Barbarians Season 2 Is A COMPLETE Disaster

Netflix Barbarians original name Barbaren is a Netflix show I have reviewed already several times when it comes to season one. But season two is here so I watched it and here I am, sharing the experience :D
The show is set in 10 AD during the beginning of Roman operations in Germania, one year after the defeat at Teutoburgh forest. We see Tiberius and Germanicus starting to move new forces in the area, but the Germanic barbarians aren't having it. And so they butcher everyone, they win, Rome is defeated, GG.
Huuuummm, I have a feeling that's not exactly how history goes....
#barbarians #netflix #season2

[@chrisbedwards]

It took the Netflix producers all of their emotional energy not to include a black woman in season one. But by the time season two rolled around, they just didn't have the strength to resist anymore.

[@warrenbuffet5152]

A "CARTHAGINIAN" black woman. Lmao.

[@Diogolindir]

@@warrenbuffet5152 exactly. Dude, you could have a Numidian woman who is the grandaughter of a Numidian auxilia cavalry man for Caesar and that would make sense. She doesn't need to have a high trauma towards Rome to be interesting.

[@AntiLifeEquation1]

They couldn't help themselves. I said the same thing and Im black.

[@hazzmati]

And ofc they had to portray a north african punic as a subsaharan african

[@warrenbuffet5152]

@@hazzmati Woketionary: "AFRICAN" = "BLACK"

[@storymaker299]

Don’t you love it when history is an inconvenience to the writers of a historical drama

[@legiran9564]

Only an inconvenience to those with an agenda.

[@warrenbuffet5152]

Germanic wokeism.

[@diegosalazar4188]

They’re salty and have to change history because Latin is Number 1

[@kaltaron1284]

Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@leo.scotti]

Naah. I love them. As a Roman Legionary with Cartago, just before to burn it to the ground and pass salt on it. Just to be sure no one will rebuild it 😂

[@ThutUPB]

Having a Carthaginian character that survived the sack of Carthage in this show is like having a veteran of the siege of Yorktown going with Tom Hanks to save certain Private Ryan... Why are they doing this?

[@oz_jones]

"Come on, let's go kill some Redcoats!" "Bill, for the last time, it's Nazis."

[@ChimpFromSpace]

They need their precious quotas. Even though a historical Carthaginian would've looked indistinguishable from a Roman.

[@TrueNativeScot]

and the veteran of Yorktown was the wrong race for ((some reason))

[@nunodasilva5449]

I did watch until that point. I wasn't very pleased but sure it's a TV show. But when they placed the black Carthaginian married with a Germanic, having a flashback of the destruction of Carthage (150 years prior), then a homosexual relationship between Arminius brother and the chief of the Marcomanni, I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't only the inaccuracies, those scenes seem forced there.

[@321AlterSchwede]

You ask why? In every series this days they are pushing a political agenda. Its always they want to turn the real world into a political correct utopian world. in every tv series women are excellent fighters far better than each man and people of colour are alway brave, hardworking humble and good persons. Its the communistic agenda since ever to change people believes about the world to change the world. But this never works due to physical and biological laws, but the wokist will ignore that forever. That this kind of filmmaking is political driven and made for brainwashing people you can find out from the hysteria, the mob cries as soon someone puts the finger in the wound of all their lies. Insetad of beeing able to discuss all their believes they mark the critic as "racist", "Mysogynistic" and so on. Of course its not rcist to mention that england in the middle ages wherent full of africans. And its not mysogynistic to mention that woman have weaker muscles for biolocical reasons and therefore armys consist of males.

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

These geniuses had the perfect story already written for them. It had plot twists, revenge, betrayal, tragedy, love and ambition. All they had to do is follow the history and not be stupendously incompetent. However...

[@aizac91]

@Rajnasya are you blind? They’re the Romans of the Italians. Freaking Indian, what do you know about European history? Plus, Germans are not Nordics. Nordics are Scandinavia and Baltic people. How about you go finish your curry before talking about European history and its people.

[@RowLetTom]

@Rajnasyawhat does it mean

[@coreywho2972]

​@Rajnasyavery true, it's a big reason why an OVERABUDANCE of people today see Romans and even ancient Greeks as extremely white with blonde hair. Like modern pictures of Alexander T.G or Caesar, they are always depicted with long, flowing blonde hair when in reality they 90% would have had curly black or brown hair. And they would've been much darker too, not dark skinned ofc but a heck of a lot darker than Scandinavians and Germanic people.

[@Robert-le3hi]

@Rajnasya all the main Romans in this series were played by Italians lol sems you have no idea what an average Italian looks like

[@PC_Simo]

@@Robert-le3hi Exactly 🎯!

[@samhaleyeah]

Fun fact: In the post-credit scene of the last episode, Hannibal and Attila emerge armed with AK-47's

[@Soapy-chan_old]

I believe it

[@jonbaxter2254]

Shoot man, I'd watch that... like an anime with histories greatest warrioirs or something...

[@warrenbuffet5152]

Reality: Germans had AKs and still lost.

[@kaltaron1284]

Are you sure those weren't AK-74Ms? Easy mistake but those would be more time period appropriate. They also need some Ooyoroi just for that special touch.

[@leonrussell9607]

@@jonbaxter2254 that anime is called drifters

[@Diogenes_43]

The thing that drives me craziest is that the actual story is better than the garbage they came up with.

[@e.corellius4495]

to be fair thats most historical adaptations, or just adaptations of real events period. actual history is one crazy story. stories so crazy they are "unbelievable" to general audiences, so what actually happened often gets "toned down" so that general audiences can reasonably believe what's happening on screen. been like that for decades.

[@LegioXXI]

Yes. Especially the drama between Arminius and his brother. Like you dont even need to do some ass pulls to write a good and engaging story, if history itself is delivering it right onto your doorstep. Its like adding sugar to a bottle of Cola because its not sweet enough.

[@HorFell]

Yea it is but the actual history would blow up their vision for a shit tier German propaganda piece (Not that anything wrong with being German or proud of it. Just not at the expense of history) as Arminius from Teutuborg on gets dunked on by Germanicus.

[@mc_zittrer8793]

Nothing shocking about that. Just look at how the Witcher is turning out - Netflix drove off Henry Cavill, and now they're driving off historical advisors for a period piece. Somehow, I'm detecting a theme here.

[@sadge6873]

It's literally always the case of series/movies that shit on source material and think they can do better.

