything but smooth and I've got to replace all the parts the deck hangs on, arm lift and both hanger brackets, once a year or so. The deck bounces and the brackets wear and cut through the arm. Bad boy is what I'm thinking of getting next

[@NashvilleGuy1973]

We got that the grass was rough and tough the first go around. Saying it 10 different ways in the beginning of the video is just time I’ll never get back 😳

[@rlstephens2380]

I have a bad boy i have cut every kind of grass and it has alway done the job kohler is one of the best engines out there mine has almost 900 hrs now and have had hardly no issues the whole time .would buy another one if i were to buy a new one

[@pleaseplantme-n3b]

Would you recommend time cutter for 10-20 lawns a week for a season maybe 2 ? I need to sit and have a very small budget ?

[@j.johnson6548]

It ran 20-30 yards a week for me last season which included a several commercial acre lots. It's still going strong this season with no problems .. just keep up with the maintenance.

[@toddrose1418]

Nice Edit, I enjoyed the video. Good Job!

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you Todd. Appreciate it.

[@keithnagy7464]

Great video! So how much do you sell that model Timecutter for? I know the retail is $3099 but what are you willing to let it go for?

[@mainstreetmower]

$3,099 and a priceless entry to the Main Street Mower family.

[@mattozx6rr]

He will gladly let it go for $5199. That allows him to buy the Elite with a Kawi and really get some turf mowed in a profitable manner. ;)

[@RockyTopSplash]

*1st time viewer.. I absolutley LOVED this video! Laughed out loud atleast 5 times. Love that you taking on haters instead of candy coating to please everybody. Not only was the video fun to watch and well put together it actually had useable info. Now it's time to go watch all your other videos. Subscribe button has been smashed!*

[@mainstreetmower]

Rocky Top Splash, you're the man! Appreciate the kind words. Hope you enjoy all our other videos, as much as you enjoyed this one

[@mauriesummerson441]

I concur

[@verlagdashofer5000]

I'm looking to buy this Toro for my landcare business.. I know it's not a commercial mower but my limit is 3000$ and it will run 2h daily at most.

[@mainstreetmower]

Verlag, our next video that is going to drop on Friday June 18th, might have a lot of useful insight for you. Stay Tuned.

[@spcgould]

From my understanding Bad Boy offers Military/Veterans discounts on several mowers. I've seen over a 23% on most of them. I've owned a Timecutter SS4260 since 2012. So far its still going strong. I did replace the deck, seat and tires early last year.

[@mainstreetmower]

That's good to know. Thank you for sharing.

[@LetsDIYIt]

I know this is a year old but can confirm. Just got a Maverick with a 54" deck and Kawasaki motor. Got a 23% military discount on it. The ZT Elite has a 25% discount

[@StanWilhite]

Bad bearing making the sound......also was tire pressure the same? Makes a HUGE difference.

[@gregorymandile2321]

Bearings go fast on bad boys for some reason

[@curlcd]

Bad boy definitely won that battle in the heavy grass

[@Methodical2]

A lot of people will chime that I used this or that and this or that is way better. Just do your due diligence and research and then choose wisely. They all have some kind of problem and nothing is perfect. Also, unless the folks replying provide you with detail information on how they use their machines (residential or commercial), how often, how long etc. take their responses with a grain of salt. You don't know them.

[@panchovillaxx7]

Yes and no,I own both mowers and let me tell you, a bad boy from 2007 still rides,cuts,turns,silent blades just like the 2020 time cutter,the only thing the toro differs from the bad boy is the fuel economy,it is a gas zip machine,I recommend both,or if you just a house wife and wants no trouble servicing this things,get the toro time cutter,ride and mow for years to come with only putting gas and changing oil. P.S toro costumer service sucks.

[@timlee2237]

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Maverick...good to hear they have a solid reputation

[@toxictophat711]

@@timlee2237 i had one for 4yrs this year im going out on my own but man ill miss the ole maverick i had the one with the slick tires honestly was so tempted to see about a set of the tires they have now i bet you'll like it there way better now

[@livewithnick]

Maybe you were wearing the wrong costume when you went for service?

