Ballistics and cartridges of the US smooth bore musket of the 1850-1860s

[@ElChris816]

Great video. I could watch you make cartridges and package them up for hours.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

I DO! for years, always Love his work, and silly giggles when he smacks a steel target

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Fantastic content. You and everythingblackpowder. Can’t beat it

[@timothyedge6100]

This video answers YEARS of wondering I have had. Many thanks!

[@hublehardos8472]

Bonjour de France! You are a great hero of our passion ! Glory to your work!

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Keep your Smoke Poles SMOKING!!

[@bwhog]

I have one of these that was retrofitted in ~1855 to percussion ignition. It is one of my all time favorite arms to take out to the desert for some fun! I don't have the right weight paper so I've made due with drawing paper which, when you compromise a bit on the dimensions, gives four good trapezoids per sheet. It still rams home just fine and gives no problems with ignition. I store my cartridges in a plastic container meant for 12 gauge shotgun rounds and the tail tucks nicely down along side them in their individual compartments. (If I am making them well ahead of time, I will tape it shut so it is air tight.) One thing I lack is the right size mold for buckshot. So I can't load those rounds. I find that I have to brush my musket's bore about every 10-20 shots in order to be able to keep loading. However, please note that each soldier might only carry 20 rounds in his cartridge case. So this is quite acceptable for the day. What the ballistic chart at 10:35 shows is that "aim for the knees" was not about recoil, as some have ignorantly said for many years. It was about ballistics at skirmishing ranges and specifically applied to smooth bore muskets and not to rifled muskets which had a flatter trajectory. It was about firing at soldiers who were advancing, crouched down, as a way to attempt to guarantee a hit on the torso and a fatal wound.

[@capandball]

Lee has a nice 30 cal buckshot mold. And yes, the ballistic vureve tells a lot why shots were high so often. And the 100-120 m distance is the distance where you start seeing the white of the eye of the enemy. The distance that seems close enough for an effective volley.

[@NathanDudani]

Makes sense at around 2 feet of height and 400 foot range

[@level98bearhuntingarmor]

Buck and Ball sounds like the best of both worlds to me

[@elgato3502]

Дивовижне відео. Коли, не просто стрільба, а і науково-фізичне обгрунтування. Плюс патрони. Це дивовижне дійство для бувалого військово-історичного реконструктора.👍 Особливо штамп на папірці для пачки патронів. Одразу пригадую нашу реконструкцію Громадської Війни США до 2022 року. Ми мали копії патронних ящиків, ящиків для сухарів, копії етикеток для пляшок. Я також роздрукував копію карти бойових дій у штаті Вірджинія на 1863 рік

[@gorbalsboy]

Excellent, I was shooting the Remington new model army this morning, quite a learning curve , luckily my club (shandon rifle and pistol club, Scotland)has members with decades of experience, can't imagine trying to do it on my own ,all the best from sunny Troon 😊

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Built my 58 kit as a paperboy in 1976(our Yank Bicentennial) she still looks shoots great. Never did read any books about paper cartridges, just diy'ed my ojt and considered history. looking at the first historic rolled cigarettes and their machines while fighting to find good papers, my revolver loads now look like a tootsie roll with the powders and quantity I want in batches very fast and easy. The I stuff the projectile on the charge I want, easy and fast, can change from any conical to ball with same powder charges. Charges for my stoners get a longer tag end fold, I use this longer tag end to hold the priming pan charge with easy motion I safely charge and stuff desired projo, while in same position, then bring her up and use the tag end fold to charge my pan AFTER I rammed and prepped, gives me a last chance for a pan inspection too. Not historically know if correct, but it works. Our ancestors where smart and efficient as Cold Be, like any good predator must be. FYI i use this for some cappers to with the cap in the fold, no more twice rooting around a pouch with useless second motion. Lets face it? No military would "publish" ideas the enemies could use against the publishers? maybe quite the opposite? Keep your Smoke Poles SMOKING!

[@ABSilverback]

Great video, it was very informative and interesting to learn about the musket cartridges.

[@renemosca4285]

I've watched so many of your uploads, I really enjoy them. The best part is your authentic enthusiasm. You do a great job. Keep up the good work. Rene

[@TheGrenadier97]

Cartridge-making from this era feels so crafty and homely, kind of like handwoven goods by artisans from the nearby village. Seems to me the maker also have more room to experiments and modifications. I guess it's quite a calming pastime as well.

[@bmariette6496]

Merci Monsieur pour cette apprentissage de qualité ! Je suis captivé par vos vidéos sur les munitions anciennes ! Merci beaucoup ❤

[@gussie88bunny]

Watching you make those paper cartridges is very relaxing, almost an ASMR experience. Thank you for sharing

[@capandball]

Relaxing for me too :)

[@gussie88bunny]

@@capandball huzzah!