[@Epsilonsama]

The time traveling Carthaginian and Germanicus is fucking insane. First of all, by 10 AD Carthage was a part of the Empire and a pretty important one. Also last time I heard Carthaginians were Semitic people not Sub-Saharan Africans. Good lord man. Also the actual history of Arminius is great for a Drama. It doesn't end well for him true but that still makes great story. The drama between him and his brother alone works great. Why did the writers feel the need to change everything up, mess with history so much? Also Germanicus was not some monster he was a man of his time but from everything recorded in history about him he was really popular and consider a Great Man in his era and I feel they did him hella dirty here

[@admirekashiri9879]

Carthage was founded by Phoenicians from Lebanon but, don't forget the region was predominantly inhabited by native Africans the ancestors of the Berbers! They were not Semitic. Secondly not all black people are Sub Saharan there were black people in Carthage too.

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

Yeah that really bothered me

[@iRedditShorts]

@@admirekashiri9879 I'm pretty sure Carthage was a Phoenician city-state founded by Tyrians from Lebanon. The Carthaginian aristocracy prided themselves as "Tyrians" and spoke Phoenician. Hannibal's first language was Phoenician. Also, unfortunately enough, only full-blooded Phoenicians could attain Carthaginian citizenship. Berbers could not at all receive citizenship. Those of mixed Phoenician and Libyan ancestry got to enjoy some citizenship rights, but not all. Your argument is invalid.

[@stephenrusso6019]

The hate boner for Rome is widespread, had a guy try to tell me he did not have one but then proceeded to say the Romans were the most genocidal, bloodthirsty blah blah blah. clearly does not understand history at all.

[@Jakethegoodman]

The re-racialozing of Carthage as some kind of black power symbol has been an obsession of the Left from A & E to Disney. Personally aside from the blatant cynicism accompanying race obsession, it actually seems to make an argument that Western Civilization was superior in its' victory. Yet like all things in clown world the facts dont matter and it's easier to say everyone else was just evil because racisms. Never mind that they weren't even black.

[@Nushnark]

You know, one of the worst things in season 2, at least for me, was the reveal of how the romans would get reinforcements. For those who haven't bothered to watch the season, here's a short recap: The germans managed to capture Germanicus, whom they torture for information. And after a lot of back and forth where the Germans says something like "It's not possible that you get reinforcements, we watch every road." To which Germanicus replies with the most smug look: "Oh, we don't use the road." Cut to a random river with a metric ton of ships. I mean, it's not like every civilization ever has used rivers for transporting goods and people for the last 4000 years, and it's not like the Roman encampment is right next to a river.... Oh, wait, it is! Does Netflix think that everyone only has 2 functioning braincells?

[@w-james9277]

It's not like the Germans will have settlements along the river bank. Why would anyone choose to live next to a river?

[@Cobalt1520]

Actually, I believe that part of the story is accurate, the Germans were not expecting the romans to cross the Rhine so fast. Of course, Germanicus was never captured by Arminius.

[@Kinuhbud]

They want the viewers to focus on the characters and their relationships is my take I guess. I found the first season to be very compelling and enjoyed it. It honestly still fucks with me--the scene where she slashes her own eye, but it was a powerful scene that was meant to show something to the viewer. I watched like an episode or so of season two and it seemed a little more meh... Season one had a great build up and satisfying ending with Arminius defeating his 'Pater.' I think they ran out of steam like how so many shows decline after they continue running...

[@illerac84]

@@Kinuhbud But it didn't have to. For over a year fans of history and this topic were wondering, "oh man, what is Germanicus going to be like?" "How will it be when Flavus and Arminus have their storied argument on the river bank?" We got none of it. They had the material, and botched it. D&B couldn't have even screwed this up so badly.

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

These people think they are smart, and if they can't think of anything better you can't. Little do they know that they are brain damaged.

[@kaltaron1284]

The Tolkien adviser on Rings of Power also quit or was fired. Now how did that one turn out again.... Always a good sign...

[@HS-su3cf]

Tom Shippey was fired. He is one of the world's leading experts on Tolkien. Don't have Amazon, so I haven't watched RoP. The main complaint I have heard about RoP is that it badly written and boring.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@HS-su3cf I've only watched reviews and "reviews" of it. The last one being the kind that really rips it apart. Far more enjoyable so far. And yeah, the name escaped me and I didn't look it up Thanks.

[@IamOutOfNames]

@@HS-su3cf Doesn't even begin to describe it. They bought the rights for appendices (appendixes? appendixises? whatever) for LoTR books, they didn't have legal rights to use anything else from Tolkien canon so they made their own shit up. Majority if it is poorly written fanfic that butchers established lore. It's Tolkien in name only.

[@Tugela60]

It is always bad when middle earth scholars are not consulted. After all, they have spend a lifetime studying the historical sources from ancient middle earth libraries.

[@saxon.ad410]

@@HS-su3cf I thouhjt it as supposed to have been based on the Silmarillion, but its nothing like it at all . Casting a a 6ft abysmal black"comedian " that goes by the name of Lenny Henry playing a part of a hobbit fecking ruined what could have beem a brilliant series..

[@weloveTM123]

I just love how apparently in this show Roman generals have nothing better to do than just adopt barbarian kids.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

This basically comes from them "adopting" tons and tons of barbarians into the family, as something like patrons with a familial tie (taking a nomen). And the showrunners either didn't understand that, or wanted to make Arminius more his "son". The Julians, for instance, had HUNDREDS of families take the Julianus cognomen as their patrons in Gaul. They could have just explained this, so maybe people would learn an interesting sociological fact about the Romans. But nope, they went the dumb route, "Ah yeah, he's my adoptive dad"

[@weloveTM123]

@@Nick-hi9gx The ending with Tiberius too. Like what does he want with that baby? It made no sense or is he THAT afraid of Thusnelda that he's gotta blackmail her with a child? The fact that the true relationship between Tiberius and Germanicus was never mentioned gritted my nerves. The audience DESERVES to know why he is known as "Germanicus". You can't just have a Roman general randomly waltz in with such a nickname and never address what's that about. Not everyone knows that part of Roman history.

[@Nick-hi9gx]

@@weloveTM123 I didn't get to the end. Only got to episode 3 I think. And about Germanicus, I agree. In fact, the entire show would have been much better with a Roman POV a chunk of the time for the sake of exposition of Roman culture, history of the period, politics and the people involved.

