Baldur's Gate 4 is a nope... BUT how about an RPG to "dwarf them all"

[@WolfheartFPS]

MORE UPDATED NEWS!!! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHuVXpl7fLWXa8U Sven said this has nothing to do with WotC by the way AND ALSO according to IGN's interview with Swen, it's not going to be DOS4 next. Here is the article - www.ign.com/articles/larian-started-work-on-baldurs-gate-3-dlc-then-canceled-it-the-studio-was-elated

[@Harry_S._Plinkett]

I don’t really buy that. I think he’s just trying to keep things professional while doing what he feels is best for his people, which I have a lot of respect for.

[@isakri9459]

@@Harry_S._Plinkett lmao how dense can you be?

[@Harry_S._Plinkett]

@@isakri9459 I’m pretty dense on most days, but I stand by my statement. WotC has a horrible reputation for a reason. Swen said his people were relieved to hear they were moving on from D&D, despite this being a passion project with plans for dlc. WotC had a history of treating Larian’s contacts within the company like dogshit. What else am I supposed to take away from this? Maybe I am wrong, but to me this situation screams of someone trying to distance themselves from a company without burning any bridges.

[@candrian7]

I'm happy with this. BG3 has not only put Larian into the big leagues but its also put the RPG genre back to the top

[@Thilain562]

From the sound of it, they're planning a triple A project within their own IP so they can flex their creative freedom without any constraints which sound absolutely fantastic.

[@sm0ky12]

As long as they ease up on the floor effects from divinity

[@ragvald8835]

​@@sm0ky12Early in bg3 ea, floor effects was on par with divinity, but then they tuned it down significantly - so I guess they figured those aren't as fun as they'd like.

[@JoeyCentral]

Is Divinity like BG3 gameplay wise? I might end up getting it if they are similar.

[@RM_3D]

@@JoeyCentral some what similar, turn based tactical.

[@HH-hd7nd]

@@sm0ky12Well that's up to the players in Early Access. In BG3 they made good use of Early Access and really listened to player feedback.

[@j.r.hawkins3098]

I'm fine with this. WOTC is notoriously difficult to work with, and I hope they are embracing their own IP of Divinity and can deliver something on the same level as BG3, if not something even better!

[@katarinakremberg1319]

A DLC in Avernus would probably mean confronting Zariel, I am not sure WOtC would approve of that.

[@legitdragon6202]

WOTC, typical "you should be grateful for the opportunity to be our customer" attitude

[@That_guy_131]

Blizzards of the coast

[@mufasafalldown8401]

100% Run for the Hills Larian!

[@ghostsdragon9222]

@@katarinakremberg1319 i dont or maybe a dlc in the other halve of Baldurs gate that we can't enter

[@Morden97]

Swen seems like a dude that is always thinking like 100 steps ahead. What a leader man.

[@brilobox2]

Nah, just a guy who cares, is good at what he loves, and is surrounded by people who can’t stop shooting themselves in the foot.

[@jeanbiroute]

I was a playtester for BG3. Played for 2 weeks at Larians and I saw him every day. He asked tons of questions every day. Knows every single thing about it by heart. I was shocked to see we were going to have talks with the CEO of the game. I didn’t even think he would be involved in much. But he was there every end of the day for a briefing and he came to watch us play from time to time. This game is pretty much his baby

[@vitaminwater9662]

He just cares slightly more than others. Dont dickride ceos

[@chinaman1]

Ya'll praising him like he a God. He's definitely a good man, but let's keep the praises to a humble level.

[@jimmym3352]

@@chinaman1Certainly not at that level, but he has a good head on his shoulders it seems. Juggling all the aspects of a big game like that isn't easy. As we seen companies like Bethesda has been struggling at that recently. And doubtful Bioware could ever do anything like BG3 in the future. Intelligence matters.

[@TheRealThodin]

I am 99.99% certain this has to do with Hasbro / Wotc business practices and not the D&D IP itself. Larian is MUCH better off with their own IP. They get full creative control AND all of the profits.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

Yes this is exactly it.

[@t.t6294]

it's both. 5e is a terrible and restrictive system

[@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken]

Yup. Plus to make another D&D game they'd have to pay for the right again, on top of sharing the profits. They showed D&D fans what they're capable of, showed the GAMING COMMUNITY as a whole what they're capable of, and will now have that following most likely headed into the next game. So long as people aren't expecting necessarily EVERYTHING given to us in BG3 in the next game, and Don't overhype the game to unattainable heights, they will continue to do great.

[@NovelVanguard]

@@t.t6294I actually like the 5e system I find it better for people to get used to but that’s just me

[@SpaceDad42]

Wotc is too busy with their white male hating agenda to work with anyone who doesn’t use their pronouns.

[@menghandan]

damn … gotta say i’m not ready to say goodbye to BG3’s characters. but good on larian for staying true to themselves

[@legitdragon6202]

Yep, would have been nice to have an adaptation of some sort (personally would have loved a Curse of Strahd adaptation) but makes sense they want to grow their own IP and not become tethered to being essentially a 'D&D' company.