[@cvlawnking2161]

I've used both. Time master trashed out after 4 months of use on 15 lawns a week. I had a bad boy elite for 2 seasons and sold it for over half of what I paid. Guy I sold it too still has it 4 yrs later. Timecutters are trash unless your doing one lawn a week. But maybe I had a lemon, who knows.

[@anthonymorrison2167]

bad boy is hard to beat I have 4 of them.

[@jllandscapinglawncare5032]

You definitely had a lemon. We use Timecutters on our residential crews.

[@chase3253]

Love Toro products-

[@mainstreetmower]

Great

[@ronanderson1816]

Good test ! Keep your mowers up and your blades sharp. Please consider testing a similar Spartan Mower. Thank you for your past replies.

[@mainstreetmower]

Great suggestion Ron. We'll keep that on our list.

[@snowrulesnate]

I’ve owned both and can tell you the Bad Boy left my kidneys feeling like they were ripped out of my body! Very heavy duty, but very noisy and uncomfortable because it’s so rigid. I’m running Toro Timecutters with MyRide for both my personal and landscaping business.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing.

[@horsingnaturally2244]

You must have had a ZT Avenger or smaller. The Elite's and above have swivel suspensions on front, and some upper tiers have rear suspension. If yours is bouncing a lot, you might want to consider leveling your yard because all solid frame mowers are going to bounce you out of the seat unless you own an Elite or larger.

[@markmarley7489]

Real shit!! I thought it was just me....had me tripping😂😂

[@bobbylibertini]

Man...if that's what the TimeWaster can do, I can imagine how my new Titan Max is going to perform when I get a chance to finally mow with it in a week or so!

[@mainstreetmower]

haha i see what you did there. Clever. Hopefully the Max would not be that for you. Let us know how you like your new mower once you put some hours on it. Enjoy the mow!

[@bobbylibertini]

@@mainstreetmower Gotta give credit to Taryl Fixes All for "Timewaster"- LOL! Thanks for the well wishes!

[@ironmaiden8625]

Freakin awesome music... I just lost my mind😂. I bought a Bad Boy Rambler 42 yesterday to replace my 11 year old Toro Timecutter. The Toro has the Kawi. It's in great shape. I might just keep em both!

[@mainstreetmower]

That's awesome that you get to keep both those mowers. Thank you for sharing your story here.

[@harthenry]

According to our local Tractor Supply (who sells both Toro and BadBoy), Toro pricing for 2023 has gone up significantly, making the BadBoy a better deal -- regardless of mower quality or mowing comparison

[@mainstreetmower]

That's good to know. Thank you for sharing.

[@tralfazsteamboat5695]

Looked up prices at tractor supply. The point you didn’t mention is that Bad Boy went up too.

[@greyghostkoga]

Something to consider with this test and the cut quality--- A wider mower, like the 60" Bad Boy in this video, will always cut taller grass better than a narrower 50" Toro. The blades on the Bad Boy are ~3.3" longer.

[@mainstreetmower]

That's a great point. Thank you for sharing.

[@dnycednyce1774]

I would like to see maverick hd 27 hp honda vs toro

[@mainstreetmower]

Gotcha. Will see if we could get our hands on one.

[@alrago1963]

Cool Video. Very helpful.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you 😀

[@bryanmendoza1535]

3 minutes into it and I already liked your video your funny 😂

[@mainstreetmower]

haha thanks man.

[@davidleatherneck]

Well, over my 76 year, I have read many Owners Manual for ridding mowers of any kind, that recommend you wear hearing protection. Also, the Bad Boy cut a better first pass than the Toro. Think I'll get a Bad Boy hat. Thanks for your review. Dave

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for watching Dave

[@Scooterwithaplan]

Picking a Toro over a Bad Boy is like saying I’ll take a compact truck over a full size truck and trying to convince everyone it can do all the same things. Just keep lying to yourself buddy.