[@keizoxd5623]

@@weloveTM123 also wasnt the Name Germanicus he got after he won all the Battles in Germania? Like Scipio Africanus, he got the surfix Africanus after defeating Hannibal and destroying Carthage.

[@weloveTM123]

@@keizoxd5623 No, he was already named Germanicus after his father Drusus Nero Germanicus, who was known for his victories over Germania. When he came to defeat Arminius' rebellion, he was already known as Germanicus.

[@Vanhenrik]

Just listened to a podcast with Season 1's Historical Advisor. Since it's in German, here's the synopsis: He was fine with "adding" things here and there in season one, but when he got the script for season 2, he didn't feel like doing pure fiction

[@gjk282]

The historical advisors published a shortened video in English a couple of days ago. And boy, are they being explicit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp_Wo5VspdSpq6c

[@cp1cupcake]

One of them just made a video about why they quit and it seemed that they didn't like how they had 'all Romans as evil' and decided that the best way to not show the myth of the unified, superior German peoples.....was to do just that.

[@grewdpastor]

@@cp1cupcake ... and the producers missed the unique chance to highlight how diverse the Roman society was: there were certainly blacks from Ethiopia and Nubia in Rome, not in big numbers but still. Those could even be in a formation of Auxilliarii adjoined to a Legion. Also, the existence of all kind of sexual identity variants in Rome are well documented. However one chose the course: Rome = colonialism = corrupt = bad 🤔🤐 F O O L S !!!

[@thomaskoppensteiner5557]

Where do I find this podcast? What is the name of the show? It sounds interesting.

[@gjk282]

@@thomaskoppensteiner5557 , Kaptorga Visual History. I put a link top the shorter English summary above. The longer German podcast is from a few weeks back - you'll find it in their videos list no problem.

[@AgentXA564]

At least Asterix has the excuse that he's using a magic potion. And even then, he was hesitant to fight the most elite Roman soldiers.

[@randomcamus9445]

Imagine being a Roman and being able to buy barbaric women and choose the one you like the most🤤🥵 . . .

[@adonvonilesere5642]

Real history is usually entertaining enough by itself

[@als3022]

Often much more interesting

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Yeah but it’s also very complex and hard to wrap your head around without extensive knowledge of the period. Might as well phone it in.

[@rodrigorafael.9645]

Lets not lie to ourselfs, it was Just as mundane as today, and anti-Climatic as hell.

[@mm-ir1ii]

yeah but it doesn't fit the Woke narrative

[@rodrigorafael.9645]

@@mm-ir1ii Who is talking about woke?

[@IronWarrior86]

The only reason they included a Carthaginian character is because they wanted to have a black person in the show, even though Carthaginians were not black.

[@ErdoganIstKeinZiegenfi...]

and also done for and destroyed by Rome 200 years earlier...

[@johan13135]

Netflix has a real fetish for black people, but consider Arab/N Africans as nothing more than terrorist, and Americans as a whole share that view too. So that's why they would never cast a Lebanese actor for that role

[@Vlad_Tepes_III]

@@ErdoganIstKeinZiegenfi... Secretly immortal, perhaps? Magically magical person? Oh, could be an actual revenant, even.

[@dondeestaCarter]

And the only reason they want to include a black man on a purely european theater is to blackwash (blackdirt, actually) european history, as they've done in inumerable historical shows for the past decade. They even painted the germanic warriors pitch black to make their dumb audience have visual "muh slavery" flashbacks. Their agenda is so visible now even the mindless sheep bulk of the white population are noticing something against them and their skin color is going on.

[@mortache]

@@ErdoganIstKeinZiegenfi... I mean, they didn't kill ALL of them. The city was repopulated and its not impossible to have a Numidian living there. But why not just bring a Nubian there, since they literally did fight Augustus quite successfully in the same time period?

[@TheBeastCH]

Asterix gets away with it, because of the magic potion that gives him superhuman powers for a short amount of time after he drinks it. The potion, and the Druid making it, are the main reason that little gaul village manages to defend itself from the entire Roman army for years and years and years...

[@hugolorente7705]

I got so sad when I saw how they portrayed Germanicus when he was in fact probably the greatest Roman general since Marcus Agrippa

[@zoom4897]

I'm starting to think writers are the root problem of any series being produced these days. They carry too much influence on their own and can for some reason inact it in what they release for the shows. It's absolutely disrespectful to the source material, as if they'd give a damn about any of that.

[@SuperDaxos]

You are correct

[@ITBEurgava]

And if something bad happened to their work, they gonna rant it on some twitter.

[@matthewmuir8884]

I don't think it's the writers that have too much power; often, they're overworked, underpaid, and only have enough time to hand in a first draft. The Showrunners, on the other hand, have a ton of power and ego. Of course, as a result of the conditions for writers often being nightmarish, the writers willing to survive it are often ones with an ego, so I suppose one form of toxicity feeds another in this case.

[@ITBEurgava]

@@matthewmuir8884 touche

[@davidlericain]

Blame the producers. The writers just write what they're told to write.

[@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2]

To anybody understanding German I recommend the history channel "Kaptorga". One of the guys there was a historical advisor for S1 and they talked in a recent video about what his role there was and why he quit. From what I remember (I was playing Skyrim while watching it ^^), the advisors for the swords were the only ones that stuck around. Also as a hobby-funditor and sling enthusiast, it really angers me that the showrunners didn't want the Romans to have slings because they were "tOo PrImItIvE" for the Romans. THE ROMANS USED SLINGS; ERGO THEY WEREN'T TOO PRIMITIVE FOR THEM: End of the story. People in 2022 use physical books, ergo depicting us in 3022's film productions with books is not too primitive for us. Same principle. Edit: funditor, not fundator, ffs.

[@user-vl2mr8mr5u]

Guess they heard of the Balearic slingers.

[@g3rn0m4ly7]

Just Imagine how much Firepower they had 🤯 Every Legionary had a sling and ammunition.

[@Legionaer666]

Thx for the tip. Do you know the name of the video?

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@g3rn0m4ly7 it would be devastating, highly organized sling regiments is a horrifically effective force. Yeah I want to charge at the guys flinging stones with enough force to crack through my skull.

