Nightwish & Tarja “Phantom of the Opera” Vocal Coach REACTS

[@kersa6574]

Thank you for the reaction, it was great! Nightwish with Tarja was truly one of a kind.

[@larryzigler6812]

She still is !!!!!!!!!!!

[@merjahassinen6920]

best possible singers together😊

[@tuuli4002]

Thank you!! Yes, Tarja is amazing. The whole band is amazing❤ Kiitos (what Tarja said at the end) means thank you.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Thank you too!

[@adrianomoreno19]

Tarja Turunen ❤❤❤❤

[@TomasOfTorquemada]

Tarja, Tuomas and Emppu started the band. It's funny how the latter two wanted a folk band but Tarja's progress as a singer made it impossible. So Nightwish it was to be. And the rest is history.

[@gabriel_bardac]

Hello William [ Bangkok Voice Coach ] ! Nightwish fan here, your musical quest summoned me. Welcome to the world of symphonic metal! And thank you for checking this legendary band! This live recording is from Helsinki, Finland in 2005, then together with Tarja Turunen [pronounced Tarr-ya], the 1st female singer of the band, and Marco Hietala, bassist and singer. About the instrumental and vocal added parts - it's good to know they recorded their orchestral and vocal back tracks with prestigious institutions as London Philharmonic Orchestra. London's The Metro Voices choir group and London's Young Musicians Children's Choir as their regular partners. Since this is your first Nightwish reaction, it is my duty to give you the [updated] short history of the band concentrated by Ann Waychoff, one of the biggest Nightwish fan who has since passed away (and I am doing this in her memory): " Nightwish was started in 1996.They are considered a Symphonic Metal band, with a female main singer. They are from Finland. Tuomas Holopainen [pronounced Tuo-mas], the keyboard player, composes and writes the lyrics for 95% of their music. [Sami Vanska was the bassist of the band starting with their 2nd studio album, he was with them until 2001. Then Marco Hietala was bassist and vocals, since 2001 to 2020. He recently announced his retirement both from the band and the public life for the next year at least. Then in May 2021 Jukka Koskinen [pronounced Yukka] became the bassist of the band, for the Human :II: Nature tour - and recently, the band announced he became a permanent member] And there is the guitarist Emppu Vuorinen [he also recorded the bass lines for their 1st studio album]. Then there is Troy Donockley from UK who is a multi-instrumentalist and vocals. Jukka Nevalainen [pronounced Yukka] is the drummer. In 2015 due to Jukka's health issues Kai Hahto became the drummer and as of now is a permanent addition. Nightwish has had three singers. 1st one was Tarja Turunen [pronounced Tarr-ya] (Operatic vocals) - you just heard her. She was with them until 2005. The 2nd one was Anette Olzon from Sweden (Poppy, strong vocals). She was with them until 2012.The 3rd and current singer is Floor Jansen [pronounced Yansen] from Netherlands (power, operatic, soprano.....most versatile). There are live concerts that you should use depending on what era. From Wishes to Eternity and End of an Era (Tarja), Montreux Festival live 2012 and Exit Festival (Anette), Live at Wacken 2013, Live at Wembley, Live at Tampere, Vehicle of Spirit, Decades live (Floor). I hope this helps. I want to welcome you to the Nightwish community. I hope you like them enough to continue the journey. Believe me Nightwish will surprise you with their songs. You will never know what to expect. They are unbelievable live. I want to warn you that Nightwish fans are hard core. So be prepared. lol " For an extended set of suggestion (with links), I posted 2 huge comments in the community tab in my main YT channel: www.youtube.com/@gabriel.bardac/community 🤘

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Aha!! “Fan” being short for “fanatic”!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@bridgetmccracken1381]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Oh my dear, you have no idea how correct that statement is . Sadly you will find this band is full of them

[@gabriel.bardac]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Yes, you read me right :) I am a fanatic of the idea that our life would be richer if we knew more about music and art in general, than about weapons and conflicts, for example. I especially appreciated your approach from the perspective of classical music, applied to a cross-genre interpretation. I hope you will continue to explore this new territory.

