Bad UK Driving Vol 352, Humble Pie Anyone ?

[@mannie7028]

Stories from the cab is an excellent idea!

[@737baron]

I agree

[@matthewtaylor464]

100% agreed

[@TaylorWatts17]

I agree ☝🏻

[@MuzMUX]

tales from the cab, a yes from me

[@MrPhotocraft]

Hi Tony. i'm old school, survived more than fifty years of driving. I find your channel both entertaining and educational. CHEERS MATE.

[@JohnFarrell-bc8gt]

50 years driving and you call that educational?

[@MrPhotocraft]

@@JohnFarrell-bc8gt Hi John. I think it's obvious by the standard of driving, there are some drivers need to be educated on how to do it the right way.

[@derekstocker6661]

Love the comment at 3:18 about the "job of the police to make sure we are safe". All went out the window years ago, that is why we have so much crime and the government are behind it with stuff like this and soft sentences all round! Well done, another brilliant video and yes, let us have the in cab moments too!

[@JackOfski]

As a recently retired ex long haul lorry driver (UK and Europe) it's amazing that after a very short time of doing the job you soon learn which car is going to do what just by the make of the vehicle, but the stupidity is still mainly in the UK.

[@TheSteeley62]

I completely agree with the visual you shown explaining the hierarchy of the road, it is based on a scientific principle using the average number of brain cells, low to high, left to right. I don’t understand how anyone with common sense can argue with it.! Great work buddy.

[@Helen-12]

I used to work in a minicab office in Croydon years ago, so no suprise to hear how passengers are still very clever at not telling you exactly the who and what is going into a cab they try all the tricks in the book so understand your frustration and worry on that journey.

[@1919charlton]

Love the idea ‘stories from the cab’ more please. I’m a driving instructor in South Wales and come across all you do everyday it’s universal now even my pupils have nicked your catch Frazer “always an Audi”. Keep the contract coming I’ve been unable to watch for a few months but am now binge watching

[@laurainebelsey2498]

Noticed all them haters didn't mention. Cyclist do think they are high up the ladder, that's why most of them run red lights. When highway code states they should stop. Don't see them getting stopped or fined do we. I'm with you on this one Tony.

[@AlmostLastJedi]

Exactly this, you’re meant to give them 1.5 meters but they filter at 1.5ft. They run red lights and mount pavements meant for pedestrians. They are the most entitled people on the road, and they have the audacity to moan about everybody else like Karren’s.

[@jessgibson4790]

Car by the A23 turn was a Citroen Traction Avant, the first front wheel drive car. First produced 1934.

[@Graham_Langley]

First mass-produced front wheel drive car, not the first.

[@trevorberridge6079]

@@jessgibson4790 Last made in 1957.

[@DougieLawson]

At 27:25 that's a very nice Slough-built RHD Citroën Traction Avant. The LHD ones from Paris were less well fitted than the British ones. My purple one (from South Africa) is still in the garage waiting for my neighbour to repair the fuel pump for me. It'll soon be back on the road.

[@derekstocker6661]

Well done, not seen one of these for decades!

[@allanmanley6340]

Citroen was a Dutch guy who invented the helical gear (thus the logo). Later moved to France and placed the "umlaut" on the "E". Citroen in Dutch means "lemon"........

[@AmberDawnStewart]

would love to hear more stories from the cab 👍

[@joobaloo7108]

Great addition and scary story. Keep the tales from the cab the good ones and the bad. Lets rile up them haters and just ignore em the plebs!

[@alunrundle162]

Agree with you on the second clip. Also annoyed by the lorry parked in a bus stop!

[@g6znw]

As a former lorry/truck driver, I too have hundreds of "story's from the cab" I could tell you. I don't mind them, but I am only one person. Sadly, there were no dashcams in my day.

[@JackOfski]

Same, used to drive both side of the water and when coming back to the UK you really see how bad the driving over here really is.

[@davemac1648]

Stories from the cab.. a great addition 👍

[@Judith-c6r]

Many do not know the towing laws and restrictions. Likewise many van drivers are unaware of the restrictions on single carriageway and dual carriageway.

[@michellesimpson4364]

10:03 unbelievable to hide a baby. I thought you were gonna say it was in a bag. Thank god it wasn’t

[@mikehipperson]

Could have been worse, she could have just dropped it!

