Balance Druid Basic DPS Guide 6.0 WoD

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Preach Gaming

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@DiZzYDeNnis2k9
@DiZzYDeNnis2k9 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Preacher, thanks for the guide! As a main Moonkin who raids mythic, I would like to improve on some points you made. BoP is not about saving GCD's, especially on maidens, you still need to hardcast quite a lot of dots, as you do not have enough wrath/SF casts to keep 6 dots up all the time. BoP also increases DoT damage by 10%, which is the main deal. In fights where you basically do not use SS, as you want all your charges for starfall, BoP is the pick for most PERSONAL dps. In mythic you still end up with Euphoria as maximum AoE is not needed, you rather push single target. Only mythic BoP fight (with some exceptions depending on what your raid needs) is Maidens. Atm Starfall already is a dps gain with 2+ targets, not 3+. On MMO Forums some renowned Moonkins like Lappee(Paragon) and Cyous did some math on this. With 6.1 that gotta be recalculated though :( Nature's Vigil heals for 40% of your dps. When you pop it with all your cd's you will probably go up to 60k+ dps. that would generate 24k+ hps in that period, which is not as insignificant as you say it is. It is actually quite the opposite :). It is not true, that you cannot interact with the movement of you eclipse bar. Astral Communion can interact with it, which is especially useful when combined with the glyph + BoP and can lead to some dps gains. The opener is also done a bit differently. You want to use Inc at 2-1. Then prepot + ca + dots at 1-0 and then SS. You do not precast as you lose too much uptime on inc + pot because of that. Nagura put up a good guide on her channel (envy moonkin, now with Method again). cheers!
@Beledorian
@Beledorian 9 жыл бұрын
OK everyone there are a couple things to note with this video: 1. Preach is not a Balance Druid main - so yes some of what he says is incorrect but this is a basic guide for someone just starting out. For beginners this is the perfect guide to follow. 2. Those are level 85 target dummys. I too was amazed at the 1 million crits and the 400k burst until I realised this. 3. The opening rotation is a bit different. You pop Incarnation then SS. Then bring out your Celestial Alignment and dots and then do the rotation preach says. This maximises Incarnation and prepot duration. 4. 6.1 is next week and the glyphs ARE CHANGING. You will now need to glyph 'Untamed Stars' in order to have your starfall hit everything so keep that in mind. Other than this great video for beginners. We Boomkin mains do love our little chicken buddys. More people playing them will hopefully allow blizz to see where they need improving and nerfing. The starfall nerf is going to be good and put us in line, but our utility is completely ruined without tranquility. I will be posting my first guide video after 6.1 hits as I have experience with Mythic raiding and have the time to detail this all to you. Hope to see some of you there.
@awyee
@awyee 3 жыл бұрын
Tried to follow this in 9.0 but couldn't find displacer beast ;) Thanks for the nostalgia bomb for a time of the game I haven't thought about in a long time
@vilestine
@vilestine 9 жыл бұрын
The timing is perfect! Im 94 lvl now and hundred before sunday. Also when I dinged my rogue you posted your guides day or two before! Thanks for guides :)
@renancza
@renancza 9 жыл бұрын
Moonkin: 1 spell=40k dps. Feral: Rigid rotation with complete uptime on buffs and bleeds: hardly 30k dps
@AverageSheky
@AverageSheky 9 жыл бұрын
Whatever kind of moonkin you're playing that only uses one spell, i'd be curious to know what that spell is... I have to use 5 :(
@Starrdog
@Starrdog 9 жыл бұрын
AverageSheky starfall
@AverageSheky
@AverageSheky 9 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, forgot about the other 95% opf the rotation
@Starrdog
@Starrdog 9 жыл бұрын
AverageSheky A very simple rotation.
@13ofus
@13ofus 9 жыл бұрын
well assuming there is like 6 or more mobs.