[@KristiinaBerg]

@@gabriel.bardac Ever the gentleman.

[@Boa_Omega]

He is the one to drop long knowledge bombs. I don't say Gabriel is correct or incorrect but lots of info.

[@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988]

Tarja Turunen 🥀🧜🏻‍♀️👑🤘🏻

[@kersa6574]

The beauty, the siren, the metal queen ♡ Tarja

[@FlaviaSantosCMK]

OMG TARJA TURUNEN!!! 😍🤘🔥♥️♥️♥️

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

❤️

[@nanettetredoux7613]

Thank you! Tarja is great!

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

She is!

[@thaisregina3739]

The way Tarja can deliver any song with perfection🩷🩷🩷

[@pamelamawby2850]

Thank you for doing this ..... absolutely loved nightwish when Tarja was the lead .... she is and will always be the very best singer they had

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Personally speaking, I love her!! ❤️🎶

[@pamelamawby2850]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Me too .... her solo albums are amazing too and her collaboration with Sharon den Adel and Within Temptation was Awesome...... the song was called Paradise ( What about us).... hope you get to listen.

[@AndyMagnusson70]

Think I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will disagree. Hahahahaha

[@ferdinandpaternoster332]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach until you meet Floor Jansen from Nightwish 😉🤟🤟🤟

[@pamelamawby2850]

@@AndyMagnusson70 Each to their own 🤣

[@alejandracaceres3168]

Kiitos! Thank you!Gracias 😊

[@larryzigler6812]

THANKS for some TARJAWISH !!!!!! Goddess then , even more so now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ☮☮💘💘☮☮💘💘

[@iloinenleski2593]

It wuos thank you. Thank you and greetings from Finland. ❤

[@helio.g8384]

The band Night Wish will never be the same without Tarja, one of the greatest rock sopranos in the world. Eternal gratitude to our beloved Tarja Turunem. As you don't know her, she represents A LOT. How come you don't know Night Wish?

[@andrelglinnenbank2856]

(Symphonic) metal and classical music/musical theatre are more related than most people tend to think. Both require extreme musicianship. During the 10th anniversary concert of Epica, another symphonic metal band, often even heavier than Nightwish, Floor and Simone, the lead singer of Epica, did a Stabat Mater with the orchestra and choir that were on stage with them for the occasion. The metal audience loved it. (And so do I).

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

It’s a powerful combination. Great to see young metal fans in the audience mouthing the words to Phantom. It reminds of when high octane opera arias are combined with football.

[@tamashii6670]

You should react to something from Tarja's solo career, there she using also her low and dark chest voice and she singing both metal and classical music, she can make classical music fans and metal music fans to be on the same concert, classical or metal, it's amazing. :)

[@tuijakarttunen9164]

Thank you so much for the reaction. I love her voice, her stage presence and the way she carries herself. Please do check her classical career with Mein Herr Marquis from her Beauty & The Beat tour or Ave Maria by Paolo Tosti. Tarja said in an interview, that she had to adjust her classical singing a lot to make it work with the metal music and singing in front of a metal band. Classical music was her first love and that powerful lyrical soprano voice the very reason Tuomas decided to turn Nightwish into a symphonic metal band instead of a more acoustic band.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Thank you. I find it fascinating. She is the real deal. I’m a big fan now.

[@DemonTom]

It's channels like yours that give credibility to what we do. You provided so much insight into to the singing technique, the band, and the history behind The Phantom of the Opera. It is people like you who give the Reaction Genre of video credibility, and for that, I humbly thank you. There are many who just sit on their hands, but you really nailed it!

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

That’s an amazing comment!! Thank you SO much. You make me want to keep going! ❤️

[@uweburger]

Now you also have to do the version with Floor Jansen and Henk Port

[@paanikki]

Marco Hietala is not just a great metal singer. He is also a very versatile singer of many other genres. After he left the Nightwish, he won the "Masked Singer Finland" in 2020.

