Bad Design Explained By Fall Of Man

[@bibleburner8426]

Forrest is a national treasure and should be celebrated as such.

[@Calx9]

I would have killed to have forests as a teacher. I could listen to that dude for hours.

[@Ruby_Eve]

I'll get started on the statue

[@paolagrando5079]

INTERnational treasure. Greetings from Italy 💜

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

Forrest is so knowledgeable and logical. Makes creationist look so silly.

[@MasamiPhoenix]

If he were any more of a national treasure Nicholas Cage would have stolen him

[@jayjonah83]

Everytime someone says that homosexuality is a choice i always ask them if they'd share the story of the moment they decided to be straight.

[@_Somsnosa_]

People love to assume everything is a choice, especially when it's something they don't understand or if it has to do with psychology and the mind. To them, if something isn't a choice then their whole world would fall apart and they'd have an existential crisis because they realise nothing is actually objective so "nothing means anything anymore" I can't count the number of times a Muslim or Christian has trotted out the same old tired fallacy "it must be a choice". I have no patience for bigots anymore, if you're gonna be ignorant and hateful don't come running to us crying "please care about MY rights". Christianity, Islam and most abrahamic traditions exist to spread hate and misinformation and they do a very good job of teaching kids to be hateful towards anyone different. Right wing Hinduism too and any other extreme anti human rights conservative groups

[@jayjonah83]

@@KentuckyBrad Just so we're clear you're still gay. Now You're just a part of a club that thinks you're an abomination that should be stoned to death. As a straight man, there was never a moment in which I chose to find women attractive, I just suddenly did. so at what point did you make the conscious choice to find other men attractive?

[@itsaboutthattime4425]

@@KentuckyBradthen you my friend might just be bi.

[@jayjonah83]

@@KentuckyBrad so you DECIDED to be gay and then you DECIDED to be straight? That doesn't happen like that. I don't care if you are gay or straight, if you are lying to yourself to be in an in crowd you are hurting yourself. Seek therapy friend. Best of luck

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Do you fulfil John 14:14, then, as well? And I mean like - really, really.@@KentuckyBrad

[@LGpi314]

“If god really wanted people to be free of wicked thoughts, he should have taken more care to invent a different species.”- Christopher Hitchens

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@jaflenbond7854 cluck cluck

[@wwlib5390]

@LGpi314 no, He knows what He was doing in all things. He told Cain, before Cain murdered his brother - sin is crouching at the door. YOU must overcome evil." It's a challenge for every human. Even the best of us fall into 'occasional' badness in our attitudes and behaviors - and rejection of God (which is sin). God forgives this sin for those who ask and follow Him - that is the gift Jesus offers through John 3 16 - the invitation to know God's love and promise to you.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@wwlib5390 more "my bible says a thing" why should anyone care what a book that is demonstratably wrong says?

[@thomaswigfield7623]

If god wanted us to believe in him, he’d exist. Linda Smith.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@wwlib5390*A **_Book Full of Errors Says a Thing_** Fallacy.* Derp!

[@joep6017]

I heard Otari's head explode through time and space when jmike told him if being gay is a choice then go be gay. He suddenly and violently realized he couldn't choose that.

[@BrokeTheSeal]

I wish Forrest would have been my teacher growing up. He breaks down complex concepts so well. Protect this man at all costs.

[@secular-world7316]

Whales have two pipes, one for eating and one for breathing. We have one, bad “design”

[@benjaminmadrigalperez9010]

Technically we also have two pipes. But they are mixed in the middle.

[@LGpi314]

That is a horrible design with almost no redundant components.

[@ahh_yes_mr_bax]

Horses breath and eat through separate tubes. A horse can choke on food and you wouldnt know it unless you noticed it not eating or drinking anymore. The horse can continue to live long enough to get help with the obstruction

[@Pumpherstonsmith]

Building an amusement park right next to sewage outlet, even worse design.

[@raysalmon6566]

we don't live under water

[@corringhamdepot4434]

So God apparently wrote His moral code "on our hearts", but we couldn't actually read them until we received the COA code in the apple. Makes total sense.

[@MrMattSax]

The most popular argument from amateur apologists seems to be “because I don’t understand science, god exists”. This dude was particularly honest about his desire to stay ignorant in order to retain his magical beliefs.

[@Conan_the_rastafarian]

How close would you say we humans are to understanding the truths of the universe...are we 50%? Are we less or more? Maybe there are people who recognize human abilities might have limits, and so there is no hostility in searching for things outside of known science. Maybe those people understand science more, than people claiming it can do all things like currently disprove God.

[@MrMattSax]

@@Conan_the_rastafarian there is no way to know what percentage although an educated guess would say we are quite a ways from complete knowledge. However, proposing gods or other supernatural explanations is just adding an unprovable panacea in the place of our ignorance. I believe it is better to admit to the things we don’t understand and then look for reasonable explanations for those things then to just slot in a magical explanation that has no usefulness.

[@Conan_the_rastafarian]

@@MrMattSax How does science know how to separate what is reasonable from what is magical as it looks for the percentage it knows nothing about.

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@Conan_the_rastafarian Forget the percentage when you doesn't even know how big is the pool you try to measure! That's just fallacious. Science doesn't care what it miss, it only cares what can be proven. There is a way to play with half-known stuff, called Hypotheses. Science will never claim something to be true, until it has been proven efficiently. There is no such thing magical, but 'unproven', or YET UNEXPLAINABLE.

[@MrMattSax]

@@Conan_the_rastafarian The scientific method relies on methodological naturalism, which is to say that the natural world can be explained by natural means. This is different than philosophical naturalism that states the natural world is all there is. Supernatural (magical) explanations should be considered possible when they are able to be demonstrated. Your argument from percentages just doesn't seem relevant. Yes, our knowledge is limited. Could the supernatural exist in the gaps of our knowledge? Yes. But to the skeptic, belief should be withheld until the evidence is sufficient. The scientific method relies on predictability, which is to say, when a theory can be shown to make reliable, testable predictions, then the support for that theory increases. The trouble with supernatural claims is that they are designed specifically to prevent predictability. If they did allow for testable predications, then they would likely be considered understandable. What seems more likely is that supernatural explanations are just placeholder ideas that allow us to feel we have explanations for things we don't understand. The trouble is they lack in sufficient evidence. They are also deeply without any pragmatic use, because they are untestable, unfalsifiable, have no predictive power. They can also explain any possible claim and thus are infinitely expandable. Why did my car not start? Because of the supernatural. Is that a useful explanation? Not to me. I would rather have someone who understands the workings of a car actually find out why then just say "it was magic". Scientific explanations allow for an increasing of knowledge, supernatural claims give us a bad answer and discourage us from finding actual, useful, reliable answers.