[@JoeyCentral]

The good news is WoTC has plans to continue these characters. So I am crossing my fingers hoping they give Minthara more love than Larian did in BG3 who felt quite incomplete.

[@TykoBrian7]

@@JoeyCentralgood luck with that.

[@corwyncorey3703]

@@JoeyCentral I honestly hope you are right... but knowing WotC and Hasbro, I *really* hope you bring your wallet. Gunna need it.

[@JoeyCentral]

@@corwyncorey3703 it’s not money that concerns me but quality. At this point they just have to keep the chsracter designs the way they are and voices the same or similar. That’s it. Larian did the heavy lifting, so all they have to do is just not fuck up.

[@marcuskane1040]

Sad news but totally understandable. Not only vast majority of people in WoTC, who helped Larian with BG3, were laid off but also that last Sven's speech about publishers points that it was extremely difficult to keep working with Hasbro at proper terms/pace. On a good note, I can't wait for their next game, no matter what setting they're gonna choose.

[@merideeketter2457]

With dos2 being my most favorite game I’ve ever played in my life… I really really hope for a dos3. It’s literally all I want before I die.

[@stevenwoodward5923]

Just turned 65 last year, your statement has special meaning to me

[@peterpanda6931]

Didn't care for the dos series at all (just not to my taste, but it's good that many people like it). I would therefore hope for something different. I'd be very happy with a vampires the masquerade RPG from them or something new entirely.

[@corwyncorey3703]

@@peterpanda6931 They are sticking to IPs they own themselves. BG3 served its purpose as massive advertising, development for the company, and raised more money than they expected. And with a world and lore they already own... what do *you* think they will do? I'll give you 3 guesses, and the first two don't count.

[@jitkajirikova5687]

So this is very sad news for me. Baldurs gate series is much better than DOS series and BG3 is a much better game than DOS2 and mainly went in the right direction. DOS3 doesn't have a chance to reach as big an audience as BG3, and I'm worried that DOS3 will be simplified in some ways compared to BG3 and not as deep. The fact that there will be no DLC for BG3 is also a shame, because only max level 12 is simply not enough for such a game and we were left without the best skills and spells.

[@PietKargaard]

I like the combat better in DOS 2 but that dosent make bg3 combat bad at all. i have playeed through DOS2 6times and only 1 full playthrough of BG3

[@thebeatts]

It's a hard pill to swallow, but at the same time, it's impossible to justify asking them for more than they've already given. Once they continue their plans to add full mod support and the other updates and improvements they have in the pipeline, I'm confident BG3 will be left in a very good place to occupy for the rest of time, with modders left to work their magic and make it a sandbox to play in for the next decade+, just like Skyrim before it. We're all lucky we got to be alive to experience this masterpiece in its whole. Thank you Larian.

[@SuDzD]

Larian: This is it Modders: No this is only the beginning

[@ApexusTime]

My guess is they will make it moddable - just like they said - and then dip out and leave the rest to the pationate and skillfull craftsmen of the modder scene. i imagine its only a matter of time for Full custom story and level mods pop up like in skyrim. It will be glorious.

[@alisaforster28691]

Imagine a own standaline campaign editor. The opportunities would be endless. Bg2 remake, etc.

[@JoeyCentral]

I hope they can make an overhaul similar to how modders for Archthrones and Convergence overhauled Dark Souls 3.

[@krisvandewalle5560]

tower defence in bg3 :) wil love it

[@SuDzD]

@@ApexusTime Imagine if Bg3 voice actors teamed up with modders to continue the story

[@chrisspellman5952]

I really would have liked to see Upper Baldur's Gate and Avernus. There's so many scrapped story lines and ideas I would have loved to see. The beta version had so much story and made long-rests really more interesting than just being a minor speed bump with a story element every now and then.

[@ElderSnowball]

Are things like that certain to not return? I mean i wouldn’t really say that’s dlc. They did say they will continue to add cinematic scenes so I can only hope that includes scrapped camp scenes

[@superkawaii792]

We can still hope for a definitive/Game of the year edition 🙌🏻

[@IRaoulDuke]

Not getting to level 20 hurts , bad.

[@FecalMattur]

I love how involved the VA's and such have been in like D&D sessions and origin character playthroughs of BG3.. nice to see and feel something as genuinely a passion project and more than a mere paycheck and it really shows in the performances in game. You really go along for the ride with these people abd their characters

[@RPGLegacy997]

Yeah we can read between lines : at first a follow up was planned be that BG4 or an expansion then something happened with hasbro/WoTc. The timing of repeated declarations of greedy publishers and Larian dropping BG3 expansion and BG4 isn’t a coincidence. Larian can’t say the real reason they are dropping BG4 development because of legal reasons, but it is fairly obvious it’s something shitty WotC did. During Gamespot interview Swen has made a comment about the new people at WotC and how everyone was fired... So best guest they became too greedy before the success of BG3 and wanted more money and decided to change the deal/partnership.

