Baldur’s Gate 3 | OVERPOWERED Dark Ranger | Gloomstalker / Assassin / Druid Multiclass Guide

[@MarkusAndersen96]

not me jumping to 9:23 and hearing "it's just so amazing when we come!"

[@ingolf82]

lvl 1: Rogue-2:Ranger-3:Ranger-4:Ranger (gloomstalker)-5:Ranger (feat: Sharpshooter)-6:Ranger-7:Rogue-8:Rogue (assassin)-9:Rogue (feat: Alert)-9:rogue-10:rogue-11:Rogue-12:Rogue. So 7 levels of rogue assassin and 5 of Gloomstalker ranger. You could take away 2 levels of rogue and go 2 levels of fighter for action surge as well. This spec here is very powerful and you always get to go first, meaning you get to sometimes kill an enemy before they even had their turn. The reason you start with rogue is for that sneak attack. if you spec into it later, you don't get it.

[@charlesbryson7443]

I like that you aren’t potion scumming to min/max. It’s a single player game, the point is a journey. Not a faceroll every single encounter.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea that’s how I feel man. It just feels so wrong in an rpg like this to just dump one stat completely and get carried by potions / elixirs and dominate the game…takes everything out of it for me.

[@xalenthas]

I think it's worth pointing out a specific benefit of the "Heavy Armour" option of Ranger Knight is not necessarily about the Chest armour (which may scuff your stealth checks), it's for helms (Grymskull), gloves and legs, etc.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea absolutely, I like that it gives the option and you can get crit immunity from those awesome gear pieces!

[@travisproo87]

That's a really good point, actually

[@PaulRGauthier]

You don't get any special benefit from wearing two peices of anti-crit armour and you can craft medium armour at the forge. Depends on your comp, but forging one of each kind of armour is usually the best use of the forge.

[@ape8572]

not trying to bash, but the grymskull helm is the only "accessory" that is heavy armor, no other boots or gloves require it

[@platypus547]

One thing to note is that odd numbers do matter for STR for carry weight. Just for QOL, I'd just change WIS from 11 to 10 and bump STR from 12 to 13. Whenever you have an extra point not doing anything, just put into STR for QOL.

[@Mdntech3000]

Great to bring attention to, thanks!

[@PaulRGauthier]

That's so obvious, you're a genius to notice it!

[@layo8975]

Yeah, but its not only STR, Charisma (as its my understanding, so not totaly sure) also gets a little thing on odd levels, because they make trading a bit more efficient. TLDR: Never get odd lLevels in anything that wouldnt be changed to an even level later, but if you have one left take Str but on you trading Character an extra level in Charisma can be nice too.@@Mdntech3000

[@cmdaltctr]

All the good stuff we will get when we're just hours away from ending the game lol. This game terribly needs a new game plus.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea I agree, it kind of just feels like it’s a general problem with crpgs where as soon as you get super powerful and the character build pays off you only have a limited time to feel it.

[@xalenthas]

I'm with you in that I much prefer builds that don't begin with a min/max mindset and do not just dump stats for expediency. That said, it helps [a lot], when it's a dexterity based class :)

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea absolutely helps a ton! I do wonder what this game would look like if there were similar elixirs that increased dex or charisma for example.

[@alloftheexperts2111]

I had so much fun with this build during one of my first Durge playthroughs. Especially notable is the Deathstalker Mantle which I believe is only attainable in the Durge campaign. Once I received that reward this build went to a whole new level. The utility on that is absolutely disgusting.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea that’s a durge only item, it really is incredible when it comes to builds like this.