[@ComfyDents]

"Geschichtsfenster" ist mein neuer Lieblingskanal zu Geschichte. :-D

[@aitanacruz9882]

Also something I noticed is that this show REALLY loves father-son conflict. First it was Arminius and Varus, who didn't meet irl until the battle as far as I know, then it was Tiberius and Germanicus, then Arminius and Gaius.

[@mrgiraffelover7388]

Germanicus was actually Tiberius' Nephew and Varus had no relationship to Arminius at all.

[@helios4753]

I had a feeling they wouldn't have the balls to tell the actual story. The reason being is because in season one, my mum and I both felt bad for Varus. The show did its best to make him look bad with all the bad guy music and what not, but he never actually did anything bad. The conflict starts with a miscommunication, and then he's betrayed by his son that he trusts more than anyone to sort out the problem. And he only ever talks about him in a positive light. Then Arminius just betrays him and has a whole army butchered. Like wtf dude. After that I told my mum about what's supposed to happen next and she said "well that's not gonna happen"

[@morpho5539]

Glad to see Netflix is sticking with their reputation. My guess is that there will be no season three and maybe that’s for the best.

[@billdehappy1]

like marco polo...never finnished viewing it as got to know it would be cancel i just thought whats the point aswell not got netflix myself was a current girlfriend that had it...

[@EroticOnion23]

Didn't some famous German say "A lie repeated 1000 times becomes the truth."?...😅

[@mrmikemontei9810]

Season 3 is coming..

[@rhysioeren3203]

Hope we will have a season 3, looking forward for thusnelda to slice a few Roman throats 🤓, and she looks fantastic on make up, no one can't deny that.

[@akostorma3930]

I wanted to see the 2nd season so much, because I knew what was going to happen in the show. Or... at least what should have been depicted. It is so sad that the show betrayed what it was meant to be and threw historical accuracy out the window.

[@haidner]

This!

[@truonggiabao2348]

Same, I was going to watch it expecting somewhat realistic looking battles with the Romans in proper formations, etc.

[@louispellissier914]

they turned the history within season one in a fucking soap opera where the actual protagonist is Thusnelda instead of Arminius and you waited for season 2? cmon xD

[@OkabexKurisu]

@@louispellissier914 well the german word 'Tussi' stems from 'Thusnelda' and can roughly translated to sassy self entitled woman.

[@akostorma3930]

@@louispellissier914 I wouldn't say they made Thusnelda the main protagonist, though they definitely put a bigger emphasis on her. I was ready to turn a blind eye - pun unintended - to all their shenanigans if the 2nd season turned out good with the Romans kicking ass. I'm so tired of the freedom fighters trope... I just don't know why did I ever think just for a second that they'd make something honest, naive me.

[@mrmdemeter1]

I actually loved this show... that scene where King Morbad leads the Riders of Rohan to break the Siege of Minas Tirith and smashes into the Roman army... then Thusnelda avenges Arminius’ death by killing Emperor Tiberius and his Fell Beast with the help of the little Celt... heart wrenching!

[@gustavoritter7321]

That Parthian Magi ressurrecting Augustus just to kill him again was nice too and very historically accurate

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

When she kicks the messenger into the bottomless pit and yells "THIS - IS - MORBIUS!!!" had me in tears

[@NathanaelTheAussie]

“We must add drama because there wasn’t any in history already” 🤪🤪 100% agree with everything you have said here mate 👍 hit the nail on the head. TELL THE TRUTH!

[@plemcam]

What's sad is the actual story about Germanicus and Arminius is FASCINATING...but Netflix just couldn't help themselves.

[@Naikomi603]

We don't know the actual story, we have only one account which is probably also mostly fiction

[@plemcam]

@@Naikomi603 I'd venture to say, rather confidently, that it's a less fictional account than the dumpster fire Netflix put out.

[@Naikomi603]

@@plemcam you think that half naked women charging into a battle is realistic?

[@MechaShadowV2]

@@Naikomi603 notice he said less fictional.

[@Naikomi603]

@@MechaShadowV2 I consider both Tacitus and barbarians political propaganda, with very little historical accuracy

[@slicerneons3300]

My condolences. It would seem that Neflix is still incapable of not screwing up a historical period piece. Also somebody has a fetish for the Noble Savage concept.

[@Johnnyupside]

Now we just have to wait for Indian American version

[@valiantthorr7577]

It was updated for modern audiences

[@malafakka8530]

That's not a Netflix problem. This has been happening for a century by now. And it will still be happening several centuries later.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

The noble savage and the white mans burden are concepts still widely approved of by the modern left of the political spectrum.

[@Potatoes85858]

Can't wait to see them make series about Karl May's books, then! Lots of noble savage there. Or nooooo, that is racist. Can't do sry not sry...

[@aksel_5537]

1:14 I 100% agree with your opinion that the series is historical inaccurate, but the romans didn’t kick germanic asses in this campaign, they wrote they did, but they didn’t… but hej, in this case not the winners (the germanic tribes) write history, but those who write, write history.

[@immature1992]

Couldnt make it past ep 3. When they brought up the fact that, the chick was from Carthage and remembered it being sacked i face palmed and that was that. She some how "survives" the sacking, dosnt get captured and somehow, moves to germany to live happily ever after? I lost it 🤣

[@mtblp7459]

Yeah that's true with the historical advisors. I study archaeology at university and a friend of mine who is an archeologist as well was archeological advisor for season one and he quit for season two, does not want to be associated with the show anymore and even refuses to watch the second season himself

[@WagesOfDestruction]

Now that is very interesting, thanks for the share.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

At least Season 1 was semi-historical and a hell of an entertaining ride. Even though it was certainly a creative liberty that Varus was this connected to Arminius, it was a solid gut punch when he died (in historically accurate fashion no less).

[@oz_jones]

Based and Indiana Jones -pilled your friend is.

[@guidodraheim7123]

Yeah, Kaptorga has strong relations to universities - and they posted a video a month later detailing "Why we QUIT as Historical Advisors on Barbarians II"

[@scrapmason3721]

I can imagine how the conversation between the writers must have went: "Hey, let's change this historical show into Game of Thrones" "Cool, should we imitate the good seasons?" "No :D"

[@cong3768]

yh and they are both now african

[@nicksingh8061]

Say what you want about this show, but I absolutely loved the moment when the Carthaginian said “It’s Carthing time” and defeated all the Romans

[@Johnny3Batony]

Truly the scene of our time.

