BambuLab X1 Custom Firmware is ALMOST Here!

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Nero3D the Canuck Creator

Nero3D the Canuck Creator

5 ай бұрын

Shout out to the X1 Plus team for all the awesome work!
requires FW version 1.7.00 to be installed
1.7.1 and newer disables the ability to install this CFW, if you have updated you can revert to an earlier revision of the FW using the bambustudio handy app on your phone
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@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
NEW EDIT: Statement from Bambulab blog.bambulab.com/rooted-the-good-the-bad-and-freedom-of-choice/ ORIGINAL POST As of this morning (dec 27) bambulab has removed the ability to revert your firmware through the handy app, updates to hopefully follow (you can still try, it may still show for some people, again need to b e on v1.7.0 or older to work) CFW being a thing for the X1 series of printers should hopefully open up a whole new world of features and abilities on the printer, what do you want to see most?
@redboom9874
@redboom9874 5 ай бұрын
Any idea if custom firmware will be a thing for P1 series?
@ChromakeyDreamcoat
@ChromakeyDreamcoat 5 ай бұрын
Looks like you can't downgrade to 1.7.0. Only 1.6.5 shows up.
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
@@ChromakeyDreamcoat ya looks like the recently removed the 1.7.0 option....the x1+ team is verifying if 1.6.5 works (it should**)
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 5 ай бұрын
Damn - I just did - why not 1.6.5?
@simonjolmers903
@simonjolmers903 5 ай бұрын
I only see the 1.6.5 version for my x1c. Why not down rade to this version?
@ygk3d
@ygk3d 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Wasn’t expecting this. Very interesting to see. I don’t have any major gripes with the stock firmware, to be honest, but it looks there could be some useful additions in this custom firmware. Thanks for the info!
@caedis_
@caedis_ 5 ай бұрын
Any bets on if Bambu is going to prevent downgrading in the future?
@absak
@absak 5 ай бұрын
you can bet it, it's against their own good..
@ChromakeyDreamcoat
@ChromakeyDreamcoat 5 ай бұрын
I think they are already preventing people from downgrading. I cant downgrade to 1.7.0. only 1.6.5 shows up lol massive L bambu
@Juiceboxmakes
@Juiceboxmakes 5 ай бұрын
Yeah there's no way they'll let this fly. Foss updates will out pace them. They're already on to this.
@Volt64bolt
@Volt64bolt 5 ай бұрын
Luckily the community will always find a way
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 5 ай бұрын
As I said above, I just downgraded to 1.6.5 just in case they block downgrading.
@TH3DStudio
@TH3DStudio 5 ай бұрын
This is amazing. We just ordered a P1P and a X1C!
@jacobsdr
@jacobsdr 5 ай бұрын
Love the tiko in the background! I had one and could barely get a bench off it!
@JohnOlson
@JohnOlson 5 ай бұрын
Awesome to see this. Now, to see what Bambu does to prevent this sort of thing.
@JohnOlson
@JohnOlson 5 ай бұрын
Would be awesome to see X1 Plus team add that farm management software that was mentioned during a previous live stream.
@MrKornnugget
@MrKornnugget 5 ай бұрын
Bambu developers are frantically typing code through the holidays. 😂 the jail broke Bambu will be worth a ton a year from now.
@AbjectMaelstrom
@AbjectMaelstrom 5 ай бұрын
To start, they blocked downgrades from 1.7.1+ 😂
@JasonMisterDude
@JasonMisterDude 5 ай бұрын
This is "Apple vs Jailbreakers" all over again
@webslinger2011
@webslinger2011 5 ай бұрын
Hope they open source like what bigtreetech is doing. Been buying btt boards and displays for my DIY printers.
@drhoge2037
@drhoge2037 5 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas! This is huge!
@spaghettipubes8550
@spaghettipubes8550 5 ай бұрын
Just checked my X1C and I no longer have the ability to downgrade.
@OKManNoOne
@OKManNoOne 5 ай бұрын
i see that you print a loot of abs, do you have some recommended way to clean carbon rods and your bambu inside?
