Yamaha 1200 Super Tenere First Impressions ride

[@andrewamandarobertson1423]

With regards to the bhp an ecu reflash takes away the power restricted first three gears and gives you an extra 20 horses. I love mine, the centre of gravity is really low and it feels really flickable. I went for this over the FJR 1300 which felt cramped as like yourself I'm a big fella. Love the review, about the best I've seen.

[@Banditmanuk]

Thanks your your kind words and the sub (very much appreciated on my small channel) Very interesting what you say about the ECU flash, sounds like what is needed. 👍👍👍

[@fakeappellation7343]

I'm a big fella (6'2'', 240 lbs) and I changed my super tenere for an FJR1300. The super tenere is uncivilized, the engine makes excessive noise, you have to climb on and off each time, and the engine isn't that great really. I haven't even test driven the FJR. I'm getting it on tuesday.

[@Banditmanuk]

@@fakeappellation7343 The Missenden Flyer recently put out a good review of the FJR1300, it will certainly have loads more power. The only thing he did say was his legs were tucked in a reasonably tight position on the FJR.

[@andrewamandarobertson1423]

Fake appellation the FJR is amazing, I still crave it as the engine is just sublime, maybe one day. The S10 suits my needs and I can ride 400 miles in a day and feel great at the end. I'm sure you will love the FJR. Safe riding.

[@mikehamilton9128]

@@fakeappellation7343 I certainly would disagree that the Super Tenere has an "uncivilised" engine. My 2017 bike is very smooth indeed with none of the high frequency buzz that you can get from a straight 4. I have ridden the FJR on several occasions and yes, I liked it very much indeed. I just find my Super Tenere is comfortable for my 6'2" frame and is easy to ride on whatever tarmac roads that I choose to ride. Still, you pays your money and takes your choice, enjoy your FJR

[@dleebox2268]

I hear talks of this bike being underated, this thing is as solid as a tank, wonderful piece of work from Yamaha, this thing will last for ever.

[@marcelobaraldijackarejack4831]

I bought my ST 15 days ago, I live in São Paulo Brazil, my country is very big and I need a comfortable machine that can handle the trip, excellent motorcycle, has more technology than I really need, good consumption and beautiful appearance, I'm very happy with my Negrona, she's black, the people who criticize must be jealous, let's enjoy good night everyone

[@nottjohn9418]

Before I got mine, I didn't think I was the type of person to ride adventure bikes but I live in a very rural area and the roads are very rough for miles around and I needed an upgrade from my enduro bike and wanted something that could handle a lot of miles. I had a chance to ride one and wasn't sure but another one came up for sale a few hours away from me and a friend took me to see it and after a short test ride I bought it and rode it home. That was nearly a month ago and I've just put 500 miles on it in the last two days. It's one of the best bikes I've owned.

[@stephenhadley2490]

I’ve got one of these along with the MT10. I had a BMW and thought I’d go with Yamaha reliability after a few issues with the Beemer. Awesome touring bike. Smoother engine than the flat twin. It’s getting on in years styling wise but it reminds me of a 79 series Landcruiser which is function over form. If I lived in Europe I’d probably have a GS but since I live in Australia I went for the absolute reliability of Yamaha. Fuel economy of these bikes is amazing. Electric suspension is great when you’ve got it and the roads turn bad.

[@Banditmanuk]

It's a great combination of Yamaha reliability MT10 and Super Ten. I suspect you appreciate the fuel economy after riding the MT10! I've owned plenty of brands of bike but for me Yamaha reliability stands out and I certainly get it in more remote parts of the world. Thanks for stopping by my channel

[@mikehamilton9128]

I agree with you 100% and the Super Tenere is much higher quality than BMW GS too.

[@travelinben1966]

My first bike was a 400 Yamaha about 400 years ago.I could not kill that bike,and sold it two years later for more than I paid for it.Going to buy a 2021 S10 as soon as I can get my mitts on one.

[@Banditmanuk]

I'm a massive Yamaha fan, started in 79 with an FS1E, then RD250LC and now currently a XSR900 and MT10.

[@mikehamilton9128]

Probably the most underrated motorcycle in the adventure bike genre but, as any owner knows, probably the best in the class. The motorcycle press who didn't give it the best reception when it was launched, now rave about it and say how exclusive it is. Funny how things turn out isn't it?