@packmanGB
@packmanGB 9 жыл бұрын
At certain mastery amounts there is a dps increase with using star fall even on two targets. Casting starfall is even close in damage single target when using star surge plus the empowerment combined with the corresponding empowerment spell. Casting star fall during a solar phase is a loss compared to being cast in lunar, but is still a damage increase for 2 targets. Pretty good article on restokin, the author does state that the graphs are based on 6.1 values. Really love your videos.
@ReimoTeervalt
@ReimoTeervalt 9 жыл бұрын
Came for moonkin basics, left with moonkin dance.
@mmx29mmx29
@mmx29mmx29 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Preach, just a word about the Eclipse bar - you can actually detach it from the player frame and move anywhere you want. I keep it just below TMW so I can see it as clearly. To do so, (I assume you run ElvUI as far as i can see) go to /ec then Unitframes, select Player Frame, then on the right hand side from the drop down menu select Classbar and tick Detach from frame. Now it will be subject to the anchoring like the rest of the frames and you can move it around.
@Iadad
@Iadad 9 жыл бұрын
Sickest intro ever preach!
@dk1879
@dk1879 9 жыл бұрын
The dance was everything I was looking for. Thank you
@vebjsand
@vebjsand 9 жыл бұрын
Quick correction, once you have 2 targets that will take damage from Starfall's full duration, it's beneficial over starsurge. Atleast if you're 640-650+. If you look at all the top logs for Twins, Hans'Gar etc, they prio starfall over starsurge. At first I thought it was just because you have to move quite alot on those fights, but I went into LFR standing completely still on Twins and I had significantly higher dps when using starfall than when using starsurge instead. I suppose it can rely a little on your gear, as alot of haste will pull starfall even further ahead. Also, if you reapply dots just as you're about to leave an eclipse, it's not as easy to fuck up, and with a little gear you can actually get 1 more wrath out of each solar eclipse while still redotting just before leaving. Your wrath will be cast at like 3-4 solar energy and your sunfire will hit at 0-1 solar energy, or atleast still register as solar even when in lunar as latency delays makes it so. Shouldn't be very hard to do the math on it either. In my head it makes more sense to be casting starfire while at lunar peak to get the most out of the lunar buff + the mastery you have, rather than more initial dot damage which doesn't scale as well with your gear.
@tobkus
@tobkus 9 жыл бұрын
The video in the start! I NEED THAT IN MY LIFE
@scottfriedline1199
@scottfriedline1199 9 жыл бұрын
I was literally in tears after the first 20 seconds of this video.
@MasterCrafterFish
@MasterCrafterFish 9 жыл бұрын
I came here for the boomies, stayed for the first 20 sec, and liked for the shout out to Nobbel.
@AnimeVampire234
@AnimeVampire234 9 жыл бұрын
LOL okay first 20 seconds was all i needed now im going to bed xD it explained the whole 21 min of the video.
@Rpfusa1
@Rpfusa1 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Preach, I like how easy your TMW button for Sun/Moonfire is. I'm new to TMW, so if you could show us how you set that button up, I know that I (and I'm sure many others) would find great use for it.
@ryanhannah1643
@ryanhannah1643 9 жыл бұрын
Just some clarification for you Preacher. Starfall is worth using on 2+ targets not just 3+. However, post 6.1 on Wednesday. on 2 targets, Starfall in Lunar and Starsurge in solar.
@cruros9084
@cruros9084 9 жыл бұрын
That intro... was AMAZING!!!
@harveyrenalds9700
@harveyrenalds9700 9 жыл бұрын
After much, much trial and error I can finally present how Preach set up his eclipse tellmewhen for Moonfire switching to Sunfire and vice versa. You select multi-state ability rather than spell cooldown as presented by another user and then proceed to enter Moonfire (the ID for the tooltip Moonfire) semi-colon Sunfire (the ID for the tooltip Sunfire). By default Usable should be checked. That's it!
@tgrainwater
@tgrainwater 9 жыл бұрын
The intro gave me an epileptic seizure. 10/10
@flowerpower8584
@flowerpower8584 9 жыл бұрын
Preach, I have a comment regarding you not recommending looking at the Eclipse Bar itself. With ElvUI, you can actually detatch that bar from the unit frame and put it wherever on the screen. I personally like to keep it above my Druid's head because, like you said, your attention should always be in the middle of the screen.