@Timmit99
@Timmit99 5 ай бұрын
Great video, usefull info!
@drunken_physics
@drunken_physics 5 ай бұрын
i have a lot of bambu x1c printers and when i go to revert back in the handy app it just says no content for many of them! only 30% of them would let me roll back
@BlueFire778
@BlueFire778 5 ай бұрын
Downgrading right now. I just have a important question. IF i decide to use the custom firmware... am i able to revert it to the bambulab OS or would i be stuck with the custom one?
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
Yes, he said in another comment that it’s essentially booting from sd card and when taking it out it’s just starting from the original firmware
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
So, if it boots from the sd card. Doesn’t that essentially mean that it’s something that can’t be patched via firmware (like with nvidia tegra rcm), but only by hardware revision?
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 ай бұрын
This is very exciting. Especially if you can easily roll back
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
as of right now, the CFW is boots off the SD card in the screen, so if you reboot with it not there, it`ll just run the normal OEM FW And for now, the bambuhandy app lets you revert the FW version to a compatible revision for the install itself......for now
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 5 ай бұрын
@@CanuckCreator I guess its currently basically linux live disc booting. I have to wonder what prevents installation. I know there ars mechanisms to lock writing that often become the barrier to work against on products like this.
@AbjectMaelstrom
@AbjectMaelstrom 5 ай бұрын
If you're on 1.7.1 it is no longer possible to downgrsdey(according to the talk in FB groups). I'm still on 1.7.0 and not upgrading (LAN mode).
@Yeltrah
@Yeltrah 5 ай бұрын
Awesome to see this exists!
@Reds3DPrinting
@Reds3DPrinting 5 ай бұрын
Would be amazing to see this on the a1 series!
@turkotv6815
@turkotv6815 5 ай бұрын
great video! Does that mean i potentiality can run Klipper on a X1C right?
@d3c0deFPV
@d3c0deFPV 5 ай бұрын
Very cool and first I'd heard of this. I can tell from your voice that you're excited too. I would assume this is root level access?
@dgusw
@dgusw 5 ай бұрын
awesome news... thanks a lot!
@JustCuzRobotics
@JustCuzRobotics 5 ай бұрын
Quite interesting, I didnt realize the Bambu printers are just running embedded Linux OS tho I guess that makes sense. I wonder if you can set higher bed and nozzle temps with this, I expect that you can 'unlock' the extra 20C nozzle that the X1E can do on the X1C. I just bought some QIDI PAHT-Cf filament that has recommended nozzle temp of 300C-320C and I wish I could get that extra bump.
@ChrisEpler
@ChrisEpler 5 ай бұрын
Linux is used in more places than you may think.
@layeredwork
@layeredwork 5 ай бұрын
Where does your informations come from? If this is a custom firmware, I guess it should be open source. So, what is the GitHub repo?
@haddonist
@haddonist 5 ай бұрын
just going on Nero's status in the community, it's likely the jailbreaking crew are talking to him directly and using him as a tester. And where is it? Not released yet except to those in the beta group
@pokegeaks2
@pokegeaks2 5 ай бұрын
What about those that buy the x1c at a later date and may not have the option for reverting the firmware?
@Hybrid.Robotics
@Hybrid.Robotics 5 ай бұрын
If you access your X1 using your web browser, do you get a Klipper or other web GUI??
@zviratko
@zviratko 5 ай бұрын
If I understand it correctly then the jailbreak is not of the printer itself but of the touchscreen and controller? Hopefully this means BL should be more comfortable with people just adding functionality there, assuming the rest has some safeguards and most of their IP is in the ESP32 firmware... Not that it won't get dumped one day as well or grabbed from a firmware image once we have the keys. I wonder if this means the RFID encryption keys will be exposed as well? I wonder how this will play out, will we get proper X1 fakes from random Ali seller in a few months? Clones that work with Bambu cloud? Fake filament spools that were suspiciously cheap? This is what BL were afraid of.
@sogethgrimley
@sogethgrimley 5 ай бұрын
genuinely , curious. pretty positive this is not for me but i would like to be informed but, why the need ? as far as i can tell the printer firmware is just fine and functions perfectly. is it for those who want more control than the bambu offers ?