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

You know What hurts the most is that the they were actually working on a dlc, I don’t think the game needs a dlc but their next project is sadly 5-10 years away.

[@ras_alhim]

The only really dissapointing thing is that the epilogue clearly teased some DLC, especially for Wyll and Karlachs stories, which are now unresolved or in the hands of god knows which dev

[@epsiloneka3612]

I don't know why I'm seeing this everywhere; it hasn't been teased or even considered .By the way, I'm not sure if it was Cromwelp or Swen Vincke who said this, but they had considered making a different DLC precisely because it was impossible. The huge problem with BG3 and its potential sequel is that it wouldn't have been the continuation of our character anyway. Because it's impossible, far too many branching paths. An expansion on Avernus would mean that if you happen to choose Minthara in your first playthrough, do you not get the DLC? Or is the DLC completely inconsistent with your story? Impossible, or unacceptable. Personally, I would have liked a DLC with my Dark Urge and Minthara going to Menzoberranzan to take over the city. But then it would mean that if you didn't save the drow, you wouldn't get the DLC.

[@felezeros4556]

For me it was just them living their lifes. The main story ended, but that was just a plot our characters got pulled into. They all had other shit going on and that should not change, just because we defeated the absoulute. In my eyes this was still a true ending for BG3

[@ras_alhim]

@@epsiloneka3612 Karlach talks about a forge that may fix her engine and Wyll has still not killed Mizora, but is on her trail. Their stories are not finished.

[@FecalMattur]

Could be in the hands of modders though. It did seem in statements though that the team were getting weary with the project so better to either cut ties or leave it to others who do have the passion to add on rather than slap things together uninspired. I'm saying this coming from the best possible intent btw. I'd rather an open ended finale for Karlach (being my favorite character probably in anything ever) with a glimmer of hope on the horizon than a slapped together cheese ending that just does her a grave injustice whether it's "happy" or not

[@theworstcatholic7247]

@@epsiloneka3612 Not really you could have Karlarchs side be overall inconsequential on a macro level, much like Gortash. Sure you'll get the most out of having her there, but you could go without her. Just have some reason to go take on Zariel or get stuck in the hells in general and then use that as a big deal for either Karlach and Wyll if you have them in those positions like many do, but not pointless if you don't. Like taking on Vlakith, sure helping Laezel is the obvious reason for most players, but you don't need it for the rest. Taking on a Lich Queen with a grudge against you has dozens of potential easy reasons why we would be up against them. No reason you can't take the Drow city (or liberate it) without Minthara, it'd just be more personal if you had her.

[@katlawendin]

I was waiting for you to cover this, since you have been my number one BG3 content creator since the early days of early access. I am INCREDIBLY sad to know this will be the end of BG3... honestly so sad that we're not going to be seeing and hanging out with our favourite characters again that we all came to love so much either... I don't care if there "may be" another studio that picks it up in the future, it will not be the same, it's not Larian. Baldur's Gate 3 came to be my NUMBER ONE game of all time and will always hold a very special place in my heart. With that being said, I completely understand their choice and WOTC are notoriously hard to work with. I can only assume that they were going to their sticky little fingers even further into Larian now once they saw how much BG3 pulled in for them. And I bet that's one big reason for why Larian is pulling out of DnD all-together. But, I am still very excited to see what they'll create next! And YEESSS, I desperatly want more Panels From Hell in the future once they're in early access again! They were amazing and it was always something that I looked forward to. I loved the cheese and unpolish approach they had. It felt like we were always "there" with them, you know?

[@JoeyCentral]

If it makes you feel any better, WoTC has plans for continuing the story of our beloved characters. So that kind of brings me a bit of comfort.

[@jitkajirikova5687]

So this is very sad news for me. Baldurs gate series is much better than DOS series and BG3 is a much better game than DOS2 and mainly went in the right direction. DOS3 doesn't have a chance to reach as big an audience as BG3, and I'm worried that DOS3 will be simplified in some ways compared to BG3 and not as deep. The fact that there will be no DLC for BG3 is also a shame, because only max level 12 is simply not enough for such a game and we were left without the best skills and spells

[@flying-magpie]

​@JoeyCentral no they won't, they will ruin them like they ruin everything else

[@Zelorp]

@jitkajirikova5687 It’s fun stating your opinion as fact, isn’t it.

[@tropicthunder131]

Maybe one RPG to rule them all? One RPG to bind them? One RPG to bring them all? And in the darkness bind them? Wouldn't that be cool!

[@EmberCelica]

Don’t give me hope.

[@Caillouteletub123]

One can only hope.

[@eudyptes5046]

But Swen mad it clear it will be their franchise. Also, the people now in charge of the Tolkien estate are even worse than Hasbro which is quite an achievement.

[@DerKnaII]

i would buy the early access for the next larian's today. even if i'm not seeing the game for years. that's how much i trust larian.

[@ragvald8835]

I'd like to share that optimism, but let me remind you of CDPR who had similar reputation after Witcher 3, only to shoot themselves in the leg with cyberpunk.

[@DrZaius3141]

@@ragvald8835 CDPR had one over-hyped game where we already knew about their bad work environment. Larian has a much longer history of all-around good stuff.

[@NkenKenY]

@@DrZaius3141 yeah larian is better but they did not give us the upper city like they said they would at launch

[@crclar3146]

⁠@@ragvald8835cyberpunk is still a good game

[@reqhart]

The reason why this announcement makes me a little salty is the epilogue that was added to BG3 ended almost like a soft announcement of an expansion or sequel. Would have loved an extra act that would challenge end game builds more.

[@dominika3762]

Same, but apart from salty also sad

[@MunuM77]

I don't think Larian wasted time making a Stadia port for BG3. They learned a lot about working in a cloud and remote environment. I would gander that it made working during the pandemic and flooding and war zones easier. Plus they have a good round the clock system with multiple studios in different time zones all working on the same project.

[@travishartzler9155]

I wish Larian all the best, but I doubt their future games will interest me. BG3 was the first new game for me in 20 years. Might have to wait another 20 for the next.

[@LeanneKnoll]

Another thing to keep in mind is Larian has already talked about modding communities. So, even though they won’t be taking on another sequel or any DLC, you can bet that there’s probably someone who does mods that would step up to the plate and do something to give you that content.

[@wilmannator]

Also no-one seems to be talking about the Blood In Baldur's Gate comminity web game as a wonderful strategy and gift to gamers. The way it weaved into the actual investigation in Act 3 and the Slayer plotline was remarkable. Early access was a manylayered amazing pre-release cake and that was the icing.

[@Rolandais]

Looking forward to hear more about their next project and them finally making it clear they'd continue as they always have, by providing a game, and box, without any more payments for all sorts of things they "didn't get to add/finish" Swen is a good guy, and buying a game, once, for one price, and one box, is something more studios could learn from.

[@tw1797]

So.... no DLC, which so many people actually want this time.... that's kind of lame, but I respect Larian enough to trust in their decisions.

[@fiftydabs5114]

well we will never get another good RPG set in the forgotten realms now. I would like to see maybe a vampire the masquerade crpg from them, but I could honestly care less for DOS3, couldn’t really get into those games to begin with.

[@samantha_shaw]

Cannot wait to see what Larian have planned. I loved early access for BG3, and have so many hours played in DOS2, so am looking forward to the early access for their new game. And yes to Panel from Hell or whatever events they have planned that was so much fun seeing what they had each time, and watching you in the tavern of course.

[@louhodo5761]

Maybe Larian Studios will do a Shadowrun game.

[@KiazaKadaj]

imagine losing all the people you worked with for years to insane layoffs. screw hasbro. i’m glad larian is not giving them anything anymore. i’m so excited for a divinity 3, I know for a fact theyll release a third but I am also happy to support a new IP if they eventually decide to drop one.

[@JeannieLove]

Divinity II went through 3 different iterations: Ego Draconis, The Dragon Knight Saga which included an expansion titled Flames of Vengeance, and then the Director's Cut. It was also my first Larian game starting with the Xbox 360 release, I also have the other two iterations on Steam. I loved that it was an open world action game and you could play a female character.

[@NewHeathen]

Fingers crossed for an RPG based in Middle Earth ... hmm a game to "dwarf them all" 🙂

[@mushroom.mustang]

now that would be dope 🥲

[@ElderSnowball]

Would be nice. We haven’t had a good middle earth game since shadow of war. But even thing that’s not really rpg heavy which is what I want.

[@haukionkannel]

One ring rpg is my favorite system now… but most likely scifi next..

[@IRaoulDuke]

Not getting to level 20 in this masterpiece hurts.

[@Celadonis-the-Lore-Seeker]

Baldur's Gate 3 really needed its Throne of Bhaal equivalent but i'm happy to see Larian ready to reach new heights already.

[@chrissoclone]

I think it's very confusing how any additional content for a game is all thrown together as "DLC" nowadays. I don't think at least older players expected anything like those $5 storybits, which most of us associate with DLC - the horse armors, item packs, 1 hour mission bits etc. What I hoped for and I think many did was a good old expansion pack, those things almost as big the main campaign back then.Tthink Neverwinter Nights - Shadows of Unrentide, Oblivion-Shivering isles, Dragon Age - Awakening or recently CP2077-Phantom Liberty, I think that would've suited BG3 well, even with a totally new story and different characters. The other stuff that's usually a $5-10 DLC though, nah, not Larian's thing. I miss that distinction between Expansion pack and DLC. Anyway, it's super sad to see BG3's story end here but also understandable, and Vincke is a man of principles (and super pi**ed all of the guys at WoTC they worked with were fired). I'd love to see them handing over the toolsets and assets to a trusted friend though, like Bioware often did back in the day with their erxpansions so they can focus on their next project. It's just hard to imagine who could do it on this level of polish and free of publisher bulls**t.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

DLC is just an abbreviation for DownLoadable Content. Just about everything is downloaded digitally these days and we don't call games DLC , just games so it means anything added to the game after it releases not in a patch the great big expansions are included and I'd say are examples of good DLC whereas the garbage like Horse armor is bad DLC. Even with good DLC this can be taken too far imo like in the Grand Strategy genre this is how the developer and publisher Paradox makes the majority of it's money by selling new content to players over many years of post release development and the price to get everything worthwhile can range to $200+ for a say a five+ year old game like Europa Universalis 4 which if I remember right is closer to ten years old thinking about it.

[@low-resghul8306]

While I am saddened by no DLC or sequel, I’m also so excited for the future. As Swven insinuated, they are a company that builds on their talents, and improve upon themselves. So imagine a post-BG3 Larian, putting all that they learned onto the next DOS, or even a brand new IP. I am so, SO EXCITED! Edit: BUT WAIT! I just remembered we don’t even have to say goodbye to BG3 yet, because Larian confirmed that they are working on official mod support. Sure, ya can get mods from the nexus, but imagine the convenience for many of just going to the steam workshop to download whatever ya want! Jesus, the sheer content!

[@johnyoungerman1857]

Thanks for your thoughts as always. Larian hit Top-of-the-Mountain with BG3, best to just Bake the cake and eat it to...Then leave the room. Hope we won't have to wait longer than 4 years for there next game. ( I ain't gettin' any younger). Excited to see what it'll be. Peace

[@stephenlewis6922]

This makes sense. Take all of that goodwill (and money) you have and focus on your own IP. Then you dont have to share any profit the next game will undoubtably make.

[@DreamingDrag0n]

I don't really mind that they won't make BG4 as long as they stay withing the genre of rpg. Actually, not being limited by licence and contract could lead to something even better than BG3, something completely new and different. So I'm excited.

[@Khelidube.]

I have massive respect and love for Larian studios. Although it’s a bit heartbreaking we won’t get any new content for bg3, I’m sure their next project will be worth the wait and will be something to look forward too.

[@Vigol7]

Im sad that we won’t get dlc or a sequel but now BG3 is cemented in history and i can safely say that it will live on as my number one game, thank you larion!

[@WPNSTV]

I want Larian to undertake a sandbox styled game. I think they showed immense promise with the Dos2 dungeon master mode, and only fell short in a few crucial areas that they could fix. BG3 would of been amazing if players could, say, build their own dungeons/campaigns and share them with others. It would create so much more room to play with the character classes, enemy types, spells, and more.

[@NoWay1969]

Tactical Adventures, if Larian won't do BG4 then that's who should do it. Solasta was wonderful. A much more humble game, but still wonderful. I really hope that BG3 ends up with a devoted Skyrim-style modding community. If the mod engine allows people to mod classic D&D modules into BG3 that would be revolutionary and it would keep BG3 selling for the next two decades.

[@JohnSmith-rr3jt]

If there is no DLC then release the tools modders need to make their own questlines and areas. Maybe they can fill in all the falsely advertised content that was promised less than a month before launch, before it was cut without so much as a word to clarify that it was being dropped. Also, if they follow the same trend as their last 2 games, we will get a super polished Act 1, an average at best Act 2, and a dogshit Act 3 when released. Same thing happened with DOS2, and I don't see any reason why they would change now.

[@skittlznt2611]

This is tough news for me because BG3 was my introduction into the DnD world & I can't imagine going from BG3 to earlier titles because I won't be able to keep myself from falling into the comparison trap 😢

[@MarcTheLoneGamer]

Larian doesn't need Baldur's Gate and D&D to make awesome games. They can make their own series, with the quality of presentation, story and writing they are capable of, I am totally in for what they are going to do in the future.

[@ucancallmeal6904]

I have a guess for one risky area: use of Large Language Model based AI to make character interactions more realistic. This would be very difficult as it removes the constraint that everything is contained in a set of pre-established options/secnarios. I cannot see how this would not be part of the future of RPGs but, heck, how to get it done is a real challenge.

[@RedStar441]

GOOD. They entered the DnD scene, did the most immaculate backflip probably since ever, and left after the fanfare was over. That's the kind of confidence a performer and artist should have.

[@marcelsansalone3829]

Hope the add the last part of bg3 that was taken out for a definite or free update later then. It is suppose to be a key part of act 3 and it possibly has the way to fix Karlach engine giving the best ending for her possible. Hopefully, they do this. And hopefully they keep their practices. Being a shining example of HOW companys Should work.

[@yellowbeard1]

I’m having fun imagining Larian looking at WotC like the crew in Event Horizon and Sven just says “We’re leaving.”

[@richardhealy]

I am sad we will not get a more complete set of spells, some of the cool race options and sub classes to take through the game. Practicallly all of my actual play D&D characters use some element not in the base game: Aasimar Celestial warlock Yuan-ti Enchanter Wizard Kobold Ballistic Artificer Gitzerai Genie Warlock Pact of the Chain. Dwarven Grave Cleric Minotaur Wild Magic Barbarian Mage Slayer. But that is what modding is for. So there's that small consolation. I hope the next thing they do is phenomenal.

[@halforcalldork]

I’d love more panels from hell for the next games! As for the baldurs gate news, I think it’s awesome that they did this. They walked the walk, which I don’t think many others would have after the BG3 success. Of course I’d love more time with these beloved characters, but I respect them so much for that! Bg3 is my favorite game I’ve ever played and I have them to thank for it! Can’t wait to start the wait for their next game with the Wolfpack again! 🐺

[@starlordstark5729]

Larian could make an RPG about plumbers and it would be awesome id bet. If other companies were smart they be calling wisards of the coast and begging them to let them remake baldurs gates 1 & 2. 0r anything in the DND setting right now while its hot. And yes we all loved the panels of hell.

[@logankerlee1988]

I HEAVILY played BG3 while it was in development! I remember sending in a good few reports on errors or problems that I encountered while playing. It really is so much fun to check out the development process like that! :)

[@bigolbearthejammydodger6527]

A true shame larian wants to break away from D&D - though I understand completely as Hasbro are a nightmare. I was hoping for a modern version of never winter knights 2 down the line. not the campaign or story but rather an ability for DMs to make their own stories as mod campaigns.NWN2 - contained all the creation tools and it was super easy to write your own D&D modules. Sadly this was before the days of DLC and easy internet access, pre steam days, pre internet for consoles - it was a couple of years too early. We D&D players and DM's could really use a computer game that gives us these full tools. I do know larian has stated that they want full mod support for bg3.. and that its in the works, but requiring dealing with console manufacturers. - Still hoping we get to write our own campaigns in the BG3 engine - but I remain shocked that larian isn't monetizing this process... a real piece of good will for the community, but its got to be annoying to any investors/shareholders (if there even are any - I don't know if its private or public)

[@erictrinque6513]

i predict that baldurs gate 4 (or whatever) will become a live service mmmmmmoRPg

[@ex0stasis72]

I'd want to see a Fallout CRPG spinoff game in Larian's own engine.

[@haukionkannel]

They don’t own fallaout API so no…

[@ex0stasis72]

@@haukionkannel They didn't own the D&D and Forgotten Realms IP either. I assume API was an autocorrect typo on mobile. Obsidian didn't own the Fallout IP, and they developed Fallout New Vegas.

[@vyris6727]

I hope it's Shadowrun or a cyberpunk themed game like it.

[@DavidMonarres]

A little sad, but their position is understandable. One reason that I started to play BG3 was familiarity with 5e and Faerun. Looking forward to what they try to do next.

[@ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc]

Bigger? That's speculation. Different ? Likely it is different. I was surprised when Sven told the team they were moving on from Baldurs Gate that they welcomed it. I would have thought they wanted to bask in the continued success the game brought. Or maybe they were just bored. But apparently that increased pressure on them to continue to raise the bar. Or so that is what I think. However pivoting to a new completely different game also raises the bar. I would argue even more. I doubt it will be DOS. Why ? Because it's another fantasy. . Lets say they decide to do a space game with the player being either human or alien and establishing a space empire. A game more or less on the lines of Mass Effect. So you play for example not just as Shepard but as a character like Garus Liara , Tali Grunt etc etc with different skills and abilities. By definition that has to have the same excellent voice acting the same mo cap stuff they did with BG3 the same excellent story etc etc except it will not be a fantasy and we know they can do a fantasy well. But as we saw with Bethesda and Starfield a massive change aka we haven't done anything like this before has substantial risk. I think most fans thought Bethesda would do a good job with Starfield and were shocked at how lame the game is. Yes we have faith in Larian but most of us also had faith in Bethesda. Most of us had faith in CDPR before 2077 came out. So because BG3 was excellent is no guarantee a new completely different non fantasy game will be as good or as successful. I thought if we didn't get the upper city we would get some kind of dlc that involved Cyric. If I spelled the name right. They left an opening for that with the fake cow who apparently is a minion of Cyric. But now we won't see Cyric or learn what his plans were. baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Cyric So we lost out there . I don't blame Larian or Sven Their game their choice. I doubt we will see another game even coming close to BG3 in excellence and I have 0 faith in the other games Hasbro/WOTC are greenlighting by other developers in their hopes of striking gold again with another video game.

[@click4gameplay]

Larian! Give me Divinity Ego Draconis 2 damn it!

[@ObesityStupidity]

And what about Divinity Fallen Heroes? I know it's cancelled. But I don't want to let it go)

[@WolfheartFPS]

Click is a true fan!

[@Gwilherm]

Yes!!

[@ghostsdragon9222]

Divinity II: Flames of Vengeance had real cliffhanger with divine being returned and having the lover of damian being killed

[@ZapGamer2k11]

That's the dream 🙂

[@Deisan]

For Larian's next big game, I'm hoping for either a Star Wars game or a Warhammer 40k one based on the Inquisition. Would be BALLER

[@haukionkannel]

Very unlikely,,, Maybe Traveller or other high scifi?

[@AleksiJoensuu]

I'm a bit sad or apprehensive. I respect Larian a lot, but I still have to also say that I bought Baldur's Gate 3 because it was a Baldur's Gate and a D&D game. And because of the glowing early access hype from channels like yours, of course. Now that I know what Larian can do, I will of course keep an eye on their future games anyway - it's just that I would hold on to my seat that much tighter if I knew it would be a BG series or D&D game. 😊

[@randoir1863]

If you ask me , we could use a LOT more studios like LARIAN in the gaming sphere . Takes chances , listens to players feedback and we all get to be happy in the end .

[@malguskerensky]

Note that Larian did say there were not adding new content to BG3, but still working on bugs, polish, and modding support. So while their focus has shifted to the new game, they are not quite done with BG3. -- Pipe dream here, but imagine in Larian dipped into Dragon Age series at some point, a true successor to DA:O?

[@Lady_Nila]

I'm so sad to say goodbye to my beautiful band of misfits in BG3, but hey..they'll always be there for any additional playthroughs I do lol. And while I'm sad, I'm also incredibly stoked for whatever Larian is working on next. They have my full trust and support. I'll be so excited to play it in Early Access just like BG3. And if they bring back the panels from hell, EVEN BETTER!! ❤

[@nunyabidness3075]

Overall, I like the DLC model when it’s done right. If the market goes nuts for a game, why not put out a new story with the same platform? Let’s say they could do another adventure for two thirds the cost as the last one. Let’s say it’s only 80% as good as BG3. Who would be angry to pay the same thing for the sequel? I wouldn’t. It would still be a good value, IMO. The extra profit means Larian can make more of what we want. That’s what I care about.

[@dj44640]

Imagine bringing Mercer's DAGGERHEART into life...

[@kilowolf5488]

All I want is a editor for BG3. Something like we saw with the Neverwinter nights titles. Just something to build our own stuff and have fun and give the game some extended life.

[@raphaelregnault6914]

Remember that BG4 is not a "nope". It's just not planned now. Sven and Larian just spent 8 years on BG3 and they're still working hard to improve the game until it's perfect in their eyes. Sven is just on another project to keep moving forward, and this project is not BG4. But he never said he will never consider making BG4 after that. The reason why they won't make BG4 right now, probably, is that BG3 was to big and to unique in what they ever achieved that if they worked on making BG4 right now, it would just be BG3 2.0 and they probably want to improve, to make something different. Don't forget that BG3 new "good" ending closes on the promise of another adventure. Keep having hope, and keep having fun on BG3.

[@K4zetsukai]

Ok ok, we get it Sven, you want to move over to Pathfinder and build a game using their rules. Maybe build a game in Golarion world? Take the torch from Owlcat and just give us a pathfinder game? :) Thanks Sven! Hero of the people.

[@WolfheartFPS]

lol

[@K4zetsukai]

@@WolfheartFPS i mean you know you would love it. It could give them the space to expand on vast character builds (something new for Larian) while continuing to drive a good story. And i got a feeling Pathfinder folks might be cool to deal with. Good step towards the "RPGs of all RPGs". And if its similar style or engine as BG3, it might not even take so many years, as they already got a great library of assets that could be reused. 😊

[@smithynoir9980]

When Sven says Larian will make the RPG that will dwarf them all, I wholly and fully believe they'll deliver it! I trust his plan will be great! :)

[@ryanz486]

Id love more BG3 content and BG4, however i absolutely respect that they wont just milk things because they can. As long as their next project is fantasy and turn based I'll be there

[@alisaforster28691]

Hard to imagine but larian working of a fallout 1 remake would be awesome

[@velinion1]

I never expected BG3 DLC, but was hoping for a classic expansion along the lines of Throne of Bhaal, which seemed a much more Larian thing to do. Knew it was a long shot, so not too disappointed.

[@awaken6760]

Its sad we wont get an Avernus dlc to get Karlach a new heart...

[@smudjygirl4924]

Panel From Hell is an absolute must. It was such a nice time watching them express their love and passion by dressing up and acting things out. I genuinely looked forward to every single one, and usually I go to Game Shows with the expectation of disappointed. I was very disappointed about no DLC or expansions for about half a minute - mostly because I want Karlach to have a good end and I wish there was a way to convince the Emperor to work A Certain Green Dude. I kind of just do not enjoy those parts of them game even now. I suppose a DLC isn't necessary for those to happen. But then I think about how DLC is such a rip off for the most part, and how some players miss some aspects of continuation because they can only afford the base game and I can only respect them for living up to their values. In a time when we have devs telling us we should get used to not owning games and such, Larian is such a breath of fresh air and they have my support no matter what. Super excited to see what they get up to next, without anything holding them back.

[@bighat4742]

Honestly kinda glad Swen is gonna give his own go again at making the Larian game of his dreams. I'm not a big 5e fan, as someone who plays Pathfinder and FFd20.

[@hectamus_]

This is probably the best decision they could make. This gives the devs a mental break, and allows them to go work on a new, fresh idea. Part of the journey is the end.

[@myrrhs01]

I would love to see Larian take on another IP, like White Wolf. A VTM game by Larian would be amazing. Heck, let's send them on a world tour of table top games.

[@Steven-qc2sz]

4:40 I had no idea, plate armor came in a short sleeve style.

[@mango7428]

If they made a campaign editor for BG3.... the game would be immortal

[@blook88]

hi everyone. im not an experct in license/contracts/and so on. so my question would be: if larian dont have the license anymore for a baldurs gate 4, does this mean they arent able to do a "definitivr"version of baldurs gate 3? like i said, dont know anything about the topic, so sorry if the question is easy to answer. thank you for your answers.

[@imranbohari1]

Well, you made a very good point - DS 2 blowing DS1 and BG3 blowing DS2. Just to expand on it DS1 was a very well critically acclaimed game, maybe it didn't blow the charts but the general reception of critics and gamers alike was overwhelmingly positive. The same trend was continued by DS2 and when putting DS1 and DS2 side by side, we see cinematic, gameplay and story wise DS2 was a lot better. Given the fact that they only took 2-3 years to shell out DS2. BG3 dwarfed DS2 and was a legit AAA game. Initially I didn't think the cinematic/cutscenes will add much, but it did make the game more enjoyable and put it on the radar of non-hardcore RPG/CRPG gamers which in turn allowed it to be a giga hit.

[@AvianEdits]

I just want the official Mod support. That will give us enough content for years to come

[@sorelousir6834]

Larian is legendary. I am excited for what is to come from this studio! Imagen, if they got the rights to remake SWOTOR Knights of the old republic.

[@JoeyCentral]

Imagine Larian teaming up with Bethesda to work on Elder Scrolls 6. That would be GOAT.

[@isidornimages]

Was looking forward to you covering this. And yes, that was a great interview.

[@ninetailedfox579121]

Swen's philosophy is such a breath of fresh air, and I really don't mind a lack of DLC from it. We know that whatever comes out of Larian is going to be their complete vision for a fully finished product, not some game that is half finished just so that they can make more money down the road like most of the AAA industry seems to do these days.

[@lorankaufmann2540]

To be fair BG3 had an ending that doesn't leave room for a lot of extra story. Plus Larian seems to like keeping the devs focused on projects that they can expand. I for one look forward to their next project dropping in 2028.

[@bugmite8271]

Maybe Larian is simply now working on Divinity: Fallen Heroes, which was their next planned Divinity title before it got shelved for BGIII. But I am still holding hope for an OG Divinity 3, unlikely as that may be at this point.

[@jurgen4466]

Really sad and tragic no DLC or expansions for BG3! 😢 If other coming game is a beter way time will tell. If someone could do it its Larian studios ♥️🎉

[@wilmannator]

Panel From Hell was a shining beacon that I looked forward to so much. What a magnificent way to announce a major patch.

[@MrBaldurian]

Can some1 pitch them pillars of eternity plz. Would love a game with that kind of combat style and itemization

[@Jimothyjohns]

Larian’s next game isn’t the RPG to dwarf them all, the technology doesn’t exist yet (nobody knows the specs for next gen consoles and such) but their next game is going to be the precursor and first step towards the big one

[@Xavileiro]

I want a GTA competitor. Morph Sims 4 into open world and freedom of choice. Companions etc. I'd also take The Great Cleric type open world

[@sanderbjerknes4476]

BG3 is among my favorite games of all time! That being said, I hope they learn from BG3 when it comes to act 1 development. Act 1 is nearly perfect right before release, but since they added monk on release, there aren't really any magic items for monks until act 2 almost act 3. I hope that they don't polish their act 1 like they did for bg3 if they have classes/builds that doesn't have use until later.

[@robertcorr6971]

I'm hoping we have another studio take the engine and tools Larian had and gives it a swing. I love this specific format of they developed and I feel like we need a Ravenloft version of Baldur's Gate sooner rather than later.

[@Toranga]

Now I'm really disappointed, they didn't made is possible to level up to level 20 and adding those spells to the game.

[@andromidius]

Maybe in 10 years we'll get another Baldur's Gate. Maybe. We'll see what comes after this next project.

[@Gamer9o]

If anybody in the future is gonna make BG4 ..oh boy they have some expectations to fulfill xD