[@felipecortez1042]

😂😂😂😂😂😂U made me think about the power rangers and their "it's morphing time"

[@haraldoesgard]

I am so glad that I was reluctend to start watching Babariens un til now! You saved a lot of my spare time my friend. Thank You very much.

[@canadianeh4792]

Hollywood: "Roman armor? Good! Butter? Good! What if we made roman armor, hear me out, out of BUTTER!"

[@realtalunkarku]

polyester

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

It was done by Germany lol

[@chico9805]

@@LuisBrito-ly1ko What's the difference? As if Germany hasn't been made a cultural vassal of America.

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

@@chico9805 Even so, it’s still not Hollywood. You can’t demand accuracy while being inaccurate yourself.

[@chico9805]

@@LuisBrito-ly1ko I'm not demanding accuracy, I'm demanding authenticity. It is not inauthentic to say that German productions are a subsidiary of Hollywood.

[@Historyfan476AD]

In season two I was waiting for Rome's revenge, got Germania fanfiction instead.

[@gilroyopinion]

Same here. I think it should have opened up to a scene in Rome, with an irate Augustus storming back and forth, wailing "bring me back my troops!". That would have given us a sense the scale and gravity of Rome's loss (and it would be good to see more from the Roman perspective anyway, instead of bland good guy vs. bad guy stuff)

[@Historyfan476AD]

@@gilroyopinion Well we did not get that, but instead clearly Netflix's cheap budget Witcher with Roman cosplay.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Same. I was ready to suffer a gut punch watching Rome annihilate Arminius and the Germanic tribes while they bickered among themselves. Started out well enough with the introduction of Germanicus. But then... Oh fuck...

[@Historyfan476AD]

@@TheStraightestWhitest Yep he really went down the pit.

[@lordfreezer9550]

You must be dreaming if you think german show runners are going to portray themselves losing battles and being beaten, I already knew what I was going to get on season 2. We were deceived by season 1, they did that good because that's what they like, winning battles and praising the german resistance

[@podcastler]

the second season was crazy. According to the show, when germanicus was 10 years old, he gathered an army and sacked Carthage, which was already Roman territory, and killed the girl's family himself. That's insane.

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Wonderful job! This shall cited be in my reviews.

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

Even from what I know of the Roman opinion of homosexuality, it wasn’t exactly what we’d see in the modern day. You were allowed to have sexual relations with men, *if,* you were on top and not a bottom. Being a bottom was very shameful and unmanly in Roman society, Caesar was called the ‘husband to every wife, and wife to every husband’, the wife part being an insult as it implied that Caesar was a bottom. If I understand correctly, powerful Roman men would basically R their male slaves as well as their female slaves, and as long as they were on top, it wasn’t seen as unmanly. Moreover the Romans inherited the Greek practice of ‘Pederasty’, wherein an older man would ‘train’ younger boys to become ‘like men’. today we’d call this another P word and the statutory R of a minor. Moreover, the Germanics were different to the Romans, Greeks and even Celts. They were highly monogamous and stuck with their women, and had a less then good opinion of homosexuality, it’s noted that they’d kill homosexual men in bogs.

[@weloveTM123]

THIS!!!!! Finally someone said it!

[@billdehappy1]

yeah..not to mention the greeks view on barbarians as the steppenomads has a more equality betwhen sexes while greeks saw womens as...excepet the spartans famously known for their womens rather than being greates warriors like today are being as it was argos who were famous for their warrior culture because the spartans rarely fought cause fear leaving the helots unguarded ironicly slaves was a thing in the democratic(oligaricy of the male elite of athens more truefull) and the persians that dident practise slavery as wanting to enslave the greeks...

[@billdehappy1]

althought the spartans were knownd and feard of the other greeks as they acutally trained and could do formations on the march unlike the militia hoplites that was the norm for the other greeks to have and lacking the decepline and cohetion of spratans

[@crimsonthumos3905]

It should also be noted that just because being bottom was the most shameful- that doesn't equate to being involved in the act at all being socially acceptable in Roman society. One was worse, but thaf didnt necessarily make the other okay either

[@TomorrowWeLive]

@@crimsonthumos3905 precisely, this is what I point out to people. Even in Ancient Greece Thebans were mocked for being boylovers. I'd equate it to a man who was known to use prostitutes today. Yes it's legal or at least tolerated, but it's certainly not something respectable. It's still looked down and you'd still be disapproved of for it. But unfortunately most people today get their understanding of history from...well from crap like this.

[@catriona_drummond]

As a German I was already gutted by season 1. That beautiful Latin from the Romans - and what do the barbarians speak? Casual, colloquial, lower class German from the 2010s AD. Wasn't just an immersion-breaker, it felt like a kick to the face. Like mixing pasta and ketchup.

[@FlagAnthem]

How much do we know about ancient Germanic languages?

[@FlagAnthem]

@@NDHS1990 so we missed a chance to hear a reconstruction of such idiom. Sad...

[@Spvrinnaeli]

That's a really stupid complaint. It's a show aimed at a modern German audience. It would be unreasonable and unnecessarily inaccessible (albeit, cool, I agree) for them to use some kind of proto-German. For Latin it doesn't matter as much because it takes up comparatively little screen time and we have a lot more attestations of the language and how it sounded. There are certainly worse things to complain about than this.

[@AverageAlien]

to be fair, if you're an english speaker you don't notice

[@obsidianjane4413]

Yes, they should all have had bland midwestern American accents. lol

[@1998topornik]

Thank you for saving my time! It's good that I haven't watched second season yet.

[@millero15]

I would love to see a historical evaluation of the Asterix series.

[@welldoneworker]

plz!

[@kaltaron1284]

Apart from the magic potion it's actually not that bad in many regards I think. OK, maybe Caesar didn't become a gardener with Cleopatra after being ousted by the Gauls. Happier ending than history I guess.

[@warrenbuffet5152]

Barbarians Season 2. Written and directed by Gandolf Hidler.

[@rockoorbe2002]

At least Asterix always came off as a light hearted comedy and satire.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Asterix now a black trans woman...

[@therealvector8955]

I never started this show because I KNEW it would turn out to be the perfect noble barbarians vs. the Evil Roman Empire, although I didn't think the historical inaccuracies would be this bad.

[@NefariousKoel]

I tried watching a couple episodes of the first season and saw where it was quickly heading. Didn't get past those two episodes before never returning. How disappointing.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

The first season wasn't nearly as guilty of that. The second was pure cringe.

