Bad Boy vs Toro Titan Residential Mowers

Two of the best in-class lawn mowers, from the two biggest powerhouses, go head-to-head in this review and comparison video by Main Street Mower.
Follow Chip as he takes you through a detailed testing and performance analysis of Toro Titan 60" and Bad Boy ZT Elite 60".
Product in the video: Toro TITAN® MyRIDE (60") 24.5HP Zero Turn Mower
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[@mainstreetmower]

A lot of people have commented about the video comparing a Higher Class of Toro mowers to a lower class of Bad Boy Mowers. Although we do not agree with it completely, we have created a video that compares a much lower class of Toro mowers to a much higher class of Bad Boy Mowers. Hope this puts things in perspective. Video Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOkc6OMZ9Jmgq8

[@ethanyates28]

So why does your machine retail for about $1,000 more shouldn't you guys compare it to a machine of similar price

[@berniesoutham2470]

That Toro model is a higher class than the ZT Elite it is a $5,999 model vs the ZT - Elite at $4,999. The equivalent Bab Boy is the 60 Inch Maverick at $5,999 and has suspension like the TORO Titan. That would be the true comparison.

[@2004lesk01]

correct bthis is a add for Toro!

[@splice247]

Yes and no, i looked at both the maverick and the titan, the maverick basically has big rubber pucks between the frame and wheels, while better than nothing, no where near myride

[@royalway12]

I was thinking the same thing. But wasn't sure of the price point between the two.

[@xRSAkingx]

@@splice247 maverick has a suspension seat along with the rubber pucks up front

[@russellbates1842]

The maverick HD has the air ride seat

[@stugg]

Bad Boy is more American, and read they specifically hire veterans and donate to veteran causes. Reviewer loves his toro with that chinese engine. I’ll ride the BB with pride. Case closed.

[@bosworth6100]

Reviewer mentions the shallow deck is better, so why does bad boy spend the extra money to make the deeper deck? I’m pretty sure its NOT because they love to waste money!

[@VNV67]

@@brucegoose6717 Yea what he said...

[@VNV67]

@@bosworth6100 Because a shallow deck will wear out the deck and blades faster. I don't know what he was doing but my Maverick will do all but scalp the yard. And also the Maverick has the same type of deck lift as the Toro.

[@royalway12]

Aren't the Toro commercial mowers still sourcing their engines domestically? I thought I read somewhere that they were still made here. I'm seeing great reviews on the Grasshopper mowers. I think Grasshopper and Bod Boy are both made in Kansas. The Chinese engines are a deal breaker for me.

[@Jay_Hall]

@@royalway12 K motors made in USA, Toro branded motors made in China, Toro seems to be using more K motors of late.

[@donc3271]

My local dealer sells both and says Bad Boy all day. I definitely plan on going Bad Boy when budget allows. If you have the time, ride a Maverick and then compare that to the Titan, would be nice to see a closer, on paper, comparison.

[@rodkirt9273]

BB has higher prices but some of the frame members are heavier but provides for a less bouncy ride . I bought my Bas Boy last week and I really like it : the learning curve is only about 14 minutes ; I has never driven a “Zero “ before c.

[@BS-ic2hb]

The hydrogear 3100's are identical so there hydro issue is a HG brand issue not BB. The comparison is not apples-to-apples. It should have been manual decks for both and solid suspension/solid seats for both. Saying the BB beats you up when it doesn't have the 'my ride' is not an equal comparison. This vid was essentially a sales pitch for the toro my ride, at least he says which ever you buy, have a good dealer network.

[@fredhinck8847]

Pretty strong bias to the Toro.

[@sooweeq123]

If you're on a mower for eighty minutes or eight hours a day, ride matters.

[@kennithosborne4553]

Everyone seems to have forgotten to mention that the Maverick has 3200 hydros that are rated for 1,500 pounds. I did a lot of research before I bought my Bad Boy Maverick with the 25HP Kohler and a 60" deck. Also, I like that the Maverick weighs 925 pounds. It is sa bettetr value and is more commercial than others and $6,000 price tag. I would buy it again without hesitation.