@cnp92
@cnp92 9 жыл бұрын
You're doing the crossing wrong, Preach. As there is no buff-snapshotting anymore in WoD you should choose whether to cast starfire/wrath on the basis of when you will finish the cast and NOT what eclipse you are currently in. It is a minor gain. Probably around 2 % dps, but the logic is pretty much the same as your argument about movement speed.
@an0nim0uz
@an0nim0uz 9 жыл бұрын
To be fair, 2% DPS is by no means minor. That's actually pretty damn big.
@DaJohnnyU
@DaJohnnyU 9 жыл бұрын
aww damn, thought video comes next week after 6.1 and then BAM new video
@Zanzibawrr
@Zanzibawrr 9 жыл бұрын
because the armor gained with the moonkin form was buffed from 100% to 200%, i think glyph of moonwarding should be buffed aswell.
@Sundman79
@Sundman79 9 жыл бұрын
Nice vids dude. Got a question tho: How have you fixed the target nameplates to stack ontop of eachother? Mine just blur together. Quite annoying.
@Splootzi
@Splootzi 9 жыл бұрын
Incoming Feral hate video! Lol JK Preach. Still like to watch your guides, just send a little more love for the kitty cats, we need hugs too. =)
@oliviervh
@oliviervh 9 жыл бұрын
That intro, lovely!
@xChromaticx1337
@xChromaticx1337 9 жыл бұрын
i loved the MoP Moonkin, i think it's so much worse now, i was going to be a moonkin in wod but i couldn't stand the independent eclipse and the changes to starsurge. Currently playing a Shadow Priest and I've been having lots of fun. Still, i would've really liked to play my boomy :/
@drunkpandainc
@drunkpandainc 9 жыл бұрын
LOL that intro....shouldnt have watched this at 5 am....woke my wife up laughing so hard.
@eddysplosion
@eddysplosion 9 жыл бұрын
I miss the Boomkin from WOTLK. All that sun and moon crap killed it for me :\
@magnussvik3862
@magnussvik3862 9 жыл бұрын
Haha the intro is too accurate
@Thasalian
@Thasalian 9 жыл бұрын
The answer to the song name is Aero Chord - Boundless. Now is that andy in that suit?
@ClawPhD
@ClawPhD 8 жыл бұрын
+Valentine V thank you!
@TheRealKent
@TheRealKent 9 жыл бұрын
Best intro ever :D
@markh.9398
@markh.9398 9 жыл бұрын
That was an epic boomkin intro lol
@lewiswilliams3748
@lewiswilliams3748 9 жыл бұрын
gotta like just for the opening
@PrincessEleiah
@PrincessEleiah 9 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but i thought starfall was a dps increase as soon as it was 2 targets, that will probably change after patch 6.1 though.
@Desidipdo
@Desidipdo 9 жыл бұрын
cannot wait for the bear vid, bring the heat preach and maybe someone will fix em
@xilllllix
@xilllllix 9 жыл бұрын
How did you remove the circle thing animation over your head?
@mero40k
@mero40k 9 жыл бұрын
Gret vids preacher! Request for elemental shaman next pls!
@Knives7777
@Knives7777 9 жыл бұрын
that intro is legit
@kasip100
@kasip100 9 жыл бұрын
So something I'm curious about Are boomkins actually "op" in their numbers or their kit being really good for these recent raid mechanics?
@LomaGnome
@LomaGnome 9 жыл бұрын
Who made that music video at the start? I need it... ...
@Cleancrazy1
@Cleancrazy1 9 жыл бұрын
I ALSO NEED THIS
@cirawyn
@cirawyn 9 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to just take that clip and make a 1 hr repeat video of it. That's what'll really help me minmax my Boomkin deeps!