[@pascuallorenzojuan-pedrorojas]

Buck and ball cartridges look like an interesting configuration. Thanks a lot for that very interesting video 👍🏻 and good luck for the championship ✌🏻

[@JamesSmith-is7co]

Great shots!!

[@marcsewell7275]

Love the smoothbores. Thanks for the knowledge.

[@oddrocket2743]

The part I enjoyed the most was the velocity pendulum. You should make a video that compares its accuracy to chronographs. Very interesting.

[@capandball]

That's a perfect idea!

[@samparkerSAM]

Hello from New Orleans Louisiana, Perfect timing! I just got a M1816 and M1842 both in 69 caliber.

[@capandball]

:) Both in shooting condition?

[@samparkerSAM]

@@capandball the M1816 is , the M1842 was turned into a carbine. I bought the M1842 for parts.

[@nunyabizness4354]

Thanks again! I love the content and the way you present it.

[@marktroiani5401]

Watching this is like therapy

[@humansvd3269]

I'm learning about my nation's firearm history from a European. Oh, how ironic! But very informative. Thank you for the video.

[@samparkerSAM]

Don't be discouraged, this gentleman is among the most knowledgeable in the world. I sell similar muskets and know a great deal, however this channel is a great classroom. The amount of research in each episode is obvious, a great resource... absolutely amazing.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

The Nation was founded by Europeans.

[@humansvd3269]

@@chickenfishhybrid44Water is wet.

[@heiliger_sturm]

@@chickenfishhybrid44aka the only people who actually found nations.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

@@humansvd3269 right, kind of minimizes the irony

[@ianhowick]

Mordecai was an observer during the Crimean War if i remember correctly. I think Paper Cartridges covered his career in a little bit more depth.

[@SlingAndStones]

Nothing fits the hands of the American man quite like the smoothbore. To this day, it is one of our favorite tools.

[@SlingAndStones]

Just picked up a new air rifle!!!

[@RicArmstrong]

As kids we used to canoe the Antetiam creek which of course is near the Antetiam Civil War battlefield. One year there was a severe drought and the creek was incredibly low. My buddy noticed a "pipe" sticking out of the river bank and we pulled it out and it was a rusty musket barrel that the wooden stock decomposed long ago. It was an amazing found and we often wondered who carried it and if it saw battle.

[@Aminuts2009]

I am so jealous that you have one of those and I do not. Love the content by the way long time subscriber. Edit: I love that you did the science too.

[@jordanezell5132]

We love you!

[@woli6872]

Very well done!

[@capuchinhelper]

I love your dog!

[@capandball]

Me too.

[@rdmckeever7645]

Lovely video as usual. Did you mention the specifications for the twine used to tie off the buck & ball? Sorry if I missed it.

[@capandball]

The 1841 ordnance manual does not say too muck about it. "Twine, should be strong, smooth, and well twisted-0.03 in. thick for bund¬ ling cartridges, &c., and for sewing fire balls-from 0.06 in. to 0.03 in., for fix¬ ing ammunition, &c."

[@rdmckeever7645]

@@capandball thank you. It is interesting that they did not specify the type(s) of material(s) the twine should be made with.

[@jonathansongco4302]

Excellent!

[@EastBayFlipper]

Everything Black Powder might have some disagreement with the relative power provided by us military black powder and Swiss. They experiment a lot 😊

[@capandball]

Can happen. I can only tell what was measured at the range.

[@joearledge1]

​@@capandballI assume you've seen his channel(Everything Blackpowder) and Hoffman Reproductions channel. If not, I think you would really like them. They focus on making homemade BP with Everything Blackpowder leading the charge. They have learned a ton and have matched or beaten Swiss for power and/or cleanliness. Anyway, keep up the good work Sir

[@Rudi-Mhz]

Good Information about the Past. To know what a rifle can do, explains a lot of the history in the civil War or the Napoleon Times. It was simply not possible to shoot all that accurate and the Tactics must have bin adaptet to that. At some Fighting Places at Waterloo, the Archeologists used such newer Informations to find the exakt Hot Spots on the Field. Thank you and go on ! Kind regards from Germany, Rudi. P.S. Our Fortress in Scharzfeld was blown up by the French Troups of Napoleon. After a long Siege of the Fortress, wich was defendet by an Artillerie Invalide Korps from Hannover....About a 100 Invalide Artillerists against 5000 Troopers....not best Page in the History of the French. Now Friends for ever i hope !

