Band of Brothers - Episode 4 Reaction "Replacements"

[@stevensantiago8978]

Regarding “Market Garden” there is a 70’s movie, “A Bridge Too Far “ that you might enjoy

[@kerryferguson2400]

When my father died, I found a September 28, 1944, copy of the Detroit Free Press he saved for 50 years with the Front-Page Headline, “SKY TROOPS CUT TO PIECES: ONLY 1,800 OF 8,000 ESCAPE”. The entire issue is filled with articles about the actions and failures of Market Garden and Arnhem. It was incredible. I wish he would have talked to me about it when he was alive. Like so many others, he never thought of himself as doing anything amazing. War was just something that had to be done and it was his turn to do it. I am so glad Band of Brothers has this episode and the next to shed a little more light on what my father went through as a 20-year-old.

[@biancawichard4057]

the soldier asked to tap him when the green light gets on is because he was colourblind

[@jtcash2005]

Some references suggest Lt. Robert Brewer was colorblind. He and the medic survived their wounds. Shooting a medic is a war crime unless he is fighting. Brewer later joined the CIA and died in 1996.

[@przemekkozlowski7835]

The show does not mention it but Cobb was a veteran before he joined the Airborne. He served in North Africa so probably had more combat time then anyone else in Easy even though he missed the fighting in Normandy due to being injured by shrapnel on the plane before he jumped. The replacements were legally allowed to wear the unit citation since that is given to the entire unit, past and present. However, some of the veterans had other ideas of what was proper. Market Garden made that argument moot. Webster, the guy who gives the kid chocolate, was not a newbie. He served in another company in Normandy and then transferred to Easy for Market Garden.

[@ProtossWannabe1984]

On the Western European front both sides did honor the rule against shooting medics. Pacific theater and Eastern European front were a WAY different story though

[@YoonbeenPark]

1. On the lieutenant who wanted the shoulder tap: It's implied he has red/green colorblindness. So he's asking for confirmation on the color of the lights coming on later, not that he'll be sleeping through it. 2. On shooting medics during war: Technically a war crime, if done on purpose (and only if the medic was a non-combatant). Super difficult to prove you didn't target a medic intentionally. Depending on the war, how well this rule of war is followed varies. It's usually best respected by two industrialized nations' armies who both have medics to lose. Upheld least by insurgent armies like the Taliban or the Viet Cong (usually cuz they don't have medics). And there are exceptions, like the fanatical Japanese in the Pacific front of WWII.

[@krisfrederick5001]

Winters: "Never put yourself in a position to take from these men" Buck: "Alright...I'll throw left handed then..." 🎯

[@Bondrewd_The_Based]

I really sympathize with the whole "regimental award" thing. I enlisted at the tail end of our big involvement in the Middle East. When I graduated from basic training, I was given one of those "Global War on Terror" service badges. Everyone got one simply because we were serving during the time before the end of our major involvement in the conflict. I fucking hate that ribbon. If I'm in my dress uniform, I have to wear it. I feel like I don't deserve it. My dad also served and fought over there across 4 deployments. He earned that medal. Standing next to him with that stupid shit on my rack makes me feel like an imposter, it makes me feel like I'm downplaying his service by wearing it. I NEVER got deployed to the sandbox. I was never there. But I have the damn thing anyway.

[@rollomaughfling380]

But you were trained, ready and willing to go, and that counts for a lot. Maybe try not to be so hard on yourself. Back in my time my unit had plenty of H&S in the rear with the gear, and even back at home plate, providing important admin and supply-line maintenance. We'd give POGs a hard time, but what they did was important, and we'd do it in a friendly tongue-in-cheek way. They were the folks getting your people the gear you needed, maybe arranging for someone to fly back home for a week to see their kid being born, if that was possible, etc. "An Army marches on it's stomach." (We were Marines, but whatever). Similar thing. No need for guilt. Guilt can run from the tip of a bayonet all the way back to a person back stateside who failed to qualify for service if you let it. These H&S folk were awarded the same Combat Unit Citation as everyone who was up front clearing bunkers and buildings. No one really thought any less of them for doing their jobs, so long as they did them well. The person who orders the food, or cooks the food to strengthen the arm that carries the spear is every bit as important as the person at the tip of the spear. Take a look at Chesty Puller's career. One of the big reasons why he is so revered by Marines to this day is he effectively lobbied for better, newer gear, and improved supply lines for his "Raggedy Ass Marines." Every job in a Corps is important for it to function, be it distributing mail, pay, supplies, to physically clearing or destroying a fortified enemy building. Hope this all makes sense, and you can feel at least a bit better about your award, bro.

[@Waterford1992]

10:42 This tank is called a Jagdpanther

[@76JStucki]

The unit citation: yeah, the replacements didn’t fight in Normandy. But it’s a unit citation, meaning it’s part of the uniform code. The poor guys aren’t trying to take credit for something they didn’t do, they’re literally just following regulations by wearing it.

[@rawschri]

If I could add a British perspective, the British were often criticised by the US Generals for their cautious approach, rather than Patton's more aggressive tactics ... The Americans were very late to WW1, joining in 1917 .... Most British senior Commanders were junior Officers during WW1. On the morning of the 1st Battle of the Somme in 1916, Britain suffered 57,470 casualties, including 19,240 killed, these Officers were determined never to let their men's lives be sacrificed so freely again ... please remember this point .

[@gravitypronepart2201]

So they come up with a seriously stupid plan to land in Holland to end the war by Christmas, which gets 8,000 of their troops killed.

[@TheMedicalDemon]

9:00 Yes. Medics are, unless they shoot first, protected by military laws and cannot be legally fired upon by enemy combatants.

[@jeffreywettig5302]

Oddly enough, I think you are mistaking the guy who plays Cobb with Edward Norton in Fight club? Actually Eon Bailey who plays Webster, the soldier who gave the kid chocolate is in Fight Club for reals....

[@mark-be9mq]

Great episode

[@krisfrederick5001]

"Quit looking at me like that! Am I alright??" Is one of my favorite moments. Between Winters and Nix, the care is there. Not bad for Nix, with bullet holes in his helmet, having never fired his weapon in combat. ♠

[@dragonage2112]

Watch the Fallen of WWII it uses graphs and it really hits home how many actually died in that war civilians and soldiers you will freak out on how good it is put together trust me it is awesome.