[@Mr.Greeeeeen]

Tarja4Evr, for sure, 👊❤️👊

[@melicriszoe1]

🎉I really loved your analysis!! Tarja says that she doesn't sing opera but people think that she is not versatile but she can use many techniques. I would love for you to analyze mein herr marquis and some of her solo career as a victim of ritual (Woodstock). a cover of her (the unforgiven metallica's) came out recently and it's beautiful. It's from an intimate show in a church. from Nightwish with her I recommend slaying the dreamer (end of an era show). thanks for your reaction! greetings from Argentina!

[@TerroristiRiku]

Kiitos!

[@MikkoMurmeli]

Tarja and Marko were a real powerhouse on this one, and I'd say on other songs too. My very favourite song of all times.

[@brucecronin6396]

Great reaction !! and comments. You must have a great ear... Love it !!

[@esapuhakka5494]

15 years in thailand, and from finland.

[@JariJuslin]

I love how expressive you are! You obviously have a lot of stage performance background. Your style here sets you apart from the bulk of reactors.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Thank you so much!! That's made my day!!!

[@dazjackson1972]

Being a metal fan, this is my favourite treatment of this song. Tarja was dismissed from the band immediately following this concert.🇬🇧🤘🤘 Edit: I posted this comment before hearing your closing remarks - there's a lesson to be learned I'm sure.😊

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

I know !!!! Shocking. Literally immediately after this performance.

[@dazjackson1972]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach I wasn't a fan back then, so I missed all the drama Very sad for the original fans, but they managed to continue making good music and are still filling arenas to this day.

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

@@dazjackson1972 As far as I'm concerned, it's similar to Metallica's development after the Black Album - they lost hundreds of thousands of fans (me being one of those), but gained millions. Same with Nightwish - when Tarja was fired, they lost a lot of fans (I _liked_ them, but wasn't really a fan), but (leaving out the time with Anette) they gained _so_ many more when Floor joined (me being one again - NW are the first band in over 35 years of loving music whom I actually consider myself a fan of)

[@Boa_Omega]

Not quite. Hours after. Ah well, all things end badly or they would not end. Who in the middle of successful albums and ongoing tour who is neither suffering mental health or physical health troubles walks away.

[@athlonen]

You were asking about why they performed this song in F minor instead of the original key of G minor. Here is what has happened. They still are playing in the key of G minor. However, what Nightwish is doing here (and other bands do this as well) is that they have tuned their instruments down one whole step, so while the actual sheet music is still in G minor, to the ear it sounds like it is in a lower key (in this case, an entire step down), which would put it in F minor (to the ear). This helps primarily for the singers to not have to strain their vocal chords so much to sing at a higher key and stay in pitch to that key, plus makes it easier to perform without damaging their chords at all.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Right. It’s definitely a bit more of a strain in G.

[@johnojvind7641]

In what key do Amira Willighagen sing ? She can sing for hours without healt issues. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@markclements7767]

Hi William, greetings from UK That was a great reaction, thank you 😊

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Aurinkohirvi]

Yes it was! 👍👍

[@RottenRota]

YASSSSS!!!!!

[@MegaGermanen]

Nightwish is Tarja and Tarja is Nightwish. Anette ja Floor are good singers, but they just don't have IT.

[@seyynan]

Then listen to Tarja

[@Rye_Toast]

I love the energy and emotion you put into your reaction, I hope we see more Nightwish from you. I hope you don't fall into the "mY sInGeR iS tHe bEsT" trap, all three NW singers brought a flavor to the table and improved them. It only goes to show that singers are not interchangeable. I think what I enjoy the most is hearing how the songs evolved from singer to singer, they each put their spin on it and even how the band played the music has evolved. Floor is a powerhouse, Tarja is a genius, and I'm still getting to know Annette's impact but I have to say some of her era songs are my favorite.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

I will definitely have to investigate further!!! Thanks for your advise. I was a singer in a group who was replaced - and it can be a rather odd feeling. (Irreplaceable!! Not!!) But I secretly know…!!!