[@STHSilqueira]

I love Forest. The way he explains evolution is a fresh take compared to anything else I've ever seen. Even when my science teachers tried explaining how it works it felt more like Mr Garrison's explanation: "Fish and monkey had a dumb baby that was human". Forest is the embodiment of logic and reason.

[@ericwilliams1659]

Great episodes. "Go God Go I, II, and III"

[@ericwilliams1659]

@timothykeith1367 first off dentist have a high suicide rate. Also the country of Japan. What did Japan and dentist do against God?

[@ericwilliams1659]

@@timothykeith1367 also terrible strawman - the claim that "evolution "improves" thing" shows you still don't understand what evolution is.

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

​@@ericwilliams1659 ALL gods are imaginary. No people = No imagined gods. EVOLUTION FOR EASY UNDERSTANDING (PART 1) Evolution The Proof.. Evolution is proven by many different sciences all confirming it. Does it have a million year long video, showing a fish changing into a cat, as crazy creationists demand...? NO and it NEVER has claimed to.. It does not know every single step of evolution and it possibly NEVER will. This is the "god of the gaps" argument loved by religionists, as if it proves evolution wrong and their creator idea to be correct.. It DOESN'T? They used to think thunder was gods being angry and rain was angels tears etc. Science ACCIDENTALLY proved this religious belief to be UTTER nonsense. Religion HAD to admit their beliefs were wrong but it didn't want to, so what it did, was look for gaps in the knowledge of science and proclam.. There you are! Our god did that bit. It's NONSENSE. It has been constantly attacking evolution by this method and variations of it ever since. Evolution is OBVIOUS, even without the complex scientific evidence that proves and confirms it. Here is the undeniable proof. Seals, sea lions, walruses.... Common ancestor.. OBVIOUS. Tigers lions, leopards, cheetahs.... Common ancestor... OBVIOUS. Horses, zebras, donkeys. Common ancestor...... OBVIOUS. Monkeys, chimpanzees, gorillas, humans... Common ancestor.. OBVIOUS... Ahh say the creationists.... Where is one "kind" changing to another "kind"? Evolution says, well, that is dependent on various factors and it takes a very long time.. We don't have a 4 million year long video to show you step by step. But we have a great deal of other evidence that supports this conclusion, in genetics and DNA, geology and the fossil record etc. They all confirm each other.. Not good enough, says creationism.. We want something that shows one "kind" "evolving" into a completely different "kind." Well creationists. Look in in your own garden or local ponds. There you will SEE with your own eyes a legless creature that breathes water and has GILLS,! EVOLVE into a LAND living creature, with four LEGS and air breathing LUNGS! If that's not enough... You can find a ground dwelling creature, that has many legs and EVOLVING into a FLYING creature with WINGS! that eats completely DIFFERENT food from the ground dwelling creature it used to be.... This happens EVERYWHERE in the world billions of times every year. Now that's called UNDENIABLE evidence, that one "kind" can change to a completely different "kind" by entirely natural means.. In order to insert an imagined creator into this process these questions must be answered. (A) What is the imagined creator formed composed of? If it "exists" it must have substance. (B) How did the imagined creator create itself out of nothing? (C) Where did this imagined creator get the stuff it made everything else from? (D) How did it create the first thing? (Detailed step by step explanatio, as creationism demands of science). When creationists, can nail someone to a tree stick spears in them, have a medical doctor certify them as dead, then bring them back to life AND prove the causal link between them doing this and the forgiveness of other people's crimes/sins... THEN they might have a point. Till they CAN, a story in an old book written by people just WON'T do! EVOLUTION FOR EASY UNDERSTANDING (PART 2) This is how it works: Picture a long wall with photos hanging on it. The first picture is of YOU. The next picture is of your father (or, feel free to substitute mother/mothers) - who certainly resembles you, but not exactly. The next picture is of your father’s father (your grandfather) and then a picture of his father, and so on & so forth - picture after picture of successive fathers. Now, this is a VERY long wall stretching for miles & miles - covered with photos successive fathers and ALL of them ancestors of YOU. Walk down along the wall 20-30 generations and you’ll notice that the people pictured all still strongly resemble you generally (though maybe not so you’d necessarily recognize a “family resemblance”). And, while you’d certainly call them “human”, but you might notice that they’re typically a bit shorter than you and your father. But, obviously, they’re still pictures of “people”, and if you had a time machine and travelled back to meet that generation, you (as a modern human) would certainly be capable of successfully mating with others in your ancestor’s town or village. Now, keep walking down that wall of YOUR fathers for about 10,000 generations. You’ll notice that the pictures no longer resemble YOU as much as they used to. You’ll notice that the subjects are typically hairier than you and maybe a little hunched. If you travelled back to this time, you may not be able to successfully breed with members of your ancestor’s tribe or group. This circumstance WILL be true at some point along the wall. Keep going down the wall looking at successive pictures and you will reach a point where you would find yourself wanting to call the ancestors in the photos “apes”. They will not look exactly exactly like a modern apes (who, themselves, have evolved independently to fit their environments, even though photos of THEIR fathers might converge a cousin of the ancestor who’s photo you are currently looking at - and WILL eventually converge at some ancestor of YOURS). Now, here’s where I blow your mind. Keep going down and down along this wall of YOUR ancestors past several MILLION of YOUR fathers’ fathers … and you’ll be looking a photos of FISH!! At any given visible span along the wall in any direction, children will resemble their immediate parents and definitely be part of their species. But, over great distances (in time & generations), the minor differences in traits from parent to offspring will add up to such a degree where the some of YOUR ancestors are clearly across a species barrier from you, and eventually whole Genus, Family, Class, Phylum, etc … barriers get crossed. There is no place along the wall that you could rationally draw a line between two adjacent photos and claim that a new species started with THIS specific ancestor of yours. Each child is part of his parent’s species. You can ONLY tell that it happened gradually across a wide, WIDE band of your ancestors when you compare photos that are miles apart on the wall. So, there was no Adam & no Eve. No “first human”. No baby that was a “human

[@fredbohm4728]

@@timothykeith1367 That had to be the most ignorant comment I have read in a long time. Typical theist....ignorant, uneducated, and scientifically illiterate.

