Bad UK Driving Vol 81, Stupid Cyclist, Pedestrians, Lorries and Cars

[@lostrealist2023]

Bloke filming the undertaking lorry wants to consider not sitting in the middle lane and being undertaken by people.

[@markgambrill]

Actually I think those conditions were appropriate for the 'stay in lane' instructions quite often on the gantries when traffic is busy. Given the unpredictable nature of the truck it was also more important to be staying away from them.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@markgambrill may I add to that that sometimes idiots will start to pass on your nearside before you can safely pull back in, even if you’re indicating!

[@markgambrill]

@@paulcollyer801 indeed

[@thelondondashcam]

And there is a junction coming up, if I can I will be there anyway to make it easier for them to enter the motorway. It’s all about reading the road not what’s just in front of you but Beyond that, obviously the lorry driver was only thinking of himself.

[@luvstellauk]

@@thelondondashcam It's also worth mentioning that dashcams make thing look a lot further away than they are so what looks like a big gap you could've pulled back in to actually isn't, so if you are slowly gaining on traffic then not worth keep changing lanes, also if there are slip roads coming up leaving the inside lane free allows joining traffic to merge.

[@user-ei3dq2dw6i]

The pedestrians ignoring the prohibited sign on the building must be push bike riders day off

[@rjm1764]

The first clip shows why cyclists are disliked by so many. The truck driver in the third clip was lethal. One wrong move by him orca driver in front, and there would be a multi vehicle accident. Note the police van, though, just along the side of the slip road before the clip finishes. The same could be said with the other truck driver in a later clip. And, the cab had the company details? The mind boggles!

[@Optikification]

you should see the racing cyclists in the Netherlands and then understand why people hate them, they race around in groups of like 20 and block the roads and cut up car drivers etc and even go on roads where they are not allowed to when we have so many cycle paths but they refuse to use them.

[@mintywebb]

So when you've never driven over 30:in a built up area you can comment about what other people do. Just as high a percentage of cars go through red lights as cyclists, the car drivers just assume they are entitled to do it, and that others aren't.

[@maskofsan1ty]

Do you hate all drivers because some speed?

[@Barrheedyin]

In the first clip, yes the cyclists broke the rules, however it looked very much like a sleepy Sunday morning and the roads were clear, so though technically they were in the wrong they were causing no danger to themselves or anyone so why be upset?

[@dpn1604]

That first clip Surely the traffic light cameras will snap a photo and send them a fine? Oh, wait... Uh...

[@benhartley2486]

As a cyclist, I'd support that if IDing them wasn't a problem.

[@maskofsan1ty]

Why would you want cyclists to need to be registered?

[@benhartley2486]

@@maskofsan1ty Accountability in case they cause an accident.

[@maskofsan1ty]

@@benhartley2486 oh sorry. Didn't realize you meant pedestrians as well.

[@johnhodkinson2063]

You do love to hog that middle lane while calling out everyone else for being bad drivers

[@thelondondashcam]

Yep all 49 seconds spent lane hogging

[@LingLiu2014]

I had the same issue driving to Soho Square, London constant cyclist not bothered about the traffic lights and a few impatient drivers refuse to drive at 20mph even with speed cameras about!

[@vmcougarintn5035]

That last cyclist must have been having a very bad day. I mean he stopped at the red light! Amazing!

[@hamishanderson6738]

And so what if he hadn't? Wouldn't have hurt anyone except some anally retentive whinger.

[@malcolmlaverack6408]

For me, cyclists jumping red lights happens because there is little or no enforcement by police. Not the Police's fault however because they can't be everywhere when it happens. It needs a whole change of law and the way it is enforced. Cycles need to be registered and display a registration plate at point of sale/purchase and fixed cameras at traffic lights. This would make tracing easier but it wouldn't be perfect as some riders would make and display false plates. Holland has them so why not the UK? I am not anti cyclist as I am a driver and a cyclist who fully supports safe driving and cycling.

[@darrennoles9056]

Fines would EASILY cover extra wageworkers to catch jumpers, if it were taken seriously. But not considering pedestrians, which statistically are at low risk from actual injuries from *head-on* collision with cyclists at pedestrian crossings anyway, cycling is arguably safer for the cyclist than pushing the bike as can accelerate fast, be more visible, see around more and jump on car or out of way more easily instead of be hit by car

[@Toby_the_Glen]

I think most cyclists are themselves more as pedestrians than motorists. But we all 'road users' and should follow highway code regardless. Using the road is a privilege not a right, and for those with a licence, that privilege can be removed?