[@j.johnson6548]

Good luck pushing that bad boy if it gets stuck

[@victorpowell6491]

@@j.johnson6548 that's why you don't put any mower is super wet areas 🤦‍♂️

[@tedpappas1559]

Like you I also have done my research also and found the same as you. It looks like the Bad Boy Maverick is a better mower for the money. I was wondering if you have any overheating issues? I saw another video that said the Bad Boy mowers engines overheat due to bad muffler design. Have you found any truth to this? Thanks.

[@kennithosborne4553]

@@tedpappas1559 No problems at all.

[@tedpappas1559]

@@kennithosborne4553 Thank you. It looks like I will be buying a new Maverick as soon as I can find one available. Thank you 👍

[@jlor7675]

Thank you for these comparissons. Very helpful in making my decision of going with a bad boy over the Toro easier.

[@mainstreetmower]

Awesome. Hope you enjoy your new mower 🙂

[@gr6340]

Comparing a mower with suspension to a mower without 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@robertkiell]

big thx on this video.. can u do compare toro vs badboy commercial lineup and see what is difference? also make sure both have manual deck lift

[@kensmith3783]

Awesome job, Main St Mower !!!

[@mainstreetmower]

Thanks Ken :)

[@AdamsLeatherWorks]

Love the excitement! Considering purchasing either the Titan or the Timecutter, but I need to know what the towing capacity is. Do you happen to know how much they can pull? I have a 25 gallon sprayer, which I believe comes in around 250 pounds when full.

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi Adam. TORO's manuals suggest that the weight you're pulling should not exceed the weight of the machine. You should be fine pulling your sprayer.

[@jeffreystoesser6878]

After doing some research, the Bad Boy mower is priced at $4,499 and the Toro Titan is priced at $5,999.... the Bad Boy Maverick model would have been a better "apples to apples" comparison mower @ the $ 5,899 price point. Other than that, there are some good points made in this video.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for pointing that out Jeffrey. Appreciate your kind words.

[@ScottyLo]

I’ve been researching both mowers. The power deck assist versus a foot pedal lift is an option on the Bad Boy. Bad Boy maintenance accessibility is top notch with very few problems. I do like the My Ride on the Toro. Toro has dealers much closer to me and Bad Boy doesn’t have any dealers other than Tractor Supply close to me so that is a concern but not a deal breaker. Thanks for sharing your video. 🇺🇸

[@mainstreetmower]

Thanks for sharing Scotty. Hope you make the best decision for yourself and your business.

[@joes3485]

I bought a Toro model 74778 in march of 2018. Overall I have been happy with its performance and appreciate the "My Ride" shock absorbing feature (our lawn is quite rough). When new it did a better job than it now does. The difference I see now is that it tends to leave un-cut grass much more than it did in the beginning. It makes a slight difference if the blades are new or sharpened, but it just does not do quite as good a job now as it did. I have to make at least 3 passes now to get all the grass cut. I did develop a problem with throwing the drive belt off. A new belt did not solve the problem. I had to replace one idler pulley at the rear of the mower under the engine in order to correct that problem. I can't complain about that as wear and tear does happen. One thing I would change is to have quick disconnect method of removing and reinstalling the belt guards on the mowing deck. That would make cleanup much easier and quicker.

[@mainstreetmower]

All good points joe. Thank you for sharing.

[@ElfaboD]

The deck is the most important feature on a mower

[@kennethperian4370]

I am in East Tennessee 60 miles from CHATTANOOGA, I’ll check out CHATTANOOGA dealers see what they got. Great job showing and telling about the mowers and if y’all see my mother west of OCALA FLA where she lives say HI to her for me. Have a good one see ya next time see ya soon bye.

[@mainstreetmower]

Absolutely Kenneth. Thank you for watching 🙂.

[@GS-PR1]

Im starting to like this channel very nice reviews

[@mainstreetmower]

We're Glad.

[@jessebolles3661]

I still have my 98 toro with all original parts still going strong today!!!

[@mainstreetmower]

That's amazing Jesse.

[@jessebolles3661]

@@mainstreetmowerthanks!!! I will make a video of it at some point I love toro my next one will be a toro zero turn timecutter 54inch deck :)

[@mainstreetmower]

@@jessebolles3661 We cant wait to see that 98 TORO of yours. All the best!

[@Nunyabusiness539]

Not the same quality today

[@sonnygreen9698]

I have had trouble getting an honest answer about the drive motors, I have 6 acres we mow weekly with various grades some relatively steep but not as if it was a majority, how durable and dependable are the drive motors?