[@grahamnutt8958]

Having briefly scanned other comments I will assume that all 3 ⛽head moments have been correctly identified. ⛽️head 2 definitely reminds me of a car used in a 🎥 The California Kid - Martin Sheen if memory serves - and was up against the Sheriff driving a Plymouth Fury 58 - similar to "Christine"; also was used to cause a few ☠️☠️☠️. Both movies are worth watching. Tales from the Cab are very welcome and interesting. As for the rest...... too many clips for comment without a 15000 word dissertation. The "bag of wet 💩" phrase was missed. Glad to hear it back in use once more. Cheers for the 🤣🤣🤣 Tony.

[@aj.roseby4695]

Like the stories from the cab keep it in very entertaining.🙂

[@michellesimpson4364]

Stories from the cab is a great idea.

[@dereksmith9876]

Stories From The Cab - Brilliant idea. Keep them comming.

[@samdoyle1749]

Love stories from the cab!....Best channel on KZbin by a country mile!

[@thelondondashcam]

Thank you 👍

[@rwadley15]

16:05 Stories from the Cab is just what we want on this channel. Yes please!

[@hollyAE]

Stories from the cab I'd love to hear more.

[@nicholasroberts6954]

The car running on the space-saver rim in a previous vid was fun. Perhaps you could do, say once a month, a compilation on roadside car breakdowns/accidents and speculate as to possible causes.

[@adamgraham9787]

Your videos are so good and always honest about driving properly 👍🏻

[@stevieb4372]

I, back in the day was a Mini-Cab driver and I could write a book on events that I was involved in. My point is I think it would be a great idea to share your experiences and look forward to more. Enjoy your Vlog the most, love the banter!

[@andreashaynes3346]

Thank you for an entertaining video Tony. “Stories from the cab” is a great idea, I enjoyed this one but was horrified at the same time. How could this Polish family put their baby and everyone else, including you, at risk, is beyond me!!! Ignore the detractors; if these people don’t like what they see or hear; move on, grow a pair of balls and get a life!!!!! We enjoy your posts Tony. That’s my rant out the way!!!!! Keep up the good fight Tony 👍😀👍😀👍

[@jamestaylor6760]

Hi Tony! Hope you’re well. I’ll start by saying cab stories is a great idea 😊. Today I was on a double decker bus on a fairly busy main road in Paignton, Devon, where a car just pulled out from a side road RIGHT IN FRONT of the bus. I couldn’t see if the driver was on their phone or anything because I was sat upstairs. It was incredibly dangerous because of course buses cannot stop on a pinhead particularly double decker buses. I take my hat off to the bus driver for reacting so calmly and quickly. He did hit the brakes of course but he didn’t use the horn or shout anything. He might have lit this driver up though or at least flashed them, but again being upstairs I didn’t see.

[@stuartsaunders-nb6ve]

OK I see your point on the car tax but I do have insurance on my bike which I'm covered more than some cars on the road as a cyclists I do agree that if your on road you should have insurance. The other thing is bikes don't weigh that much me and bike are under 90kg which is not going damaged the road

[@Flopsy86]

I liked the Stories from the cab segment also, was an interesting story and very indicative about how little individuals care about others as long as they're alright.

[@Holycurative9610]

If I think you're wrong Tony then I'll say in the comments without resorting to the "misinformation" label or slagging you off. I will say though that the vast majority of the time I have no complaints at all with your POV or commentary but you will always have the people who deliberately don't listen to what you say and who then write their own narrative based on what they wanted to hear. Haters are always gonna hate fella and if you have a YT channel I think you develop a very thick skin over time, you shouldn't worry too much though as most people here are pretty agreeable folks who are willing to listen and comment. The fact that you have over 12k subs shows you're doing something right so keep putting out the videos and ignore the comment clowns😁😍😁😍😉

[@suziforester]

Here Here and well said ❤

[@TheWeepingDalek]

That van driver would have no idea that bike is even there.

[@ae5668]

the bike rider has no idea whats coming the other way either

[@tonydeeth9469]

34 FORD 3 window coupe built as a hi boy coupe very nice

[@ianyates7742]

I believe it’s a model Y, my cousin has built his own along with several Luther custom hot rods

[@alunrundle162]

For pie, you seem to be offering them tarte au citro(e)n. Don't give them the good stuff, they'll keep coming!