[@andyp315]

Holland has them?? Are you meaning the plates that stopped during WW2 that were made to show you had paid your cycle tax for that year, essentially your old UK tax disc rather than a license plate... not identifiable for a distance? Or do you mean on mopeds which other counties like the UK already require for such vehicles?

[@frankfurtflow9148]

you do realize that these three cyclists helped traffic right? made sure not to take right of way, didn't have any negative effect on anybody. if they would wait then you have to follow them right away and instantly have to drive slow, with them passing through the red safely, the cars then have to catch up before having to follow them.

[@hamishanderson6738]

@@frankfurtflow9148 Quite right. But some motorists & pedestrians just want to whinge.

[@peterkeleher]

that lorry driver is a disgrace. should be reported. in fact i may do so myself.

[@CalumOH]

As long as the lorry driver wasn't speeding he's done nothing wrong. Undertaking is permitted during slow moving traffic which looks like this may be the case. Also the risk was minimal due to the lorry being on a slip road and no other cars should be merging on to the slip road, he is doing the right thing by using the slip road to its full extent

[@robertwillis4061]

@@CalumOH Not just the lane changes, he was tailgating -. American studies show on dry roads an average stopping distance for a car at 55mph is 64yds. For a Laden HGV varies from 85yds to 143yds. Do the maths on that. Ok the HGV driver does have a better forward view than the car, and may start braking earlier. But that depends on the reason for the stop. That driver is dangerous and was trying to intimidate the cars in front.

[@hamishanderson6738]

The cars shouldn't be hogging all the lanes.

[@CalumOH]

@@robertwillis4061 The cars in front are clearly driving far too slow and shouldn't be in the lanes they're in. HGVs are legally limited to 60mph. That looks like a 60-70mph road and the traffic isn't that bad, there's no excuse for cars, especially the cammer to be in the lane they're in. Those studies may show the stopping distance but that's relative to the situation. No vehicle on the motorway is going to perform an emergency stop that is suicide. This video proves that slow drivers are more dangerous, their situational awareness is shocking and their selfishness on the overtaking lanes leads to the frustration of other drivers. Yes the lorry shouldn't have done what he did, but he has done nothing wrong according to the law other than tailgating.

[@johntozer8270]

First clip shows why all cyclist should be made to wear a pin number when on a cycle on public roads so they can be made accountable

[@andyp315]

In just this video there were 6 clips of pedestrians walking out across a "red man", into live traffic or walking in no pedestrian zones. Sows a much more widespread issue. Perhaps a high vis vest with an ID number should be required.

[@maskofsan1ty]

Doesn't stop drivers... Won't stop cyclists.

[@ianhill4585]

With things bunged in or over your ears, you'd think people would take MORE care, not less. We're in a parallel universe.🙄 It's probably a case of" well,I'm in hospital anyway, I'll risk it, ambulance doesn't have to go too far for me"...............

[@ulysseskruger]

How can someone that sits in the middle lane all year talk about good driving?

[@thelondondashcam]

You’re obviously not that good at reading the roads ahead.

[@ulysseskruger]

@@thelondondashcam numerous people have mentioned the same thing pal. Put that dashcam away, the lack of self awareness is embarrassing!

[@thelondondashcam]

@@ulysseskruger With over 16,000 views and just a handful of people saying the same thing your maths is embarrassing

[@ulysseskruger]

@@thelondondashcam is a handful not numerous?

[@daemonrage]

This is the first time that I‘ve ever watched a dash cam video and known every road in it 😂 I live in Cobham, so the M25, A3 and Leatherhead are well known to me!

[@loc4725]

I saw a clip on another channel recently where a cyclist jumps a red light at a crossing, glances at the offers in Primark(?) and whilst doing so proceeds to ride straight into a pushchair. There was sadly no audio but from the looks of things the mother was hysterical whilst the cyclist appeared to actually be trying to defend their behaviour. To be fair though most cyclists don't cause any issues and seem to actually quite professional in their road use, but there is a small minority of pious lycra-clad bell ends who take full advantage of the ability to just ride away without fear of being traced. I guess the mentality is it's you driving the 2 ton steel box and therefore you who has all the responsibility.

[@thelondondashcam]

I think I’ve seen the same clip, not a great advert for cyclists. I’ve got to be honest here and say I must see the small minority you talk about everyday, it’s so rare I see cyclists do what they are supposed to do, I’m actually surprised when they stop at red lights.

[@loc4725]

@@thelondondashcam I live just outside London so perhaps I manage to avoid the -Guardian reader- more entitled types? That said the Chelsea tractor & Audi drivers are just as bad.