[@justincredible.]

I love Forrest's enthusiasm, it's very contagious.

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

That's due to your desperation for him to be correct about all the erroneous garbage he spews. NEVER has there been any new anatomy observed in any human, plant or animal, because evolution can't exist and will never exist.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

​@@wrencestondwanson3437tell me, why are you white and why are there brown people? EVOLUTION. You're an actual ape. You see proof of evolution every single day

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@wrencestondwanson3437 2nd sockpuppet of NEP. Nobody has invited to house parties, right?

[@nagranoth_]

So right from the bat, Otari's problems with evolution are that he doesn't understand a single thing about it. He actually thinks a dumb story that makes no sense whatsoever he found in a book explains why things aren't perfect, and thinks things not being perfect could possibly be a challenge to evolution... While no-one would ever even expect anything to be perfect to begin with, if his religion didn't make that idea up in the first place... this is just sad. He doesn't strike me as a person who _ever_ reads a book. Not even his religious one.

[@HumanismIsGarbage]

It's proven by the scientific method that organisms change. The idea that our ancestors were sea creatures is a faith-based belief and it's not proven by the scientific method. People living under atheistic humanist North Korea are 3 in shorter than their genetic counterpart in South Korea do to malnourishment. It didn't take hundreds of thousands of years it didn't take millions of years it took one generation. If you put the atheistic humanist North Koreans back with the South Koreans and they receive the same nourishment they will be indistinguishable from the south Koreans. If you believe that our ancestors were sea creatures because of environmental reasons like weather diet and natural selection. You would also have to believe in the future your descendants because of environmental reasons like weather diarrhea and natural selection can evolve into cockroaches dinosaurs or maybe even an apple tree.

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Evolution? No. There's not been any new anatomy/evolution/gain of complexity in any human, plant or animal for +/- 10,000 years. Yet, we observe TRUE NATURE every day (e.g. flower bloom, gravity, reproduction, sunshine). No atheist has a rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. So your only play is to say you don't see God. But then God replies that you have "no excuse," because you know he exists by what has been made. And he's correct. Because star dust, mud puddles, nothing nor moon dirt has the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY or maintain it. God is the only rational cause for the world and we call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD.” The Bible speaks to all these facts. The Book of Genesis explains it. God created time/space/matter/energy: "In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) & the earth (matter/energy/atoms/coal/oil/natural gas etc., etc.)." - Genesis 1:1 Then he cursed Adam & everything of Adam's authority when Adam sinned: “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned.” - Rom 5:12 "He existed before anything else, and he holds all creation together." - Colossians 1:17 These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!

[@PeterLGଈ]

Ontario has a very simple outlook. Good stuff? God did it. Bad stuff? God did it.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@HumanismIsGarbage 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@HumanismIsGarbage]

@@joshsheridan9511 Hi Joshi, I hope I didn't make you feel bad before. I want you to know even though you're what 63 years old it's fine if you're not ready to use words and you need to use emojis to express yourself. And don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

[@Micahswf]

I need to save this video Forrest’s chats are always so interesting to me such a smart guy

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!

[@JJMDude]

Amazed they kept going after he dodged Forrest's explanation, clearly just waiting for his turn to talk.

[@0Fyrebrand0]

I feel like somewhere in Georgia there is a religious school where the teacher assigned their students to call in to some atheist KZbin shows, and if they made it on air they would get an A+. This guy is so clued out, he doesn't really even want to listen to what Forrest has to say. He just wants to say his questions and leave.

[@bobmasters9871]

I never thought I'd say this but I have to speak up: Forrest you are incredibly demonstrably wrong, and it makes me really sad. At the end you said no one would want "this" (in reference to himself) I couldnt disagree more, as a bi man, you are utterly gorgeous and I will not accept any argument

[@budd2nd]

Lol 😂

[@robsimpson7319]

Hey Jimmy I didn't think you watched AE!?

[@louiscyfer6944]

are you no one?

[@bobmasters9871]

@@louiscyfer6944 Don't tell polyphemus

[@louiscyfer6944]

@@bobmasters9871 are you a faceless man? from the house of the dying?

[@MJ-th6cx]

So funny when Johnny offered the hall pass, "go be gay for the weekend...and go to the library with that person to pick up a book on evolutionary biology". Gives a whole new meaning to sex-ed!!

[@labspeciman7402]

Forrest is awesome!! Even when he gets frustrated he is fun to listen to..

[@sineaddwanson9294]

He has no answers. Evolution states that all 9 million different species of life came from an amoeba. That simply can't happen for many reasons. Entropy, for one. Another is the fact that there's no such thing as a gain of information or a gain of complexity or new anatomy or emergent properties. Sorry, but a mud puddle didn't come from nothing by nothing to do nothing and produce a first cell w/ not only the DNA blueprints of 9 million animals, but also the first cell w/ systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce. This is the idiocy that the atheist must believe in order for this world to be godless. The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. Answers can't come from a lie.

[@lout160]

WTF is this combo? Forest + JMike + Johnny! These three could do anything together and make it absolutely amazing.

[@banonKING]

Seriously. I almost feel sorry for any theist calling in.... almost.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

Otari's ass was kicked so logically, that he began to stutter. Giggity.

[@charanko2971]

Every single episode that I have watched with Forrest has blwn my mind. I learn something every time.

[@jb888888888]

Don't have to engage in homosexual behavior to "be gay." Just sit at home and be attracted to a person of the same sex.

[@seanluzdeluna8153]

Omg, true, lol.😅

[@Stevesautopartsify]

A total Masterclass by Forrest!! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@tonybennett4159]

The problem with encouraging Otari to go to his library to research the subject is this : depending on the area in which he lives how do we know that when he goes to his local venue and asks for books on evolution the librarian won't ask "From a Biblical or scientific perspective?", because you can be sure there would be many libraries that cater for both. Otari, therefore could be led even further down his rabbit hole. The mere act of reading is no guarantee of anything.

[@amtlpaul]

Ranting Neddy is at it again with his Never Ending Drivel.

[@williambeckett6336]

People like this caller are the doom of mankind if they ever reclaim societal control. Be on your guard. Because they want it back.