[@ravenfh3704]

Hi, I'm currently playing a similar build in Dark urge lone wolf run, I'm just starting chapter 3 I'm ranger5/assassin5. I use the Titanstring Bow with strength potion, Caustic Band, sharpshooter and dex 20 for a flat bonus of +22. For the gloves and the second ring I favor dice bonuses like the Dark Justiciar Gauntlets (+1D4 necrotic) and the Strange Conduit Ring (+1D4 psy). Because during critical hits, these dice bonuses are doubled unlike flat values. For the upgraded crit at the moment I have the Knife of the Undermountain King and the Dark Justiciar Helmet. Once Orin is defeated, I will equip myself like you, however I will keep my dark urge cloak, because it makes me invisible when killing an enemy without using a bonus action and therefore I can use my bonus action to dash and activate Lightning Charges with The Speedy Lightfeet (more damage and hit chance). I was thinking of switching to warrior2/ranger5/asasssin5 once max lvl, but your video made me want to try druid. THANKS.

[@Mdntech3000]

That’s amazing and damage wise nothing compares to using str elixirs with gear like titanstring or baldurans - pretty much scaling your damage to insane heights! Awesome build!

[@aaronsmithey4044]

I love this Build for GloomStalker! My true Assassin build is Level 11 Assassin is super strong. 6d6 sneak attack (sharpshooter,GWmaster,Sentinal) Finesse LongSword is a 2 handed sneak attack. First lvl in War Cleric for reasons.

[@amerant0205]

Yea that sounds awesome and I really want to explore a build like this...a lot of people are sleeping on Sneak Attack - that 6d6 is AMAZING!

[@Bruno-lr9lm]

@@amerant0205 6D6 ain't that bad, it's 36 added damage if you hit max roll. On average you're gonna do what? 21 damage sneak attack PER turn. it's not bad but really sub optimal when you consider classes with even just 1 extra attack like paladin who can give 2 smites that mostly shit on SA or even warlock that can hit 3 beams of EB on a single target are gonna do more damage than a rogue with SA bonus damage, the mechanic has been badly integrated into this game unfortunately. i'd say some people over value the effectiveness of SA, it's a cool play style don't get me wrong, but the damage it does is okish and certainly far from impressive. Larian should do something about it, if you could do it on each attack, yeah now you're talking but per turn, hell nah, the return you get from investing all your 12 levels on this is way too poor.

[@Mdntech3000]

No absolutely agree, 6d6 is AMAZING. In my other video you see I pretty much based my build a lot around maximizing sneak attack…it’s super underrated. It’s pretty ouch “mini smites” with no resource needed! Yea it’s one a turn…and yea it doesn’t match other ways of generating big damage, but it really gets its value by not needing any resource beside advantage compared to needing spell slots.

[@Bruno-lr9lm]

@@Mdntech3000 I’ve tried a full assassin rogue, no multiclass, and it was the most underwhelming experience thus far. The times I could one shot a 65 ish health enemy or just kill two enemies in one turn were kinda rare (while warlock would totally shit on SA with EB without expending any spell slots either). Yes, it’s good for hit and run tactics but I personally didn’t see the max damage of the 6D6 that often. I mostly did between 12 and 28 SA damage most of the time which is ok at best and nothing to write home about. if you fully invest all your levels in rogue just for SA it’s value ain’t that good. Just my opinion and personal experience with the class and SA in general, for me it was mostly disappointing. I, however, do like to have a character that has SA in my party because the gameplay is fun and it’s pretty useful to get rid of the squishies before the big guns (Wyll and my bardadin) go to work on the heavies and other priority targets after the first strike of the rogue. It’s a really good second in command for sure.

[@Mdntech3000]

@Bruno-lr9lm thanks man, I really appreciate the testing and response, great information!

[@cabbage_cat]

I did not expect that druid dip, very nice 👍 Your explanation is also easy to follow

[@Mdntech3000]

No problem! Thanks for the comment.

[@tehlewlz]

Nah theres only 1 way to play gloomsin and thats with paladin for spicy auto smites on crit , Also half orc, savage attacker and ASI, obviously dual wielding melee finesse weapons because well youre a rogue

[@Mdntech3000]

Sounds awesome man! I love the idea of getting those auto smite crits! I also think savage attacker is super underrated.

[@ss45034567]

this is the best channel ever, thank you for the hard work!!!!!!!

[@Mdntech3000]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@travisauruss]

Just a heads up two attack is a class level 5 feature not overall level feature 🤟🏼. So 4 rogue 1 ranger won’t give ya two attack. Gotta hit 5 ranger, fighter, etc.

[@thechuck141]

Something might be cool is a ranger monk up close mellee then ranger for some range I suck at understanding all these die rolls so these build help is D&D noobs out.

[@Cleptomancer]

Starting out I like to go one level Rogue, then take Ranger to 6 before going assassin. This way I get access to Heavy Armor, Long Strider, Fog Cloud(for stealing in), Disguise self, & invisibility by level 4. Worth trading out for auto Crits Imo

[@jimmyj1548]

This build is awesome dude! Question surely a 2 level dip into fighter for action surge would be even better than the druid dip no?

[@Mdntech3000]

Absolutely, I was going for a more thematic approach for this build compared to pure min maxing!

[@PaulRGauthier]

I'm such a nerd that after watching this I went into BG3 and made Sylvanus Windrunner. Or as close as I could, it's an interpretation :)

[@Mdntech3000]

Hahah awesome man I love the theme of the character!

[@spamfilter32]

2 other possibilities, i stead of taking Druid, you can take 2 lvls in Fighter for Action Surge to get 1 additional atrack in, or you can take 2 lvl's in Warlock (but NOT for the reason you are thinking) so you can get Beguiling Influence and Devils Sight. (No Eldritch blasting at all!). That way, you can pop a Darkness and get perma advantage on your enemies, or a way to escape if you really need to. Another fun thi g with this build is that you are the ultimate Skill Monkey adding your proficiency bonus to 2 skills from your class, 2 from your back geound, 2 from Beguiling Influence, 1 from being human, 1 from multi Rogue, 1 from multi Ranger, and possibly 2 more from Ranger favored enemy and Natural Explorer. That is 11 skills you can be proficient in! You don't need to worry about strength for carrying and jumping in this build because you have unlimited Enhanced Leaps and being human gives you +20% carry weight, and Karlach or the camp chest for the rest.

[@RagaSwagaUK]

half orc doesnt do anything for ranged attacks - savage attacker is only melee weapons

[@fiveforbiting]

This looks very strong, but more importantly, fun. The most fun I've had so far, was Dark Justiciar build with Astarion as a Shadow Monk-6/Gloomstalker-6. Gives up extra damage and sneak atk, but shadow teleportation is amazing fun in/out of combat.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea I recently re visited my dark justiciar themed build. Lot of discussion in the comments from those videos and I really love the idea of shadow monk being incorporated in a dark justiciar build. It makes too much sense!

[@mekseg]

For a level 12 character, 4 Gloomstalker Ranger + 3 Thief Rogue + 6 Fighter with double Hand Crossbows and Sharpshooter is definitely more OP than this build. If you have Haste / Potion of speed, you will have 9 shots in the first round, with 4 Superiority Die shots that deal additional 1d8 damage and will Disarm / Knock Down enemies at your will, as well as Sneak Attack damage bonus from Rogue class (you can get a ring that gives you Advantage all the time). If you start with 1 hit with a Orin weapon, that makes target get x2 damage from Hand Crossbows, you will have 8 shots left with double damage and all of the above-mentioned stuff. So in total you can deal from 300-500 damage with just 1 turn of just 1 character...

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea it’s crazy and double hand crossbows def the way to go if you want to min max.

[@bentmercer]

Gloomstalker 5, thief 4, battlemaster 3 is a lot of fun. Use the +3 bow for atealth gameplay, or the two good hand crossbows for bigger damage.

[@Mdntech3000]

Definitely a lot of fun! Love the damage dual crossbows brings!

[@davequaschnick2559]

I would think couple lvls on fighter at the end. another +2 archery another action............However that Druid Cat sure cam go a lot of places......... Just be careful damn near blew myself back to Lloth a couple times

[@Mdntech3000]

Lmao the lloth part cracked me up..yea this isn’t the most optimal build but more of a “fun” loreful take / style.

[@toondemaere3080]

Yeah Gloomstalker Assassin is very good. I would also think about adding 2 levels in fighter just for action surge. But then again maybe it's not needed because you're already doing so much damage lol

[@Mdntech3000]

Ya a lot of different ways to build it, this was more of a thematic build instead of pure optimized version

[@acavaglia]

Nice build man i always wante to try rogue assassin and i never got the chance ... maybe this one will be the one :) But since you are a bow user and hate elixirs i have a different option for you that i'm using on my controller bard. there is a spacial chair on top of the arcane tower in the underdark which i didn't pay much of attention since it is on the ground like every other usless thing in that place. If you manage to make your character sit on it you will see some strange sentence like "I feel very powerful now" and when they stand up "And the power is gone". Well it's a Hill Giant chair and if you brake it you can use it as a club in 1 hand with light property and set your STR to 19. So what about that Titan String bow now? i feel it GIANTLY STRONG in my hands ( xD ), even if i don't mind using elixirs i still prefer the bloodlust one for my archer ;)

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea that’s another great option to build a range character! Definitely a cool way to go about it. Hahah STRONG!!!!

[@acavaglia]

@@Mdntech3000 hahaha a STRONG way to do it indeed xD

[@yellabwoy1834]

I 100% agree with your comment on stacking potions ect. I think it’s lame af and has no flavor. It might be “powerful” but it’s just the same ol same ol. I refuse to build a character that way…its just boring and unimaginative

[@Mdntech3000]

I gotcha man…just really kills the whole idea of making a build when the core of a build is potions…just takes me out of it too.

[@Twiztedthugz121]

Where did you go from from Half-elf race, to High Half-elf subrace, and not show a High elf cantrip, to class rouge to background acolyte, without any explanation?! Your video doesn't show anything besides something jumbled around.

[@Mdntech3000]

Race isn’t a core part of the build. Cantrips aren’t relevant for the build either. Just go with whatever race you want. There’s no point to spend time going over races in detail on a build video, where race just isn’t really a factor tbh.

[@toddparker514]

I did 5. Assassin 4 gloom stalker and then 3 paladin vengeance for vow of enmity to have advantage on all attacks for 10 rounds its fun.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea that sounds awesome and strong too.

[@neon9152]

Thank you for a build that is still strong without elixir abuse. I do however want to play into the ranger theme of special arrows and using alchemy to craft my own potions, do you think arrows would hurt or help this build?

[@Mdntech3000]

Definitely help, that sounds like an awesome build. Love the alchemist flavor.

[@veiregor]

You believe hunter is better if you have the game modded with 100% hp and such, or GS is still better?

[@Mdntech3000]

That’s tough, but probably hunter if increasing enemy HP since early rounds won’t be as dominant and fights will last longer making hunter better.

[@MattDoesLife539]

How do you even wear medium armor? Rogue can only use light.

[@Mdntech3000]

Hunter gives you access to medium armor.

[@devilkid6947]

Can you make a lore accurate dark urge build???

[@Mdntech3000]

That’s a great idea! I’ll see what I can do

[@devilkid6947]

@@Mdntech3000 SWEET

[@JoseConQueso94]

Preferably a warlock build of some sort or sorclock

[@sniderdg8727]

Good guide, but you should add what weapons and armor you can use from act 1.

[@Mdntech3000]

That’s a good idea thanks!

[@Vietnow15]

Great vid My BardLock owns the darkness as well

[@jonnyso1]

Wow, I really suck at this game.

[@Mdntech3000]

Why say that 😢

[@Thomasnmi]

It is a complex game with a steep learning curve

[@treljaengo]

Drude? lmao. Someone teach this man how to say druid.

[@Mdntech3000]

Wow

[@Monty2289]

lmao "We're not crti fishing but here's all of this gear for crit fishing"

[@Mdntech3000]

There’s really not many other options for increasing damage in those slots. Could go other defensive options but no point since were a ranged class. No champion, no elixir of viciousness. Really not crit fishing at all, like I said use whatever gear you want!

[@pandoraeeris7860]

Alert/Sharpshooter

[@dallinadams9422]

These are definitely best when going solo, when you can repeatedly end and start combat. What I love is going melee with the shadow blade. Then you just have to carry around the resonance stone to give your enemies weakness to psychic, that way you can almost guarantee vulnerability crit and vulnerability. Definitely a lot harder when you run into enemies with alert though, or immunity to psychic

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea it definitely shines in that aspect. That’s a sick way to play, I really think it’s so damn cool too.

[@jameskelsea6048]

Rogue is so strong for solo play. stacking sneak attack is very under rated - it also doubles on crit. So 9-11 levels in Rogue is one of my favorite play styles with the titan bow. Shadow monk is also great. The BA shadow step is amazing for positioning. They can be a good multiclass 7 shadow monk / 5 Rogue assassin, or even go 6/4/ with 2 fighter for more attacks. Sword bard with titan string bow / rogue assassin is also amazing. 6 swords / 4 rogue / 2 fighter gets you 9 titan bow attacks first turn using slashing flourish ranged.

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea it’s crazy how much damage it can do, definitely very powerful when it’s built around. All great options that you listed and really enjoyed reading it!

[@scottmiddleton7430]

Great build and perfect timing as I am attempting to build something similar. Question: Why longbow over dual hand crossbows, since the damage adds will also improve offhand damage?

[@Mdntech3000]

I only go longbow for “lore” reason. I like the idea of an ranger archer build using a bow. Hand crossbows are WAY BETTER!

[@scottmiddleton7430]

Gotcha and I agree. That’s why I went with a Duergar. Dual x-bows seems to fit. 😅

[@VulcanLogic]

1:20 Half-orc doesn't work with ranged anyway. It's specifically melee crits that are affected, not ranged. The elves are quite good for the stealth and perception skills and wood elves in particular for the extra movement, but the best class is lightfoot halfling for the advantage on stealth checks and lucky. This combo will lead to a lot more attacks than the extra 5' of movement. Aesthetically not the best, particularly for romances, so I'm only playing halfling because there's three of us grouping up and only one gets a companion. But it's quite nice on the dice.

[@Mdntech3000]

That’s an awesome observation and def makes a lot of damn sense! Not the most aesthetic true but yea. That sounds like an awesome group though.

[@VulcanLogic]

@@Mdntech3000Yeah it's a sweet group. Me playing your ranger build basically, one friend on a bardadin build, one on a cleric/wizard (mystic theurge build), and of course, Karlach as a berserker, just because she's so cool.

[@noden1739]

If you dont scum with titanstring then what bow did you use until act 3?

[@Mdntech3000]

Act 2 bow I used a good amount.

[@casadogaspar]

4 Ranger + 8 Fighter champion

[@Mdntech3000]

Absolutely works great, plus getting extra feats is amZing.

[@vampiregoat69]

Stealth in Bg3 sucks complete ass I was hidden 20 feet from bad guy who was NOT facing me and no one else around and he spotted me just for being on the map. O had a +22 to hide and get spotted ALL THE TIME no matter what

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea it seems very bugged at times lol

[@blacklake13]

"Circlet of Hunting" (very rare) is good for this.

[@Mdntech3000]

It absolutely is! Very good helm that can compete with reducing crit range.

[@lagsense2945]

Hey! I have a question about Crimson Mischief. After testing for a while on my build, I found that Redvein Savagery (flat 7 pierce dmg bonus from Crimson Mischief) doesn't work on ranged attacks. To be precise I think it only works on attacks made using Crimson Mischief. I tested this using the hiding mechanic and the risky ring to gain advantage and it simply doesnt trigger. So, how did you get it to work on your build? Or is this simply an oversight?

[@Mdntech3000]

I remember my combat log showing it working when I did the testing..it was definitely an older patch so that must of been what it was. Damn, just replace it then with a different weapon!

[@Mdntech3000]

Thanks for the info!

[@lagsense2945]

Tbh I dont really understand why it's not working. Because the wording on the ability never specified that it only activates when using Crimson Mischief to attack. So either this is a bug or this is done intentionally by Larian as a nerf.

[@Mdntech3000]

@lagsense2945 yea I could of swore it was working while I did my testing…could of been a bug that was recently fixed. Wording does dictate it should work but o well..

[@christopherrocco56]

That said though, nice damage boost on the Druid cheese

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea it’s nice, it was hard to finger out a dark / undead theme to this build without comprising the entire thing.

[@drchaos2000]

love the build but i never can justify it on my main character when astarion is just perfect for this

[@Mdntech3000]

Yea I gotcha, makes sense tbh and it fits him so well.

[@benkelly7182]

I’ve always just killed him

[@Thomasnmi]

​@@benkelly7182hate that character.😊

[@alfarabi73]

Is longbow better than dual wielding handbows?

[@Mdntech3000]

Nope dual hand bows much better

[@Thomasnmi]

You lose a bit of range

[@obergruppenfuhrersang-froi8203]

You lost me at the druid multiclass.

[@Mdntech3000]

Spice it up a bit lol

[@liacastillo7]

GREAT VIDEO!! 🔥🔥

[@christopherrocco56]

I mean I don't like the critique other people's build guides but there was one part that was kind of annoying when you start talking about people abusing strength elixirs as if there's something wrong with that and then in the same breath say that you're going to take two levels of sport Druid just to get in a little extra damage, in my brain cells I'm screaming what the f*** is the difference?? I think you made the argument that people just use strength as a dumpster and then use the strength elixirs to offset damage but you don't have to do that to still out DPS the bill that you have going on here. On my first playthrough I didn't know that the strength Elixir is actually lasted until a long rest, which would have made a whole host of combats a hell of a lot easier, but I ended up doing five levels of Ranger 3 levels of fighter with the champion subclass and four levels of Rogue and I didn't even go assassin I just went for the Strait of thief for the extra bonus action and I could walk into 90% of the fights and end them with just my main character and not even have to touch the other characters within one or two rounds. I know that assassin does automatic crits and you restore your action but with two hand crossbows I was one shot in the vast majority of the ads and I didn't have to worry about whether or not I was going to turn invisible hide get out of combat jump back into combat re-establish the the assassination Procand then just go back in there and kill shiit again, I could just walk right in there in the combat half the time I didn't even get to sneak attack damage and then I would just kill the ads with just my main character. That extra bonus action from just being a regular Thief with a hand crossbows is broken assassination Broken. Anyway, my original point though still stands, I don't know how you're going to tell people that it's cheese to go in and use the strength of lectures which are in the game and then go and do you have two levels into Druid just to get out a little bit of extra necrotic damage I don't see the difference. Oh, am I a bill didn't even have a high strength I dumped it down to eight and I didn't even use the elixirs because I didn't know about that little bit of cheese until literally the last battle

[@HansGuru-bb8iq]

Bla bla bla bla bla. Next time summarize your text better and dont go on for ages about things that dont have anything to do with the topic like your thief character, maybe then i will spend tje time to read your comment

[@Mdntech3000]

Tbh using an elixir as a “build” feature is pretty cheesy, everyone acknowledges and agrees it completely breaks the game…if you look at my Lockadin build, imagine doing that with str elixir / baldurans you’ll be doing 50 minimum dmg each attacks. Are you really comparing dumping str, using a str elixir to get to 27 (+8 bonus) to dipping into a class for a thematic 1d6? Cmon man, one COMPLETELY breaks the game, the other is a way to BUILD a character. And for two handed crossbows, yes it’s broken and better than this…of course it’s gonna be but like all my other builds I try to create character based, lore appropriate, thematic and fun builds that don’t just completely break the game or destroy the immersion for me. Tactician difficulty just isn’t hard and not needed…also it’s funny that they actually did patch the dual crossbows benefitting from dex without investment in the patch today. Overall good write up, I know a lot of people get annoyed when you call something “cheesy”..I actually talk about the whole elixir use as a “build enabler” in another video, going as far to admit that in a dungeons and dragons campaign - you use any available tool to your advantage! So it is what it is. Excellent write up!

[@freezax4]

Howcto build things incorrectly lol 😂😂