[@fredhart7904]

I bought a new bad boy today, ZT elite with Kawasaki engine, the dealers other brand was scag, which was much higher for the same hp and size, Hope I will be satisfied with it, have two friends that bought the bad boy they are satisfied so far,

[@philking8855]

i also have the bad boy zt elite, with a 54 inch deck....he's comparing apples to oranges with his comparison...the Toro Titan is top of the line for Toro...the BB ZT elite is not top of the line in the BB line...do the same comparison with top to top...not top to 1/3 down the line!!! I don't have but about 1/2 acre...I couldn't be more satisfied with ZT Elite and 54" deck!!!

[@bertranhymes9848]

Hi I have a question can you tell me what size tweels I can put on a 54' Toro Titan with my ride system

[@vernhanna4399]

So which is better if you do your own work ? I have a very rough yard and like the idea of the myride but on my current mower (husqvarna) just lift plate and have access to the spindles, that looks difficult on the myride

[@mainstreetmower]

The comfort of the MyRide is worth it

[@CaptainZap79]

Good video, but you probably should've mentioned the $1000 price difference. A better comparison might've been the Bad Boy Maverick.

[@christopherroberts6359]

It’s only $1000 more if you get the MyRide suspension system. They’re inline with wash other if you don’t get that option.

[@mainstreetmower]

The Bad Boy ZT Elite in the video has a financed price of $5,519 & a cash price of $4,999. The TORO in this video has a price of $5,899 and a $200 off promotion running until July 5th, making the price drop down to $5,699. The same TORO Titan 60" without the MyRide seat option is $5,299. So these products are very closely priced. The Bad Boy Maverick & TORO Z-Master 2000 Series compete more closely.

[@mainstreetmower]

In this case, the price difference is only $600, and while the MyRide promotion runs, it's only $400.

[@CaptainZap79]

@@christopherroberts6359 I agree that the price is closer if you take away the Toro's MyRide. But notice how many times in the video he credits the Toro with better comfort. Without the MyRide, would the Toro still win the comparison?

[@CaptainZap79]

@@mainstreetmower A quick look at (my closest dealer) Tractor Supply's website shows the ZT Elite 60" at $4799 and the Toro Titan MyRide 60" at $5699. That's a $900 difference. The same site has the Maverick 60" at $5999, so it's $100 more than the Titan without the promotion, $300 more with. Since the Maverick has a four wheel suspension system, it's more comparable to the MyRide in my opinion.

[@mikedixon3292]

Well if nothing else you gave the manufacturer of the bad boy plenty info to compete in the residential market. I have been talking to our local dealers for the toro titan 60 inch with my ride and their main complaint is with the customer service department. Thanks for the video.

[@mainstreetmower]

Glad we could help Mike.

[@thomko2715]

Always energetic 😂👍

[@mainstreetmower]

Always. For our viewers and customers.

[@bertranhymes9848]

Hey I love the videos a big fan of your channel I been looking to purchase a Toro Titan my ride and u tell me what year is it

[@mainstreetmower]

Glad you asked. Our latest video talks about all the features of the 2024 toto TITAN. Watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH_GgGmLqdWGeZY You can also head over to our website www.mainstreetmower.com to check out the latest models.

[@VNV67]

Dude you are comparing apples to oranges. I just bought a Bad Boy Maverick 60" about two weeks ago. I had a Snapper 60" cut and this Maverick will mow circles around it. Hop on a Maverick and give it a chance. Forget the ride on the Toro because you can't compare that to one that does not have it. I mow about 6 acres here at me home in Florida. Most of the grass is Pensacola Bahia. I think the Bad Boy got a bad shake here, but I am sure that Toro wouldn't be happy if you liked the Bad Boy. I tried the Bad Boy ZT Elite bu wasn't happy with it. I mean it wasn't bad but it was more in the class as the Snapper. As CS said, "This was pretty much a sales pitch for toro."

[@ronanderson1816]

If most features are similar, including price and engines, I would choose Toro because of the My Ride suspension , local dealer support, and parts availability !

[@mainstreetmower]

Right on Ron!