[@JettaRedIII]

I just got this Toro TimeCutter to replace my 15 year old TimeCutter Z4200 which developed a crack in the crappy Kohler Courage engine crankcase. That said, I happen to really like the new Toro with the Kawasaki engine. The 50" deck cuts beautifully. I don't let my lawn get to the point where the grass is knee high, so I'm not concerned with the Bad Boy cutting the tall stuff better. I will say that the Toro has gone up in price to nearly $4000 from the time this video was made. Inflation sucks!

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing your experience. We really appreciate it and are sure that it would be useful to other viewers of this community.

[@larry7868]

If I were a lawn mower mechanic and I made my living fixing broken machines that are easy to fix. I would love the Toro machine as well. Always there and ready to be fixed! Does that make me a BadBoy? Lol. Thanks for the video. I have owned both. The BB Maverick is my ride of choice.

[@larry7868]

PS. When on the Toro in tall grass. How did you see where you were going? 😝

[@mainstreetmower]

Keep in mind we were comparing mowers in two different classes. The taller deck of the Titan would be a more fair comparison in tall grass

[@mainstreetmower]

We have many dealer friends who carry both brands, they all say the Toros hold up better

[@davidnorth3411]

Heating up those transmissions is the toughest job for the mower . Hydrostatic transmission is different than a PTO tractor

[@wncconfidential1764]

The hat said from the beginning no matter the outcome of each test Hes a toro man so that said the review is biased.

[@jperkins1269]

Another unbiased review.

[@mainstreetmower]

:)

[@eagerlawncare3700]

I'll probably never be able to get one five years ago I bought all Skag ...nothing has broke down ...yet

[@montanawhite5699]

The toro has an amazing side discharge design. Hard to clog it, and it shoots the clippings far.

[@mainstreetmower]

For sure. That's one consistent advantage we've noticed on the TORO's in all the comparisons we've done.

[@shanemak47]

I had a timecutter with my ride suspension system . It favored riding up against one side of the rails instead of setting in the center of the platform. At 30 hours had both hydros go out so I was told by dealer. Had a belt snap as well in that time frame. That was my last toro experience and dealer told me they wouldn't honor the warranty if the hydros went out again so once it was fixed I sold it for pay off and bought a spartan rt pro and never looked back . Toros are nice mowers for some but my experience wasn't the greatest after what I thought was a upgrade From my old husqvarna zero turn which only ever needed oil changes and blade sharpening...

[@toxictophat711]

Curious about the spartan mowers ive used bad boys and i almost went spartan but we don't have any local dealers they look sweet

[@shanemak47]

@@toxictophat711 so far my spartan has been awesome except for the habit I had running my deck in a water puddle and washing the bearings out that's been my only issue so far

[@Methodical2]

Was it use for residential or commercial mowing?

[@alanatimmons765]

Coming from a lawnmower dealership and a small engine mechanic shop, we deal with both of these mower brands everyday. Hands down, Bad Boy is the better mower. First, the deck on every residential Bad Boy is commercial 7 gauge steel, even on the smallest $3,000 bad boy. The Toro deck is only 10 gauge steel which is thinner so it can't take as much wear and tear. Second, you are comparing a Kawasaki vs Kohler. Of course the engine is going to sound different, but when you started those blades on the Bad Boy, that sounds like you've got some kind of issue going on under that deck you might want to check out. Bad Boy does not sound like that on a normal basis. It would be interesting to see what you have under those decks. Blades and baffles make a difference with how far the grass is thrown and how much grass is being cut off at a time. Nothing against Toro, but Bad Boy is the better option when it comes to the overall simplicity of design which makes Bad Boy much easier to work on when repairs are needed, because lets be honest, it's a mower and sometimes things need to be repaired or replaced. Also, with Bad Boy the fuel capacity is greater so you get more mowing done with each tank of gas, the steel frame is tougher for more durability, the list goes on...Not to mention, the Bad Boy just looks good.

[@mainstreetmower]

We always love to hear 1st hand testimonies from industry professionals. We appreciate your insight and your time. Thank you for sharing.

[@optimusprime3484]

Add to ask if that the badboy us made in the USA and they support our veterans.

[@jcewl93]

​@@optimusprime3484the TSC site says the timecutter 60" is also made in the USA. I'm not a veteran, but I did serve, so I can't speak to the discount. I guess that depends on the dealer.

[@ArELDDee]

I think this video ended up being a great selling tool for Bad Boy. No matter how much he wanted to hate on it, it still just cut better. Plus, I've seen Toro's for years. They have gotten progressively cheaper and cheaper. I am just starting to look for a new mower for cutting grass landing strips in rough country. I appreciated this video because it truly showed me that the Bad Boy just looks like it will last a whole lot longer than the Toro, and cut much better. Thanks for making this video

[@mainstreetmower]

No worries, we're glad we could help you make a decision.

[@horsingnaturally2244]

Amen brother!!!!!

[@chase3253]

Passive aggressive much?

[@getonlygotonly]

I would like to see any mower tackle the 4 foot tall Kentucky fescue and bluegrass in my yard. bring it on over and lets see what it can do

[@mainstreetmower]

You got it. If you're in Winter Garden area, Reach out to us on Insta, and we will make sure we visit you next time we need a lawn.

[@rondicicco9576]

Great video! Thanks for the info.

[@mainstreetmower]

Glad it was helpful!

[@keithprice2113]

Yea I think I would be embarrassed wearing that Toro hat after this video for sure

[@virgilhull]

Yes I agree Toro feels a lot better and it's comfortable I have two of them myself and I I think Toro is comfortable

[@bryanstaten5585]

Toro does not support dealers only big box......my dealer currently has one (1), zero turn for sale and said they don't know when they are getting any!

[@mainstreetmower]

We're really sorry to hear that Bryan. Inventory is very limited almost everywhere right now. However, Main Street Mower can assure you that TORO definitely supports the dealer. We have more inventory than anyone else on this coast. Check out our online store, you might find something for you here: www.mainstreetmower.com

[@boedriggers2464]

Use the maverick for comparison

[@mainstreetmower]

For this particular comparison, we intentionally chose a lower class of TORO to be compared with a higher class of Bad Boys. Our intention was to highlight how a lower class of TORO could easily compete with a high class of Bad Boys, and smoke it!

[@onebigkahuna69]

i just bought the Toro 75750 50 in kawasaki motor cant wait till it gets delivered,

[@mainstreetmower]

Congratulations on the new ride

[@t3farm894]

Not sure who you were fooling with this but the bad boy made one pass each row the Toro you had to run back over twice 😂

[@thomast6638]

My buddy just upgraded to an exmark and selling me his toro 60 inch kohler for $1000. He paid $4000 a few years ago. Garage kept new deck. I can't wait to cut grass.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thomas, congratulations on your new TORO. You might be interested in this TORO vs Exmark comparison we did a while back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3eylKV6hqtlkK8

[@TheImageDoctor]