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
Yep, some people just like to see the raw data or for example instead of streaming camera through bambu cloud it would be nice if it was possible to just host a web server with video stream directly on the printer
5 ай бұрын
Where do I get this firmware?
@voktanagain5106
@voktanagain5106 5 ай бұрын
With x1e replacement parts hitting the market could you imagine implementing those on the x1c? Mainly the chamber heater?
@aaronw1375
@aaronw1375 5 ай бұрын
It would be a more than just new firmware for that, IIRC the X1E has a different mainboard with the heater controller.
@voktanagain5106
@voktanagain5106 5 ай бұрын
@@aaronw1375 i think that one could also be bought as a replacement part
@kylek29
@kylek29 5 ай бұрын
Heck, those utilities are enough to make me do this. It's always annoyed me we can't see this stuff.
@pewpewpops
@pewpewpops 5 ай бұрын
If you change to this custom firmware, are you able to go back to stock firmware?
@kuhnikuehnast1352
@kuhnikuehnast1352 5 ай бұрын
But where can I download it? I wanna give a try
@absak
@absak 5 ай бұрын
oh boy cannot wait for the bambulab klipper update, we came full circle
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 5 ай бұрын
Not possible, the linux is on the display only, meaning x1 has linux (even stated by bambu) while the p1 does not. Also the way that the bambu controls the steppers is different than on normal printers. The bambu does not have stepper drivers in a conventional sense. On a normal stepper driver, lets say a tmc2209, you have a chip that takes the input (uart, step/dir/enable, etc.) and with that information controls the mosfets. It also generates the sime curve for moving the stepper. On a bambu all that is done by the processor, this is also partially the reason why it has a 200mhz cpu for xyz motion. So even though you could probably install klipper on the display and mcu it would be pretty pointless as tge printer wont be able to do some thing.
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@kilianlindlbauer8277 Why are you saying this like it’s completely impossible? Klipper does usually handle things differently, but it’s still possible to port the code. Linux has a direct communication line (for controlling all motors from the display, choosing the print file etc) with any of the proprietary chips like the on the toolhead, so there’s a way to control the printer with ported klipper, we just need to do it.
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 5 ай бұрын
@@maka6000 you would need to replicate the stepper driving software as well as find out the pinout of the board. Not impossible, but how long does it take to get equal performance? What about the "lidar" scanner? Also, what about the p1 series? No linux there, youd need a sbc or similar. A1 series would be even more difficult as they use load cells for monitoring belt tension and resonance. Yet developers still struggle to implement strain gauge reading for nozzle probing and clog detection similar to what a prusa mk4 has. To my knowledge they even strapped a mk4 toolhead onto a voron test machine
@absak
@absak 5 ай бұрын
i mean, that is speculation but seeing what they did with their slicer i wouldn't be so surprise we get some kind of remix into a klipper host, it cannot be THAT much different...altough speculation i wouldn't be so surprised...@@kilianlindlbauer8277
@tranilator
@tranilator 5 ай бұрын
Great news. Can you ask the team if there's any hope for those poor buggers on 1.7.1?
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
@roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 5 ай бұрын
This is so cool!
@akierum
@akierum 5 ай бұрын
So where is download link?
@KielNicholls
@KielNicholls 5 ай бұрын
I knew you knew something was coming when you kept going on about the firmware!!
@TDHobbies
@TDHobbies 5 ай бұрын
I was about to order p1s, I hope we can get into that one change camera and other things.
@TriptyX
@TriptyX 5 ай бұрын
nope
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
So this explains Bambu's recent change to their terms of service when you modify firmware.
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
And thank god they did that. It would be quite stupid to replace parts under a warranty that were broken because someone had some bug in their cfw. It’s weird they didn’t do it earlier.