[@Banditmanuk]

Completely agree, if I was planning a proper adventure trip where I wanted a tough dependable bike, this is definitely it

[@williamrae9954]

Can pick up a pre-Reg for around £10k...there's 2nd hand ones asking more...bargain if you're looking to keep a bike for a decade,seen one with 300.000km

[@armyfazer1410]

I just bought that exact bike. Traded a Tracer GT for it. Loving it so far!

[@Banditmanuk]

I do think it's a great bike, a little underrated. Congratulations on the new bike

[@stevenkerry3101]

if i close my eyes it sounds like i'am on mine great bike under rated

[@Banditmanuk]

Absolutely, very much enjoyed riding the bike and thanks for calling by my little channel

[@PharaohDeathMask]

A good review that covers all aspects of this bike. He (Banditmanuk) does actually ride the bike, but you've got to go to the 15:00 minute mark for it to happen.

[@Banditmanuk]

Thank you for the helpful viewers guide time stamp

[@alt0v14]

Exact colour I ordered from dealer and hope to get in the end of march, nice to see it in action.

[@Banditmanuk]

Nice one, I would still pick this bike ahead of the rest of the overpriced over powered adventure bikes 👍🏻👍🏻

[@alt0v14]

@@Banditmanuk yep, sometimes I think how powerful should be an adventure bike? If somebody makes 300hp bike will people buy it? :))

[@djwarren5081]

A great video as usual . A friend of mine has a 1200 Super Tenere and puts big miles on. Absolutely loves it. I considered one, bought a Tiger Explorer 1200, and sold it!

[@Banditmanuk]

Thanks for your kind words, I liked the bike but I'm still in love with my MT10 so wouldn't buy one. Interesting you sold the Tiger Explorer, I enjoyed riding that but hated the low speed manoeuvring. What did you buy instead?

[@djwarren5081]

@@Banditmanuk it was too top heavy for my liking. Swapped for a Street Triple R 765. Great bike but too small for me. MT10 feels made to measure.

[@Banditmanuk]

@@djwarren5081 The Street is an amazing bike, I get to ride my wife's 675 occasionally but my MT10 fits me as a 'bigger person' great bikes if a little thirsty. 👍👍👍

[@nottjohn9418]

You buy the Yamaha for reliability and because it isn't a BMW.

[@Banditmanuk]

That's why I own 2 Yams 👍

[@nottjohn9418]

This is my first S10 but I've owned more Yams than anything else. Great bikes.

[@jjdeville7884]

I’ve got one.. I call it the rhino.. solid as a rock Get it flashed and it’s putting out 130 horses

[@Banditmanuk]

I would still have one over a GS 👍

[@milesdavis8665]

its all down to marketing. BMW has a great marketing team to get the GS sold. Of course they won't mention how much more it costs to keep the bike on the road, or the things that break often. the super 10 is just a bike that keeps on ticking just like most of the yamaha models. can't beat that

[@milesdavis8665]

I noticed over the years that yamaha never really marketed the super 10 like bmw markets its bikes. If they did then the price would be up there as well. Let's be glad there's other bikes out there that fit the average man's wallet. The vstrom is another underrated bike. I'm currently looking at which one of the 2 I should buy. Decisions decisions 🤔

[@milesdavis8665]

If I was to buy anything other than one of these 2 bikes it would have to be that new triumph tiger 1200. Triumphs are underrated as well

[@azb2010]

When needed to cover miles, 280 miles at a stretch is no problem. My wife, who typically likes to stop at 80 miles, finds the pillion accommodations fine for almost 200 miles. Having owned ktm, BMW, and currently a Ducati, the S10 is my choice for cross country or longer trips. Significantly more reliability and much longer service intervals are more important to me than keyless ignition, color screens, and electric windshields.

[@Banditmanuk]

Great to hear from long term owners. Thanks for stopping by.