[@New-ye2fl]

To my fellow cyclists, the road is yours, take control and cycle right in the middle.

[@thelondondashcam]

That is what they do anyway

[@CalumOH]

As long as the lorry driver wasn't speeding he's done nothing wrong other than tailgating. Undertaking is permitted during timed at which traffic becomes slow moving which looks like this may be the case. Also the risk was minimal due to the lorry being on a slip road and no other cars should be merging on to the slip road, he is doing the right thing by using the slip road to its full extent

[@thelondondashcam]

Oh Dear, 1) it is *advised* in the Highway Code that you do not undertake. 2) although undertaking isn’t illegal you could get prosecuted for dangerous driving. 3) The slip road is a slip road to come *off* the motorway not *on* so he shouldn’t have been on the slip road at all unless he wanted to leave the motorway. So he was doing quite a bit wrong.

[@luvstellauk]

You are joking, they used the slip road up until they could go no further, pulled back on to the motorway and immediately got up the arse of a car on the inside lane, that aside the slip road is for people exiting the motorway, not for impatient drivers to use as their own personal lane in order to jump queues.

[@JohnSmith-rw2yn]

@@thelondondashcam the highway code also states, that if the traffic is heavy you can maintain your speed in Lane 1 even if this means undertaking. lane 1 was clear when he goes past the coach and is keeping his speed consistent. The tailgating was bad but he used all of the slip before it run out and just proceeded with traffic. only the tailgate seemed wrong.

[@thelondondashcam]

@@JohnSmith-rw2yn I don’t know what you’re watching because everything you said is wrong I hope we are watching the same clip, The slip road first of all is a slip road coming off not on the motorway so he shouldn’t even be in there anyway, you say undertaking while maintaining his speed when did he ever maintain speed ?

[@JohnSmith-rw2yn]

@@thelondondashcam that makes sense now. it looked on first glance that he was joining the motorway. my mistake. but yes if you're in Lane one and traffic is heavy you can and possibly will end up undertaking. But yeah the slip road and tailgating is terrible driving.

[@alexmeikle1980]

why does everybody hate cyclists do people not know cyclists are exempt from all laws that apply to the road. lol.

[@edj4833]

Cyclists are not perfect, but a majority of drivers break speed limits, many tailgate, use their phone, also go through red lights, and a list of other offences too.

[@SGPFK8TypeR]

@@edj4833 Found a member of the Lycra bum brigade.

[@edj4833]

@@SGPFK8TypeR any intelligent response to my comment or are we just going for insults today?

[@simonavarne9635]

I'm a driver and don't hate cyclists, in fact I like them as every cyclist is one less car that I'm stuck behind in traffic.

[@seanC3i]

@@edj4833 "Yeah, but, but whatabout motorists" is the typical defense I hear from cyclists about rampant and flagrant lawbreaking by cyclists. Sailing through red lights, bulldozing pedestrians out of their way on the footpaths, you name it.

[@johnawalker9261]

People in glass houses etc..

[@thelondondashcam]

Yes go on

[@spitfire4206]

i find if all vehicle owners were to jump traffic lights it would be like demolition derby

[@IanLanc]

Why not put the title to......''Bad UK Driving Vol 81, Stupid Cyclist, Blind To Everything Pedestrians -Dangerous Lorry Drivers - Stupid Inconsiderate Car Drivers''

[@Mhlikescars]

I was driving an electric car recently (a Leaf), and a man was walking in the middle of the road, no idea I was behind him, decided to do a quick tap of the horn. Poor bloke jumped 6 foot in the air, but did wave sorry. Fortunately my personal car is diesel, so sounds like a tractor, most people can hear me when they're walking in the middle of the road.

[@tg92277]

Yet another reason I'm dreading the mandatory switch to electric. If you don't see the car coming, you won't hear it either!

[@paulcollyer801]

@@tg92277 I dread it cos I have nowhere guaranteed to charge at either of my jobs or at home. 2 days at my other job means 215 miles driving, with potential shift overrun, (worst one was a 16 1/4hr shift) plus hour’s drive each way. Now imagine I have to go to a supermarket & charge my car for an hour…..

[@Steves-Bikes]

The guy complaining about the truck undertaking was hogging the middle lane.

[@thelondondashcam]

Try and read the road, ie what’s in front of me, what’s next to me and what’s coming up.