[@lostcontrol468]

I love my badboy elite,the controls are very smooth,not jerky like some other brands,rides smooth to me,cut quality is good,notice toro deck is 10 ga. badboy is 7 ga, wonder which is gonna wear out faster

[@retiresoon5639]

I will lay money on the Toro deck lasting just as long. I mow 2.5 acres of the most god forsaken dirt around with a lawn tractor sporting a 54 inch 14 gauge stamped steel deck for 12 years and the deck is still perfect. I have almost 500 hours on it. I don't wash it out and I beat the crap out of it. I have replaced the anti scalp wheels on it twice.

[@mainstreetmower]

Your Grass.

[@froggey5689]

If you have to keep saying your trying to be unbiased over and over, you have a problem. As others have pointed out, your comparing apples to oranges. This video is not helpful in anyway.

[@captainmike3027]

Dudes a schmuck, i would never by a toro in my life thanks to this guy.

[@polarisman09]

Altoz also has a Tracked Zero Turn

[@MikeM-vi3hg]

2 questions. Can you get a mulched kit for the Mowers? Where did you get that kool hat?

[@mikefrost3228]

One thing not mentioned was the bad boy has 2 commercial 3100 transmissions while Toro has 2 residential 2200 transmissions. What the difference you may ask? The 2200's has powder metal gears while the 3100's has steel gears. The price difference in these transmissions are as follows: 2200 $500 each. 3100 are $800 each. Because of this you have to ask toro why are they charging mre money for the mower? The bad boy will outlast the toro when its beat on.

[@mainstreetmower]

Mike, the kool hat is from Bullhog. As for the mulch kits, I do not know if Bad Boy's have them but there are mulch kits available for the new Titans.

[@holygod3737]

Can u also compare ariens apex

[@fredhart7904]

Mowers are not equal, I have a elite with the K engine, it is a mowing dude, loud but it mows good, The toro has that special seat, the bad boy has a special seat if you step up, Not a even test in my opinion, Also no toro dealers in my area, I think bad boy has eliminated the electric lift, mine does not have the electric lift,

[@danmac1827]

I was pretty sure the Toro would “win” when he said he was a Toro dealer😂. No way in hell a dealer would say the competition was better. I know Toro makes a good product and was definitely in the running when I purchased a new ZTR but I went with Bad Boy.

[@mainstreetmower]

Good to know. Hope that Bad Boy is working great for you.

[@evaneberspacher5975]

Blahblahblah, I’m biased and should’ve compared the titan to the maverick

[@joetterolison1286]

Bad Boy has the pedal deck lift system also Different model

[@darrenfincher7595]

Im going Toro as soon as I manage to wear out this old Husqvarna - gonna go work on that now - Great video !

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you Darren. Welcome to the TORO family.

[@thomasforrester370]

I read somewhere that alot of toro zero turn lawn residential mower are built with commercial standards is this true.i am thinking of buying me a toro with the Myride suspension to see if it is better on my back than the husqvarna 24v48 that makes me sore every time I get done with my yard.what brand of engine would you recommend for the toro timecutter with myride suspension and a 50 or 54 inch deck

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi Thomas. Yes, that's absolutely true. A lot of toro residentials are built with the same commercial engineering in mind. If you see our channel you would already know how much we love MyRide. Truly a game changer in comfort. The Titan (75315) might be a good options for you but it would really depend on how many yards you're doing.

[@thomasforrester370]

@mainstreetmower just my own got over 2 acres and it is a job for my husqvarna riding mower 24v48 cause it is thick grass and it stays damp even in the north georgia heat.what kind of engine would you recommend.i am looking at the timecutter with a 50 or 54 inch deck

[@TheSwampStalker]

Great review. I bought the Titan.

[@mainstreetmower]

We're Glad! You made a wise choice.

[@dannyboy6332]

I have noticed in all the zero turn mower tests, NOBODY puts them in 8-10 inch grass! Hell , a lot of rural areas get worse forms of grass that are much deeper.

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi Danny, you gotta check out more comparisons on our channel. You might be surprised by the length of grass we've put some of these mowers through. hahah

[@etslawnservice5338]

I mowed with the high end version of everything from hustler toro scag exmark jd gravely but at the end badboy is the only company to see 2 mowers out of me and when it's time about another 2 years the plan is to get 4 in one shot 2 54s and 2 36s

[@mainstreetmower]

Seems like a terrible choice. But we're glad you found what you needed.