[@henryrussell7406]

Really fancy one of these, love my '08 FZ1 but it's got very poor tank range and at 6'2" I find it a bit cramped. Had loads of Yamahas and agree with the reliability, never had a single breakdow in 10 years of riding various Yams 👍

[@Banditmanuk]

You are around the same height as me. I do think you would find this bike very comfortable. Real world low down grunt is there from the engine but only you could decide if you would miss the performance of the FZ1. Over a year later I'm still on my MT10 with its awful tank range but fantastic performance. Thanks for watching the vid

[@nottjohn9418]

I had an FZ1 and it was great but the S10 is so much better.

[@amberjackrtw7322]

Thanks for a good honest review. I own a S10... it's a solid and utterly reliable bike. I went for a ZE model (electr susp). I use it a lot even during my solo trips. I like to change the settings on the go according to road conditions or my mood ;) Perfect for touring 2up and actually for anything else. BTW good channel. Subscribed Check out my s10 related videos... just one for now but much more to come ;)

[@williamrae9954]

Same range as a Tracer900...i do 200mile between fill ups,S10 does 230 to empty...weight,petrol is roughly 750g/litre x 23...and you can shave another 20kg quite easily,so dry,you're not too far away from the 200kg...most underrated tourer on the road,sadly no more in 2021,Euro5 has finished it,but that means bargains,2/3rds of a BMW/KTM/Ducati...and i know which i'd have,it's Japanese! Oh,i hate those Tracer clocks too,i preferred the original ones with the needle rev counter!

[@Banditmanuk]

You just know it's going to be reliable. Thanks for watching

[@williamrae9954]

@@Banditmanuk Think you need a new name?(renovating a 650cc oil cooled Bandit right now,myself).

[@Banditmanuk]

@@williamrae9954 Little did I know 12 years ago (when I owned a 1200 Bandit) that KZbin would become a thing! I just used it to upload a few clips. Probably should change it but only do it for fun.

[@armyfazer1410]

I may have missed it. Did you have the bike in Sport or Tour mode? After my first test ride, I wasn't impressed at all. Then, I switched it into Sport mode. It makes quite the difference.

[@Banditmanuk]

Its been so long since I recorded this I honestly don't remember.

[@armyfazer1410]

@@Banditmanuk I thought of this after I wrote it. LOL. Later, you mentioned that you were keeping it in Touring. Cheers

[@Banditmanuk]

@@armyfazer1410 All the vids become a bit of a blurr after a while 🤷‍♂️ Cheers and take care

[@jean-paulmallard9505]

Thanks for a good,solid review,really enjoyed it.

[@Banditmanuk]

Thank you for calling by and commenting. Best regards

[@chaychanna]

"T" mode stands for 'tour' and "S" is 'sport'. In tour mode the output is dumbed down. Next time take it out of T (granny mode) and ride the bloody thing like a man and feel the 'grunt' that you're whingeing about it not having.

[@Banditmanuk]

Thanks for your insight, my channel I ride how I want thanks. Grunt, I'm afraid its outgunned by the the GS on power, torque, and lower weight FACT. I guess some folks just cannot take a little criticism of a bike they own. I did say I liked it and would probably still have one over a GS. Anyway thanks for calling by the channel, always good to get feedback.

[@chaychanna]

Banditmanuk sure it’s your channel and you can ride any way you like. And yes the GS is much more powerful. That’s not the point and it never was about comparing the ST to the GS. It’s just a bit daft to state that the bike doesn’t have much grunt when you’re riding it in a throttled back mode, which is what “T” mode is. It’s not supposed to have grunt in T mode - that’s the whole point of T mode. I can handle criticism of the bike and can even add some of my own. It’s unfounded criticism, or criticism based on ignorance, which irks.

[@Banditmanuk]

@@chaychanna Had the bike a few hours, don't profess to know everything about it. My understanding is both modes offer the same power but at different throttle positions. If I'm wrong I will bow to your greater knowledge. Cheers and thanks for dropping by.

[@paullee6663]

Great honest review! I don't know what Yamaha are thinking sometimes....talk about shooting yourselves in the foot! To only offer this bike in white or black is ridiculous IMO. The black is the one to go for by the way. Also, I'm not sure if it's my internet speed or my (lack of) internet skills, but, I've tried to 'configure' a couple of bikes on there site and can never get to a final price.... I have no trouble with BMW or Triumph??.....If I was taller I'd get me a Tenere 700 on the reviews alone. I like Yamaha....I've had a couple.... but the switch gear, and the 'clocks' are way behind the competition, and look the something out of the '70's and '80's.... and while they are cheaper (better value??) when you start adding the necessary 'extra's...not as much as you first think.