[@ulfvesterlund2160]

Andrew Loyd Webber said in an interview that this version of his song was his favourite

[@paulchapman2569]

Nightwish Army south Brittany France reporting. Welcome to the world of symphonic metal. This is Tarya's last performance with Nightwish, she was fired at the end. She became a Diva. From the same gig,it's worth listening to Sleeping Sun. Then you can miss out the next singer and move to the Goddess, Floor Jansen who was sent from Valhalla to collect the souls of fallen warriors to sit with Odin.

[@jesuismila9673]

I will never calm down, but every time it feels like I'm hanging out with the trendy Professor Xavier 😹 I love it!!!! 🤍💅

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Love it!!

[@ENGELASTAROTH]

Tarja turunen, the symphonic metal goddess

[@kathyjones3940]

Tarja Turunen is and was Nightwish and love that they're from my home country of Finland!!! ❤❤❤

[@birdbranch]

Lovely reaction. I think you should check out Nightwish with Floor and Henk Poorts version of The phantom of the opera live at the ziggydome

[@michaelm.1947]

Any day with another NW reaction is a good day. Thank you for the insider knowledge and breaking it down. Someone else may have covered it, but just in case they haven't, her name is pronounced Tar-yuh.

[@Ozzy_2014]

Taa rrr ee aa if we want to be true to the Finnish rolled rs. Extend the 1st a sound as well of rolls in the throat. Practice males perfect .

[@michaelm.1947]

@@Ozzy_2014 Listen to the expert here, not me. I just tried to write it out as I've heard it used on her IG channel. Thanks for the heads up!

[@Aurinkohirvi]

Blackjealousy happened. Triangle drama. Publically it was something else. Also, yeah, they did disagree on how long world tours should be, and how many gigs in a week. Tarja wanted less both, the boys wanted more both. The boys wanted to go full speed when they were in rising trend, and Tarja was stepping on breaks. (Not the main reason though). But one of these things why Nightwish so much interests and rises emotions and debate.

[@jaskau2462]

🤩👍💥💯🎼 "Kiitos!" (= Thank you!) in the end... 🤘😎 🇫🇮 💙 "Weak Fantasy" live at Tampere 2015 next by them(???) 🙄

[@MegaDog555]

a must for you Epica Unleashed live official video

[@jawolono1302]

Nice

[@tonogtube]

Nightwish plays symphonic and power metal.

[@moo5862]

If you haven't yet: Listen to the version of Floor Jansen with Henk Poort (beste zangers) Henk was the Dutch Phantom from the 90's and still has it, Floor is a power house who can do anything (and she literally does!) If you loved Tarja and Marco, you'll also like that one.

[@johnojvind7641]

Because Tarja better soprano and Henk opera-musical singer not metal. This is better kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@realulli]

You might want to listen (and/or react?) to a few more recent versions of that song, with the current singer of Nightwish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp2mhJagq6mCgK8 (without the band, but with the male part sung by Henk Poort, who was considered the best phantom by Andrew Lloyd Webber himself) kzbin.info/www/bejne/in6VZJqXiZmtobs (with the full band and Henk, Floor making good on her promise to Henk that they would perform on stage with Nightwish)

[@johnojvind7641]

Tarja better than Floor and Henk second tier singer, I´m afraid. But why check this one, antoher dutch, kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@marklarson5847]

somewhere around the time they fired her i saw an interview with her she was crying.. she basically was upset about it because they fired her for doing solo work she said they knew i was classically trained i don't see why they fired me for doing work in that area .. so basically i took it a they fired her for doing solo opera work.. i have not listened to them since, i tried but the lack of her vocals killed it for me.. when i suggest this song i specify ..the version with tarja in yellow

[@Boa_Omega]

As for the split. Well there are 3 sides to every story. Mine. Yours and the truth. A married woman who knows the importance of protecting herself and her voice learned that her bandmates abuse alcohol and won't even protect her from a rabid drunk who jumped the stage and tried to sexually assault her. It was a road manager and security he put into action that got her away from the nut. Geez why would you object to touring in a bus with those men. Refusing dates no one bothered to tell you abourt, that you never agreeed to? I don't what you have for work boundaries but those crosss mine as well. Notice needs to be given. A reminder she was not an employee, or a recent hire. She was a founder. She has the same 1/3 claim as Tuomas and Emppu. That she never sought an extra writers credit though she could have should tell you something. Ih and that manager who was only a few years with the band was Marcello Cabuli. They celebrated 20 years last month as husband and wife. They are parents to Naiomi (11). Considering no one.else was protecting her interesrs, ruddy good thing someone did. ' friends of 10 years' who behaved like that..... I recommend listening to Diva from Act 1 Diva g.co/kgs/anXGrW Then Anteroom of Death. To see what happens when an Angel gets mad. Anteroom of Death g.co/kgs/TQ4zqo

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Yes, indeed, but the band fired HER!! Why didn’t she walk away!? I have every sympathy for her. The same crap happened to me, on a much smaller level, and I’ll tell you, band members often have little or no loyalty. There’s just a whole lot of jealousy. 🥹

[@jelenacvetkovic]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach She was planning to leave the band after one more album and a tour if I remember correctly, and she informed the band members one or two years in advance. I don't know why they couldn't leave it at that or tell her right then that they don't want to work with her anymore. She needed to rest her voice and that was impossible with their work schedule. Also, they accused her of not wanting to travel with them... She was the only girl among all the men so I think it was logical she didn't want to. She needed her space and privacy. They could've handled that way better. 🤷🏻‍♀ Anyway, thanks for this reaction! I enjoyed your analysis. Keep it up! ✌🏼

[@Boa_Omega]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach she had agreed to one more album and tour. She planned to leave after that. She was already working on her 1st album a dark Christmas album. As for why she put up with them and also never publicly called them out? Patience of a saint. Far better person than I. Note those 2 songs were not.released until years later. She neither confirms nor denies whom they're about. But it's pretty self evident. Also the incident was apparently in Mexico. Keep in mind all Finnish men have to do national service. And Emppu does karate. Neither stepped up to help. Now yes it is also evident that Tuomas had feelings for his leading lady. To which her not being in love with/married to him was an issue. It is confirmed that Marcello and Tarja called Tuomas to their room for a heart to heart discussion. The 2 principles have said nothing regarding the subject. Marcello put it out in the response to the open letter. No one has confirmed or denied his claims as to the discussion. However speculation is it was a warning to back off. She is married and Tuomas was not welcome. Like I said before 3 sides. None of us were privy to the conversation. But it hardly seems divaish for a married woman not to want to be in a state of undress around her male band mates or to rather have space for her and her husband. One other point you get if others don't. How many famous musicians who abused drugs and alcohol especially blew out their voices for lack of care? Tarja has a good ritual for before and after the show to get ready, then recover from the show taking a few hours. Time she needs privacy for. Sounds reasonable enough. But as you see they were young. Ranging from 26 to 29 then. Maturity and no doubt having wives explaining it to them helped them understand better Tarja's needs. Like I said relations seem to be civil but cool. Though this did not stop Tuomas, the label, Tarja and Tapio Wilska ex NW roadie/guest vocalist and current Finnish metal God from teaming up with the road crew band (Crewwish) to put out a 2nd album during lockdown. Since they could not tour. During this show the opening track is from Once, Dark Chest of Wonders. Tarja and Tapio reunited for the album to sing duet. They did so again for Crewish, also Tuomas did the keyboards. Sent all that via email from respective studios.Crewish called their album Twice. 😁 just the kind of person Tarja is to reach out and help those in need. Tuomas' mother was the village's piano teacher. Taught Tarja as well. And yes she can play and compose as well. When Tuomas' mother passed a few years ago Tarja was 1st to reach out. She lost her own mother in 2002. There is a concert from Germany iirc shortly after, you can see she is fighting tears during the show. Empathy she has tons of. Just goes to show her character. Also I don't know the accuracy but her and Marcello are reported to be in the mid 9 figure range for networth. Sound business investments. Their primary home is in Spain. But they lived in his native Argentina and they now have a home in the British Carribean on Antigua. Her new project 10 years in the making was filmed there with Torsten Stenzel and world class guitarists Like Joe Santorini. So she really has done well for herself. She makes music for passions sake. Her.auto biography is called singing in my blood. Well her little brother Toni and daughter Naomi seem to have it in their blood too, so I believe it.