@oyvindreynen3800
@oyvindreynen3800 5 ай бұрын
Bambu the engineers do this day in day out, all day long, along comes a grown man that lives with his mom,thinks he knows better just because he watches KZbin 😂
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
@@oyvindreynen3800 Typical wumao response
@oyvindreynen3800
@oyvindreynen3800 5 ай бұрын
@@UnCoolDad go kiss your mommy goodnight
@woodwaker1
@woodwaker1 5 ай бұрын
This will make Grant's day! and for sure Nathan's What did they do after 1.7.0 to make this not work?
@Rainmotorsports
@Rainmotorsports 5 ай бұрын
This wasn't news for Grant really. Those in the loop already knew.
@woodwaker1
@woodwaker1 5 ай бұрын
@@Rainmotorsports I hope Grant can show me to how to downgrade my firmware
@24KG24
@24KG24 5 ай бұрын
So just back from 1.7.1 to 1.7.0 and it will work ?
@itsJules8
@itsJules8 5 ай бұрын
this for the p1s/p1p would be a dream :( maybe this implementation gives people an idea on how to do this on them (I know they are quite different to the x1)
@viru52000
@viru52000 5 ай бұрын
That explains why a couple days ago Bambu updated their warranty language to say that custom firmware voids the warranty...
@georgijsnovikovs2260
@georgijsnovikovs2260 5 ай бұрын
Common bambu L
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 5 ай бұрын
@@georgijsnovikovs2260 Literally no one would say otherwise including prusa who literally has e fuses trip
@maka6000
@maka6000 5 ай бұрын
They didn’t say modified firmware voids the warranty. They say that if something breaks because of modified firmware then it’s not their fault. Where’s the problem with that?
@viru52000
@viru52000 5 ай бұрын
@@maka6000 never said it was a problem, Prusa makes you cut a trace on their newer boards to install custom firmware, which basically voids the warranty. Just thought it was interesting that they add it to their warranty language right before this happens, almost like they know what's happening with their machines...
@Validole
@Validole 5 ай бұрын
You think they didn't know from the community that there was a group working on it? It doesn't take a three letter agency, if you are the owner and moderator of a discord with many users, some of whom probably discussing it.
@user-xc4ou5vy2x
@user-xc4ou5vy2x 5 ай бұрын
Does it able to make the hotend breaks the limit of 300℃ and make x1c works like x1e to print some higher temperature filaments?And will you extend some functions like active cabin temperature control support to allow us add in a certain device to warm up the cabin?
@thelightspeed3d712
@thelightspeed3d712 5 ай бұрын
This is very cool
@KaloyanDobrev
@KaloyanDobrev 5 ай бұрын
What is the github repository?
@3D_Printing
@3D_Printing 5 ай бұрын
Their software shoul do thus anyway. Well done to the code makers
@Barnacules
@Barnacules 5 ай бұрын
This is so freaking amazing @Nero3D 👏 I knew it was a just a matter of time before someone jailbroke the X1 and I hope they can do the same for the new bed slingers also 🙏 I reached out to them to see if they decrypted the original firmware to find the exploit because I still want to compare it to some open source projects to see if any GPL was borrowed for the original firmware placed behind a "closed source" veil.
@Relics
@Relics 2 ай бұрын
You should 3D print another AR Lower
@wooferaverage
@wooferaverage 5 ай бұрын
We gonna be able to poke around now and find open source license violations?
@dilloncarter1357
@dilloncarter1357 5 ай бұрын
Should we be worried about Bambu forcing an automatic update?
@jardane
@jardane 5 ай бұрын
Is that a Tiko printer in the background? I got one from the original kickstarter, it's so bad.
@vinnycordeiro
@vinnycordeiro 5 ай бұрын
It is, and he bought it second hand. And showed on a stream that it is indeed bad.
@theultimatefindsbox7390
@theultimatefindsbox7390 5 ай бұрын
@Nero3D Can the Z offset be adjusted with this custom firmware.
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
at the moment, no, but you can see the results of your bed mesh (its taco-riffic!)
@andriusanryy5165
@andriusanryy5165 5 ай бұрын
iff my printers have firmware 01.07.01.00 no longer have the ability to downgrade.? no chance?