Here's a courteous and honest RANT about the Toro Timecutter mower... I bought a brand new Toro Timecutter mower 2 years ago (in 2022) specifically for the My Ride system, because I have an acre to mow and it's really uneven in places. The My Ride system is a great idea and works pretty well, but needs seriously stronger springs. I weight 215 and it bottoms out all the time - but its better than no suspension at all. HOWEVER... the Toro Timecutter DECK is the real problem with this mower for at least TWO reasons... (1) DECK PULLEYS: I'm already on my third deck belt in only 2 seasons because of a serious design flaw where the LAST idler pulley on the belt path (in the "pulling" direction) does not have the small retainer to keep the belt on the pulley. For this reason, even though there is a strong tensioner pulley to keep the belt tight on the pulleys, the belt obviously softens and stretches slightly after mowing for a while; and sometimes its just enough stretch to slip OFF of that last pulley. When THAT happens, the instant you engage the cutting deck, the belt is violently yanked up under the last pulley, where it gets jammed in place and cannot be extracted without removing the entire pulley - at which point it has probably shredded the belt and burnt down or thru in places. It's a ridiculous oversight that will cost you a new deck belt every single time it happens, so you must carefully inspect your deck belt routing EVERY time before you mow to be sure it's still on all the pulleys. (2) DECK DESIGN: The actual underside design of the deck is horrible. Even slightly wet grass, dirt and debris will collect and cake-up so badly that in only a few uses the deck cannot even cut the grass because literally the only "open space" is where the blades are actually turning. At that point, nothing comes out of the discharge chute, and the blades begin bending the grass instead of cutting it. Deck washing can help but has its own issues and does NOT solve the problem. No matter how diligent you are about deck washing, you too will soon spend hours chiseling out debris that is caked on like cement, or your mower simply will not cut. And you will have to do this again... and again... and again... all because the deck underside is SO badly designed. Literally this deck is made to cut nothing except absolutely 100% dry grass, and it must still be completely washed out after every use. In my situation, that's completely unrealistic - thus I have a regular cuss-fest-session chiseling out this deck 3-4 times each season. As for Toro being responsive to dealers and customers... ehhh, that depends on where you live. I live in SW Colorado and bought my Toro at Tractor Supply; only to find out the nearest "authorized" dealer for parts and repairs is nearly 2 hours away. So when the mower breaks in THAT situation, you got problems. Knock on wood, I'm grateful that my mower engine (Kohler) runs well, and so far nothing has broken beyond what I can handle myself, so I'm able to mow what I need to mow. But damn it is a major a-whip just about every time I mow with this Toro TC. Otherwise, believe it or not, I really DO like the mower !!! :-)

[@Monza62000]

i have many mowers ,,an the one i like best is my 314 toro wheel horse ,,its a tank in a wet yard ,,my 1220 ford id great for my open field,,,but still love my toro

[@mainstreetmower]

That's awesome. Thank you for sharing Craig.

[@J_TRAIN]

Why wouldn’t you do a 60” timecutter with the 24.5 toro motor vs that bad boy?

[@mainstreetmower]

This review was in response to our first Bad Boy vs TORO review, where a lot of the comments pointed out that we had compared a higher class of TORO to a lower class of Bad Boy. Even though we did not necessarily believe that to be true, we created this review video comparing a much lower class of TORO to a higher class of Bad Boy. Interestingly, the TORO still managed to smoke the bad boy. You do not have to believe us, check it out for yourself.

[@lnugent1000]

It's obvious that you're biased with your Toro hat on

[@livewithnick]

It’s even more obvious because he actually said he was biased. 🤔

[@JoseGonzalez-jd9sp]

My new Timecutter Max arrives in a week and that Kawasaki engine is the real deal.

[@mainstreetmower]

Congrats on the new mower. Enjoy the mow!

[@JoseGonzalez-jd9sp]

​@@mainstreetmowerthanks and yeah I'll definitely enjoy it, been doing lots of research and the model I got is simple but very strong and lasts a long time cause it's simple and effective in every area

[@valleyconstruction767]

Why do you keep comparing two machines that are not comparable

[@greigprice1002]

I think you miss the point he was making the bad boy is a class above the timecutter....I agree with this bloke the badboy would drive me nuts with that noise it sounds like a ariens like its gonnna fly to bits

[@bbbustedflush]

@@greigprice1002 --Bought a Bad Boy today and his noise comparisons are completely bogus.

[@bobsmoot8454]

I had a Koehler on my Exmark and it crapped out after less than 750 hours, it was a single cylinder 18 or 19hp put on a B&S twin cylinder with 22 hp what a difference, I could talk myself into a Kawasaki $$$$, but I know their engines like Honda are very good.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing Bob