[@Kashaww]

I've never heard of anyone else saying that haha. I don't know of a single lawncare business around me that uses badboy mowers.

[@j.johnson6548]

In my area primarily Toro ..Hustler ..Wright is what landscapers use

[@captainmike3027]

@@mainstreetmower schmuck

[@ericreeves3386]

This is the only video I’ve seen that the bad boy has the noise when mowing. Wonder why?

[@golongboard]

How would the Toro hydros handle pulling a bagger trailer?

[@gavinblack7154]

Wouldn’t be bad as long as u take it slow and it’s not more than 700 lb

[@mainstreetmower]

Thats accurate.

[@rodkirt9273]

The 24 Bad Boy doesn’t have an electric deck adjustor anymore . The BB has a new type drive hydraulic motors . The BB now has improved suspension , seat quality and seat springs . Both are very similar : in 23 after BB has improved their design improvements, it might be difficult to tell the difference between them . The best Dealerships’ , customer service will decide the difference ..

[@mainstreetmower]

That's great. Thank you for sharing.

[@davejustice7464]

You forgot prices between the lawn mower great review though

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi Dave. Thank you for the appreciation. We did forget to mention the pricing in the video. However, we have pinned a detailed difference based on pricing in the comments here. Hope that helps :)

[@Enchanted3DPrints]

Toro has been at the top of the game for decades. Thats why so many professional sports fields and golf courses use them. I wouldnt have anything else

[@mainstreetmower]

Kellen, We agree 100%. There's a reason all those golf courses and sports fields look so clean cut.

[@Enchanted3DPrints]

@@mainstreetmower My love for Toro started on the elkhorn golf club golf course at Sun Valley Idaho. We were hard on them and they broke but the cut is unmatched. From big fairway and rough mowers to the greens mowers fly mowers and everything in between they were phenomenal. QUESTION for you. When will they put an EFI on the smaller 36s and 40s. Im not thie biggest fan of Kawi engines but need a 40 for my fleet. Ive contacted Toro with no response as of yet. Heard anything about this? Can you get a custom order? Can you swap engines? Is there any reason you couldnt?

[@brianpuckett941]

That's what I tell people. If you look at a golf course or Country club they probably using either John Deere or Toro that's about all you see

[@rondicicco9576]

Wow, what a great video! The presentation is outstanding. Very impressed in the way each benefit and features of two well established brands were presented. After viewing this video I know which brand I would purchase and of course it would be from Main Street Mowers.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you Ron. We're glad we could be of help.

[@captainmike3027]

This guy was paid to say this thats for sure. If not hes an idiot

[@bosworth6100]

Can you also have a bad boy dealer compare the two as well as someone who owns a bad boy? I think that would be a fair comparison lol.

[@adamraul1744]

Kubota is the best all zero turn mowers come with a roll bar and there built like a tank

[@congaronbo]

Interesting comparison. It would be cool to see a cub cadet ztx5 or zxt6 with the suspension seat in there.... But im not sure how that prices out. My zt3 60 was 4499 with front suspension. I added a suspension kit under the seat for 200 bucks.... Mostly for my wife. I didn't care for the laid back position of the toro... But they are nice. I subscribed.

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing and for the sub. We appreciate it.

[@polarisman09]

Compare the Toro to an Altoz zero turn

[@Nunyabusiness539]

Test drove a toro timemaster at the local dealer, almost all he had on the lot had torn seats, just didnt feel quality like the bad boy, got the zt elite 54 and its definitely bad ass, mowed wet hilly terrain no problem on the day dealer delivered it, was first time ever using a zero turn too and its an awesome mower, nice regrets getting the bad boy over the toro

[@olesarge1724]

I had this choice. But I bought the Maverick. Its two years old now. Still going strong. Next time compare apples to apples… sheesh !😁

[@TheCommonSenseExpert]

I was on the fence with these mowers, the myride seat sold me. It was so comfortable. Toro model 75211

[@mainstreetmower]

Exactly our thoughts Alex. Hope you enjoy your new mower.

[@andersun16]

Late to the game. Would've liked to see what the actual measurement of the grass was. You say the Toro cut deeper - is that because is cut lower than intended or because the Bad Boy cut too high (ie a calibration issue). Otherwise, they seemed to be on par.