@pennywisdom2099
@pennywisdom2099 5 ай бұрын
This is great news, not even something I was expecting would happen. You mentioned running on an SD card so I assume it boots to the stock firmware without it? Not bricking my machine is obv a priority
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
As of now, that is the behavour, the CFW is running off the SD card and if you remove it, you boot into the OEM FW
@caedis_
@caedis_ 5 ай бұрын
Jailbreaking give you full ownership of the device. You are no longer limited to what the OS/software (the warden) allows you to do.
@paulrobinson270
@paulrobinson270 5 ай бұрын
Buy a closed source printer in a world with 1000 open source printers and getting upset it's closed source 😅
@3D_Printing
@3D_Printing 5 ай бұрын
They may send users to jail
@AlexWithAStar
@AlexWithAStar 5 ай бұрын
@@3D_Printing Maybe in their country... but in countries like America, it's legal to do this, so it's not possible to go to jail for it. Granted, like I said, that does depend on your country.
@Mr2greys
@Mr2greys 5 ай бұрын
​@@AlexWithAStarDMCA enters the chat....
@kevinroach9380
@kevinroach9380 5 ай бұрын
@@paulrobinson270 they bitch like little nerds!
@LincolnWorld
@LincolnWorld 5 ай бұрын
Only 30 seconds in, so I apologize if this gets covered later in the video. Do you print a lot of ASA or ABS? The glass on your X1 looks pretty foggy. I've heard that ABS and ASA leave a film all over everything in the printer. I'm wondering if that is what that is from.
@bluerider0988
@bluerider0988 5 ай бұрын
Petg does. I print 90% petg and there is a film on the glass I have to clean off every few weeks. That's why I run a HEPA & Carbon filter. FYI I have a Prusa in an enclosure.
@tanaes
@tanaes 5 ай бұрын
Yes ABS/ASA leave a ton of condensate on the inside often the machine. This is also why you must periodically clean the carbon rails when printing ABS on the X1, or they start binding.
@patrick39140
@patrick39140 5 ай бұрын
I'm on 1.7.1 and have no available downgrades in Bambu Handy. I'm wondering if they're now preventing downgrades?
@mowcius
@mowcius 5 ай бұрын
They are, yes.
@patrick39140
@patrick39140 5 ай бұрын
@mowcius so I guess you have to make your case in a ticket for why they should let you downgrade. That's not nice.
@gabrielcr78
@gabrielcr78 5 ай бұрын
Can you revert back to original.FW after have jailbroken it?
@marcostaffoli5798
@marcostaffoli5798 4 ай бұрын
It'is possible to know what programming language they have used?
@BabakRezai
@BabakRezai 5 ай бұрын
Did bambu manage to kill this off? No updates?
@Xi_da_butcher
@Xi_da_butcher 5 ай бұрын
is P1S also running Linux so in the future the jailbreaking is also possible?!
@Rattletrap-xs8il
@Rattletrap-xs8il 4 ай бұрын
Where do you get X1Plus?
@nmfireman
@nmfireman 5 ай бұрын
I wish we would get an update on this. I need to know how to get back to BL firmware if I'm having issues with the custom firmware. Some folks are saying they are being banned on some sites for even talking about this subject. I went back from 1.07.0 because the the BLLED controller would not work on that firmware and It was more important for me to have that feature than waiting for more information so I downgrading to 1.6.5. I know that the BLLED folks do have there controller firmware working on 1.07.01 at this time.
@TheRealOnes407
@TheRealOnes407 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone have a download link?
@ChrisBairKeto
@ChrisBairKeto 5 ай бұрын
I liked the smash button. Perfect CTA.
@treowayne
@treowayne 5 ай бұрын
I believe the P-series printers don't have an SoC and don't run Linux. It is my understanding that all the "processing" work is done by an ESP32 of some kind. I think it will probably require significant effort to port this to the P-series printers. I have a P1P with P1S conversion kit. I would like an aftermarket firmware in order to heat the bed hotter than 100 C.
@ljadf
@ljadf 5 ай бұрын
The P1P is being worked on for Octoprint compatibility.keep an eye open.
@NexGen-3D
@NexGen-3D 5 ай бұрын
Sounds a lot like RepRap...