[@Slappy_McNasty_9090]

Its always ao wierd when people say that homosexuality is "unnatural" when its ao prevelant in nature.

[@Nymaz]

Better yet it's hilarious when they sit on an "unnatural" chair, wearing "unnatural" clothing, and typing on an "unnatural" computer connected to other computers using an "unnatural" Internet in order to scream about how "unnatural" = "bad".

[@wwlib5390]

Yes, dogs eat their own vomit too.

[@Slappy_McNasty_9090]

@@wwlib5390 most likely for natural reasons as well. Pups are raised and aurvive on the regurgitated food from their mothers since they're unable to hunt for themselves. Nothing unnatural about it, even if it seems disgusting to us. In fact many animals eat regurgitated food for a variety of reasons.

[@jb888888888]

@@wwlib5390Cows have a four chambered stomach. They eat grass and send it to their first stomach chamber. Later they regurgitate it and chew it, then swallow again to a second stomach chamber, etc. Weird to us, perfectly natural to a cow.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@wwlib5390 Was that supposed to be a rebuttal? Because it's totally irrelevant to the fact that homosexuality is as natural as breathing.

[@SNDN_LN]

I like how forrest had to do a double take and said "lots of giraffes are gay"

[@WhiskeyandDonuts]

Oh, Otari. You won't even try to educate yourself. What is he scared of?

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

*Claim of bad design:* exists *JMIKE:* is perfect *Claim of bad design:* I'll see myself out...

[@sabbur15]

I saw a meme about the Kenyan official that said male lions who were gay was because of watching tourists. The meme said mad respect to the gay couple that got it on in front of lions....

[@jhonvoyage2564]

XDDD

[@spinav8r]

How brave of Otari to call in to the program and then proceed to speak with a mouth full of marbles.

[@donniemorton162]

I've learned so much from these hosts thank you

[@dusty3913]

Kudos to Otari, whose first language is obviously not English, for being brave enough to call in.

[@jamielee7404]

You don't have to kiss his ass tho. His English sucks and he should have been learning English instead of worshipping stupid old fairy tales. And just so you know, complimenting people's language skills is incredibly patronizing, be it "Oh your English is so good" or "Oh you're so brave to speak (this language)".

[@wadehathawaymusic]

Can't wait to hear them report on their trial gay weekend.

[@PremIndi]

I'm not sure his first planet is Earth

[@csjrogerson2377]

@@PremIndi Somewhat unfair. I think he may have a speech impediment.

[@Swinefeld]

@@csjrogerson2377why would his god do that to him? Sounds like a design flaw.

[@aquaticape7542]

JPA: "Otari, are you going to attempt to learn anything to increase your knowledge?" Otari: "No, I'm going to stick with just calling in to quote my uninformed beliefs"

[@jinabrasser9439]

I think the fact that we can easily die while eating because our eating hole & breathing hole is basically the same hole is a very good example of how there’s no intelligent designer 🙃

[@jon_r_gilbert]

When someone tells you sexuality is a choice, ask them at what point they CHOSE to be heterosexual. They will look at you like a dog looks at you when you fart.

[@HumanismIsGarbage]

Interesting how the atheist humanist left is say everything is result of culture what do you section of course of homosexuality end transgenderism. We have proof that homosexuality is a choice there's no proof that somebody is born homosexual Practicing homosexuality is not a right Awright is something that's morally justified. If something does too much harm to society and not enough good it can't be morally justified. Therefore it's not a right What good does homosexuality do for society it does more harm then humans having sex with animals. The silent p in the LGBTP community likes to make the same argument we can't help it where born that way. You're not born that way you choose that way Of course anything that occurs in nature is considered natural. People eat human feces so I guess that's considered natural also. But the natural production is men and women not men and men. And not women and women.

[@jonclark8252]

@@HumanismIsGarbage Interesting list of claims you have there. What is the best/strongest evidence that you have that proves any of them?

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@HumanismIsGarbage 🤔🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@LGpi314]

"They will look at you like a dog looks at you when you fart." Or the dog will look at you when it farted. LMAO I needed a laugh. Thank you.

[@LGpi314]

@@HumanismIsGarbage "We have proof that homosexuality is a choice there's no proof that somebody is born homosexual" WHAT!?!?! I would say, that punctuation is important. You can learn about them in the 3rd grade. A child is born without religion, only after the birth child get indoctrinated. Just like you.

[@emptyhand777]

Otari 2600 was cutting edge when I was a kid.

[@t800fantasm2]

Even better there is apparently a new version of it coming out... Near the end of November... "Is Atari coming out with a new system? Atari and PLAION announce the Atari 2600+ console, launching with new and classic Atari games. Atari and PLAION have announced a brand new Atari console, which can play both classic Atari games as well as new games. The Atari 2600+ will launch worldwide on November 17th, 2023 and is now available for pre-order."

[@canderson5098]

His head is full of Asteroids.

[@bobmudge4836]

Humans were “designed” before the fall. Did god redesign us as punishment afterward? I’ve never heard that.

[@brucebaker810]

The YaBlewIt curse included physical change to make childbirth painful. But presumably also cerebral tweaks to make her subservient to and attracted by husband, etc.

[@amitkolhe4155]

Yo Forest. The last line was a killer..... LOL !

[@smochygrice465]

Or just a Naive God. And a fantastic Fri-yay Morning Axp crew, fans and theists ❤

[@emperor6]

Atari, learning doesn't hurt, I promise. You might even enjoy it!

[@markmuller7962]

I appreciate that you have 3 people in studio now as you add more expertise that certainly was an issue previously

[@HumanABC]

11:19 The benefits of homosexuality in reference to evolution is that one day our species would become interchangeable in sex organs and be able to continue to procreate. At least that was the answer I got from Bard (google AI) when I asked the question, "If the earth survived another billion years, what would humans look like?" His answers were kinda exciting! I was born waaay too soon. 😕

[@smochygrice465]

Good Saturday morning 🌞 to you all ❤ Peace ✌️

[@emptyhand777]

Lots of giraffes are gay, needs to be on t-shirts.