@Cleancrazy1
@Cleancrazy1 9 жыл бұрын
i got you, in the url bar right after "youtube" write repeat and then you can change the start and stop times to right as the somg starts to right as the song ends and it will repeat that time your welcome :)
@Cleancrazy1
@Cleancrazy1 9 жыл бұрын
***** ty
@ichigo4chan
@ichigo4chan 9 жыл бұрын
I need to know the name of the song at the beginning with the epic moonkin dance (inb4 Darude - Sandstorm)! Thanks for any usefull answers :D
@brandonanspach2801
@brandonanspach2801 9 жыл бұрын
i would disagree that you dont need a eclipse addon when you get really good at managing your eclipse bar you can start precasting starfires while in solar so that when it finishes you are in lunar eclipse. ( mostly for euphoria)
@pympin87
@pympin87 9 жыл бұрын
whats the opinion of applying dot's at the midway point in the eclipse bar to try to get an extra cast at lunar/solar peak
@silver1indisguise696
@silver1indisguise696 9 жыл бұрын
AoE in 5sec = Astral Communion. Done
@Kiwicrack
@Kiwicrack 9 жыл бұрын
I dislike critchickens. But now I must roll one just for /dance with that song on the background.
@shipmate3577
@shipmate3577 9 жыл бұрын
Moonkin better than Elemental Shaman???
@gruadia
@gruadia 9 жыл бұрын
Is the bonus of where you are at in your eclipse cycle based on when you begin the spellcast or at the end of a successful spellcast?
@DAXP
@DAXP 9 жыл бұрын
At the end. There's an addon (balance power tracker) that can tell you where on the eclipse bar you'll be when you finish casting a spell, too.
@chrisdarbo2073
@chrisdarbo2073 8 жыл бұрын
so haven't touched a Moonkin since Burning Crusades and wow has it changed
@kierangust5740
@kierangust5740 9 жыл бұрын
what is the song called he uses at the start plz help me :P
@Arbitrator207
@Arbitrator207 8 жыл бұрын
Dumb question probably but how are you apply 'double dots' simultaneously? I'm only low level so far (28)
@macic2104
@macic2104 8 жыл бұрын
in solar you apply other effect than in lunar so they are two seperate dots
@bazzok123
@bazzok123 9 жыл бұрын
First of all, the stat priority is wrong, it's mastery/haste. Secondly, there is no other choice than sould of the forset with the new tier sets. You have a starsurge proc almost on every casts. which means you do 15% more dmg on every cast.
@NimyueDoula
@NimyueDoula 9 жыл бұрын
How do you get the charges of Starfall to show up in Tell Me When????
@roberttriplett9306
@roberttriplett9306 9 жыл бұрын
How does he setup the moon/sunfire tellmewhen
@Paulodemoc
@Paulodemoc 9 жыл бұрын
What is that staff you using at the start of the video?
@derickpickard58
@derickpickard58 9 жыл бұрын
any idea what class Preach is doing next?
@timmurray3240
@timmurray3240 9 жыл бұрын
Using the dot icon to track your eclipse is a terrible idea considering you should be precasting your spells before you hit the relevant eclipse.......
@P4TTL2
@P4TTL2 9 жыл бұрын
detatch the power bar and put it under your tmw just under your char? so much better to view
@a.alvarado1373
@a.alvarado1373 9 жыл бұрын
Boundless by Aero Chord
@CROUTONZZ
@CROUTONZZ 9 жыл бұрын
If they hadn't fucked up the eclipse bar I would've mained balance in WoD.
@VanorstusTV
@VanorstusTV 9 жыл бұрын
Can i get a link to the video u used at the start???
@Ygjard
@Ygjard 9 жыл бұрын
NOBBEL SHOUTOUT!!!
@panchitopistoles1030
@panchitopistoles1030 9 жыл бұрын
You say ou don't have control, but what about astral communication?
@MichaelParishkthx
@MichaelParishkthx 9 жыл бұрын
What is that mount in the top left corner seen from around 16:50? Looks like phoenix but never seen that colouring.
@IAmOrguz
@IAmOrguz 9 жыл бұрын
I would say its one of the firehawk mounts combined with a vanity item/glyph or one of the klaxxi daily quest debuffs
@Konuvis
@Konuvis 9 жыл бұрын
It made me think of a Xenogears mecha!