[@thelondondashcam]

😂😂

[@davehooper4602]

Stories from the cab is very interesting. I for one would like more please.

[@arunphillips6977]

Stories from the cab is an excellent idea Tony...please keep them coming.

[@allenburdett4923]

Stories from the cab is a great idea, looking forward to hearing some

[@LordFawlty]

Just don't understand why people “hate watch”. Great idea stories from the cab.

[@johncranna9427]

Because LDC constantly "hate comments" about other drivers, pedestrians and cyclists in his videos. The people that LDC labels as haters are simply people who don't agree with his attitude or driving manner especially around pedestrians and his constant breaking of the Highway Code rules. He knew he was breaking HC rule 112 with the Merc cutting in front of him yet he still did it!!

[@johncranna9427]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn exactly! Brother in arms & legs!!

[@suziforester]

Ha ha ha....you two are so predictable😂😂😂

[@scientic]

New pet peeve of mine is people turning left just before turning right. I understand if you're a huge lorry or bus, but your little ford fiesta doesn't need any extra space to make a right turn.

[@wombateer1]

Hi, Another great clip how would like to be a passenger to here all your bad swearing it sure makes me smile have a great day and thanks again

[@DriveSmartDash]

Somehow I don't think Tony would swear in front of his passengers, I'm sure he saves it until he's in the car on his own or when he voices over/edits the clips for our entertainment 😂👍

[@robinkey4499]

Wheelchairs have no chance to get past that car we don't give sh##t about the disabled. You are right in what you say most people don't give a sh##t

[@michaelgurd7477]

Motonormativity. So much car related infrastructure is sited on and obstructing pedestrian spaces. Most people can't see it. The latest thing is EV chargers.

[@ukwhitewitch]

I'd definitely enjoy "stories from the cab" 😂

[@lucyyy36732]

Would be great to hear more stories from the cab, I bet you’ve got some tales! 🤣x

[@DavidNewmanDr]

Normally on St Giles in Oxford, there are hordes of tourist crossing that wide road, not looking. You were lucky to find it so empty. Even the Oxford Pedestrians Association has come up with a plan to change that road to have separate fully marked lanes for pedestrians, cyclists and cars with a wide area for people to sit on the other side. As it is a short wide stretch in between 3 narrower roads, it isn't worth changing the speed limit for that bit of road. As for the road past the hospital to Marston, that is ridiculous. It is a recent layout with wider bicycle lanes, so they don't need to put beware of cycle signs in the centre. That only makes sense in places like Cowley Road which doesn't have cycle lanes. Also more people travel to work in Oxford by walking or cycling than take a car [Census 2021], so the street design tries to protect the more vulnerable majority from the car driving minority. That is all that the hierarchy means - how vulnerable are different road users from the bad driving shown your videos. Paying tax does not give anyone the right to put others at risk, no matter how much self entitlement car wax they use.

[@xo2quilt]

Too bad so many of the vulnerable road users can't be bothered with obeying the traffic lights and other rules of the road. They make themselves more vulnerable!

[@michaelgurd7477]

Thank you for your concise explanation. It's a pity it's so far down the list of comments.

[@michaelgurd7477]

@@xo2quiltIt is wrong but cyclists who run reds are really only putting their own safety at risk, car drivers who do it are putting other peoples lives at risk.

[@Cheyenne07]

Yes, I'd love to hear more stories from the cab. Another great video Tony.

[@dsmale7067]

Your cab storey was great, but for the family your car was an upgrade from the normal moped they all use at home.

[@heatherhoward2513]

That is not a nice thing to say, perhaps they were coming to stay and that was their whole life in the luggage.

[@moretimeneeded56]

I think you are harsh on the bus driver. A big vehicle and a fairly narrow road so he has to take up most of the road. He was there first, up to you to plan airhead and hold back. Drive defensively.

[@markphillips2076]

I used to live 10 miles outside of Oxford. I used to go to Milton Keynes twice as far away for shopping just because Oxford hates the car so much. That 20mph limit is to protect the clueless tourists who look the wrong way for cars before crossing.

[@punzel]

The black classic car at about 27 minutes into the video is a 1952 Citroen Light 15 of which 760,000 were produced :)

[@BarryJacobs-tg1ke]

Petrol head moments - first one on the trailer is a Frazer Nash and the third, by the M3 turn off, is a Citroen Traction Avant. (my wife's favourite car) - I need a bigger anorak. BMW towing the FN on the trailer is allowed in the outside lane because it is a BMW. It's also probably out there as it wants the next junction. German car highway code is simple. Right lane to turn left or exit a motorway, left lane to turn right. Simples. That's why the other BMWs carved you up - they were going left.

[@johnfh]

Thanks for the Frazer-Nash recognition, I feel I should have known that! I owned two L15s back in 1968-69.

[@Anthony-wx6ld]

I believe the low height of indicators is to stop people lowering their cars … Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations has something about minimum height from the ground

[@johnfh]

The perol-head moment at 16:58 is a 1934 Ford V8, chopped top etc. And at 27:00 that's a Citroen Light 15, probably assembled in Slough, 1949-53? Yes, I'd love to have some passenger tales from you. Greetings from Stockholm.

[@michaelhowse8893]

Yes definitely a Citroen Light 15. My late father owned one.

[@garybroom8418]

Good stuff, love the down to earth commentary. Cab chat good!

[@TheSpokesman69]

Cab stories are a great idea so people can see who and what you have to deal with on a daily 👍🏽

[@figaro501]

Yes please Tony. Stories from the cab would be great.

[@bigjoeangel]

Interesting and agravating story from the cab. More stories would be good.

[@raynordefoubert9753]

Great idea Tony...more stories for the cab please 🚖

[@ForkCandle123]

I hope that Polish family tipped you. Irrelevant that they were Polish, but they ought to have booked a big taxi. Where did the baby come from? Oh, under her coat - wow. You're lucky she didn't give birth to another baby during the trip.

[@lorrainefairley6779]

Yes story's from the cab brilliant idea nobody else does that ,love the patter ,the James bond theme tune is so funny that made me laugh outloud

[@mickotflag]

stories from the cab great idea as for the indicators alot of new cars now they are so tiny you can hardly see them

[@MadSniper553]

love the stories from the cab, keep doing it 😁love the vids mate keep it up

[@colinjohnson6824]

I am a pedestrian, I use to be a cyclist, I have also been a motorist since 1963 do you think I may have paid enough in taxes to justify being on foot at times, I hear and read of complaints from motorists who forget that most pedestrians are also motorists

[@keithbrowes1974]

@@colinjohnson6824 we all pay for the roads via general taxation, so regardless whether vee drive or not we are all entitled to use the infrastructure.

[@paulqueripel3493]

More so the other way, most motorists are also pedestrians at some point during the week.

[@debbiewilson6915]

Love your videos. I live in Cumbria and thankfully not too many arrogant motorists but we do have a lot of little roads where they are just about 2 cars wide and a lot of cyclists who decide they need to ride four abreast giving no room to overtake and not much room for cars coming towards them. They also seem to always give people dirty looks if they try and pass them.

[@lmusima3275]

The part about the hidden baby 👶 got me 😂😂😂😂

[@paulanderson4894]

Stories from the cab is a bonza idea mate maybe at the same time as doing a live drive and we'll call it a 2 4 1 ... Love the videos and the commentary keep it coming 👌 👍

[@susanwassall361]

The cyclists in Oxford also do what cyclists do in London & go through red lights, as my hubby found out the last time he was there & was crossing a road at a pedestrian crossing. He was nearly taken out by a cyclist & the little ****** swore at my Hubby as if to say how dare you cross in front of me!!!

[@johnrudman5084]

Just seen your clip on going through the Banbury Rd in oxford it is ridiculous with the 20mph some places yes need it but there is so many in Oxfordshire and also the cycle lanes are ridiculous in places sadly got to drive in oxford most days

[@christophersibley3023]

Keep it coming first class sir

[@jcev39]

11:27 That's a Frazer Nash - probably chain drive too! 16:30 I think is a Ford Model A hotrod - almost certainly on the way to the HayRiders meet held at the National Shooting Centre at Bisley

[@cougar02000]

Go for it, stories from the cab is a brilliant idea.

[@moretimeneeded56]

Regarding your Hierarchy of Road Users you could sub divide the pedestrians to put runners at the top. I’m referring to the ones that run towards you in the road. They seem oblivious to what’s behind them and whether you can get round them and aim straight at you. They are not in the Olympics or organised marathon so just stop running and contribute to their own safety.

