SFV Season 4.5 at a glance - Akuma

[@CyberGief]

You can play previous versions of characters by doing old trials

[@Bafael]

True but then I can't show Ryu jumping over a fireball activate and getting DP'd.

[@stilmaho]

@@Bafael You can show b.H > red fireball > 2x dash > dp combo. Not that it really matters, just wanted to point it out.

[@spoofy8885]

red fireball into VT on whiff no longer working is every Akuma main’s worst nightmare

[@CarInMyAss]

Yeah a lot of them depend on it

[@donchan9359]

Finally... hates being punished for a READ on a fireball. It was plain bullshit.

[@Phoenix_KDE]

@@donchan9359 lol a read? Nah that's you getting baited 😂😂😂 no Akuma player throws that out without expecting a jump when they have v trigger waiting to be activated

[@andrew6179]

Phoenix Ed You couldn‘t even punish his fireball on reaction with ca, (with akuma himself at least) .That was stupid, because as you said you could bait people out for days with that shit lol Zoning master into vt-dp after activation (aka as good damage / stun and a hard knockdown for crying out loud AND with full meter... the next bait! Do you want to get demon‘d or do you want to get meatied into more damage?) This makes the mirror matched more rewarding for the better player anyway.

[@BigCreepySleepy]

As a Birdie main, Akuma’s nerfs aren’t to bad. He’s just not brain dead anymore.

[@ddi516]

could say the same about birdie

[@multechpro7151]

actually that applies more to birdie than akuma, the only braindead thing that akuma had is the free activation after whiff fireball, but birdie still has many braindead tools even after the nerf

[@zetsuron_g4]

birdie brain dead too lol throwing trash an shit

[@baadshahmiya]

Birdie can still spam his normals so...

[@LucianRudeboy]

As a Birdie main, I would've never said I'm a Birdie main cuz ^^^^ is always the result

[@truancii]

"Akumas dead" still got every tool in the game just more "fair" ig

[@stilmaho]

Akuma doesn't have a proper command grab. It's Necalli who has every tool in the game

[@slimballs9650]

@@stilmaho He has his Demon Flip followup if that counts.

[@stilmaho]

@@slimballs9650 that’s why I specified proper

[@slimballs9650]

@@stilmaho That’s also why I said “if that counts”.

[@stilmaho]

@@slimballs9650 obviously I don’t think that it counts

[@nadavrot]

Note to Bath: if you need to show a move that was taken away (such as whiffed FB into VT activate) you can always show it in trials mode.

[@Bafael]

As I said in other comments, if I look at it in trials I can't show opponent jumping over a fireball activate and eating an anti air.

[@nadavrot]

Bafael I see. Thanks for explaining that. Also, sorry for butchering your name in the previous comment. Stupid auto-correction😄

[@brysenplays3146]

That’s lowkey cold

[@DEClimax]

as an akuma player I'm happy about most of this. VT1 fireball activate should have been axed when they took that away from VT2--they already saw it was too strong, and I find it a little confusing it stuck around that long. imo if you aren't labbing VT2 now you're making a mistake, it's always been a strong trigger and with the biggest advantage VT1 has over it going away + VT2 gaining yet more new options, it's in your best interest to understand how to use it even if you stick with VT1. there will definitely be a lot of akuma players using it you'll have to face in the mirror.

[@x6173]

funny thing is I've always used vt2 over vt1 for some reason so this is a win for me

[@multechpro7151]

@@x6173 vt1 is still the better option imo no matter what, and the least of things that makes vt1 better is all the raging demon setups , if they want players to use vt2 they should make RD possible in vt2

[@x6173]

Multech Pro ik vt1 is still better it’s just that from release I always stuck with vt2 so a buff is good for a vt2 main like me

[@andrew6179]

I always played a little with vt-2 just to train myself lol You had no access to whiff fireball shit so you couldn‘t steal rounds with that, but you could often steal rounds abusing vs-2 things vs opponents who didn‘t know what to do against those cancels into demonflip lmao. It‘s also good because you can use v-reversal, but now they even nerfed that.. That‘s so sad lol why the v-rev, nerf back fierce if you want but that damn v-rev? I wonder why they did that. It never seemed like a good v-rev to me lol

[@BlueLightningSky]

Well at least he's got something new to do with his parry

[@stilmaho]

Ok guys, can someone tell me how to play chun li match up with Akuma? I can't seem to win against even much weaker Chuns online.

[@multechpro7151]

i main ryu wich is even harder than akuma vs chun li, what you want to do in chun li's mu, first zone with fireballs at the distance just outisde her gliding move , that way u can punish it if she tries to get in or dp or back HP if she jumps, second if chunli gets in use neutral jump because chun li players tend to keep mashing her hp, and since u play akuma u can do an air fireball or better the dive kick to get in , avoid doing regular jumps cuz chun li players are always ready to aa with hk or lk

[@stilmaho]

@@multechpro7151 I can't jump in that HP range though. I always get caught by it and that's one of the biggest reasons I can't win against her. In mid and close range she seems to beat my every option.

[@multechpro7151]

@@stilmaho u can do a neutral jump after the first HP on block or if u expect the chun player to throw a HP do cr HK it beats it

[@stilmaho]

@@multechpro7151 I would use VS instead of HK since it is potentially more rewarding and saver but they use cr.MK sometimes which beats VS. Thanks for the advice though, I will try it next time I play against a Chun.

[@tyrfang]

Chun-li's jump is floaty and her VS1 has some startup. Zone her with fireballs outside her Cr.MP range (the slide that goes under fireballs) and don't be too obvious with them, or she will interrupt you with long range normals. That's it. Remember her own fireball's charge time is quite high so she can't properly fight a fireball war without using a lot of meter.

[@Intrenxic_Dark]

I always thought that Akuma should be cheap. I wasn't a fan of fighting him though but, I think he maybe got hit a tad bit hard. I'm gonna miss watching Tokido's Akuma in tourney now.

[@summ.3433]

If anything, these nerfs were overdue, vtc from whiff fireball was the most brain-dead mechanic he had.

[@ngubod16]

Not sure if you’re aware but Tokido actually used Akuma at the recent Red Bull Kumite where he came 7th.

[@ngubod16]

Sweet Mango Lol. I watched it live. The event took place about 2 weeks ago and had all the champion Edition updates. In fact, Fujimura who won the tournament used Ibukis VS2 through out.

[@Intrenxic_Dark]

@@ngubod16 Yeah he used Akuma because he'd been playing Akuma up until that point. He hadn't had an opportunity to really explore other characters seeing that the patch was barely out for less than 3 days or so. If you check his CFN, TOP_A_GA, he's barely touched Akuma since the patch. He's been doing Urien and Chun-li rather than finding new tech for his "main"

[@zetsuron_g4]

yeah thats a pro if you instantly drop your main after nerfs 😂

[@1Semperf]

Please can someone do chunli

[@Bafael]

??? I already did chun. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ-rYZ6sq52kms0 and kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIfcdKige8eLqKs

[@HeavyMetalLink05]

Akuma got over nerfed imo, if he wasn't gonna get the health buff he needs to be strong in order to balance out his lower health FB whiff activate was to strong but the pushback on cr.MP feels like to much for a chacter with 125 less health then average I still have no idea why they'd nerf his Forward HP when it was already not used

[@jessISaRicePrincess]

That's the trade of though, his tools are still there and to be honest he still looks good like his usf4 self

[@microblast3700]

They only needed to nerf the vt activation

[@andrew6179]

ManuLololoco g and maybe b hp

[@bkoloska]

:(

[@TruGouki]

All they ever do is nerf.