@Ferable29
@Ferable29 9 жыл бұрын
What addons do you use?
@Frantixx
@Frantixx 9 жыл бұрын
You're wrong about HoTW - NV is the way to go. You ONLY go HoTW when your raid leader ask you to, else it is a DPS loss.
@aidenpierce2928
@aidenpierce2928 9 жыл бұрын
First 20 sec is all is needed to know why balance by the way what's the song it ain't darude sandstorm
@Amehdion
@Amehdion 9 жыл бұрын
You "saved" your raid with Bear form + Heart of the wild on your boomkin? Really? I'm quite skeptical about that as even proper bear tanks cant "save" their raid most of the time lol. I mean MAYBE if you popped HoTW, Bear form, Barkskin, got 1 or 2 major mitigation CD's from your healers, and the were ready for you to take agro, you might get 10 seconds of tanking out of your boomkin. Just enough time to rez a real tank lol.
@richardjones8846
@richardjones8846 9 жыл бұрын
i think i pooped a little at the start of this video omg lol
@BlastHeart96
@BlastHeart96 9 жыл бұрын
What's the song from the opening?
@aceplayer555
@aceplayer555 9 жыл бұрын
Does Balance of Power refresh only the dots on your target, or all dots errwher?
@jbmorris10
@jbmorris10 9 жыл бұрын
only extends the dots on your target. starfire extends moonfire and wrath extends sunfire.
@BlowItOutYourAssXIII
@BlowItOutYourAssXIII 9 жыл бұрын
So you never mentioned hurricane, when do it use it? If at all.
@holocene7890
@holocene7890 9 жыл бұрын
BlowItOutYourAssXIII never because it's awful
@wackaflacka9625
@wackaflacka9625 9 жыл бұрын
The pull in the video is actually wrong. It works but it definitely isn't the best pull for max dps
@13ofus
@13ofus 9 жыл бұрын
still waiting for resto shaman video
@noontillnight
@noontillnight 9 жыл бұрын
Umm what happened to hurricane?
@Zarikk661
@Zarikk661 9 жыл бұрын
BoP is not better on maidens, there is enough movement where u are always refreshing dots anyway
@wyettmunro470
@wyettmunro470 9 жыл бұрын
whats the song at the beging called?
@ZpAuctu
@ZpAuctu 9 жыл бұрын
The correct name for the second boss in BRF is Ogre-George
@ZholikOW
@ZholikOW 9 жыл бұрын
Oreo Ogre
@ZholikOW
@ZholikOW 9 жыл бұрын
Or rolling fuckstain... whichever you prefer
@Lucaslbts
@Lucaslbts 9 жыл бұрын
His guides are for raids, right?
@emiliosaavedra6628
@emiliosaavedra6628 8 жыл бұрын
what's the song called?
@TargetSniper365
@TargetSniper365 9 жыл бұрын
Look at those 1 mil crits!!! What is your ilvl preach?!!!!????
@er3sh8
@er3sh8 9 жыл бұрын
those are lvl 85 dummies, so you do A LOT more dmg to them :P
@magicmuffin247
@magicmuffin247 9 жыл бұрын
Question: is it ever worth it to cast Astral Communion in combat?
@richardjones8846
@richardjones8846 9 жыл бұрын
the only time it would ever be appropriate to use it in combat would be if you're aoeing and your not 100% uptime on current dots to get more procs for starfall (which just doesn't happen)
@graymagicgamma7247
@graymagicgamma7247 9 жыл бұрын
Yes. If you absolutely NEED to pop your incarnation + trinket + celestial alignment RIGHT NOW and you're in solar (like if hero was just popped) use it to get to lunar. This way you get as many starfires out of your burst, which does so much more damage than wrath.
@richardjones8846
@richardjones8846 9 жыл бұрын
GameMasterGuy celestial alignment stops the eclipse and gives both empowerments, making it pointless where your bar is.
@Buggezzz
@Buggezzz 9 жыл бұрын
Richard Jones Not pointless. If you activate it in solar eclipse and use starsurge it gives you the wrath buff, not starfire buff which is really important for damage.