[@JoZf_Gibson]

Merci

[@Stormpriest]

Where can one get pattern majors like that? I have a Howdah Hunter's pistol in 20 gauge, that can take upwards of 90 grains. I've got that covered but my Colt Walker to keep it from turning into a grenade with a pistol grip. I need specifically 50 grains pistol powder per chamber. Even Dixie gun works doesn't seem to have anything that precise

[@JOSHUA-zy6cu]

For this type of test, in order to be able to more accurately reproduce the ballistic capabilities of these old cartridges, it would be optimal after a series of research to reproduce a gunpowder as similar as possible to that used at the time, perhaps using the same carbon source for preparation. As always great video👍

[@capandball]

Unfortunately I do not have a legal way here to make black power.

[@JOSHUA-zy6cu]

I carry out a small production of black powder on a hobby level trying to perfect it more and more with the aim of qualitatively surpassing the most important global brands such as Swiss. It's a really interesting world and it would be really nice to carry out a collaboration to produce black powder corresponding to each historical period, taking any type of historical reenactment to another level.

[@ryann5247]

you should only have 1 string going between your layers not 2 on the buck and ball and buckshot cartridges. This is actually meant to be a half hitch on each layer, not a granny knot. Fourth armory has a good video of how to tie this

[@capandball]

Yes, one string should be the right way to tie.

[@iduswelton9567]

In my godfather's weapons collection he had both cap&ball and flintlock rifles and pistols - I prefer the cap&ball weapons mostly because I am a left hand shooter - that flash from the flintlock powder isn't any fun for lefties 😮

[@CharlesDean-y7u]

How much of the 110 grains goes into the flashpan? Does this reduce accuracy of powder down the bore?

[@capandball]

Approximately 10 grains.

[@kirkstinson7316]

But isnt the US model 1822 jyst an 1816 with the sling swivle in a different location? As in 1816, 1822, and 1825 are ALL 1816 varies

[@capandball]

They are all one genere. No significant changes in parameters.

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[@AS40143]

How is the accuracy at 150 yards?

[@capandball]

You'll see in the next chapter.

[@AS40143]

@@capandball great!

[@alansmith8837]

Oh c&b youre talking about american civil war we need ft per sec

[@RUHappyATM]

So, that's what a cartridge factory looks like in the early 1800's.

[@capandball]

With more children and no dog. :)

[@verfugbarkite]

I’ve started habitually saying “secundum”

[@capandball]

Inherited that from the physics classes of elementary school. :)

[@verfugbarkite]

@@capandball makes it sound more authoritative and scientific. Anyway, thanks for your vids, i have used them as a highly valued reference over the past few years.

[@marciodossantosmanganelli2542]

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[@genericpersonx333]

For myself, it is welcome to have someone pointing out that American Ordnance officers of the 19th century were every bit as serious about their work as their peers in the "great armies" of the age despite the tiny size of the US Army and underwhelming government support of said BuOrd personnel. Often, the narrative is that Americans were backwards and behind Europe in all military matters because they were a poor nation focused on fighting savages, not a great army preparing for great wars with peer-opponents. In some ways, this was true, but definitely not for BuOrd!!! I dare consider challenging anyone to read an American Ordnance report and find it any less tedious and overly-technical as anything coming out of France, Britain, or Prussia!

[@capandball]

I agree with you. The work of the Ordnance Department is up to date.

[@theolewell7535]

:)

[@Almost_Made_It]

I don’t understand how non native English speakers can speak English so fast. I watch almost every video on 2x speed but not yours because I can’t keep up with how fast you speak English. Other foreign speakers too. It’s like you all understand English more than we do even if your pronunciation is different. If I tried to speak the little Hungarian that I know, you would probably need to speed it up 5x to make it sound like a normal speed.

[@capandball]

I also speak Hungarian fast. I am used to holding university courses where we seldom have enough time. But would be good to slow down.

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[@user-ci8le8qt7u]

Amazing how would the world turnout to be without guns.

[@spiffinz]

Much more savage I think

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

Before firearms, there were rocks, knives, swords, slingshots and bow and arrows.

[@deletdis6173]

Lol obvious troll is obvious 😂🤣

[@michaelschmitzerle2587]

And spears!

[@gorankatic40000bc]

Crossovers of Ancient and Medieval tactics in the 21st century - 3 anticavalry solutions: 1. Hussites' Wagenburg 2. Swiss-Flemmish-Scottish pikes and 3. Welsh-English longbow. I bet developed countries of the 21st century would organize a million of their professional soldiers into never before seen combined arms formations of Wagenburgs full of longbowmen, pikemen and other cold steel wielding professional fellas. World without firearms? We managed before so we'll manage again (i.e. we'll keep managing).

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