[@therealvector8955]

@@TheStraightestWhitest Classic bait and switch.

[@watcher805]

The roman empire WAS pretty immoral

[@therealvector8955]

@@watcher805 Ha, ha! Compared to what? The modern day West? Compared to their contemporaries, as moral as any, if not more so.

[@nicolaezenoaga9756]

I really like the style in this one. Hope you make more videos like this.

[@OldMarinerVintage]

you know i wasnt sure if giving this a watch, but after your video i got the right perspective and im having a blast with it. Man its such trashy guilty pleasure. In the back of my mind im pretending its asterix and obelix the dark live adaptation. Thank you mate !

[@MrHazz111]

If anyone wants a better spin on the Arminius story, I suggest looking up the graphic novel 'The Eagles of Rome by Enrico Marini.' The art is gorgeous and it's packed with historical detail, and it gave me HBO's Rome vibes.

[@fransbuijs808]

Yes, that's a good one!

[@beneficent2557]

It ends at Teutonberg. Needs a sequel.

[@rhyswong8976]

Yes Thank you. That one worthy of Rome

[@squelchotron8259]

Lots of titties, too.

[@O-P-96]

I still remember that comic because of the fate of one of the characters in volume 5. Antiquity is known for its messed up punishments and executions, but what happened to that character really gives another meaning to the "graphic" in "graphic novel".

[@stevebourke9769]

Most movies and TV show the Romans as a bunch of bumbling fools. How did they build and maintain a huge empire if this was so? Keep up the good work.

[@davidconnellan6875]

Same reason that stormtroopers can't shoot straight

[@warrenbuffet5152]

All those intangibles don't show up on the woke big screen.

[@perfecto25]

how things work in screen writers minds: Rome: lets invade and take over huge swaths of land and conquer the people living there also Rome: lets tax them to death, kidnap their kids and act like complete moron twats so we get guaranteed rebellions and never ending wars. lmao

[@g3rn0m4ly7]

@@davidconnellan6875 to be fair there is actually a reason in the original movies. Obviously not in the new ones because Disney has no clue what they are doing

[@PerdiccasMKD]

A certain tribe of people has historicaly deeply rooted hatred for the Romans!

[@orestisermeidis5272]

I was SO looking forward for YOUR rant, about season 2. 😛😛😛

[@ImperiumRomanumYT]

Well said Metatron, such a shame that this series went the way it did. Just like you said, season 1 was ok, season 2 was a disaster. The fact that the historical advisors said the show goodbye is all you need to know...

[@davidconnellan6875]

This show went into the toilet in the second episode. The kissing scene was it for me. I'm done. 🤮

[@finnjohnson3544]

The kissing scene was the only part I enjoyed 😂

[@warrenbuffet5152]

Remember Germanic people invented wokeness and radical f3minism.

[@Rustynuckles1]

Ok well it was kinda strange but what elce do we have for t.v shows

[@davidconnellan6875]

@@warrenbuffet5152 did they??? I think I missed that lesson in History class

[@comment3711]

@@Rustynuckles1 Have you seen Britannia? It’s kooky and a little all over the shop but I really like it. Also has a great sound track and sense of humor. It’s a rare gem imo.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

Netflix made a bad show? I'm shocked.

[@lesparks126]

Great Review! And your producing skills keep getting better. You started out good in the beginning, but now, you should be working with Netflix! (help them). History has many great stories that can be made into shows without having to "correct" the narrative!

[@siggy2609]

Fun fact: adjusting for inflation, 2 Germans are worth 7 Italians in the modern day.

[@Baamthe25th]

Astérix and Obelix is pretty accurate all things considered/when you exclude the author poking fun at modern stereotypes.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

I hated his ridiculous take on middle east

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl What was that take?

[@kaltaron1284]

That's mostly the later books though isn't it? And didn't one of the duo die before them? I mean there was fun with more modern stuff like the "House that turns you mad" or whatever it's called but nothing too bad IMHO.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@Soapy-chan_old he stereotyped us as constantly fighting each other.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl I mean, you did... Like everyone did.

[@re1v3r]

Germanicus is such an awesome historic leader that it is such a lost opportunity to tell his true story. 😮‍💨😭

[@mtuktuk9627]

great vid, i feel Asterix and Obelix got a little bit too much colateral damage here xD

[@hugoalju]

The first season wasn't made by Netflix, they just bought the rights to broadcast it online, and I was really happy with it because the first season kept things at a very nice quality and script... Then NF announced they would have a second season as an NF production and this is what we got. I only watched the trailer and felt something sour coming up my mouth and said "NOPE".

[@anhdang1502]

Anyone noticed the downgrade in armor and weapons. I was expecting the Germanics will be armed with actual historical helmets with arms and armors, and not just all out naked with body paint and a spear. The Roman armor also downgrade in details which is pretty sad

[@defaultytuser]

Not to mention the damn coat of plates (circa 1300's) Arminio and many others wear during most of the first episodes.

[@Springbok295]

Tiberius' helmet looked too small for the actor's head.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Body paint that looked more Australian aborigine than anything. They could have made a reference to some basic differences - Langobards with presumably long beards and Suebians (which included the Langobards and Marcomanni) with their distinctive hair knots on the side of the head. Not a lot is known about these people but those are obvious styles which could have been used in the show.

[@anhdang1502]

To be honest I think Babarians is our only hope for an accurate Roman battle if they decides to do a large battle in the future seasons but if they fail once again then we have no hope

[@brittakriep2938]

Being german, from a region where in nearly every village graves from alemannic warriors have been found , 3th to 6th century. Even some centuries later most warrior graves contain only spearheads, seaxes and iron shieled center ( Schildbuckel). Spathas , similar to viking era swords had been owned by richer wariors, and helmets/ armor is nearly unexisting. So during first half of first century, very few warriors owned a sword, and armour was nearly unknown by germannic warriors. It seems , you confuse germanic warriors with celtic warriors, which had at least in Julius Caesars time, much better arms and armour.

[@michaeldrinkard678]

Excellent review of what is an awful show. I am so tired of modern "writers" trying to make stories "better". All they do is inject modern ideology and if you don't like it, you're automatically an "-ist" of some type. Thanks for watching and reviewing this dreck, so that others will know to avoid it. Keep up the good work!