[@joseoliveira3691]

Forest is my hero

[@jerryp6001]

This was one of the best ones ive seen in a while. Way more misses than hits with AthExp the last 5 yearals. This was excellent..other than the caller who i couldn't undertand a single word

[@JosephTuckerXyphius]

"The reason why homosexuality doesn't lead to extinction is because" .... cut to scene from Jurassic park "Life.... uh.... finds a way" (Sorry, I couldn't help myself)

[@sparki9085]

Anybody know what otari's last bit was about? I just heard "degeneracy", but couldn't make anything else out

[@TheMcrico84]

im so glad i found this channel

[@scottmcadam4509]

That was a bit cruel telling Otari to try being gay for a weekend ! But it was definitely the correct response

[@lokisg3]

Friend: dude, want to go pub this weekend? Otari: nah, I'm going to be gay this weekend, maybe next week. Friend: oh, how about you crash at my place, we could have pizza night. Otari: sure, what a nice of you. Friend: yes! Otari: did you say something? Friend: nothing.

[@HumanismIsGarbage]

There's overwhelming proof that being homosexual is a choice. There's no physical evidence that says somebody is born gay I find it funny how the leftist atheist humanist argue everything is cultural with the exception of course of homosexuality and transgender ISM somehow that's not a choice it's not cultural even though the evidence tells us differently Interesting enough the silent p in LGBT also argue they were born child molesters sorry once again it's a choice. It's not surprising The Atheist humanist are sexualizing children they've trying to normalize for a long time.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@HumanismIsGarbage there's overwhelming proof that you are apot the ignorant clown, there is no evidence that you know what you're talking about.

[@wizardsuth]

It's cruel of Otari to consider people sinful for being who they are.

[@HumanismIsGarbage]

@@wizardsuth That's a similar argument that atheistic humanist child molesters make

[@aquaticape7542]

Liked the "giggity" interjection :0)

[@odinson6348]

So before the fall, Adam wasn't capable of choking on food?

[@brucebaker810]

God took away our alt-throat.

[@odinson6348]

@@brucebaker810 Unfortunately Christians will believe any nonsense that I can't tell if you're joking.

[@brucebaker810]

@@odinson6348 Joking. I do wonder sometimes, before hitting send, if the tongue is clearly in cheek. I think I need to upgrade to a more-emojii plan. Cheers.

[@brucebaker810]

@@odinson6348 As Jesus said, the Poes will always be among us.

[@odinson6348]

@@brucebaker810 True he did say that.

[@gillasall2242]

Beyond ANY doubt, the best ‘ giggardy’ EVER !!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@soistngcatstritchfavor]

It's funny that Forrest says that at the end cuz as a gay women more then a few straight women have told me that they wished they where gay so they didn't have to deal with men

[@mikean7074]

As far as I understand it, that is not an uncommon sentiment amongst straight women as many straight women have had a lot of lousy experiences with men. Strangely, you almost never hear straight men say they wish they were gay because of being fed up with lousy experiences with women. 🤔🤔

[@blackpilleddadli]

@@mikean7074 the conclusion is that dudes suck, generally

[@scottmcadam4509]

Two sides to every story Why do you think there are so many gay men ?

[@unit0033]

whats the definition of a dude@@blackpilleddadli

[@0Fyrebrand0]

@@mikean7074 I dunno, there are a lot of sexist misogynists out there who will gripe about women all day long. Although instead of wishing they were gay, they just try to control women by taking away their reproductive rights, and force them into being a homebound housewife with no education or career.

[@Phillip2356]

Did Otari ever call back after the weekend? 😂😂

[@FrelanceEQ]

I think my answer wouldn't have been specific examples of the evolutionary tale behind particular biological flaws. I think my answer would have been "evolution doesn't have to explain poor outcomes because evolution isn't done - it's an ongoing process." Faith has to justify the manifest imperfections because humans are, in an unconsidered fashion, considered an end product of a finite creation process. If you start off thinking "God made us" (past tense.), then that's *done*, we are what we were made to be, period end of story. Because of that, flaws have to be explained away with increasingly complex and off-the-wall stories. The theory of Evolution teaches that previous generations were one way in one situation, and future generations will be another way in another situation (if we make it), and how we are now is just somewhere along the way. Anything that's wrong with us just hasn't been wrong enough to end our species. Yet.

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Evolution? No. Not even a little bit. There's not been any new anatomy/evolution/gain of complexity in any human, plant or animal for +/- 10,000 years. Yet, we observe TRUE NATURE every day (e.g. flower bloom, gravity, reproduction, sunshine). You have a lot to learn.

[@funnibeanboi1363]

​@@wrencestondwanson3437Actually humans are evolving rapidly in comparison to other animals. People are literally being born without tonsils and appendixes. Some of us have an extra vein in our arms that usually fades away during utero. We even adapt quickly to cardiovascular trauma by literally growing new veins and arteries to delay heart attacks. That's micro evolution at work. Of course, you deny this because you just want to be oh so special. Give us all a break.

[@wizardsuth]

@@funnibeanboi1363 Wisdom teeth have become less common as well, and the ability of some Europeans to digest lactose as adults evolved about 7,000 years ago.

[@nealjroberts4050]

If young earth creationists understood evolution they would reject YEC completely

[@Gdwmartin]

"Otari what is your response to Forrest's statement about evolutionary biology" Nothing but dodge, he doesn't have a response and has no intention of going any farther.

[@Lupinemancer87]

If humans were indeed created, our creator did a shitty job. There are so many flaws that I could do better if I had the power to.

[@Gaston-Melchiori]

Jonny in this episode is the embodiment of the "ruidito de mate" meme (mate sound) XD

[@philiphintze]

Once more very interesting - you guys are just great! I once heard the following reason for the benefit of homosexuality: If I have a gay brother, my children have one more male relative to take care of them.

[@wizardsuth]

An extreme example of this is an ant colony, in which the larvae are cared for by their infertile siblings. If the colony had only queens and drones it would quickly collapse.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Yes, that's how non reproductive behaviours persist.