@richardjones8846
@richardjones8846 9 жыл бұрын
TheBugge96 yeah but you're going to using cooldowns like that when you need to swap over, you start lunar and will have enough time to wait for a lunar if you're prepping for hero phase.. potion is 20 seconds on use, hero is 40 seconds. solar doesn't last 9-10 seconds :|
@wackaflacka9625
@wackaflacka9625 9 жыл бұрын
Also 2 target dps star fall > starsurge
@clemensdittmann7050
@clemensdittmann7050 9 жыл бұрын
Can someone PLEASE make a 10h mix of the first seconds?^^
@Bievahh
@Bievahh 9 жыл бұрын
so why was Preach calling the guided stars glyph a shit glyph or something along those lines. I'm a noob that is why I ask lol
@SteissTheMan
@SteissTheMan 9 жыл бұрын
Stat priority? :D
@TheCasuality
@TheCasuality 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Preach, nice vid! Could you please make a vid who you tell why the fuck people need scrolling combat text? Its cleaner without it and i really believe no one need this mess
@vvvictorr
@vvvictorr 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone think that they should change the direction of the tauren booms horns? They should make them like the feral druids or bears
@dum1127
@dum1127 8 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Nein99x
@Nein99x 9 жыл бұрын
Whats the Name of the Song in the Intro?
@Ardcool96
@Ardcool96 9 жыл бұрын
Boundless by Aero Chord
@Zer0Hour17
@Zer0Hour17 9 жыл бұрын
I absolutely can't stand playing Boomkin this expac. I despise not having complete control over my character and the change to eclipse has destroyed my interest in the class. Not to say they aren't powerful, I just can't stand playing it.
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 9 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, 100%. I LOVE the Boomie, but with the Eclipse change... it's horrid and I hate it so much.
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 9 жыл бұрын
I swapped to Elem Shaman
@achterhetnet
@achterhetnet 9 жыл бұрын
I actually found the change to eclipse to be my return to the boomkin. I tried one out in MoP, and it just felt clunky and just punishing to play in general.
@harley7601
@harley7601 9 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me how he got Tellmewhen to track his eclipse bar???
@harley7601
@harley7601 9 жыл бұрын
bump
@sblade777
@sblade777 9 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's Pitbull Unit Frames
@MaximumBooger
@MaximumBooger 9 жыл бұрын
Might be weak auras+scripting as well.
@harley7601
@harley7601 9 жыл бұрын
I figured it out, you just track the spell cooldown for moonfire AND sunfire for the same box. Leave custom textures alone and you have it
@harley7601
@harley7601 9 жыл бұрын
This is for the moonfire/sunfire tellmewhen that switches when you enter lunar and solar on the eclipse bar.
@graog123
@graog123 9 жыл бұрын
Terrible advice right off the bat. Don't tell people to only care about which side their eclipse bar is on and not where their eclipse bar is, it's the best way to eek out more damage especially since we stack Mastery
@DonPatch97
@DonPatch97 9 жыл бұрын
Please fix boomkin blizzard, been pvping it for 3 seasons and you decide to make it less complex than affliction lock?? Why???
@crazyginger011
@crazyginger011 9 жыл бұрын
what about stats
@RNS_Aurelius
@RNS_Aurelius 9 жыл бұрын
I can't play a moonkin without glyph of stars
@elvesrus
@elvesrus 9 жыл бұрын
I would have agreed in MoP, but with glyph of the flapping owl...
@gundar95
@gundar95 9 жыл бұрын
noobkin amiright bois
@rhyspatterson7936
@rhyspatterson7936 9 жыл бұрын
anyone know what guild he plays on?
@ZKrinny
@ZKrinny 9 жыл бұрын
Stark Industries, its his own community guild
@Blazingwheel
@Blazingwheel 9 жыл бұрын
Gawd Tauren has by far the worst Moonkin form out of all the races those big feet >.
@bodaciusf
@bodaciusf 9 жыл бұрын
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