[@KK-fi6ms]

This isn't even modem ideology. Apart from sub-saharan Carthagian nonsense, the rest is straight out of Nazi historybooks.

[@Fanakapan222]

Thumbs up for the use of 'Dreck'. I'm sure P T Barnum must have commented on the limitless market for dreck, and if he did'nt then he certainly should have. :)

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

Brilliant! This analysis is both funny and incisive.

[@hailheaven4372]

Germans = Uruk Hai I am so glad you said it Brother 👍🏻😏👍🏻

[@thepatriot6966]

Would have been nice to see Augustas. And him proclaiming Tiberius his heir after recalling him from his campaign in Germania Minor. And the showing the rise of Germanicus. Some of those battles would have been amazing on the screen. Especially the battle of the long bridges and The Angrivarian Wall. As we were denied seasons 3-4 of HBO's Rome. Sigh... maybe one day.

[@billdehappy1]

take it you do mean augustus ceasar former octavius and now princeps

[@aydenhernandez2572]

It was disappointing beyond thought, but what really gets me is how they massacred Germanicus, I was hoping he would have a Darth Vader like presence to him, any time the Germans finally catch a break he's there to destroy it all, however he is almost on the level of a toddler in his constant wining and childish threats, the Germans saw him almost as a force of nature, in this though? His is basically an annoying but passible obstacle.

[@AYVYN]

To get the title of Germanicus, Britannicus, Gothicus, etc. You basically have to genocide an entire group in war

[@revilo178]

@@AYVYN Not necessairly. As Tacitus himself wrote (Tacitus is the historian to whom we owe the descriptions of the campaings of Germanicus - and may have exaggerated his victories) the Germans were "celebrated triumphs over rather than defeated". Roem never managed to pacify Germany and submit it other than temporarily.

[@Ryef1]

Your best video so far. I hate it when I see a dude talking into the camera (recording device) for the whole video.

[@maxa.9135]

I love -sarcasm- that the timeline is just messed up by 150 years just to push a typical Netflix agenda.

[@Iruka1991]

if they want to build their own fantasy world they should do so and make the show like that. Nobody is going to complain thst the medieval fantasy series is kinda similar to a certain period of history. But by labeling the show as a historical series they force themselves to writte exactly what historians say or have people leaving the show and possible fandom.

[@KnightofAges]

Oh, they know EXACTLY what they're doing - trying to change people's perceptions and ideas of what that period in History was like.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

It’s a psychological operation to change people’s perspectives on history. As the guy above said. It’s intentional. They want to mess with peoples view of history. Makes it easier to control their minds in the present.

[@rodrigorafael.9645]

I think is time to history nerds get over ourselves, we are never gona get a perfectly acurrated séries by these big movie companies. They Just dont care.

[@somberflight]

@@rodrigorafael.9645 You're glowing.

[@justsomegamer6719]

@@somberflight He glows brighter than the Sun

[@oz4087]

The black carthaginian woman being salty about her parrents being killed in the sack of Carthage is like a WW2 Austrian soldier hating the French because Napoleon killed his Parrents.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

The tagline on the posters for season 2 here in Germany was "betrayal knows no allies". Which...yes, that's what makes it betrayal. That's the definition. Good job.

[@comment3711]

Thank you! I just finished it, so disappointed. The worst was when when characters would suddenly show up many miles away from where they were supposed to be and just in the nick of time for no reason. It was ridiculous!

[@TotusTuusMaria1984]

Seems to be a new trope with these garbage films. I didn’t watch it but I understand this happened a bunch in Rings of Power and as everyone knows in the last couple of seasons of Game of Thrones.

[@diegonatan6301]

@@TotusTuusMaria1984 thought the same, it is a new trope of bad fantasy adaptations, it became a trope mainly in the 2010s because of the ever decreasing quality of writers.

[@jarongreen5480]

The editing for this video was a lot of fun! The cartoon face for yourself was particularly funny. It's always a bad sign when historical advisors quite on a historical movie. Basically means you're getting star wars rather than history.

[@hazzmati]

It's obnoxiously childish a big step down from his previous style

[@jarongreen5480]

@@hazzmati are you joking or being serious?

[@hazzmati]

@@jarongreen5480 you can’t take opinions that differ from yours seriously?

[@jarongreen5480]

I see I didn't make myself clear. I had meant my previous statement as an honest question as it can sometimes be difficult to tell how something is meant in written form. Sometimes people say things sarcastically and I usually ask in these cases just for clarification so I don't misunderstand them.

[@hazzmati]

@@jarongreen5480 That's alright maybe I came across as too negative but I just think this cartoony style doesn't fit metatron and he doesn't need it as he's obviously very comfortable appearing infront of a camera. We already know what he looks like no need to put a silly cartoon face over his actual one anyway enough rambling out of me

[@wolfstettler3183]

Apart from the difficulties you mentioned, the maim problem with Barbarians II ist, that it is quite boring. While I more or less binge watched season 1, I am stuck somewhere in the middle of season 2 for quite some time now.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Great video! I saw season 1 and thought it was alright in certain ways. I knew season 2 would be horrible, and now I’m even more convinced I won’t be watching it

[@stepanpytlik4021]

This was better than the entire season itself.

[@anhdang1502]

The fact that they stormed a Roman camp again with ease 😂😂😂

[@repak05]

thanks Metatron, you just saved me a lot of time. I wanted to watch this season tonight, but I think my body will be grateful to you when I change my plans and will sleep instead 😂

[@Peoplearefood]

Good vid broski

[@ekvinox]

History itself has so much drama, yet modern writers think they should somehow "spice things up".

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

Meanwhile living lives wherein "I said _no_ cream in my coffee, dangit" is their biggest strife

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

i was so excited when i saw Season 2 came out on Netflix season 1 had good acting, good costumes, relatively historically accurate i thought season 2 would be a general tragedy where the Germans go down fighting, everything is lost, there might even be a roman side of the story where Germanicus is shown as a heroic figure and the audience is forced to choose a side but nope... it was all weird as fuck from beginning to end, i want my 6 hours back

[@investmentguru9920]

Lol I want to live in that universe.

[@Jawf94]

why would everything be lost? The Romans did not conquer Germania. After Germanicus, they never really went back.

[@alomaralsulaiman6501]

@@Jawf94 Because they didn't wanted to be there anymore. Although Girmanicus had the chance to conqueror Germania, the emperor Tiberius ordered him to leave the region.