[@pavel9652]

Forrest was great, but JMike hit him at the end of the call like a depleted uranium antitank round ;)

[@joshsheridan9511]

Here's are 2 tips for all you who are going to argue against evolution. 1/ Read evolution for dummies then drop the apologist fantasy version 2/ actually engage the evidence for evolution

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Evolution? No. There's not been any new anatomy/evolution/gain of complexity in any human, plant or animal for +/- 10,000 years. Yet, we observe TRUE NATURE every day (e.g. flower bloom, gravity, reproduction, sunshine). No atheist has a rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. So your only play is to say you don't see God. But then God replies that you have "no excuse," because you know he exists by what has been made. And he's correct. Because star dust, mud puddles, nothing nor moon dirt has the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY or maintain it. God is the only rational cause for the world and we call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD.” The Bible speaks to all these facts. The Book of Genesis explains it. God created time/space/matter/energy: "In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) & the earth (matter/energy/atoms/coal/oil/natural gas etc., etc.)." - Genesis 1:1 Then he cursed Adam & everything of Adam's authority when Adam sinned: “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned.” - Rom 5:12 "He existed before anything else, and he holds all creation together." - Colossians 1:17

[@BluePhoenix_]

​@@wrencestondwanson3437copy and pasting your misinformed bs, doesn't help you

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Hey, look people, another illiterate who doesn't know basic biology and chemistry and live in constant ignorance and cognitive dissonance.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

​@@wrencestondwanson3437AGAIN: *HOW the energy in a log became CONCENTRATED into the wood, such that it can be released in burning.* The log didn't exist 6000 years ago, so God didn't magic it in there, *so HOW did it get in there??*

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@wrencestondwanson3437 thanks for proving my point never-ending alts. You're a shining example of how not to argue against evolution. Now bugger off, I'm only going to talk with adults.

[@UrbanGardeningDIY]

I love this trio.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Xtian: Evolution is wrong; small changes can never sum up to such a big change. Inches can never add up to a mile. It's just not possible! Same Xtian: god did magic to convert DIRT into ADAM and then performed medical surgery on Adam to extract a rib and then changed the chromosome of the rib via stem cell therapy and created EVE. As simple as that. Anything is possible in a magical world. LOL

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Magic? It's atheism that desperately clings to "magic" or the IMPOSIBLE: A MINDLESS, PURPOSELESS moist rock coming from NOTHING & ignoring entropy to produce a first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move & reproduce - NOT TO MENTION the DNA blueprints for 10 million DIFFERENT species that evolution comes OUT OF NOWHERE to diversify into the animals on the earth. Yes, it's atheism that desperately needs "magic." You actually believe that IMPOSSIBLE garbage and you can't afford to get this wrong. 100 trillion yrs from now, you'll still be in hell. Oh btw, the DIVINE POWER of God is mentioned throughout the Bible. TRY TO LEARN.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@wrencestondwanson3437 says the mindless theist who lacks self awareness and is incapable of having an adult discussion.

[@jane-marie3289]

11:47 - Gay horses too, l have stallions that won't go near a mare when she's in heat but they constantly try to "mate" with the geldings or each other. Seen this all my life, now I understand this is normal in many species.

[@eblake626]

Love learning about science but as an ex-born again Christian, these people never accept these common sense scientific explanations and instead ignore the shit out of them. You have to show them the flaws of their holy book first to get their minds to open up to other topics, but even then you're probably getting nowhere.

[@darinb.3273]

I read what you wrote twice to make sure I understood you stating that evolution is scientific. I would suggest you look into the definitions of science and the scientific method, because OBSERVATION IS REQUIRED in science. The word observare is Latin; Ob - towards Servare - attend to, look at Observare - to watch. The "claimed" millions of years disqualifies evolution as science or scientific. As one human who cares about another, don't keep repeating this nonsense because you are showing your ignorance. Science discovered vinegar and baking soda have a very gassy and bubbly reaction. It is measurable, repeatable and testable. The theory of evolution is none of those therefore not science via the scientific method. And one more nail in the theory of evolution's coffin is where and how vegetation is explained, it is interesting it isn't explained at all. The word theory is a supposition, a supposition is an uncertain belief. If the theory of evolution is proven, why is it still called a theory?

[@eblake626]

@@darinb.3273 You've drank too much Jesus kool-aid. First, in the scientific community, "theory" means fact whereas "hypothesis" means unproven idea. This is because science knows its knowledge will change or update as we get smarter so the theory can grow...unlike religion that retards its subjects permanently. Second, Richard Dawkins can teach you all about the evolutionary proof we have for vegetation if you're willing to step outside your cult for one of his videos. The bible teaches us that the world is flat in Isaiah 40:22 & 22:18 and that it has 4 corners in Ezekiel 7:2 & Revelation 7:1. Do you agree or acknowledge the bible is wrong?

[@eblake626]

@@darinb.3273 And another thing in regards to your comments about observation. We observe evolution in thousands of ways but since you mentioned the "million years" timeline, did you realize that when you look through a telescope into deep space, you are literally looking back in time billions of years? We know this is true because we know distance of far away galaxies and how fast light travels. We are literally zooming in and out millions of years with a touch of a button comparing stars and planets, so YES, we can observe cosmic evolution by looking into the past. When you look at the sun tomorrow, realize the light took 8 minutes to get to you. You are seeing it as it was...all the time.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@darinb.3273 bud real evolution has been observed in the lab and the field, via bacteria. But I get the sense you're talking about the apologist fantasy version.

[@darinb.3273]

@@joshsheridan9511 bud real evolution has been observed in the lab and the field, via bacteria. ME: Okay, what observation shows that the bacteria became anything other than bacteria? In other words what did the bacteria change into? But I get the sense you're talking about the apologist fantasy version. ME: Don't make assumptions just ask me 😆. Care to describe this "apologist fantasy version" in detail? What makes it a fantasy, bud?

[@deniss2623]

Yes, I can see that something's gone badly wrong with Forrest's original design.

[@jasons8479]

Even if homosexuality _were_ a choice, adults are allowed to love and/or have sex with whatever other consenting adult they wish. Who are you to dictate that for other people? Most people also realize that not every sex act has to produce offspring. Eight Billion people on this planet, and ever growing, is proof that plenty of offspring are indeed produced.

[@jhonvoyage2564]

By heterosexuals,... just sayin' ;)

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@jhonvoyage2564 not true, plenty of lesbians have had children. You know that it's the 21st century and artificial insemination is a thing right?

[@funnibeanboi1363]

​@@jhonvoyage2564Actually there are gay people reproducing as well. Some trans men still have uteruses, and artificial insimmination allows women to have babies without the naughties.

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@funnibeanboi1363 That's so right! Somehow I totally forgot about gay women too! My bad!

[@funnibeanboi1363]

@@jhonvoyage2564 It's ok. A lot of people seem to forget that 😊

[@Ares_V]

I believe I read somewhere that the first time we were able to record/observe octopus mating in the wild they were both male. Scientist are sure they are too smart to do it because they confused each other's sex, they weren't acting distressed or aggressive/defensive so it was "consensual" instead of one bullying another, and the smaller one was the top.