@jmirodg7094
@jmirodg7094 5 ай бұрын
excellent!
@bcarroll03
@bcarroll03 4 ай бұрын
I need 2 things from this, unlocked nozzle temps so I can run 450c for PEKK and the ability to control chamber temp with an active heater. Awesome
@doitagain2874
@doitagain2874 3 ай бұрын
Me too, did it work?
@freaxbox4610
@freaxbox4610 5 ай бұрын
at the moment the only thing i would like to have is a cross compatible ams/ams lite option
@Printed_Visionz3D
@Printed_Visionz3D 5 ай бұрын
is there a link to the firmware? I am very interested @Nero3D
@jneilliii
@jneilliii 5 ай бұрын
just as I started my OctoPrint integration for Bambu printers over vacation break...
@anth0r
@anth0r 5 ай бұрын
I stopped my fuckin print too lol
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
How were you thinking of implementing this integration? Using lan mode ? It may still be worth doing for those who do not want to jailbreak.
@jneilliii
@jneilliii 5 ай бұрын
@@UnCoolDad using pybambu module that's part of the HA integration. Works in LAN only mode as that's how I run. Basically creates a virtual serial connection and virtual SD card to Bambi. Right now I have it uploading/listing/deleting files, monitoring temperatures, starting/pausing/canceling prints and got camera access using go2rtc that provides an hls stream for the control panel.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 5 ай бұрын
It says in the Description "1.7.1 and newer disables the ability to install this CFW" Is that a typo that should read 1.7.01 ?
@NoFutureKid
@NoFutureKid 5 ай бұрын
You know that a leading zero can be omitted? 1.7.01 is the same as 1.7.1 - at least when it comes to version numbers.
@venomchris5818
@venomchris5818 5 ай бұрын
@@NoFutureKid Thank you, I did not realize that.
@pixel_vengeur391
@pixel_vengeur391 5 ай бұрын
Oh you built a THE100 printer? I'm interested to see how that'll do :o
@wolfbiteaus
@wolfbiteaus 5 ай бұрын
would like the firmware. howto go about it?
@rcmaniac25
@rcmaniac25 5 ай бұрын
(sees all the stuff going around... then this) Excuse me while I get some popcorn
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 5 ай бұрын
Is the source code etc open anywhere to read?
@JonS
@JonS 5 ай бұрын
Can you PID tune now?
@user-tt6dy1oz3b
@user-tt6dy1oz3b 5 ай бұрын
Sad times that I've only just seen this announcement now the rollback has been disabled. History repeats itself and I guess some of us will never be able to install it, reminds me of the switch modding til their iterations blocked the hardware workaround so sad :( But glad the community is working on such projects :)
@blue_baby_whale
@blue_baby_whale 4 ай бұрын
That's so cool, can't wait for it. Anybody know how can I get the firmware?
@DanielChaves1984
@DanielChaves1984 5 ай бұрын
Bummer I saw plus and thought a larger build volume lol 😅
@TriptyX
@TriptyX 5 ай бұрын
Now this is going to be a trending video on the internet today :) Just out of curiosity, is it a full firmware or just mods on top of existing one?
@F_K3NT_D
@F_K3NT_D 5 ай бұрын
Full FW
@RobertD_83
@RobertD_83 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! I have been averse to getting a bambu printer because of the firmware situation. Hopefully the other machines are and to get something like this going and i can truly consider them. The printers are excellent especially for the price but I think this will probably sell many more machines to folks like me.
@hassosigbjoernson5738
@hassosigbjoernson5738 5 ай бұрын
There are alternatives regarding the hardware alone. The software should be the only selling point left (besides the AMS for now) to consider Bambu Lab. If you just want an enclosed printer: get the K1. If it can be open for PLA: there is Sovol SV07 or even the Ender 3v3 Klipper version and others out there ...