[@Banditmanuk]

Thanks for calling by Paul. Even if I really, really liked this bike I couldn't buy it with that paint scheme, hated it. The dash/screen is way behind the competition, you can see why BMW sell so many GS's even at the price they are. As I mentioned in the vid I think the Tenere 700 could be a better proposition, would be interested to have a go, think it will be well priced. Appreciate you calling by the channel 👍👍

[@nottjohn9418]

I had a XT660X back in 2006 but I think the 700 would be better just because it's a twin. The 660 was great fun and it could be ridden flat-out almost anywhere but to go any distance on it was hard work and that's the reason I sold it. Such a shame because it was such a fun bike.

[@paullee6663]

@@nottjohn9418 Well if you don't mind me saying Nott John you're a little late, this video is a year old. I'm not sure of the differences between your XT660X and the XT660R (from what I can gather the XT660X was a supermoto version of the XT660R???) I do know that, for a lot of people the XT660R was the bike of choice back in the day for lots of people that wanted a bike they could rely on to take them on a round the world trip. The engine has a reputation for being 'bullet proof'.

[@nottjohn9418]

@@paullee6663 the main real difference were the size of the wheels.

[@paullee6663]

@@nottjohn9418 A XT660 that was capable and able to go 'any distance'...... themotorcyclehub.com/traveling-100000-kilometers-around-the-world-on-a-motorcycle/tance' www.madornomad.com/how-we-prepared-our-motorcycle-for-a-world-trip/ www.rideapart.com/articles/246796/teen-rider-circles-the-globe/

[@MrJulianbowden]

Hi, I saw this at Yamaha dealers last week, I was having a service on my tracer, I'm booking in for a test ride on the tracer 900GT next week. As a 6'2 guy I like the high seat settings on the tracer900, I did sit on the MT10 and thought the seat is just to small, same with the MT09, both lower than the tracer700 @835mm. Dont you find that bike more comfortable than the MT10?

[@Banditmanuk]

Hi Julian, think I preferred the Tracer GT over the Super Tenere. I did take one of the first GTs in the country out a while back. There is much hate in the comments section for the music to cover the wind noise (no in helmet microphone on that ride) kzbin.info/www/bejne/epOagnaPesecqcU I did find myself sliding forward on the Tracer I tried but overall it's a fabulous bike, loads more practical than my MT10 if I'm honest, probably quicker and more agile than my former Versys 1000. The Tracer GT is the bike I probably should own given the amount of miles and touring I do, trouble is I'm addicted to the insane power of the MT10 and unlike most folks I do love the comfort of that seat....... sometimes you just gel with a bike, its ergos and even its flaws like its massive thirst.

[@marksimpson5218]

Some dealers are selling these for 10495 brand new in 2020 that is a bargain. You can’t really compare it to a GS at that price. Did you get any buffeting with the screen? My tracer 900gt is terrible, with wind buffet, now interested in super ten.

[@Banditmanuk]

Quite correct, at 10495 that is a bargain. I have previously ridden the Tracer GT and got buffering same to a certain extent with the Super Ten. I'm so tall at 6ft 3 I find it very difficult to find any bike with a screen that doesn't buffer me, hence why I ride a naked MT10. The only screen that ever worked well for me on a Versys was a Givi Airflow aftermarket screen, worked fantastic but looked weird I would buy the Super ten over a GS if I was looking to do proper distance touring. I would certainly trust Yam reliability (hope your Tracer has been reliable)

[@marksimpson5218]

Banditmanuk Thanks, it has been reliable but I’ve turned it into a naked bike (removed screen hand guards & mirrors) so no more buffeting now. I normally do one big tour a year, so may put the bits back on for that, if we ever get out the UK.

[@Peakwanderer]

I like the spec, just a shame it isn't good looking, well for me at least. My new bike has one of those key things, I picked it up yesterday and it cost the grand sum of £850 ! a five fold increase in power for me also.

[@Banditmanuk]

No, it's looking its age now. Take it the new bike is bigger than the last thing I saw you ride? Come on........ what you bought?