[@RobertFrohikezH]

Another great video Tony. I think Tales from the Cab is a great idea. Maybe you could use the theme from Tales of the Unexpected! 👍

[@michaelwaite6725]

Stories from the cab good idea , we can all relate to stories dealing with the general public

[@noviceangler8084]

The Highway Code states the horn is to be used to announce yourself as a danger to other road users. You used it correctly at 26.04 .

[@DriveSmartDash]

Tales from the cab - it's a yes from me!! 😊👍 That was a really sneaky thing to do though, can't believe they tried to hide their baby!! I hope you let that family know how much danger they put everyone in (including your livelihood) 😢

[@iallso1]

1 minute in, its good to see that there are now specially marked parking spaces for scaffolding trucks.

[@tonyantolino1451]

Love your stories. Please keep them coming 🇬🇧👍👍

[@stephencope7178]

At 1:00 the road is even freshly marked...so no excuses...just stupidity!!

[@roberthw8086]

Can't say I found the commenting viewers written remarks that offensive - a difference of opinion surely.

[@thelondondashcam]

Now go back about 80 videos and look at the comment section the same five or six names keep coming up every single video, none of them have a good word to say, I get roughly 400 comments a video with maybe 10 disagreeing with me but you can bet it's always them 6 in that 10. That's what I call haters and it's not healthy either.

[@smilerbob]

⁠@thelondondashcam I went back to #349 where one of the usual suspects agreed with you and got a YT ❤️ We don’t hate you (well, I can say I don’t hate you), we just don’t always agree with what you do sometimes and will let you know when we don’t agree

[@gerhard6105]

23:00, as a Dutch and used to many cyclists, i think the road maintenance did forget ( on purpose?) to take the bike drawings from the tarmac. Again, this is the best way to construct a bicycle path: |🚶||🚲|🌾| 🅿️ 🚗|🌾🌳🌾| 🚗 🅿️|🌾|🚲||🚶|🏠

[@louisdawes2337]

Road tax is called vehicle excise duty now, and its based on carbon emissions. Stupid to make bikes pay it when you think about it.

[@Sarah-bq7zo]

Tales from the cab 👍especially if they are as crazy as the hidden baby. As for your complainers it’s a case of if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say it at all. Don’t understand wanting to watch something just to not enjoy, comment and complain. With all that is going on in the UK at the moment there is no harm in being more tolerant and kind. Keep up the good work 😊

[@petergilderdale3562]

Stories from the cab in my opinion is a great idea.

[@Tailspin80]

That whole section on funding vs hierarchy is nonsense. Hierarchy is about road safety not money. I don’t care if you personally pay 100% of every road in the U.K., it still wouldn’t entitle you to run people over. So please don’t conflate safety with money. Incidentally the funding, maintenance costs, economic and social benefits, environmental costs etc. is far more complicated than you describe and the VED barely scratches the surface in funding it. Also, although councils are responsible for maintaining the roads they get the vast majority of their money from central government not council tax.

[@psychoal1967]

Maximum towing speed is supposed to be 60mph, how many do you see obeying that rule, not just using the outside lane?

[@charliejackman2953]

And then see them 50 miles up the road broken down with a wheel missing off the trailer.

[@SWBiker1957]

I ride a motorbike a lot of the time and would never drive that near to the vehicle in front. Tales from the cab....Yes please. 20:14 might be the oxford version of the M25 (3 Lanes) without the traffic 22:50 British workforce must have had a couple of ciders the night before doing the cycle signs 26:00 BMW driver knows what damn exit he needs but they have to stay in the faaaaasssssssssssssttt lane until the very end. 27:00 Thats and old Citroen 29:00 Boy racer on a motorbike !!

[@Greatballsoffire61]

Hi Tony, The blue car facing traffic,that you thought was parked in a layby,is in fact parked in the lane for turning left,very dangerous.

[@johncranna9427]

@@Greatballsoffire61 could have been broken down. You don't know. Don't jump to conclusions.

[@peterkeleher]

i liked stories from the cab; the cheek of those people - unbelievable!