@MistrWeh
@MistrWeh 5 ай бұрын
​@@hassosigbjoernson5738 My experience, as I have both K1 and the X1C (and some other, older machines) - don't buy a K1. Apart from Crealitys support, at least my K1 will never print as good as the X1C, which is a working horse without hassle. 🤷
@RobertD_83
@RobertD_83 5 ай бұрын
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 according to many reviews the k1 has some print quality issues, or at least did at launch. Requiring print profile editing and other tinkering to get anywhere close to bambu quality. And as far as open printers I have a klipperized heavily modded ender 3. The draw to bambu lab is the price to performance aspect which from everything I've seen (which is quite a lot) is unmatched in any other machine. As well as the "it just works" ease of use factor. Furthermore no other printer, to my knowledge, offers a legit competitor to the AMS or AMS lite. Definitely not at the price of an x1c or a1/a1 mini. As I said the proprietary software/firmware and connection to Chinese servers is the biggest factor preventing myself, and from what I've seen many others, from considering these printers as their next daily. I'd honestly much prefer to build a voron or ratrig but when looking at the cost and amount of work, a bambu lab printer makes sense to come first and be used to print the required parts and to have a reliable backup when tinkering with a diy corexy machine. All just my 2 cents, maybe to you the printers you mentioned meet your needs and from your view the software is the determining factor, for me that isn't the case.
@TordenPSM
@TordenPSM 5 ай бұрын
Where can I get it? I’m all for this!
@peterwalker5413
@peterwalker5413 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting… hoping that this would happen. Bet it voids warranty forever. Is it going to be open source?
@PerMejdal
@PerMejdal 5 ай бұрын
I will be very interesting if Bambu will disable the ability to downloadgrade to 1.7.00.
@beagle8159
@beagle8159 5 ай бұрын
They are already doing this…
@PerMejdal
@PerMejdal 5 ай бұрын
@@beagle8159 Well then. Actions speaks louder that words.
@solacedagony1234
@solacedagony1234 5 ай бұрын
​@@beagle8159 Evidence?
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
Has this team analysed the bambu firmware to see if is based on marlin or klipper or any other code with a FOSS licence?
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 5 ай бұрын
Dude, very obviously its not or that would be big news. It was a dumb suspicion from the start. People who couldnt believe a chinese company actually innovated and to whom being closed was fuel to the flame.
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
@@BeefIngot do you know this for a fact?
@kilianlindlbauer8277
@kilianlindlbauer8277 5 ай бұрын
Im no software expert, but i can tell you that the printer is not running even a modified version of klipper. First it would require Linux, which is on the x1, but not p1 which runs a nearly identical firmware. Second even if you could install klipper on the x1 screen, get it to communicate over can/usb/uart with the mcu, flash that with klipper too and it would be entirely worthless. All the bambu printers dont have stepper drivers (yes, you heard right), the mcu directly controls the mosfets that would otherwise be controlled by some tmc chipset
@UnCoolDad
@UnCoolDad 5 ай бұрын
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 it doesn't have to run Klipper - but it could just use some of the code to be a violation. This isn't as extraordinary as you may think. Copy Pasta is the mainstay of much of the software engineering world.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 5 ай бұрын
@@UnCoolDadDude, we are literally on a video about the software being jail broken. We know for a fact because otherwise that group of people would have been screaming it from the rooftops. God the anti Bambulab conspiracy theorists are wild.
@ThatoneNB12
@ThatoneNB12 5 ай бұрын
Yep I’m finally buying a bambu printer
@SkateSoup
@SkateSoup 5 ай бұрын
"If you upgrade to 1.7.1 it breaks this" now i see the ball 🤣🤣
@wolfbiteaus
@wolfbiteaus 5 ай бұрын
BIG+ on usb-2-ethernet for me (the rest sounds good to :) Still running org firmware that came with the printer (will only update firmware if it fixes an issue I have or gives me a feature I need) still running like a dreammmmm :)
@MistrWeh
@MistrWeh 5 ай бұрын
The very last update and the noise cancelling mode was a dreaammmm (😊) for me - wife can't complain anymore about the loud printer, as dishwasher is louder than the Bambu now 😂
@wolfbiteaus
@wolfbiteaus 5 ай бұрын
@@MistrWeh the mrs is gone :) I now have Bambu X1c, Xtool P2 (& soon k1 max) setup in one of the rooms. Sounds like a factory when in there, but just close the door & access/monitor from main room(which is the computer/media/entertainment room) :) amazing how much money you have left when their not home spending it.