[@samhenwood5746]

Thanks The London Dash cam & people are a nightmare 🫣

[@paulcollyer801]

I have a couple of questions, as a professional driver myself, (Cat CE, HGV1):- 1) Are you a cabbie, in a LEVC Black Cab?? 2) If so, what are you doin “Sarhf a da rivah?” 😂😂

[@thelondondashcam]

No it’s a bit of a red herring, and I can’t be a black cabbie driving south of the water all the time 😂😂

[@CalumOH]

7:05 what exactly is going on in this clip? Other than the cammer having poor lane discipline and staying in the middle lane.

[@thelondondashcam]

You really don’t understand slip roads do you ? And being in lane 2 is ok if you are overtaking which I was, Do you drive ? Because these are really basic things that you should know.

[@hamishanderson6738]

@@thelondondashcam Nope, you hog the middle lane, mate.

[@anoncyclist2131]

is 5:10 a tucan crossing? the stagger usually means it is. if it is they didnt really do anything wrong, joining after the solid line wouldnt be skipping. if it isnt then you just walk to the other side ahead of the red instead, the power of walking on a bike gives you so much flexibility to save time but ppl just dont do it

[@thelondondashcam]

It’s still a red light isn’t it ? I can’t see any bike lane signs saying he was ok to be on a bike crossing the road.

[@anoncyclist2131]

@@thelondondashcam thats why i asked what crossing type it was. you can walk 1 cm past the solid line, remount and ride off. the HWC is very specific that lights only apply to the stop line and vehicles, nothing already past and nothing walking. it can be annoying cycling to find good places to join the road when you come to the end of a off road cycle lanes. the guy rides on the road so he gets points there

[@aswclassicsdorset1743]

The 3rd clip, that truck driver is a 1st class pratt, shows what pr**ks are allowed to drive hgv now, I passed my class 1 in 1976 and truck driving standards have gone down hill in the last 20 years

[@paulcollyer801]

As a fellow trucker (in the top 2% of our company’s drivers, and we have thousands), tbf all driving standards have significantly slipped over the years

[@anoncyclist2131]

not the point of the clip 7:26 is a great example of where ppl fail to understand basic numbers and get way too angry and shout "lane hogger" because of it. look at the bike in lane 1 of the main road. take you 12-15 seconds to get level with him, but no good driver would move over despite the fact you arent overtaking for 15 seconds. because in reality, you are only 2 second away from him at max. yet this is the type of thing dashcam video comments rage at for lane hogging and seem clueless despite how serious they are

[@thelondondashcam]

That is true it’s not a race to overtake, people are not doing what you have just done, you have read the road before commenting which a lot of people on here do not read the road and start shouting lane hogged.

[@debbiehannah4817]

Excellent compilations of clips, thank you!

[@butterfly-bw6cx]

Just what I wanted to watch. Traffic on the motorway. I'm bored now I so I can sleep

[@thelondondashcam]

Happy to help

[@bramelsheretan]

you make me laugh

[@anoncyclist2131]

shame the truck is unmarked, they need to learn to respect the thing they are driving. i hate other truck drivers when they think everyone is fine with been 5m from other trucks... no fuck off away from my space, the truck needs 4 seconds to be safe considering you have no idea whats in mine. dont pull in when you are just past, keep the fuck away from my rear end where i can barely see you in the artic. dont expect to be flashed in before you are away from my stopping distance and its clear you are passed anyways

[@diq5386]

It's cyclists like those bozos that give us sensible ones a bad name. Probably couldn't be bothered stopping incase their average speed limit drops on strava 🙄

[@richardgiles2484]

The first clip is a classic why cyclists should be able to be identified. All it needs is a HiViz vest with a number for that person regardless of what they ride. If the first clip was motorcycles they would get proceequited with points. But we all know this will never happen as it's very political 🤣🤣

[@IanLanc]

Richard can pedestrians also have a hi-viz vest & number too please.

[@richardgiles2484]

@@IanLanc what a totally stupid question. I take it you are one of the so called professional cyclists who do no wrong and always consider others 🤔🤣

[@899800801]

4:17 report the stupid coach driver for being a middle lane hogger. Is the Golf undertaking illegal ?

[@robp1316]

But the dashcammer is also lane hogging and does so repeatedly. Undertaking in itself isn't an offence. It's only an offence if like any other lane change or maneuver it causes a problem or crash.

[@jnhhhhhhhh]

Perfectly fine to undertake there in my opinion. In fact, changing two lanes to overtake would be far more risky. But yeah, the cammer doesn't have great lane discipline themselves, either.

[@thelondondashcam]

In this short clip I have overtaken 13 vehicles while keeping good braking distance how can that be Lane hogging ?

