Balance Druid War Within Changes Announced!!!

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[@corwen]

Came here for the boomkin changes, stayed for Bert.

[@Neofoxie]

Huh .. how is the survability fixed at all with this new tree ? We did loose some passive DR and some tools we had in DF, the new point for 10% stam in bear is literaly the second point of Ursine vigor that got removed and we need to sale our sister to get access to +10% dr only during the window we already did not have problem surviving ? How is it not just worse ? +Do not tell me it's because we now have tools in the hero talent tree, some classes that already had no problem surviving at all also received ways of surviving through the trees, +the 3% Magic dr from elune chosen is just +1% in reality due to thick hide loosing 2%

[@faldarith]

I appreciate your content and perspective.

[@ScarieWOW]

Thx for the vid! Wish we would have gotten to seen the keeper of the grove stuff. I get you dont like it but would like to see it in a rotation or something =)

[@ibMoose2u]

Thanx Tettles!

[@intrinsc]

Tettles with the beard hits different

[@attinger117]

Did you try lunar calling and what did you think of that playstyle?

[@Sebleh]

I feel like Fluid Form will help for bear form swaps. Going back from bear form after defensive use or activating Moonkin form after stealthing by just casing is one less global and frankly minimal but still less downtime. The survivability changes are really good and hopefully it’s enough for high end gameplay without requiring the Keeper of the Grove self-Regrowth defensive (which is just weird tbh). Not sure what to think of the Incarn duration nerfs. Blizz said it’s easier to balance without pulsar and with a shorter duration so I guess we’ll see how that works out.

[@BrandonFreeck]

Nice beard mate, looks great

[@Trunka34]

Still an issue with aoe magic damage when barkskin is down..unless a new expansion means they can rework our base mitigation.??

[@manannan3]

TETTLES can you check if treants of the moon in the keeper of the grove tree applies moonfires upon cast of force of nature and whether they work with twin moons please!

[@Jimmys-rw6fn]

We've had touch of the cosmos before right? Was it a legion legendary?

[@kalasmournrex1470]

Yay, cyclone moved to a non-stupid spot. Should just be baseline, though. Still think Convoke should be a class tree capstone. Just get rid of Nature’s Vigil.

[@Arghishable]

I have only seen the 1st iteration of the tree, feel like this one is way more interesting. Still centered around Fury of Elune, with lots of it spawning / CDR but more interesting things to build in the Balance tree itself with some nice QOL in the general druid tree Got me excited for War Within where the 1st time I saw the talents I was not thinking about coming back because I need to play my balance druid that I main since Vanilla

[@lalalala9734]

are we missing the feral one or will there be no feral one?

[@itsmrvance]

Hey Tettles. I really enjoy the fantasy of Keeper of the Grove, as do many others, but agree with your sentiment that Force of Nature just doesn't feel like a major or functional part of the moonkin kit. How do you feel about changing Trees to be a better or more involved part of the kit?

[@Tettles]

Yeah I mean if there was a rework that made them a more serious part of the kit it would make sense. I'm sure as you're aware it's jsut an issue with the button you're pressing to activate that hero talent is so bad.

[@itsmrvance]

@@Tettles 100%. I just hope that that is the message developers are seeing and that it isn't scrapped, unlike the first version of Oracle which was disliked from both a mechanical and flavor perspective. I like the idea of keeper but will be pretty sad if it doesn't get some changes so it isn't just based around a button that doesn't do much of anything for the spec. Appreciate your reply!

[@Tettles]

@@itsmrvance Having played it a bit, it's slightly less bad than anticipated. I think Cenarius' Might is atrocious, but I think the AP Gen from it and 140AP pool is very sick.

[@khoitrieu]

Fluid forms is also a decent buff to druid of the claw but unfortunately it forces feral druids to put two points into lore of the grove, which is completely useless for feral

[@RuneFToftlund]

Wish they brought back Hysteria for Druid instead of Swarm

[@lalalala9734]

every time i see the talent "starsurge" it really pisses me off idk why we HAVE to take this talent when its one of our MAIN abilites i dont understand. i play warrior, hunter and druid. idk any other classes that on the left tree it has their main ability. balance druid needs to have that talent already built in. unless im missing something idk why no one gets livid with this like i do also "improved sunfire" also pisses me off

[@Sebleh]

Starsurge is baseline for balance Druids. You can check at any point during the video that the talent doesn’t have a (1) on it just like Starfire that is baseline as well.

[@morgenmuffel5747]

Glad they removed Pulsar. Hopefully the play is Orbital Strike so that we can be on a 2 min cd

[@jakubmazur668]

Glad they removed the one mechanic the class had that made it interesting ?

[@martelmagic97]

Not a very popular take

[@barial1]

Stellar Amplification's going to suck in aoe if its good enough to take. It's going to feel real bad starsurging in aoe every 5s to maintain that buff

[@vularo4770]

can we talk about incap roar?: why has a class that is based around dots and bleeds an CC that breaks instant on dots? it should be more like dragonsbreath from mage, that only breaks on direct hits. you cant even cast cyclone on incap roar because it breaks before you even start the cast

[@BrandASDGamings]

Can they just make CA 1min cd

[@palfotta]

Will druids need to use cancelaura macros again or the 1handed monkeys at Blizzard could solve this issue? (just sarcasm they actually dont have any hands at all :D)

[@kyle_xii]

everytime i see u, u have a different hairstyle

[@NY-qb5bq]

I play Orbital right now.... lol Only way to catch up to Tank dps..... if not used...you will be below a tank dps at the end of a fight. Moonkin and Ferald druid set and ramp is so lame. Why cant moonkin get a better aoe rotation.... having to cast starfire and see how fkin long my arms is in the air is so tiring......

[@Kyukon-038]

I'm not a fan of all these 5 second proc buffs and similar things. Return of streaking stars when?

[@teej143]

The fact that one of your immediate reactions is to create at least 5 new weak auras to be effective makes me CRINGE. The fact that you dont like treants on principle by default, as a druid, is CRINGE. I respect that you enjoy making spreadsheets and "optimizing", but gosh, that is the most cringe WoW experience. Jesus.

[@martelmagic97]

By far one of the lamest takes I've heard to date

[@Athenaia_Solork]

Idk what you expected coming to a channel where the owner dooes high end pve content. It's like you went to a Taylor Swift show and got mad that she didn't sing your fav metallica song