[@normenneulich1952]

Where did you get the information? "that their bandmates abuse alcohol" were you on tour with Nightwish? Have you ever seen them drunk? We only know 2 sides, what really happened inside the band we don't know. I know the video of the attack. whether he tried to sexually abuse her we also do not know. There was no information about it. If you have such information, let me know.

[@FemaleMetalLover]

​@@normenneulich1952 LOL, watch the documentary End of Innocence. They practically swim in alcohol, and they admit to it in the bibliography too. No secret there really. + Marco is an ex-alcoholic.

[@wanmac31]

🇫🇮😁🇫🇮💙🪄🎼✨💯🤘

[@Ewa.G.-Wu.]

Kitos = thank you in english

[@MarielleSweden]

Now you just have to listen to Tommy Johanssons' version of this. He is the lead guitarist in Sabaton (Swedish power metal and) and has his own band too and does covers on KZbin. 😊

[@johnojvind7641]

Can you give a link from a live perfomance so we truly can judge him, if not, he is dismissed.

[@MarielleSweden]

@@johnojvind7641 And who are you?

[@johnojvind7641]

@@MarielleSweden Ok, so no links, the guy then seems to be nothing more than a studio product, really impressive. For real singers we then can look elsewhere, why not beginn with this pair. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@Geefater79]

I would be interested in your opinion about this production, if we add that Tarja had the flu that day. Anyway, the short story of the breakup is that Tarja wanted them to take on fewer gigs because she was worried about her voice. The other members did not agree to this, so Tarja indicated even before the tour that she would leave the band after it was over. And Tuomas did not handle this situation well. Even the band was founded by Tarja, Tuomas and Emppu.

[@iconsaffron4843]

Quite liked Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum's version too ! But I'm biased 🤣🤣🤣

[@MetalMann-de3xi]

Everyone keeps forgetting that Andrew Lloyd Webber stole the riff from Pink Floyd's Echoes when they give historical facts about the piece.

[@an0ana]

Loved your reaction and animated explanations! ♥ Totally different genre if you want something to tease your ears; check out Maria Franz in Heilung "Krigsgaldr". The live performance has a unique flavor to it, but the normal song and video are quite interesting as well. I don't want to spoil it if you do decide to check them out, but fasten your seat belt!

[@runebrun307]

just because people is fan of something do not make them fanatic

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Correct, not in the modern sense of the word but I gather the original of the word “fan” is a shortening of “fanatic.” Not relevant now though.

[@Mr.Greeeeeen]

Marko has said afterwards that Tarja wasn’t the problem but her husband, and that’s why they trough her out from the band, because they couldn’t handle the situation. She also, before that, had decided to leave NW and go solo. The whole thing is a dirty story but history. But, I still think she’s irreplacable, for sure, no matter what. 👊👊👊

[@Ozzy_2014]

Marcello stood up for Tarja. Yep that was a problem. What the band wanted, and the label wanted would have destroyed her voice, livelihood and mental health as well as physical health. Since she has only gotten more skilled over the last 18 years with 19 albums to her name so far and 2 more announced she was right to protect her interests. I don't even suggest malice or Ill intent an honest difference of priorities will do it. They see her as a commodity to fame and profits. But it's her life and career. Her responsibility to put herself 1st. And of course her manager and her husband's responsibility. There is such a thing as being overgiving. Of being taken advantage of because you don't like confrontation. Just thoughts to ponder.