[@thelondondashcam]

It’s bad weather conditions and you say it’s perfectly fine to undertake there really !!!

[@tracynation2820]

Super. 💙 T.E.N.

[@leem2362]

Undertaking lorry on the slip road, what do you expect ? Check the date it,s a Friday. or as it's know as Footdown Friday. Got to be the worst day of the week for this type of driving from so called professionals.

[@thelondondashcam]

😂

[@ChuckieFinzter]

Well you complained about all these other people, but perhaps you should take a closer look at your own driving first.

[@thelondondashcam]

You can always tell me what I’m doing wrong

[@ChuckieFinzter]

@@thelondondashcam Well for starters... Amber means stop, something which you should have done. 00:40 Obviously not 5 mph at 01:20 Debaterable sitting in lane 3 for so long (surely not to get video of truck now?) 03:35 Without knowing this, its possible that's its a toucan crossing 05:05 You should give way to pedestrians new Highway code rules. Anyway pedestrians have priority. 05:50 06:05 You stopped, the pulled out. 50/50 Sitting in lane three for no reason. 06:50 Sitting in lane 2 caused the bad driving of the BMW driver undertaking you. 09:00

[@thelondondashcam]

@@ChuckieFinzter 0:40 Only when safe to do so, as I was about 8ft away that would of been very Harsh breaking and dangerous because I had a car behind me. 01:20 correct 03:35 that’s lane 2 not 3 because of the slip road, and I have a car to my right so can’t move over to overtake the coach until he’s out of my way. 05:50 there’s no sign saying it’s a cycle lane before the crossing, so should have dismounted bike and walked across officially. But I thought we were talking about what I was doing wrong ? 05:50 that highway code rule applies for junctions not with traffic lights on so pedestrian should have waited when I’ve got a green light. 06:05 they have give way lines I don’t so they should have stopped. 06:50 again that’s not lane 3 you are having trouble with slip roads. 09:00 look at the road markings left lane goes left right lane goes straight on or right, so if it’s alright with you I like to follow the road markings and be in the correct lane. So you got me on not doing 5mph for a couple of seconds, well done the rest is wishful thinking.

[@toku_floyd]

Cycle user cycling with no hands on his bike, risks a £1000 fine, if the police had the resources to enforce the law.

[@Toby_the_Glen]

What about those bloody electric scooters! Ride wear you like, fast as you like! No names no pack drill and no consequences for them!

[@anoncyclist2131]

5 mhp area, ranting at pedestrians is a bit of a low point when you are going above that. even if ti says no peds, you dont get up a person arse in a car or squeeze by with them against a wall

[@thelondondashcam]

I didn’t squeeze pass them, and who walks in the middle of the road

[@EuroScot2023]

@@thelondondashcam It's not a road - it's a passage/accessway. It's sheer stupidity putting a no pedestrian access sign amongst a clutter of others halfway up a wall. I'd be surprised if more than 5% of those who work there realise there is a restriction. The 'No Pedestrian Access'' should be in bold white on the road if people are serious about it.

[@luvstellauk]

What part of "No Pedestrian Access" do you not understand? I bet you are one of those cyclists that ignores "Cyclists Dismount" signs

[@granddadmark7639]

One minute in left turn no indicator 🤔

[@thelondondashcam]

I suggest you turn your volume up

[@granddadmark7639]

@@thelondondashcam your earlier indicator was clearly audible 🤔

[@thelondondashcam]

The video is in fast forward at the left turn but you can still hear it, turn your volume up or get your hearing aid checked out granddad.😜

[@FozzyZ28]

How the f*ck you're so calm in your videos is beyond on me???! You must be a saint or on medication.... Lol

[@thelondondashcam]

😂😂

[@amberkhan7162]

The lorry cannot use the outside lane. Slower moving cars are hogging the centre lane, when they should've been in the left lane with cars doing the same speed. Lorry driver probably tired of idiots hogging the road? Sure, you speed up after, catch up with the lorry then slow back down to hogging the centre lane! To put this type of criticising others videos up, your driving needs to be 100% perfect and it's not.

[@jasongoulden2938]

That truck drivers an accident waiting to happen a total disregard for other peoples lives should have his license taken off him wet conditions aswell

[@MrMazza4321]

Lorry driver needs their licence revoked

[@paulcollyer801]

Naaah, just some polite “retraining” from the Sgt Maj that taught me.

[@schessor]

The cyclists must think they are in Idaho, or that their law is a good idea; that said they are not following that law either "The Idaho stop is the common name for laws that allow cyclists to treat a stop sign as a yield sign, and a red light as a stop sign." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop