Warbonnet Ridgerunner 2020 New vs. Old. What Are The Updates?

[@urface187]

I bought a new ridge runner and i was trying to think of how to hook up a hang time ridge line inside. Didn’t realize there were rings inside. Thanks for the video.

[@MarkGoesHiking]

Hey Rob. I just received my Ridgerunner and am finding your vids really helpful. Thanks man!

[@robpelton]

Rock on! Thanks!

[@pd4916]

Excellent. Thanks for that. I have the 30d version with Becket suspension coming. Please can you do a quick video on the Myers suspension you have. Thanks alot

[@robpelton]

I certainly will!

[@dontall71]

At 1:32, was that Big Foot in the woods behind you?

[@JourneyontheTrail]

Great breakdown! I'm a ground dweller but looking at getting into a bridge hammock. Researching between the Ridgerunner and the Banyan. Thanks for sharing!

[@robpelton]

I think either choice will be a good one you’ll enjoy. Thanks for watching!

[@otway00]

Brandon has always made chances / improvements to all his hammocks over the years. My wife owns 3 RR's

[@robpelton]

Such a great company. I have always been impressed with them.

[@Survived4Real]

I really like your channel and video reviews. I was a hunter, fisherman, and outdoorsman overall until I had 4 near death accidents as a result of other drivers driving drunk and hitting me. Long story short, I can use a hammock and find them more comfortable that than custom made beds to help my back pain and any bed sores. The WARBONNET RIDGERUNNER with the SPREADER BARS are especially great on my back and overall pain. I’m still 70% to 100% PARALYZED from the chest down but it’s much easier to get in and out of a hammock than trying to get up off the ground if tent camping. The weight isn’t a problem for me, and the hammock in this review that is more like a bed sheet feel is perfect for me. I’ll be 60 years old on June 2, 2021 - 2 weeks from now and am hoping to get the hammock like the one you reviewed - the carbon fiber spreader bars, and the accessories. Would you please tell how to buy one the easiest- the PRICE OF THE COMPLETE PACKAGE DEAL? I would be greatly appreciative for any advice and information on where to buy a Warbonnet Hammock and any accessories I may like. Doctors said I’d be lucky if I lived to be 30. I’m weeks away from doubling their estimates and will never quit trying. Few people have broken their necks in 3 places and lived long. I’ve put in 8924 hours of Physical Therapy and will keep,going. I look forward to taking up Hammocking as a way of enjoying the outdoors. Thanks for your time and advice. Bill Sturman ~

[@robpelton]

Hi Bill! Thanks for the support. Sounds like you are doing quite well considering your experiences! As far as the hammock goes. Order right through Warbonnet. The spreader bars are from Ruta Locura. You just have to send them an email asking for them.

[@DonHavjuan]

@wm.sturman get a haven instead.

[@arkansasoutdoorschannel1867]

I think I'm going to upgrade from my REI QDA to the RR this upcoming Holiday Season.

[@robpelton]

I’ve never looked back! Thanks for watching.

[@SlvrChkn]

You can get the new 2020 version in the same 30D nylon to lower the weight. If Im not mistaken the old version in the 30D weighed nearly identical to the new version in 30D. The 40D added the extra 4.5oz

[@robpelton]

Correct!

[@MrBalas3]

I couldn’t tell is that a double layer hammock or not since you are using an underquilt in the video? Also wondering about tippiness when if tossing and turning from side to side such as I do. Wondering if I can one could just put a pad on top and if wanted to use my One Wind underquilt could just use that as normal. I know they make the Lynx underquilt specifically for it, but wouldn’t want to buy everything right out the door. Enjoy your reviews are informative and don’t take yourself to seriously. Thanks

[@robpelton]

Yep. Double layer. I don’t see an issue with laying a pad on the hammock. The hammock will be a bit more “tippy” as your center of gravity will be higher. You can adjust a normal UQ for the WBRR. You’d just need to fiddle with it. Thanks for the support and for watching!

[@MidwestBackpacker]

Glad you explained the bug coil. Stephen. LOL.

[@robpelton]

Typical Escallier.

[@motuekarewaka5145]

Glad I found your channel, and enjoying your content. lm thinking of trying a bridge hammock just wondering how deep is the Ridgerunner is at the head end, say from the bar ? please.

[@JourneyMore]

Thankful to know more about the fabric material!🙌🏻

[@robpelton]

There are so many choices out there!!

[@remcca01]

Rob could you drop links for the sturdier shock cord you bought, the trilocs and how you installed your ridge line

[@robpelton]

Here ya go! Reflective Shock Cord (Affiliate) amzn.to/33f5PhR Line Lock 3 (Affiliate) amzn.to/2Ode6hW I also have more listed in my Ridgerunner vids. Playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PLSkt3JQLBnvmBD-EnB7ipjfqG6CXZCva_

[@algarcia988]

Awesome video! Does the set up have a slot for a pad underneath?

[@robpelton]

Yep!

[@algarcia988]

@@robpelton thank you!

[@rungavagairun]

3:39 OMG. I'm an idiot. I've been using my Ridgerunner for like 7-8 months now and just saw where you attached your underquilt biners. I've been doing it wrong this whole time. I just clipped them over the whole strap. The carabiners were twisting and popping off. Well duh. That's not how they were meant to attach to the hammock. SMH. This is why I watch these videos, even after using things for months. Thank you!

[@robpelton]

Haha! I still have some helpful tidbits out there.

[@mclostinthewoods]

Alright Rob, I broke down. I had my Chameleon and 11' Thunderfly. Well, now I have added a Dutchware Banyan Bridge hammock (which I love ... lots of good naps already ... taking it to the OHT in 2 weeks). The trusty old 11' Thunderfly just isn't long enough to cover the dog bones entirely, so I did it ... I bought myself a new Mountainfly (Ocean Blue, 20D silpoly). I ordered it on 6/11, with a stated lead time of 3-4 weeks, and received it yesterday. That is a mere 11 days from order to receipt on a custom Mountainfly. I'm seam sealing the pullouts tonight and it will be ready to go (already ordered and received an extra set of Dutchware Stingerz and a mesh sleeve for it). Was tempted to do another Thunderfly, only longer, but remembered you talking about your Mountainfly and figured I'd give it a shot (same price anyway). Can't wait to get it out on the trail!

[@robpelton]

Haha! Awesome.

[@navelaviator18]

@4:35 you mentioned that the shock cord on the old ridgerunner isn't as robust as the shock cord you put on the new 2020 ridgerunner. What is the more robust shock cord you used called and where can I get some? Do you have a link for the Meijer Tech suspension system you went with? Or some way to identify it from all the others? Why is it better than the options they sell at Warbonnet? Thanks!

[@robpelton]

I purchased the shock cord from Dutchware Gear. As far as the Meyers Tech suspension goes, he sells them via Facebook. It is the becket hitch suspension with Evo Loops. Tell him I sent ya!

[@navelaviator18]

@@robpelton Thanks again man! Your videos have totally sold us on the Ridgerunner. All the hacks and tips are awesome! Any chance you might make a video where you put the new spindrift sock on the 2020 ridgerunner? I would love to see how hard or easy it is but I can't find a video where someone shows how it goes on... all the videos I've seen show the old spindrift or they talk about it with it already on the Ridgerunner.

[@nathanmagel487]

Thanks for the review - have you tried the Lawson Blue Ridge Camping Hammock by chance? more poles I suppose, but if I can't find two properly-spaced trees, it'd be nice to know I still have shelter.

[@robpelton]

I haven’t, but I hear good things.

[@Droptineful]

Great video! Thanks for sharing the info. I love my 2 year old RR and relied heavily on your videos in making my decision. Also bought one for my daughter. WB should hook you up with at least one hammock!

[@robpelton]

Haha. I’d take one if they offered! Thanks for watching! Glad the WBRR is working out for ya.

[@mikeghost7788]

I like the bug repellent on your hat, I had a red one a long time ago. What are they called? I'm not a hammock guy but nice video anyway.

[@korling99]

I bought the becket suspension with my ridgerunner. Can you tell us more about the Myerstech suspension?

[@robpelton]

I certainly will!

[@djwillson1734]

I am interested in finding out more about the Myerstech as well. Thanks

[@tronalpha9137]

is there a underlay pocket wihin the hammock. ? I have been looking around as i want to buy a hammock and go camping again. Gerard.

[@robpelton]

The double layer version does have a sleeve to insert a pad if desired.

[@srqsup]

How would you compare and contrast the warbonnet and the Haven? Trying to decide between the two

[@robpelton]

I have no experience with the haven. It looks like you utilize a pad in the haven. Not sure how finicky the set up is, but it looks interesting. I like the tried and true Ridgerunner. I’m biased though. I already own one. Haha

[@seasoldier3902]

Can you tell me what is the Outdoor Research top you are wearing in this video please?

[@robpelton]

Outdoor Research Ferossi Hoodie!

[@jebbgarrison8439]

I spotted a wild Stephen in his natural habitat!

[@robpelton]

Oh yes!

[@keithpither4795]

Questions; do you use a inflatable bed, if so what make, model and are the dimensions the same?

[@robpelton]

I do not typically. I have before and it works ok. You do get flatter, but it makes the hammock a little more tippy. A fine option for anything warmer than 50°. I recommend an UQ for anything colder.

[@sockenpuppe1057]

Hi .. thanks for the review ..i got a question tho , is the " dabble layer " just a second layer to spread the weight , or is there space in between for an air pat ? Reason i ask is , im not sure that i want to spend the money for an under quilt AND the Hammock when i just start out hammock camping .

[@robpelton]

Yes to both questions! The double layer adds more capacity for weight and for a pad. I’ve used a pad a few times. I prefer an Underquilt though. Thanks for watching!

[@tomlucas4788]

Great video as usual. Love the color wish i saw that before i got my RR a week ago. Couple questions if you have time 1.how long did you make the ridge line? Is the big net strong enough to hold the ridge line with the hook time and phone? Looks like it’s just the shock cord and bug net fir support. 2. What size did you make the shock cord on the new bug net pull out? I see you used line lock 3 3. Love to see a review or how to on Jeff’s suspension. I have bought a lot of stuff from him except suspension. Still using beetle buckles which I know you had slippage issues Thanks for all the good work. You are the expert on the Ridge runners. Not many videos on them

[@robpelton]

Sounds like my next video! I do plan going over suspensions. I’ll go over the Ridgeline and bugnet stuff too.

[@tomlucas4788]

rpelton1 I’ll mark my calendar. Your videos are a great help to new bridge owners and hikers in general

[@markthiel2953]

Thanks for the video, Rob. Great looking RR. Is there an option for the ridge line included from the factory? Take care.

[@robpelton]

There isn’t as far as I know, but you could always ask!

[@exrhodie1234]

Rob, nice review but is the new one any longer? I have the original but I'm just under 6' 3" and it's too short. I also get shoulder squeeze.

[@robpelton]

Same dimensions. They advertise as fitting up to 6’6”. I find that hard to believe. Haha. I get some squeeze as well, but nothing I can’t manage. YMMV.

[@onetimeoutdoorsdj1394]

Hey brother I have the original warbonnet ridgerunner and I also have a set of carbon-fiber poles for it if I was to upgrade to the new ridgerunner can I still use my original carbon-fiber poles

[@robpelton]

Yes!

[@MotoDUDEabides]

1:32 is that Bigfoot??? 😂

[@jeaninemaldonado3343]

Hi currently I have a REI quarter dome bridge hammock. I am looking to upgrade to warbonnet ridge hammock and 13 ft thunderfly. However, with the REI everything came together. And now with the warbonnet I am faced with way to many choices, I don’t completely understand. I really want this set to be easy like the REI one.

[@robpelton]

Hi Jeanine! I too made the switch from the QDA to the WBRR. Just a few things you’ll need. Shoot me an email and I can provide links. [e-mail]. Thanks for watching!

[@livefreeordie9542]

Was that a nosy neighbor or bigfoot creeping up on you in the woods behind you at 1:29 ?

[@robpelton]

It was my neighbor, Bigfoot. Haha

[@jimf1964]

I’ve wanted to get into hammock camping for a long time, but you have to get the hammock, the pad, the quilt, and the tarp, and it seems that by the time you’re finished, it’s more expensive and even heavier than an ultralight tent. Then what if there aren’t any good trees in your sight that are the right distance? And a big ALSO, is that I can’t find anywhere to try one before I buy. It seems tents are always set up to try, but I guess they don’t want people messing around in the hammocks or something, but there is never one on display.

[@robpelton]

Hammocks have their pros & cons no doubt. I’d 86 the pad and go with an Underquilt. There is also a bit of a fidget factor. High end tent setups are lighter and you can do more in a tent rather than hammock. However, the level of sleep comfort, at least for me, is the factor that pulls me over the fence. Sleep is unrivaled. Worth it to me. Regarding “try before you buy”, you’re right. There isn’t a place to go for that. Best bet is to know someone who has different setups or attend a hammock event. Thanks for watching Jim!

[@ivanrico961]

I’ve seen them on display just hanging from a rack so people could feel the material REI Orlando

[@cynvision]

@@ivanrico961 Come over to Hang Con in Brooksville Florida 1/12/2023 - 1/16/2023

[@topbrasstv8867]

Could I use wooden poles on this hammock if I made some?

[@robpelton]

I done see why not!

[@topbrasstv8867]

@@robpelton cool, that just means extra space

[@topbrasstv8867]

@@robpelton cool, that just means extra space

[@Parrott65]

Which Myers suspension is that? They have multiple choices.

[@robpelton]

Video on exactly that soon!!

[@am0berg]

Is this the dark red d40?

[@robpelton]

All Dream-Tex is equivalent to a 40D

[@mudbone7706]

How do you like the Dream-Tex 40D fabric now? Do you think it's worth the 4 extra ounces over 30D nylon?

[@robpelton]

I really like it. Does it make a huuuge difference? Not really. If looking to trim as much as possible. Go 30D. Thanks for watching!

[@jamesthornton3339]

Or you have a friend who owns a ridge runner and want to help them out. Good info Rob.

[@urface187]

This help me figure out where to attach the ridge line. Now you and I don’t have to mod it.

[@nedsled2994]

For the weight, you can't put the new suspension system on the older hammock? I didn't get how you say the new system is now slightly lighter then the old system if you mod the suspension? Thanks for the video going over the changes

[@robpelton]

Hey Ned! There is weight savings in trying out different suspensions. Yes, the old hammock and new suspension would’ve been the lightest combo. I, however, no longer own the old one. The new Ridgerunner is a heavier fabric, which I really like. I’m a little weight conscience when it comes to gear, but Im ok with the weight of my sleep system because of the quality sleep I get.

[@John-hp7tz]

Hi Rob.....new subscriber! Is your Ruta Locura carbon fiber "Front" spreader bar 2 or 3 sections? He offers both. Is your "foot" section 2 sections? Thanks.

[@robpelton]

Both are 2 sections. I decided on that for simplicity.

[@mcmmilo]

are thy single ore double

[@robpelton]

Double!

[@mikesears2857]

is the dream fabric standard? I just got my hammock last week when I ordered it it didn't give me options as to fabric so I don't know what I got

[@robpelton]

It is not. When you choose your color, the fabric options appear then.

[@kristalann1973]

Great information Rob! I have a hammock and gear in my cart but somehow I can’t seem to finally buy a set up...I really want to move away from tents but I am mostly a side sleeper and occasional a belly sleeper I’m concerned that I won’t be able to sleep very good in a hammock🧐any thoughts on that? Thanks!

[@robpelton]

Try and borrow one! Where are you located?

[@paddlepower888]

My friend has a jackrbetter bear mountain bridge hammock. He sleeps exclusively belly down.

[@Pablito46]

Would you happen to know the diameter of those carbon fiber spread bars?

[@robpelton]

.75”

[@Pablito46]

@@robpelton You rock! Thanks!

[@paddlepower888]

Is the layout flat enough that you don't feel your back arched when you lie on your belly?

[@robpelton]

It is very flat by hammock standards. I can comfortable sleeping in my side. A complete stomach lay is possible, but you’re I’ll get a bit of curve. So, not comfy for a long time. Thanks for the question and for watching!

[@user-0013-tx]

Would you recommend buying a new RR, or finding one on eBay of somewhere else?

[@robpelton]

Used is usually fine, but there’s always exceptions. Hard to tell how much wear it would have. My first one was used and it was great! My 2nd one was new and it’s great! YMMV. Thanks for watching!

[@edgley]

I watched all your vids on the Ridge Runner and am happy to say I just got one delivered. My wallet however has a bone to pick with you.

[@robpelton]

Haha. Uh...you’re welcome??

[@edgley]

@@robpelton trust me its a good thing :)

[@davidmead8990]

Rob I know the Ridgerunner is the one I want but undecided on the color. Red looks sharp! What color was your old model? Thanks Sir!

[@robpelton]

My old one was brown. The biggest difference is the Dream-Tex material of the red one. It feels like a bed sheet. I love it.

[@thebandit7404]

Thanks Rob, you’re the man!

[@robpelton]

Thanks for watching!

[@ricardoneto7789]

Thanks for pointing out the Ridgerunner differences😉✌️is the ridgeline mod on the new ridgerunner standard on their hammocks now or optional?

[@robpelton]

Standard on the Ridgerunner.

[@luuk4089]

Excellent! I was just looking for a comparison! Thanks! Too bad it's so ridiculously expensive to get one in The Netherlands! I'm using a dutchware chameleon right now, and I'm in to try something new, and the ridgerunner is on the shortlist.

[@robpelton]

I hope you can get your hands on one. Let me know if you do!

[@buffyvachon8026]

When you start changing out parts, it’s hard to follow and compare stats

[@robpelton]

I get lost in the details too! Bottom line, Dream-Tex is the way to go. Bare the weight for sleep comfort. Thanks for watching!

[@Toots807]

I like the video but you left me with more questions than answers. #1 where do you get your good looks? #2How do you chat with future time travelling Rob from 2021? You know if you had a beard you would look like a space wizard. #3 So future editing Rob is a time traveller from 2021, what hike dose Rob going next?

[@edwfd356]

Sasquatch was behind you at 1.30 🗿

[@robpelton]

Creeper. Haha.

[@fallofmanbrand]

great video bro

[@jakecolvin3167]

@5:13 you say a word everyone says it no one says it clearly (you talk amazingly clear on every word but this not a dig at all) road rain loop? Roan grain loop? Rogain rope, roadrange, grow gain loop. Btw best backpacking channel on KZbin. You blow the doors off Ban Deckers channel bro🤙

[@robpelton]

Ooh! Tell me more in how awesome I am. Lol. Very kind of you. The word is “grosgrain”. Pronounced “grow-grain”. Hope this helps and thanks for the support!

[@MikeycatOutdoors]

They don't make 'em in red anymore

[@robpelton]

What?! It’s such a good color.

[@MikeycatOutdoors]

@@robpelton I know. I was going to get a red Warbonnet recently and they stopped carrying the red fabric around Christmas. I looked around at several hammock vendors and the only one who still stocks red is Dutchware Gear. Hammock Gewr stocks red quilts as does Loco Libre, but no red hammocks either. Trailheadz & Dream hammocks don't offer red either. Cherish that thing. It's gold. I settled on a red Dutchware half zip for a summer setup. A fully loaded Banyan or Chameleon were too rich for the moment. The Ridgerunner is a better value.

[@jstep100]

Good stuff

[@robpelton]

Thankee.

[@ikemouser2580]

Just got a ridge runner, i will never go back to asyms

[@robpelton]

😮 welcome to the club!!

[@extremewc]

When I bought my RR a few years ago I also bought attachments to use trekking poles instead of spreader bars. However, I haven’t been able to find poles that work with these attachments, has anyone done this? Or know what trekking poles would work? Thx

[@robpelton]

They have a few models available with a tripod mount . Not great IMO. You’d also have to purchased the adapters.

[@mikeghost7788]

Well if I had waited till the end lol.

[@DonHavjuan]

I have one and it's great, but it's still UNSTABLE AF compared to my Haven.

[@robpelton]

I have no experience with the haven. Can you backpack with it? Thanks for watching!

[@kramertime109]

Anyone catch bigfoot in the background @1:30

[@robpelton]

Yeah….he does that. Haha.

[@ScinnerNo1]

Someone is spying on you in the background @1:30

[@robpelton]

Creepers...lol

[@uppertributaries]

Too many adds..

[@thebrizzy]

I think we all want to skip passed 2020

[@robpelton]

Haha. Right??!