[@randomdude2026]

@@Jawf94 Well for Arminius and Thusnelda everything would be lost. In reallity Arminius was killed because he wanted to become king of all Germanic tribes and Thusnelda was captured by the Romans and had to live in Rome as a prisoner for the rest of her life. The war would end in a stand still though. Rome conquered a bit of land east of the Rhine and erected the Limes Wall as a border, but the vast majority of Germania would remain free, because the Romans couldn't try to conquer it without big losses on their side, so that the Empire deemed it too risky for too little profit.

[@augustofioretti6938]

Oh, I was waiting for your reaction. I was watching the second season and thinking that some Sicilian will get some beef at it. The "outer crust" has a sheen of historical semblance, but the inner core is terrible. Look what they've done with mah boy Germanicus...

[@alexanderwaite9403]

It is a shame. The actual events leading up to the Varian Disaster and its aftermath make the Game of Thrones look like a Disney fairytale! The writers and producers of the show didn't need to change anything! Seems like they wanted to score brownie points with the audience who will never watch the show.

[@janczaplinski658]

I don't believe we've ever heard Metatron swear on video

[@luisborja9736]

literally when i saw the 2nd season came out i was curious as to how they were gonna portray arminius’ death and betrayal at the hands of his people. little did i know i should not have even worried since that is clearly not gonna happen anytime soon

[@g.r.bilyeu4226]

Great channel. I really enjoy your perspective.

[@stsk1061]

Gotta love how they are always casting black people as Carthaginians.

[@Lenny2012S]

When I closed my Netflix account, my only sorrow was that I would miss future Barbarians 2. I loved Barbarians 1. Thank you. Now I see that I would not miss anything important or interesting.

[@hartmutholzgraefe]

Having grown up in the are between Teutoburg Forrest and Wiehengebirge I'd like to add geographie to the list of WTFs Seeing those rather large ships "sailing" up a river curving through mountaineus terrain I was wondering were this was actually supposed to play, as the nearest such formations would be some 200+ kilometers to the south-west of here. As far as I remember the Romans used the Ruhr and Lippe to get here, but only using very shallow transport barges. And the re-interpretation of the Arminus story to "Hermann der Cherusker" was also not so much a Nazi thing after all but rather a late 19th century thing that came with the German nation building? Similar for or local town "hero" Widukind ...

[@Ronkyort0dox]

I once watched an episode of the German soap Sturm der Liebe when a character fell into a river in Bavaria and was brought by the currents to Italy. Pheraps the same happened here.

[@MarcGrafZahl]

Maybe season 3 will start with a flashback, but revealing all this was just dreamt of by Arminius, Thusnelda wakes him up and the real events of 10 ad evolve.

[@glassfruit7702]

You were the chosen one, Barbarians! you were suppose to show that history and tv series could work in harmony not join them!

[@Trajan3]

Couldn't continue after episode 2 or 3. Netflix couldn't resist ruining it

[@keenanwilson2335]

I finished the season and I knew you'd have something to say about it. Such a shame how it played out, because the show really looked like a relieving change from the usual bs we see on TV

[@2SSSR2]

For the note on the start of a video: If a media portraits certain period of history, does most of the things wrong and does not state that it is a comedy or parody - they deserve to be criticized until that show is done and dead. Shows like this are the reason people are learning the wrong history (I am looking at you Braveheart).

[@MechaShadowV2]

This really needs to be upvoted more, I see far too many posts saying "it's just a show" or "it only says inspired by".

[@WelNep]

This feels like coming back to history class after a 2 week absensce...

[@MisterKanisterXXX]

Very well made video Metatron!

[@MuzzoWolf]

Oh...this makes me so sad, the first season was decent enough, i actually finished saying "eh, too bad we will never see a season 2. The barbarians secured a small victory but would then be crushed". Then i see this. And as i said, it's a pity they didn't go for a season 2. Because this one is probably a whole new series at this point.

[@revilo178]

The barbarians wiped out three entire legions. Then the Romans genocided a German tribe and won a couple battles against Arminius, who had to retreat behind the Elbe. Arminius was then assassinated by his own people. I think this wuld have made for a great second season.

[@muffinman5741]

Well i'm not surprised at all. In current year one season being good is already a miracle.

[@enricopozzi5323]

Video should be named "I watched Barbarians II so you don't have to" . I was curious to see this show until I came here :( Comunque sei davvero in gamba, ultimamente ti sto seguendo poco e faccio MALISSIMO!!!

[@eamonmcdermott4032]

You really made me laugh with this!

[@MrLaedu]

I love the fun you obviously had when editing this! Great energy!!

[@Leto965]

Well I can accept Germanikus being immortal not aging deity

[@kaltaron1284]

Was he actually deified?

[@Leto965]

@@kaltaron1284 from what I found he wasn't

[@kamiloniszczuk9685]

Germanicus as an immortal warrior, fighting in the wars throughout history, always against Germans XD I'd watch the hell out of this

[@kaltaron1284]

@@kamiloniszczuk9685 His fighting retreat in the Ardennes was esp. impressive. Too bad he still had his Roman gear and the French didn't send him any reinforcements because he called them Gauls.

[@kamiloniszczuk9685]

@@kaltaron1284 he did a great job working with them at Jena though

[@blackoutnow]

This must have been the smallest forest in history. You couldn't wander a mile without stumbling across characters.

[@TheZapan99]

Metatron should review the French-published comic book by Italian artist Enrico Marini "The Eagles of Rome" (available in Italian under the title Le Aquile di Roma) which covers roughly the same period and is much more entertaining.

[@maricallo6143]

I wish Metatron should also review the film "Illyricvm" once it makes it to the Italian cinemas, which it should since it's a minority Italian co-production. Lots of barbarians there from across the Adriatic.

[@croatianwarmaster7872]

@@maricallo6143 Watched the premier in Arena in Pula. Tbh I really enjoyed the movie.

[@maricallo6143]

@@croatianwarmaster7872 hey, me too. The right place to have the premiere of a film about Romans - in a genuine Roman arena.

[@nursontest156]

The historian of the first season saied in a german Hema Podcast (Schwertgeflüster) that you don'r have invinite power over the production. You are allowed to say something, but that doesn't mean that it will be executed. This guy knew so much about history, it was just amazing to listen to him. But je also saied that he was allowed ro change some things, but not everything.