[@saifullahfullah8964]

next isyana saraswati from Indonesia

[@vogel2280]

Why they fired Tarja? I'll try to keep it brief. Before this last album together, Tarja had already given notice (too far ahead in time) she would leave the band. It was the band life of living in a tourbus for 12 months in row that got to her. She made a deal: She would 2 more albums together, but because she did not want to be on that bus (ever again), she would fly-in just before the show and leave right after. The rest of the band found out that that meant she was not pulling her weight on promotional stuff in between concerts. Also, when one member is no longer invested in the future of the band, that did not sit well. But worst was yet to come: this tour got extended from 12 to 18 months without consulting Tarja, because she was not on that bus when the decision was made. Tickets of dozens of concerts were sold in minutes and when Tarja found out, she did whatever she could to have those sold-out concerts CANCELLED. That kind of betrayal was unacceptable to the rest of the band and they decided to finish this tour together, but to NOT to include her in that last album and last tour. So far all was perfectly reasonable, until they cocked up with a nasty resignation letter that they released to the public hours later.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Tour buses are fairly unpleasant places, but “flying in” Woolf bf regarded as very starry behaviour. I was in a band when decisions were made behind my back without my consent and it’s really horrible. I left and, fifteen years later, they are still doing the sand drudgery tours - but driving themselves!!

[@k.l.7788]

Well, that was bit of an Tarja sided version of what happened. 😂

[@cmlemmus494]

Worth noting that some sources also reported there was a long period of tension between Tarja's husband/manager, Marcelo Cabuli, and Tuomas. Cabuli was the person who was encouraging her to go solo originally. From her apparent surprise at being fired the way she was, I'd guess that she didn't really want to leave. Since the two are still married, though, nothing much has been said about that.

[@vogel2280]

@@k.l.7788 Is it? The problem started with Tarja not wanting to be on the bus. The rest was a mere cause and effect. And I even get it, when everybody is loud and having fun (drinking), but you are the one person that has to stay sober and keep your mouth shut, because you need to be singing on stage tomorrow. But THAT comes with her job. If she did not like it she was free to leave. But then I'd say....leave and don't be the 'GHOST LOVE'.

[@vogel2280]

@@cmlemmus494 I too heard about animosity between Tuomas an Marcello, but I wasn't there (Oh, how I would have loved to be there) But in the end, Tarja was an adult who is responsible for her own decisions, no matter who was telling her what to do.

[@sunshaker01]

Nightwish has done another version of this song with the 3rd female vocalist, Floor Jansen, and featuring Henk Poort. 17 years later, different singers, different feel, just as epic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/in6VZJqXiZmtobs

[@Mr.Greeeeeen]

Impossible, 🤭

[@johnojvind7641]

Such a big chcik and still so weak high notes, this is how you do it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@r.e.4640]

All hale the REAL TRUE QUEEN 👑 of NIGHTWISH!!!, the very beautiful looking and very unique voice of the enchanting TARJA!!!😀👍👍🤘

[@Matutemorales123]

Awesome reaction. Sub

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Thanks!

[@Matutemorales123]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach keep the good work.

[@종현강-t5f]

How are you.Dear Mr Bangkok coch. Next time forestella's original new song While Night 🌙 for your reaction please. & KBS immortal song 2 ""Despacito ""(spenishian version), "Legend Never Die " for your watching the reaction please 🙏 have a great day good luck 👍 bye-bye. 👋💕🌹💖

[@리얼루-d6q]

편곡이 멋있어요. 굉장히 인상적이네요. FORESTELLA(KOREAN CROSSOVER VOCAL 4중창단)의 멤버 강형호(PITTA)가 나이트위시의 이 곡에서 영감을 받아서 남자 여자 파트를 혼자서 다 연주하는 무대가 있어요. 이 무대와는 또 다른 느낌입니다. 이 곡도 분석 해 주셨으면 좋겠어요. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbSlmSbZtOmpLMsi=sBmgSkwIeNeHTnF7

[@brianwillson9567]

This is brilliant. It’s impossible not to love this. But see also the recent Nightwish ‘phantom’ with Floor and Henk Porte guesting as Phantom. And having seen that sound out Andra Ariadna’s cover. That is brilliant,she sings BOTH Christine AND Phantom.