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 5 ай бұрын
Hmm yeah that’s nice but I will stick with the oem firmware. I have a Voron and bought the X1C to not have to tweak stuff.
@personwomanmancameratelevision
@personwomanmancameratelevision 5 ай бұрын
Same. The fact he hasnt shown a print is telling. We are also assuming you are running effectively beta firmware which will void your warranty if something goes wrong.
@mizz1414
@mizz1414 5 ай бұрын
Bambus lawyers are probably already getting their stuff together to immediately DMCA the whole project once it releases we do love closed-source software
@jamesharris9894
@jamesharris9894 5 ай бұрын
that's what i was wondering how long till they shut that down
@MemelordSupreme
@MemelordSupreme 5 ай бұрын
@@jamesharris9894 yeah and it seems like announcing it so prematurely on a platform they actively frequent is kind of setting ourselves up lol. It feels like this should be kept on the back channels before getting announcements like this
@ivyr336
@ivyr336 5 ай бұрын
Depends on how it's done though. If it's actually custom or if it's edited Bambu "OS". If it's the former they can't do shit.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 5 ай бұрын
You say that like this isnt what every single company would do. If Bambulab doesn't, people better throw respect on that, because they are 150% within their legal right to do so. You better pray and hope they simply open source, even if not with a permissive license.
@hassosigbjoernson5738
@hassosigbjoernson5738 5 ай бұрын
This could be very interesting! For sueing others they maybe have to public code from their firmware to proof their work. I wonder how much code from Klipper actually is on that OG Bambu Lab firmware ... we'll see! =)
@markuskoarmani1364
@markuskoarmani1364 5 ай бұрын
Please add feature to level the place where print is going to print only. It will save 2 minutes
@speadskater
@speadskater 5 ай бұрын
PID tuning please
@MrKornnugget
@MrKornnugget 5 ай бұрын
I am assuming the code is all open source software. This is the only way I would run a Bambu machine. I am not a big fan of black box software on the Bambu printers.
@nativeme2143
@nativeme2143 5 ай бұрын
That's cool feature. Though i think your warranty will void instantly. Also that's a little bit against that bambu vibe where you just buy it and it works. On the other hand it gives great chance to create custom API for bambus, which opens a lot of possibilities. (automating stuff etc...) Running connecting Ethernet to it is also nice feature.
@TheRealDoubleT
@TheRealDoubleT 5 ай бұрын
Does AMS work with the custom firmware?
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 5 ай бұрын
Yes it does!
@xargon1234
@xargon1234 5 ай бұрын
I am hopping they figure the ams out for use on klipper printers would make a nice setup having a drybox and selector all in one or 4 lol
@Validole
@Validole 5 ай бұрын
​@@xargon1234that could run afoul of copyright law, given that's proprietary code. The DMCA does have exemptions for "compatibility" I believe, but I'm unsure whether these cover making stuff just work on a competitors' machine.
@TheGroundedCoffee
@TheGroundedCoffee 5 ай бұрын
OMG now I need a P1S, I mean, if there could be custom firmware for it in the future....
@TriptyX
@TriptyX 5 ай бұрын
probably not
@woodwaker1
@woodwaker1 5 ай бұрын
Nero - this sounds crazy, but how do we downgrade the firmware? I had to borrow a phone to set my printers up a year ago, and have only used them via a PC and the bambu studio. I want to revert before it is no longer possilbe
@hd-be7di
@hd-be7di 5 ай бұрын
New BambuBob 1.0 firmware with extra goodies unlocked
@JA-fn7le
@JA-fn7le 5 ай бұрын
Where can you find info about this, there is nothing on the google.
@TriptyX
@TriptyX 5 ай бұрын
nowhere
@JA-fn7le
@JA-fn7le 5 ай бұрын
@@TriptyX I can understand why they are staying somewhat hidden.
@wzr3293
@wzr3293 5 ай бұрын
so... can it now run doom?
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