[@kevinmcgrath8310]

Also, why the fuck would a god put a tree in the garden that was forbidden anyway ,and with him being omniscient he knew before he planted the damn thing that they would eat from it ,he’s no less sadistic than the kid with a magnifying glass torturing ants . At least the kid is real though ,there is that .

[@LGpi314]

because if god exists then it is a genocidal narcissistic psychopathic maniac

[@LGpi314]

@@KentuckyBrad If god knows everything you will do then you don't have free will. You have free-will delusion. How do you know god's sex? Why is it always "HE"? I don't believe in sins so I'm not capable is sinning.

[@LGpi314]

@@KentuckyBrad No, you're wrong. I win. LMAO I don't believe in your god. If your god exists then it is a genocidal narcissistic psychopathic maniac who kills children.

[@LGpi314]

@@KentuckyBrad "God allows us to make our own decisions whether good or bad" No, it does not. "God is called the Father in the Bible" Your god in the bible also tells you how to beat up your slaves. Bible is a fictional poorly written book and it is full of crap. Do you think Adam was created from dirt and Eve from his rib? They then repopulated the earth. Isn't that magic? Did Adam have sex with his daughters? Is that what the bible is referencing? Do you believe earth is only 6000 years old? Do you believe it is flat as well? Do snakes talk?

[@LGpi314]

@@KentuckyBrad So you are just ok with slavery. Got it. Prove to me that your god exists. Where is the evidence? How do snakes talk without any vocal cords? " As the Bible says, Adam was created from the dirt and Eve was created from his rib." Why do you hate women so much? "Hebrew word mentioned in that verse is nachash which means shiny one" That wouldn't be lucifer, it would be a snake with its skin reflecting light. More delusions from a religious nitwit. "Bible doesn’t say how old the earth is" Yes, it does. Why do you lie? Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11.3 Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago). So a simple calculation is: 5 days + ~2,000 years + ~4,000 years 6,000 years A circle is a 2-dimensional figure. Learn geometry. Do you believe in the tooth fairy? Do you believe in Santa flying around? Do you believe in easter bunny nesting colored eggs? Do you believe in unicorns? Do you believe in Allah? They have the same probability as your specific god. I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

[@jaydisqus3353]

Is he saying Charlie Kirk is more evolved than the rest of us? Bigger heads, smaller faces...

[@LGpi314]

"Bigger heads, smaller faces..." no brain... I fixed it for you. LOL

[@seanluzdeluna8153]

​@@LGpi314true.

[@ZodiacBoi42]

Atari got so shaken up after that biology lesson 🤣

[@lorencalfe6446]

well yeah, our flaws extend into our very genes. Genes code for the biogenic chemicals which our cells use to build our bodies. (Contrary to common belief genes only instruct for biogenic compounds, lipids, proteins, amino acids; they are not architectural blueprints. That information is contained within the internal structure of the cell.) We are missing the information for 9 amino acids that we absolutely need to be human. ‘Biologically’ (if biology is defined by what biogenic chemicals our bodies can make via our genes) none of us are complete humans. Our genes are missing the instructions for nearly half of the amino acids which make us human. Genetically none of us is a complete biologically orthodox human being. We need to ingest those amino acids from the environment which is similar to taking medication. (Many medications consists of proteins our genes cannot produce so go figure) Genes code for biogenic chemicals. Our genes do not code for all the biogenic chemicals which make us human. Our genes are an incomplete ingredient list.

[@wadehathawaymusic]

I've not heard this explained quite this way. What a trip! Do you have a reference where I can get more info? ( preferably in Georgian; I'll take the reading with me on the getaway to Batumi that I've invited Otari on. ) Seriously though, fascinating info on genetics.

[@joshuas193]

With the apple and Adam and Eve, its a lot like telling a toddler not to do something. They don't know any better and they are going to do the wrong thing. You don't punish them horrifically and all their descendants for all time for it.

[@swedendive]

Why god believers always sound like they never been in school

[@aquaticape7542]

Forrest expounding how many animals are gay reminded me of Mo explaining to Homer how the whole steel industry is gay these days :0)

[@bodricpriest8816]

God wrote his code on our hearts, that's why we all agree with what morality is and how society should function and haven't changed our minds at all....and Psychopaths don't exist... and this is metaphorical writing so you can't actually find it, since it's really in the brain, except don't actually look as then you'll see how the brain works when you ask about either morality or god and that's... oh, just trust me bro it all makes sense because... LOOK IT'S A TREE!!!!!

[@amtlpaul]

The troll Dandruff posted anither silly troll comment. But I consider it an opportunity to cobsider the difference between explanation and obfuscation. Trolls conmonly use the latter in order to lead people on a merry chase through futility, and Dandruff is an exponent of this technique. How do we tell the difference between a sincere effort to explain and an attemot to confuse the issue, move the goalposts, etc?

[@nealjroberts4050]

Well, Simple and concise phrases Use of definitions clearly laid out Analogies that fit

[@LoyalMatter]

I'm evolutionarily special!? I was born without wisdom teeth. Also don't have two sets of a couple of teeth on my bottom jaw.

[@emptyhand777]

Three brothers, oldest, no wisdom teeth. Middle, wisdom teeth pulled. Youngest, me, wisdom teeth grew in without issues. I still have them. I figure the oldest is further evolved, middle is just right, and I'm trailing behind the evolutionary scale.

[@grantwing4942]

Mutations

[@wyldink1]

You're lucky. I was born with two sets of wisdom teeth. I've had all but the bottom right removed so far, but according to my dentist, the possibility of the second set coming through isn't very high, since there's bone between the second set and the socket. Still, was a fun surprise on my x-rays.

[@nealjroberts4050]

I have no canines. Think it's fairly obvious I'm an evolved anti-vampire 😂

[@merbst]

I aint got no damn teeth. I thank my love of sugary sodas & alcoholic beverages for giving my oral surgeons licence to extract all 32 of my worthless dentitions!

[@louseveryann2181]

Hey, "gods-believers", if we're so incredibly "intelligently designed", why are there 5 blood types? Ease of interchangeability?.....

[@LGpi314]

There are lots of things that make no sense from "intelligently designed" perspective if you think of it as an engineer. For example, there is not much redundancy of organs in our bodies.

[@jhonvoyage2564]

Nipples on males? What's the purpose of that exactly?