[@markjennette909]

You didn't make an honest comparison. If you had you would have used a Bad Boy Maverick, where they're both is the same price range. You basically compared a Lexis to a Toyota Corolla.

[@mainstreetmower]

Wrong Sir! We basically compared a Toyota Corolla to a Honda Accord, that has a nice seat.

[@markjennette909]

@@mainstreetmower not to argue, but it appears most of the reviewers felt as I do. Please don't get the idea that I'm putting your mower down - it's a great mower I'm sure, but you can't deny that you purposely used a lower class Bad Boy mower for your comparison. Since you're a Toro dealer you could hardly afford to lose using equal mowers.

[@mainstreetmower]

@@markjennette909 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOkc6OMZ9Jmgq8

[@vtv8man]

I went to my local Toro dealer to buy a Titan after seeing your videos here is Australia (owe you lots of beer btw). However I came home with nothing ! They were pushing a Hustler Fastrak suggesting it would withstand bumpy acreage and last longer. What is your view of Toro vs Hustler quality ?

[@mainstreetmower]

Ian, Hustlers are good machines to be fair. However, we still prefer TOROs over hustlers.

[@vtv8man]

Main Street Mower - thank you. I still love the Toro Titan. These appear to be sold out in Australia after some recent rain. Will wait a few months and purchase. However I must admit the new electric zero turn mowers such as the Gravely’s which are just emerging could be exciting. Hopefully Toro are also developing a range of electrics.

[@mxr248]

@@vtv8man don’t waste your money on electric!! also he’s a toro dealer so he’s not going to say something is better than what he sells!! Wake up! Bad boys are excellent machines! Toro don’t back their warranty.. you get water in the electrical wires and they short out they don’t cover it! Yet their connections aren’t water proof which is stupid. Plus there pin system for adjusting the deck can bounce out and then scalp your grass. The plastic shoot on the toro breaks easily to. List goes on.. bad boy hydros have separate filters and easy to change fluids!

[@NoOne-ml6nl]

Get a BB

[@Saveyourbs]

You have messed up.

[@jamesm7346]

Great video, I am in the market for the maverick or the Toro elite. I really need help to make a decision. The Toro has $500 rebate. so with the cash discount I can get it drive out for $6800 versus the maverick about $8000.🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mainstreetmower]

Which brand has a better dealer near you? That would be my final vote for this decision.

[@mrme9517]

Maverick or the HD would be a Cadillac compared to the Toro with the suspension they put on it and suspension seat on the HD they can be loud but 1 guy did add a piece of pipe and aimed it backwards since it echos off the frame

[@dstarzfn]

If only Toro offered the same type of discount Bad Boy does to first responders and military I might put more consideration into a Toro. The savings I get from Bad Boy is more than enough for them to be at the top of my list.

[@bsahlke8844]

Toro offers 18% off to first responders and military.

[@dstarzfn]

@@bsahlke8844 I bought the ZT Elite because I got 25% off

[@NoOne-ml6nl]

I have the ZT Elite...ask most anyone...BB prides itself on building sturdier mowers at equal price points compared to other dealers...He shows a 1k-1.5k more expensive model from Toro and is big complaint is loudness and bumpy...after having an upgrade seat option on the Toro...he never compares apples to apples in his videos because he knows BB can't be beat on price and options...

[@gr6340]

Cant be unbiased when u sell Toro lol

[@retiresoon5639]

I can agree to a point. They sell both in my area. I have checked both out and the Toro to me is the clear winner. My lawn is very rough and Bad Boy mowers are in the stone age when it comes to operator comfort.

[@sherrihawthorne6420]

Great comparison!

[@mainstreetmower]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jonhudson6981]

Bought a Toro push mower once many years ago. It threw a rod out the side of the motor on the first day. Took it back to the dealer, he said I put to much oil in it (bullshit!), and he wouldn't do a thing about it. I have never bought a Toro again and never will.

[@mainstreetmower]

John, we're sorry that you had a bad dealer experience. That experience,, however, is not typical of the brand or the product.