[@NightAuracle]

You may really like their new singer Floor. Go check out her live performances of Ghost Love Score.

[@Mr.Greeeeeen]

And here we go, 😂

[@CCEDE73]

I really like the Phantom of the Opera and have seen it quite a few times at the theatre. This version of thes track is my favorite. Nightwish's new lead singer Floor has also sung the it with the band and Hank Poort 🙂

[@johnojvind7641]

Amira sings on antoher level, kzbin.info/www/bejne/omLTdZZ-fKuUY6M

[@manojkumarsharma4431]

Why u not reply to gmail

[@johnhitchens2265]

Money/personalities/philosophy - take your pick. Once Tarja married, there were two managers - Tarja's husband managed her, and Nightwish had their own manager - recipe for disaster. Philosophy - Tarja wanted to do fewer venues to larger audiences, did not want months-long bus trips across America playing iffy places to smaller crowds, the band thought you need to do that to build your following - can't have a lead singer who refuses to tour the US. Personalities - the relationship between Tuomas, band leader, and Tarja, was complicated - we'll leave it at that. In the end, it was the right decision, for many reasons, but the execution of it was handled rather poorly, and is still a matter of controversy to this day. Fortunately, both Nightwish and Tarja thrived in the ensuing years

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Actually, I'm with Tarja! Promoters making us do old school audience-building across the US and Canada in a minibus is what made me leave my band. It was hard after building up something over six years but I'm glad I did. They replaced me and, guess what, twenty years later they are still building up an audience across US and Canada except even smaller venues!!

[@kersa6574]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Tarja toured in the US this year. She's amazing with smaller, more intimate venues. What she needed was shorter tours, more time and space to warm up her voice and also to become her own artist. I heard she was sick constantly on tours back then. But she's wonderful with her fans.

[@nicholew350]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach Pretty much the same with Nightwish. The venues aren’t smaller, but they’re not any bigger. Lol

[@Mischnikvideos]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach The problem with the US is that it's so huge. You can tour for years and not been everywhere. It works better in Europe because it's more densely populated. The same number of viewers in less time.

[@jpsother1183]

@@Mischnikvideos ala "In the USA 100 years is a long time, in Europe, 100 miles is a long distance"

[@MetalWar04]

Can you react to tormento e pazzione from ascending to infinity album please?! Greetings from Chile

[@tracyfarnath2270]

Finally William you got round to Nightwish I hope you carry on with their music it's a fantastic journey thank you for your reaction🇬🇧 Their current singer Floor Jansen is excellent too try Ghostove score or her version of the phantom with Henk Poort from Amsterdam. 😊

[@traceywoolston7924]

i expected reaction to be more realistic...im sorry but im a huge phantom fan and tbh when i heard this in even on the cleaned up album version...its darn awful :S

[@helimustonen8895]

Not 😁 tarsa its Tarya Tarja think j as y not s

[@bennybuffylove]

The best version of Phantom of the Opera that never was. Marko and Floor.

[@johnojvind7641]

Nope, Tarja better soprano, the reactor is an opera singer so he knows. And Henk a second tier opera singer and zero Metal, he should not try imitate something he can´t handle, better be honest to himself by staying to his original musical-opera style.

[@MarieJohanna760]

@@bennybuffylove no...floor does not have the Power.

[@Angelicwings1]

Tarja is not as good as Sarah Brightman

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

Sarah was unique. Strange but very distinctive.

[@Angelicwings1]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach is you mean. She’s still performing.

[@BangkokVoiceCoach]

@@Angelicwings1 I thought she retired.

[@Angelicwings1]

@@BangkokVoiceCoach nope she’s doing sunset boulevard in Australia soon actually