[@Peakwanderer]

@@Banditmanuk Just a kawasaki ER5, it feels enormous after riding little bikes for so long, although I've only ridden it around a car park so far.

[@Banditmanuk]

@@Peakwanderer Nice little err not that little bikes. Good luck with it cheers

[@Peakwanderer]

@@Banditmanuk thank you

[@philipjames250]

Nice review, thanks. You've just cost me £12k!

[@Banditmanuk]

Haha, don't think you will have any regrets. 👍👍👍👍

[@nikosarvanitis9598]

Awesome bike!

[@Banditmanuk]

Yes a great underrated bike 👍 Thanks for stopping by the channel

[@nikosarvanitis9598]

@@Banditmanuk I saw also the other channel of Longhaulpaul's tenere and he says he's done 300,000 miles with no problems at all so i believe this is Yamaha's most reliable bike although it is on the market since 2011,that's all really great bike to overland!!

[@jjdeville7884]

Yea the bmw club.. Let’s all buy a peaked helmet, an adventure suit and pretend we are Charlie and Ewan down at. Starbucks 🤣👍

[@fernandoportilla7908]

Alguien que tenga esta hermosura de moto sabe si esta super tenere 2019 trae algunas mejoras a modelos anteriores del 2015 al 2018,se les agradece cualquier información, saludos

[@jblue1299]

Where can I go to get the specifications for this bike?

[@ernie12man]

On Yamaha's website? ;)

[@adriantompson]

dont under stand why people buy these bike bikes gs and the rest to heavy . the lighter 800 is a much better bike. hope my 700 tenere is going to be a good bike when i get it. dont need power on these bikes but they do weigh a ton. got to have 21inch front wheel. bridge stone tyres crap.

[@Banditmanuk]

Wow, you have some bikes! Really look forward to what you think about the Tenere 700, think it could be a great bike...... probably better that this 1200. Its certainly too heavy for any serious off road. Cheers.

[@adriantompson]

@@Banditmanuk sold tiger and the vfr going to stick with yam only got wr and mt10.

[@derrickmurphy9988]

Did you get the 700 yet?nice machine and I hear they have great power for a 700.The only problem I have with the smaller bike is how it performs on a 500 mile day trip on the motorway or bigger road in order to get to a destination.

[@billgilkerson5294]

sold my 800 because it's like a buzzy bee, not relaxed at all on the freeway. Great bike otherwise. 1050 was perfect but Triumph chose not to bring the 1050 sport to the USA.

[@nottjohn9418]

I have Karoo Streets on mine and really rate them.

[@ΥΗΣΑΣΩΜΑΤΩΝ]

manual pdf for XT 1200 Z Super Tenere ....?

[@Banditmanuk]

??

[@ΥΗΣΑΣΩΜΑΤΩΝ]

@@Banditmanuk I'm looking for a manual

[@Banditmanuk]

@@ΥΗΣΑΣΩΜΑΤΩΝ arr understand hopefully an owner will post a link up for you. Cannot help myself sorry. Best regards

[@nottjohn9418]

I have a manual for a Gen1. I will make a link to it from my Google Drive. drive.google.com/file/d/1ChW7Ko6BPOm7TuBgJqhey8qoIYOeK8aq/view?usp=drivesdk

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

A 1200 with the power of a 600. And it's heavy and ugly. I think people give this bike too much credit because it's durable and comfortable.

[@Banditmanuk]

Probably why it's not sold like the BMW R1200GS. Time for Yamaha to update this bike I think.

[@garrydixon6123]

I own one and yes peak power is the same as some 600 bikes, but the torque is vastly different. I've owned an R1200gs lc adventure and a ktm 1290 adventure r and went back to the xt1200z because it is more reliable and more durable. Horses for courses I guess.

[@chaychanna]

Have you ever ridden one? I had a GS - sold it and went for the Super 10. Much better bike imo. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and far more reliable. Just got back from a 1600km off road trip with 4 KTM 1290's an Africa Twin and a GSA. The Honda bailed because the rider chickened out, I helped load the GSA onto a pickup because it stoped going, and helped load one KTM onto a pickup because it's suspension packed in.

[@billgilkerson5294]

Spoken like a true squidster