[@aideningram434]

Both look great but keep in mind this is 2 different mowers at 2 different pricepoints

[@mainstreetmower]

Yes. Thank you for sharing Aiden. We also made a comparison of these same brands but with machines that are more closely aligned. You can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOkc6OMZ9Jmgq8

[@ohioan2949]

All of your filibuster reminds me that those who can do; those who can't. talk about it. The video is like an orange grower demonstrating whether it is easier to squeeze juice from an orange or an apple Compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Both mowers should be comparable including ride suspensions.

[@harryerhart5978]

That field looks familiar??? I've been there before!!

[@mainstreetmower]

Yesss. It's the one from the new Toro vs John Deere video we just dropped (and you starred in 😉).

[@valleyconstruction767]

Why are you comparing a mower with suspension to a mower with no suspension 🙄🙄🙄

[@WallsBeeMan]

I bought the Titan and I hate the parking break How can I bypass the kill switch ?

[@mainstreetmower]

We’ll leave that question to someone else to answer. I would strongly recommend to get used to it, that machine uses a barb to keep the brake from falling down. It’s very effective, just takes a little pressure to the right before dropping the brake.

[@johnhill7480]

If toro put a kawi or kohler id jump on that titan. I refuse to pay good money for a loncin chinese engine regardless of how they hold up. Toro should atleast offer a option and upgrade those hydros to 3100s

[@mainstreetmower]

John, something to consider about the TORO engine is that it is warrantied through TORO. Going through a 3rd party for engine repairs could be a long and sometimes disheartening process. TORO on the other hand really stands behind their engines. It's like Apple, who're trying to do everything in-house to provide the customers with the most convenience, instead of depending on 3rd party manufacturers. I understand your concern, but as a dealer, I have seen fewest issues with the TORO, compared to other brands of Prosumer Engines. As far as the 3100's go, sure that would be cool. But the 2800's are really just as good. We called hydrogear to compare differences, and they said: "There are almost none"

[@johnhill7480]

@@mainstreetmower I believe 3100s are steel vs powder coated gears and there's slightly more towards commercial grade with additional trq. If loncin was a American owned American manufactured company I would support Toros in house engine. The fact that Toro a American company chose to out source there engines to China tells me they are saving money at the expense of a American citizen. With record high unemployment in this country and the origins of this pandemic why would I support or purchase anything from that region. Toro should design and manufacture there own engines in America. With the huge costumer fan base Toro has there is no excuse to cut corners and outsource engines to China.

[@royalway12]

Comparing apples to oranges here.

[@mainstreetmower]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOkc6OMZ9Jmgq8

[@freepress6665]

Bad Boy Maverick would have blown away the Toro in this

[@Rescuetech16]

How about doing a 🍎 for 🍎 toro vs spartan . Commercial grade. Also high end residential toro vs RZHD .

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing dean. We will consider doing those comparisons

[@Rescuetech16]

@@mainstreetmower thank you , I own a Spartan and thought about getting a toro for my 2nd mower . Great job with your videos .

[@mainstreetmower]

@@Rescuetech16 Thank you

[@davidjudd221]

How does the Grasshopper equivalent compare to the Toro?

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi David. That's a very interesting topic. We'll see if we can make a detailed review on it and upload it here.

[@davidjudd221]

Thank you.

[@kenshaum3994]

Blade height is not set accurate at the factory, the dealer needs to set that right

[@captainmike3027]

Definitely a toro ad

[@browndog3315]

"I'm going give a fair comparison, as a Toro guy, OK, the Toro is amazing, awesome outstanding, great, perfect, stupendous. The Bad Boy? I mean it's okay but that Toro is unreal. "

[@billyladd8569]

While I think that the reviewer did his best to do a fair review of these two mowers I don't think he understands who the Bad boy is being marketed to. I would challenge that Toro to cut my lawn for the next 2-5 years and compair the wear on that mower next to the wear on a Badboy. My guess is that the thinner harder metal of the Toro will crack under the abuse of what used to be pasture land on hilley uneven terrain before the Badboy deck. I ha e seen what myand can do to a thinner deck and it's not pretty or cheap.

[@michaelfrey9736]

It's all about supension for me. I know both brands are reliable, but it comes down to wear and tear on my body.

[@mainstreetmower]

Amen Michael. We agree.

[@Commoncents321]

Never watch a video from a biased salesman and he readily admits and it shows

[@joewatson5801]

Video would have more credibility had not a dealer for one of the mowers had been involved.