[@nicholasroberts6954]

The Barry Boys website used to do "Shed-of-the-week" .. for ridiculously modded cars, fibre-glass monstrosities,.. hilarious.. Perhaps could do "Situational unawareness t*sser of the week"

[@leswall3061]

The highway code clearly says, give larger vehicles room to maneuver, had the bus driver kept more to the nearside, the rear wheels would have gone over the grass verge and got very close to the lamppost, you could very easily have slow down to give the bus driver more room

[@varoma5641]

Yes to story time. I bet you have a lot! 👍

[@kungfutuber]

11:40 I have no idea what it was so looked it up. With a quick search though, I've found it's a Frazer Nash Fast Tourer 16:57 Not sure on that one. Guessing it's maybe a Ford? 27:18 - Had to google that one - Citroen Light 15. 13:05 Been on the M25 that long, huh? 😅 Cab stories would be great! 25:06 & 25:35 Many indicate and move at the same time. They need to read higway code rule 162. The second BMW driver especially IMO is driving carelessly and could be prosecuted for that manoeuvre. Didn't leave a lot of room in front of the next 2 cars he moved in front of either, especially not enough braking distance that's for sure. 29:12 All perfectly legal! Except it's speeding, has an obstructed view L plate on the back and fitted obstructed L plate on the front. it's MOT ran out on the 19th of July (3 days later) and it's now SORN! Let's hope you don't see it on the road again! 😅

[@michellesimpson4364]

07:47 I think that bus turned that corner a bit too fast. If he’d of done it with less speed he might not have been so wide.

[@trevorberridge6079]

@@michellesimpson4364 You misunderstand how an un-articulated long vehicle takes a corner. The bus was wholly on it's side of the road by the time it reached Tony.

[@michellesimpson4364]

@@trevorberridge6079 yes I agree but still looked a bit too fast to me

[@alannickson3197]

Hey up Tony. Tales from the cab sounds great, How about calling it CABANORY as a throw back to JACKANORY.

[@MrSkruffy82]

The black car on the Ewell bypass didn't turn left it went straight on to Epsom and all it did was use all of the road and merged in turn, reducing the queue. Pause it at 8:45 and you will see it going straight on. The blue Peugeot though was a complete numpty

[@alanclarke4646]

You just know that Ditch, Smilerbob and AndrewWhite are still going to argue the toss

[@suziforester]

Really.....you missed out Cranna😂😂😂

[@suziforester]

@@AndrewWhite-fu7bn And then there's you

[@heatherhoward2513]

​@AndrewWhite-fu7bn you missed out imbecility!

[@alanclarke4646]

@@suziforester I just KNEW there was one! 🤣🤣🤣

[@alanclarke4646]

@@suziforester I knew there was one. Sorry Suzi. 🤣🤣

[@ianemery2925]

I have had run ins with smilerbob myself "all cyclists have home insurance"; no they dont. "Yes they do, all my mates have home insurance". I dont. "But everyone I know has home insurance!" So you ask everyone you know?? I doubt it; I know a lot of people who ride bikes, because they are too poor for a car - which also means too poor to splash out on house insurance. Yet he still keeps copy/pasting the same crap.

[@Alan-xxxxxx]

I'd be more concerned about the one million + uninsured cars on the road

[@ianemery2925]

@@Alan-xxxxxx What does that have to do with smilerbob?? Does he drive an uninsured car as well??

[@Alan-xxxxxx]

@ianemery2925 ? No idea who or what you are on about

[@heatherhoward2513]

​@Alan-xxxxxx keep up mate, she's referring to the posts about smilerbob... cannot believe that name, he's too grumpy to smile!

[@Alan-xxxxxx]

@@heatherhoward2513 She? Ian Emery sounds like a male. Unless they identify otherwise.

[@mihohobaba]

Remember folks - priority is GIVEN, not TAKEN

[@trevorberridge6079]

@@mihohobaba That totally opposes what Tony always says. He always rants about who HAS priority not who GIVES it.

[@mihohobaba]

@@trevorberridge6079 That is exactly why I put it in the comments.

[@suziforester]

@@mihohobaba Thats why you're boring

[@lefthandedspanner]

at 20:40 that is one very wide lane each way - there are no lane-dividing markings, so it is a single lane though going by the width of it, it probably used to be two lanes each way Sheffield is nowhere near as extreme with speed limits as Oxford or Cambridge (there's far fewer cyclists, for a start - the only flat land is on top of some people's heads!), but you can definitely tell which major roads in the district are trunk routes, as opposed to council-run: they're only ones with National Speed Limit, all the others have 50 limits