Band of Brothers: Sobel Goes Off On Winters

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@Mr12348558 Ай бұрын

As a retired O-6, you NEVER dress down an officer in front of his men. “Praise in public, correct in private.” That finger point was petty and demeaning. LT Winters had every right to refuse that illegitimate command.

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

Bad leadership.

@MaverickRiggs5448 Ай бұрын

I read that Sobel was rude as an officer. He wrote soldiers and officers under him for perry reasons.

@terripipher1300 29 күн бұрын

Soble was a brasshole and a cluster

@moonlightserenade6292 29 күн бұрын

Yeah bad leadership especially in civilian world. Never correct men in public, but in private. This is humiliating

@Piemanthe3rd 2 ай бұрын

"This is Easy company, so I'm gonna make it hard as hell"

@WQuantrill Ай бұрын

He would have definitely got himself fragged in Vietnam lol

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

I'm sure of it LOL

@wesleycanada3675 Ай бұрын

I think it was heavily implied that he would have in ww2 as well because otherwise he would have gotten everyone killed

@disturbed157 Ай бұрын

You think they wouldn't kill him in WW2?

@WQuantrill Ай бұрын

@@disturbed157 Less common then

@FourEyedFrenchman Ай бұрын

I think Sobel knew Winters was winning some favor among the men, so he tells Winters to trump up some BS infractions and disciplinary recommendations in order to try and turn the men of Easy Company against Winters. Sobel had a rigidity that makes for a great trainer/instructor, but combat command demands a degree of flexibility he just didn't have, and his men knew it.

@garystefanski7227 Ай бұрын

The finger thing he did show what a petty tyrant he was.

@dubbeking Ай бұрын

Worst part, his only excuse for behaving this way were some extremely minor infractions after purposefully pushing them way too hard. Dude knew he was a sham, and needed to act all outraged to cover it up. Absolute chickenshit.

@Yourmomgoestocolledge Ай бұрын

Any boss ever put their finger in my face we'd have a problem

@EKUgrad1 Ай бұрын

Capt. Sobel's infractions should have been on that list.

@TheStopShort Ай бұрын

Best part was he wrote up six guys on chumped-up infractions like he said, amd assigned them all to latrine duty. Why? Because it was THEIR TURN 😂

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

LOL

@sujeto9402 10 ай бұрын

Some call him Red Ross, others call him “Mental”

@meltonfire 10 ай бұрын

LoL

@makeitthrough_ Ай бұрын

Winters shouldn't have eaten half his sandwich and thrown it in the trash. There was a dwindling supply of moistmakers in WWII and that was downright un-American

@BrianEBoyd 9 ай бұрын

But Sir we were on a break!!!😅😅

@EKUgrad1 Ай бұрын

"You salute the rank, not the man."- Major (?) Winters. That had to be sweet.

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

Oh absolutely

@SlyDawg951 9 ай бұрын

Maj. Winters said that Sobal was worse than, Band of Brothers showed in the series

@meltonfire 9 ай бұрын

I can't imagine. He was bad.

@aumarigan Ай бұрын

Can you expound further?

@SlyDawg951 Ай бұрын

@aumarigan there's videos here on KZbin of reporters that interviewed E Company members and men (who were alive) during the "Band of Brothers" filming.

@cookingwithjesus Ай бұрын

@@aumariganread the book

@micanopykracker694 9 ай бұрын

Sobel and his training standards was the reason many of them made it home alive....just couldnt read a compass or lead men worth a shit, had a sad death as well

@meltonfire 8 ай бұрын

I can see that. Sobel was hard and I can see that hardness making the men better, to some degree.

@executivedirector7467 8 ай бұрын

It's some combination of Sobel and other leaders such as Winters and NCOs. I suspect if Sobel hadn't lucked out with subordinate leaders who led the men through his shit the company would not have turned out how it did. But fair point; he WAS in command when Easy co was built.

@meltonfire 8 ай бұрын

@@executivedirector7467 We'll just say Sobel got them in physical shape. The other leaders did the rest... some what. LoL.

@micanopykracker694 8 ай бұрын

@@executivedirector7467 im just going by what so many including winters had said about sobel

@executivedirector7467 8 ай бұрын

@@micanopykracker694 At least one of the NCOs said Sobel "made" Easy company. Seems pretty obvious to me that he was such an SOB that he gave all the men something to cohere around. Then the good leaders such as Winters etc got them trained.

@ogrehaslayers605 10 ай бұрын

Not the way to train men. That's how you paint a target on your back during combat.

@meltonfire 10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@RandoFillipino1223 8 ай бұрын

It’s not his training that’s bad it’s his combat skills

@maximusjackassicus3042 18 күн бұрын

It's actually an excellent way to train them, but it's a horrible way to lead them. Sobel would have been a good drill sergeant for basic training but would have been a terrible terrible leader in the field.

@mailtrap22 Ай бұрын

Sobel was miserable inside, and in turn wanted everone else to feel the same.

@inhocsignovinces1081 Ай бұрын

There’s an infraction on Sobel’s kepi. Watch closely because the officer Airborne patch should be on the right side. Left for enlisted.

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

Ahhhh I missed that.

@wachiturritos1000 9 ай бұрын

Winter llegó a mayor...y el incompetente de Sobel se quedó en capitan

@otiebrown9999 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like THE MOVIE ANIMAL HOUSE.

@Undercookedpork 19 күн бұрын

It wasn’t that he was a dick and petty AF that turned the men, it was his lack of ability and confidence in leading them in combat or even war games that was his downfall. Had he been a brilliant tactical fighter and leader his extreme want for discipline wouldn’t have mattered and would have made sense.

@meltonfire 19 күн бұрын

Agreed 👍

@prometheus8010 8 ай бұрын

He's actually a really good drill instructor, getting them to work together and become brothers, however a terrible leader.

@luispena2842 Ай бұрын

Became brothers thru the same hatred they had towards him

@Scarletbull Ай бұрын

What was the purpose of walking away from the easy co. when they can hear Ross elevate his tone?! 🤦‍♂️ Might as well said what he said where the lieutenant was. Oh the theatrics. 🤦‍♂️

@daveburrows4943 Ай бұрын

Great instructor actually but….when bullets fly some embrace the adrenaline some flee it and some freeze. He froze. Sobel still deserves his due….he did make three jumps

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

I'll give Sobel his props on that. I'm not jumping out any planes anytime soon so he's a better man than me on that front. 8-))

@carlmontney7916 Ай бұрын

Sobel could definitely talk the talk but unfortunately he couldn't walk the walk

@meltonfire Ай бұрын

No he could not.

@maximusjackassicus3042 18 күн бұрын

I hate people like sobel so much. He's a boss not a leader, in a position of authority by virtue of his rank not his ability. Content to simply bark orders then complain when they don't meet his arbitrary standards. I don't know much about the real sobel, so I can't say how accurate this portrayal is.

@meltonfire 16 күн бұрын

I remember reading in one of the comments that Sobel ended up committing suicide. Not sure if that is accurate or not. I do know I would hate to be Sobel and see how Band of Brothers portrayed me. Even if it was accurate.