[@ronniegarmon5760]

Definitely not an unbiased review. This was a sales pitch all the way for Toro! I'll take a Bad Boy over Toro any day.

[@Fultonfalcons86]

I have seen the a bad boy with a Perkins diesel and a turbo on it and man that is one bad ass mower but I have a Ferris which is so smooth and agile and it never scalps...

[@derek9319]

Can't compare mowers that don't have my-ride/easy-ride options. The test should have been done w/o the My-Ride option, and then with. From what I can tell, Bad Boy just added this feature. Looking for an updated video to fairly compare products.

[@mainstreetmower]

We also created a video comparing a much lower class of Toro mowers to a much higher class of Bad Boy Mowers. Just to keep things interesting. You ca check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXOkc6OMZ9Jmgq8

[@derek9319]

@@mainstreetmower just recalling looking at the Titan Max and Titan Max Havoc. Main difference I see is the transmission. Might be nice to see The Titan Max Havoc vs Exmark and Scags different lineups and price offerings to see if paying more is better and if so in what situations. Thanks

[@mainstreetmower]

@@derek9319 Good idea Derek, we'll see what we can do.

[@15522sniper]

I don't think you can compare the broadcast of the deck ejection when, under the chute, Toro has a notched deck for top ejection into a bagging system. This is what is creating the distance on clipping output.

[@mattwright2146]

I respect your evaluation but you have a built in bias that does effect your review

[@mainstreetmower]

Thanks for your comment!

[@jimmydickson8854]

Durability and less down time is what we need to make money

[@mainstreetmower]

We agree Jimmy.

[@ronanderson1816]

Next time compare the Spartan !

[@mainstreetmower]

Duly noted Ron. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@darrenrhodes2580]

And when was the unbiased part going to start😄

[@kwmiked]

Grass quality cut side by side would have been ideal 🤷‍♂️ not just distant shots of u running in circles.

[@mainstreetmower]

Noted. Thank you for your comment. This helps us in making our video experience better for our viewers.

[@Saveyourbs]

Bought a bad boy ZT elite. Been whippin ass ever since. Dude I’m not buying a toro 😂😂😂

[@mainstreetmower]

That's good to hear. Whatever works for you, works. Thank you for sharing.

[@Saveyourbs]

@@mainstreetmower you got bro! Bad Boy for life!

[@mike71dee]

Of Course You Gonna Pick The Toro Over The Badboy When you said at the beginning you sale Toro

[@captainmike3027]

Biased and rigged

[@gr6340]

Shudda been compared with the maverick

[@silveradostornados6174]

The elite is a residential mower not comercial

[@kvboyd]

Toro is the parent company of bad boy. How can you compare the two?

[@mainstreetmower]

No affiliation at all

[@rafaelacosta8822]

This is so biased. The anti scalp excuse about the mounts was sad. The Bad Boy had beefier mounts compared to Toro's stamped mounts. The Toro deck would be easier to lift since the steel is thinner. At our local Tractor Supply the three Toro models have been sitting there all summer and there is a shortage of mowers here in Central Georgia. I see all the other brands and have yet to see one Toro in anyone's yard or trailer.

[@dalek2547]

My toro titan is like riding a cadillac. It floats.

[@mainstreetmower]

Love it!

[@MichaelCarter-ks4up]

I bought a this bad boy mower last Tuesday and the engine burnt up with 1.7 hours on it.☹️😣😤 So I put$700 difference on the Toro titan 60 in and love it 😀. Very comfortable and I have a bad☹️ back.

[@mainstreetmower]

Hi Michael, we're sorry to hear that. In our experience, that Toro should not disappoint you.

[@gwrace]

Did the engine have oil in it? No other reason it would burn up with only 1.7 hours on it.

[@Saveyourbs]

@@gwrace he’s lying. 🧢

[@bhaas0351]

i really want that toro, but chinese engine is making it difficult. They couldn't have found a US or even Japanese engine for this thing?

[@mainstreetmower]

Some Timecutters also come with a Kohler and Kawasaki option. Both of which are American Made.

[@kbennett1359]

Your comparison is not fair, foot assist w/ electric is available

[@mikesettlemyer5052]

well i think bot do his yard fine i do have conserns on bad boy suport

[@mainstreetmower]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Mike.