[@nealjroberts4050]

​@@KentuckyBrad Could _you_ think of a better design?

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@KentuckyBrad If god 'designed' us, what is the purpose of the nipples on males? Why he couldn't design that nipples get grown later then? He is omnipotent, he could do whatever he wants. What's the purpose of the nipples on males?

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@KentuckyBrad You didn't answer my question. You said you explained something that have nothing to prove that there is a god that designed anything, but you forget to address my initial question. So I ask AGAIN! What's the purpose of the nipples on males?

[@DrMikeE100]

Otari is clearly not interested in learning - only in 'schooling the atheists' on his buy-bull bull.

[@dommidavros2211]

Ok so many problems! Let's start by correcting the eyes! How do we get rid of the black spots???

[@johnsperry9494]

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Before they ate the fruit, they did not know good and evil, right or wrong. So, up until they took the first bite, they did not have a concept of wrong, so they did not know that it was wrong to disobey God. God punished them, and all future generations, for doing something they had no reason to know was wrong. God is a total ass-h*le. Plus, that totally negates the idea of original sin, so what is Jesus for? Another thing, why would they suddenly become “aware of their nakedness,” as if suddenly they think it is wrong? If I was God, I would punish them for being ashamed of the beautiful bodies that He created for them. Adam and Eve’s only sin was the invention of body shame. Gen 2:17 God tells the first lie. Gen 3:4 Serpent tells the first truth.

[@SevenPr1me]

Thank you! I've noticed the exact thing to but Christians are bad at hearing an actual analysis of their scripture. They're used to a pastor explaining something else

[@vladikrafft8465]

Forrest, i love your last answer!

[@iamthesully]

Not kidding, I could only catch every tenth or so word the caller said. I could only glean the nature of the question from the hosts' replies, which, while always good, leaves me a feeling a little stumped hearing only half of the call

[@capthavic]

Might be because its not their first language, but yeah it was like he had a mouthful of cotton when speaking.

[@phillipmoore9012]

That was a fun response. Homosexuality is a choice so Otari go be gay for a weekend.

[@Ponera-Sama]

The Bible says exactly what the consequences of "the fall" were. There wasn't a word about wisdom teeth or having a blind spot about it.

[@nettlarry]

After god created this perfectly balanced out universe, he created humans with all these flaws?

[@jhonvoyage2564]

And males with nipples...

[@LGpi314]

I guess he was doing it on Sunday. LMAO

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@KentuckyBrad Thank you, but I was talking about how god intelligently "designed" us... I was sarcastic, that he forget to erase nipples from the blueprint of males. ;)

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@KentuckyBrad So if something just grow, then it wasn't designed. Thank you, you just debunked that we are designed.

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@KentuckyBrad So god created Adam first, with nipples, to have sex with himself? :D

[@bryck7853]

FORREST: Finally! Someone articulated the thing that bothered me since age 8, that they couldn't obey god because they didn't know that disobedience was wrong. They were 'legally insane', unable to tell between right and wrong.

[@sineaddwanson9294]

Yeah, right. A mud puddle can give you morality & has the means to give it. Or was that star dust?

[@jhonvoyage2564]

@@sineaddwanson9294 Has anyone ever considered you seriously in real life? Is that your problem? :)

[@amtlpaul]

​@@sineaddwanson9294Angel dust, in your case.

[@ajclements4627]

@@sineaddwanson9294 What’s your fascination with mud puddles and space dust lately? You finally stop obsessing over moist rocks?

[@amtlpaul]

The troll Dandruff posted a very silly comment which he will no doubt shortly delete, but it does raise an interesting question: why would a perfect deity want anything from humans? Why would a God value humans working for Them, for example? Dandruff's answers were highly inadequate because rhey failed to take into account the claim that God is omnipotent and perfect in every way. A claim that also runs into trouble when it comes to alleged intelligent design which, if the designer were a perfect deity, would have to be perfect design.

[@amtlpaul]

That's quite a claim, ​ Dandruff. Got any evidence to support it?

[@amtlpaul]

So, no evidence. Claim dismissed. Got anything else for us, Dandruff?

[@amtlpaul]

​@@Dan-dy3ftAllegedly that is your opinion- duly noted. People can read the OP for themselves and then assess the claim you just made about it accordingly.

[@amtlpaul]

​@@Dan-dy3ft, again, people can compare what I actually said to your misrepresentation of it, at least until you delete your comments on this thread.

[@t800fantasm2]

"why would a perfect deity want anything from humans? " Maybe we are a food crop... Past extinctions, the flood, etc, were simply harvests... lol

[@artdadamo3501]

I would say if you accept the Biblical account, then it's the opposite: the fall of man is explained by bad design!

[@danielzunigagutierrez6300]

Homosexual benefits: overpopulation control.😊

[@t800fantasm2]

Also, less competition for the women at the pub... lol

[@benjaminmadrigalperez9010]

No actually. That's why it exists. Among other things. The more "males" babies a mother have the more likely it's for the youngest to be gay. And the infamous "they are making the frogs gay" stuff exists because when some frogs have an over popilation of males or females some of them Will tranision to the other sex. Nature is Funky like that.

[@nealjroberts4050]

Actually it's more that the immediate benefit is increased childcare for their heterosexual relatives. Essentially it makes a better K strategy than r (sort of quality over quantity)

[@wunnell]

I haven't watched the video yet but I wanted to address the subject based on the title. Even if we do live in a fallen world, that fall occurred exactly as their god dictated it would. Anything bad about the world is still the result of their god's choices and their god's implementation. Bad design is still god's design. is it better that that was intentional rather than due to incompetence?

[@tabub.xavier7142]

.....Did this caller call right after dental surgery or something?

[@Bearssuperfan]

Nitpick on your interpretation of Genesis: Adam and Eve were always going to die physically, but the death that god tells them they will have is their immortal death. They sinned by eating the fruit, so now they cannot enter heaven and thus will spiritually die. I’m atheist now but this was something I understood even back when I wasn’t.

[@Leith_Crowther]

That’s not really a common enough interpretation to make it the default one.

[@happilydivorced3235]

His final comment of straight women choosing men😂😂😂. I would’ve liked to hear more of his reasoning on that.

[@dimitrioskalfakis]

very interesting choice: science and reason or ancient magic ? another one at large.

[@jbibro]

“Go be gay for a weekend. Give it a try.” - Johnny P Angel